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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:22:00 -
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I want splash damage on my torps please.
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0 Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
I normally do not support RL comparisons with eve, but this one is definately a perfect comparison.
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:24:00 -
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raven should get a special ability to heavy nos like +1 scram point per nos activation on target because it needs all the mids for tanking and cant tackle anything.
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Inversa
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Inversa on 01/01/2006 18:28:15 On a Raven with 6 launcher are 2 hi-slots left, fit some med guns, a target painter into one med-slot.
Or use a web, then the frigs can't outrun your torp as easy as before
I say it again Trops aren't anti-frig weapons.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0
Here's the best thing that would describe how it is.
Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
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Regat Kozovv
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:28:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Inversa
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Inversa Why should Torps hit frigs
because they are bigger, and in eve Bigger > Better
Torps are anti BS/Capital weapons. Every ship/setup in Eve has a weakness. The weak point of a Torp-Raven is the Frigate wich can outrun Torps. If you want to go against frigs as well fitt some anti-frig weapons.
Finally, someone who understands balance and combined-arms theory. I agree, torpedos are not ment for, and should not be used for anti-frigate duties. They are tools out there for this kinda work. They're called assault launchers.
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Inversa
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Inversa Why should Torps hit frigs
because they are bigger, and in eve Bigger > Better
Torps are anti BS/Capital weapons. Every ship/setup in Eve has a weakness. The weak point of a Torp-Raven is the Frigate wich can outrun Torps. If you want to go against frigs as well fitt some anti-frig weapons.
Finally, someone who understands balance and combined-arms theory. I agree, torpedos are not ment for, and should not be used for anti-frigate duties. They are tools out there for this kinda work. They're called assault launchers.
Assault launchers should be able to fit torps anyways
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Regat Kozovv Finally, someone who understands balance and combined-arms theory. I agree, torpedos are not ment for, and should not be used for anti-frigate duties. They are tools out there for this kinda work. They're called assault launchers.
Dont think assault launchers are that good, Rocket ravens are better. I personally think the problem of the Raven is not about the long/short range thing. It is a missile-boat and more towards support role, which explains the static setup until you dock at the next station to refit. Unlike turrets, you get short and long range ammos.
Maybe the current bonuses to Raven should apply for all missiles rather than torps and cruise missile. That way, using smaller launchers would be alright with the Ravens. ----------------
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:35:00 -
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Quote: [18:33:09] Kayosoni > PRECISION CRUISE MISSILES 4tw [18:33:39] Kayosoni > I hit frigates for 10 less than full damage with precision cruise
CCP, this is wrong. This so so blatantly wrong that it should be obvious to anyone, but let me explain.
WHY DO PRECISION CRUISE DO 10 LESS DAMAGE THAN NORMAL VS FRIGS? This is obviously a nerf to the raven.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:35:00 -
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man i told u to buy gallente char
HatePeace LoveWar[ATUK] > they ebayed the bs for grain
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Inversa
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:36:00 -
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If you fly a Torp-Raven and want to hit Frigs, get friend with a Destroyer as escort.
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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Drunkeh
Quote: [18:33:09] Kayosoni > PRECISION CRUISE MISSILES 4tw [18:33:39] Kayosoni > I hit frigates for 10 less than full damage with precision cruise
CCP, this is wrong. This so so blatantly wrong that it should be obvious to anyone, but let me explain.
WHY DO PRECISION CRUISE DO 10 LESS DAMAGE THAN NORMAL VS FRIGS? This is obviously a nerf to the raven.
qft
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0
Originally by: Inversa
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Inversa Why should Torps hit frigs
because they are bigger, and in eve Bigger > Better
Torps are anti BS/Capital weapons. Every ship/setup in Eve has a weakness. The weak point of a Torp-Raven is the Frigate wich can outrun Torps. If you want to go against frigs as well fitt some anti-frig weapons.
Here's the best thing that would describe how it is.
Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Inversa If you fly a Torp-Raven and want to hit Frigs, get friend with a Destroyer as escort.
Chuck Norris doesent need friends?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0
Originally by: Inversa
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Inversa Why should Torps hit frigs
because they are bigger, and in eve Bigger > Better
Torps are anti BS/Capital weapons. Every ship/setup in Eve has a weakness. The weak point of a Torp-Raven is the Frigate wich can outrun Torps. If you want to go against frigs as well fitt some anti-frig weapons.
Here's the best thing that would describe how it is.
Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
THIS IS QUITE FRANKLY THE BEST FORUM REPLY EVER ------
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Regat Kozovv
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
I normally do not support RL comparisons with eve, but this one is definately a perfect comparison.
No, it's not. Little kids are inferior in every way. Frigates have speed. And you don't use large weapons with poor tracking to counter fast moving craft. Battlships do not use 16in guns and cruise missiles to counter aircraft (real life) and they don't in EVE either. Smal, fast tracking weapons are the order of the day.
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0
Here's the best thing that would describe how it is.
Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
Chuck Norris? Sure you meant Charles Bronson
While were balancing the Raven why not remove that 5% ROF bonus on the Typhoon for something more useful like 5% Hull HP bonus? ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |
0Virtu0
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Inversa If you fly a Torp-Raven and want to hit Frigs, get friend with a Destroyer as escort.
Chuck Norris doesent need friends?
Chuck Norris would snap his friends necks and then revive him using his powers and send them home, support is a weakness, Chuck Norris is not weak.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: 0Virtu0
Originally by: Inversa
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Inversa Why should Torps hit frigs
because they are bigger, and in eve Bigger > Better
Torps are anti BS/Capital weapons. Every ship/setup in Eve has a weakness. The weak point of a Torp-Raven is the Frigate wich can outrun Torps. If you want to go against frigs as well fitt some anti-frig weapons.
Here's the best thing that would describe how it is.
Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
THIS IS QUITE FRANKLY THE BEST FORUM REPLY EVER
Nerf Jim Raynor tbh
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:42:00 -
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i think Chuck Norris is faster than little kids too, so why can't the raven reach 10,000 m/s with mwd to be faster than those damn little frigs?
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Inversa
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Inversa If you fly a Torp-Raven and want to hit Frigs, get friend with a Destroyer as escort.
Chuck Norris doesent need friends?
Chuck Norris is just a school ground bully.
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
I normally do not support RL comparisons with eve, but this one is definately a perfect comparison.
No, it's not. Little kids are inferior in every way. Frigates have speed. And you don't use large weapons with poor tracking to counter fast moving craft. Battlships do not use 16in guns and cruise missiles to counter aircraft (real life) and they don't in EVE either. Smal, fast tracking weapons are the order of the day.
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Drunkeh on 01/01/2006 18:44:51 still laughing
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Inversa
Chuck Norris is just a school ground bully.
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
I normally do not support RL comparisons with eve, but this one is definately a perfect comparison.
No, it's not. Little kids are inferior in every way. Frigates have speed. And you don't use large weapons with poor tracking to counter fast moving craft. Battlships do not use 16in guns and cruise missiles to counter aircraft (real life) and they don't in EVE either. Smal, fast tracking weapons are the order of the day.
So raven needs 16 additional highslots to fit anti-frig turrets and boni to them!
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:47:00 -
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The Raven will never be on par with the Typhoon until it has a Chuck Norris Launcher which fires Chuck Norris which in return fires Nunchucks at children, the elderly, the disabled, and frigates, destroying them in one fell stroke. ------
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Inversa
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
I normally do not support RL comparisons with eve, but this one is definately a perfect comparison.
No, it's not. Little kids are inferior in every way. Frigates have speed. And you don't use large weapons with poor tracking to counter fast moving craft. Battlships do not use 16in guns and cruise missiles to counter aircraft (real life) and they don't in EVE either. Smal, fast tracking weapons are the order of the day.
So raven needs 16 additional highslots to fit anti-frig turrets and boni to them!
And what kind of keyboard layout do you want to use?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
I normally do not support RL comparisons with eve, but this one is definately a perfect comparison.
No, it's not. Little kids are inferior in every way. Frigates have speed. And you don't use large weapons with poor tracking to counter fast moving craft. Battlships do not use 16in guns and cruise missiles to counter aircraft (real life) and they don't in EVE either. Smal, fast tracking weapons are the order of the day.
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Inversa
Originally by: Keta Min
Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Chuck Norris doesnt need different sized arms to beat up little kids, why should the Raven need different weapons to beat up frigs!?
I normally do not support RL comparisons with eve, but this one is definately a perfect comparison.
No, it's not. Little kids are inferior in every way. Frigates have speed. And you don't use large weapons with poor tracking to counter fast moving craft. Battlships do not use 16in guns and cruise missiles to counter aircraft (real life) and they don't in EVE either. Smal, fast tracking weapons are the order of the day.
So raven needs 16 additional highslots to fit anti-frig turrets and boni to them!
And what kind of keyboard layout do you want to use?
CCP should just make an <activate all> shortcut.
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Inversa
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Drunkeh Chuck Norris knows 172 ways to kill a man using only his big toe, yet a raven cannot even kill a frig using torps.
Use the turret-slots for anti-frig duty, or fit some assault or heavy launchers. Why is that so hard to do?
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