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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
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Posted - 2013.09.07 15:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Empire can control their own stations based on that same argument. And Empire could use a security rating for that very reason. They could even limit the amount of access to services based off of those same security ratings.
It's not an impossible mechanic, would just take some fine tuning. It's not about being impossible GÇö it's about it being bad design. NPCs aren't there to keep restrict player movement. The only ones who are given the role of keeping players out are other players.
In player owned sov maybe. Since by definition players control their areas. As this is npc EMPIRE space, where security ratings DO matter... why would it be a bad design to make security standings matter in the one area they do matter?
It isn't about npc's restricting player movements... you are 100% correct. It's about players doing it to theirselves through their own consequences and actions. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Rose Jasmone
100 Grilo Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:01:00 -
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When I said you cannot be an industrialist only and fight back, I am just stating the obvious for an obvious reason, I am not stating that this should change or that it is a problem.
When I said everything NPCs do influences in a way the market, it is not ONLY by allowing the direct influence in the market but also when it gives people a choice. You may not need or use a house your government offers to those who cant afford one of their own, and that house may be just a place to sleep and use the bathroom, but still a way some governments influence real state market in the sense that those kinds of apartments will have their value changed for that. The same goes to any kind of thing that is exogenous to the entity being said to be the driven force. CCP already stated long ago when Aur was being implemented that plex prices wouldnt be out of measures of control. If they CAN control, that means it is not player driven, even if they dont. That is not a problem aswell. The less player driven the market is, the less likely you are to have the game hijacked by a group of players that invests a lot, going against the small time players.
And people focus too much on personal problems, which is the main problem in EVe, as it is in real life aswell. EVE right now is perfect from my point of view: - Unbalanced PvP ? I just buy the the set the unbalance privilege, and if it changes, I buy another. I just pvp when bored anyways. Why should I care to manifest that I would like to change that ? Yes, because we should only manifest what bother oneself, not what we see wrong. - Ganking ? Rising prices. I lost 2 orcas in a gankage, I parked one in lowsec because I need to pass by with a freighter loaded with 3 orca worth merchandise, and gankers are so stupid that they always go for the bait. The other one I did the same in another place, still not a loss. Fight the enemy where they arent. LoL. Why should I want ganking to end ? It is good business and it is conducted by stupid people. - Wardec ? Just about now someone I know linked to someone posting here wardec this corp, which wont lose a single asset or minute mining or trading because of said wardec. Why should I fight for a better war system ? Why should I ask for a better way to conduct wars beside wardec system which is a flawed unrealistic system ?
In resume, if we only should fight for what bothers us, most of us would never have to ask anything to CCP for changing in EVE, because there is no single flaw in the gameplay that affects the majority of the players, just bugs in the game software or server. |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
254
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:35:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:us raw newbies ignored his advice and went hunting for them in frigates. We died, a lot Out of curiosity, did you not realize you were ******* your corp or did you not care? Not judging, just curious. Curious, how exactly was he ******** his corp? (w/e those asteriks mean) Was he bankrupting his corp's SRP program with those frig losses? Was he encouraging the ebil grieferz to keep paying the wardec costs so they could keep on shooting the same 3 noobs in frigs (and then give them ISK and advice)? Did he ruin the corp's highly important K/D ratio? Please edumacate us on what his horrid folly was....
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
421
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:45:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:S Byerley wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:us raw newbies ignored his advice and went hunting for them in frigates. We died, a lot Out of curiosity, did you not realize you were ******* your corp or did you not care? Not judging, just curious. Curious, how exactly was he ******** his corp? (w/e those asteriks mean) Was he bankrupting his corp's SRP program with those frig losses? Was he encouraging the ebil grieferz to keep paying the wardec costs so they could keep on shooting the same 3 noobs in frigs (and then give them ISK and advice)? Did he ruin the corp's highly important K/D ratio? Please edumacate us on what his horrid folly was....
Obviously, it was "having fun" during a declared "no fun time". Other people might get the idea that fighting back during a wardec is a blast, see. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:48:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:Was he encouraging the ebil grieferz to keep paying the wardec costs so they could keep on shooting the same 3 noobs in frigs (and then give them ISK and advice)?
Not 'ebil', just rational. When you're wardeccing with the intent of blowing stuff up, chances are you're going to revisit decs that allowed you to blow stuff up. Similarly, giving someone ISK and advice encourages them to keep showing up so you have something to shoot at. If your corporation isn't interested in PVP, it's a pretty good wang slap in the face to encourage PVP against them. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16348
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:57:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:In player owned sov maybe. No, in pretty much the whole game.
NPCs are only really there to impart costs and provide (some) rewards. It is never their role to restrict or remove player choices or actions GÇö that's reserved for other players.
Quote:Since by definition players control their areas. As this is npc EMPIRE space, where security ratings DO matter... why would it be a bad design to make security standings matter in the one area they do matter? Because it's not their job to circumscribe player choices. What you're describing is more lore than game design, and security ratings are there specifically to allow players to do what you want NPCs to do: chase other players out.
Hell, I could even throw in that trite old sandbox description again: it doesn't mean that you can do what you want GÇö it means everyone can do what they want, including things you do not want them to do (to you). NPCs are not part of that. It's all about what players can do, preferably to each other. If pirates want to roam highsec, they should-ámust be able to, but only as long as other players don't do something the pirates don't want them to do, i.e. blow them up and keep them out.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4327
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:41:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Vladimir Norkoff wrote:S Byerley wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:us raw newbies ignored his advice and went hunting for them in frigates. We died, a lot Out of curiosity, did you not realize you were ******* your corp or did you not care? Not judging, just curious. Curious, how exactly was he ******** his corp? (w/e those asteriks mean) Was he bankrupting his corp's SRP program with those frig losses? Was he encouraging the ebil grieferz to keep paying the wardec costs so they could keep on shooting the same 3 noobs in frigs (and then give them ISK and advice)? Did he ruin the corp's highly important K/D ratio? Please edumacate us on what his horrid folly was.... Obviously, it was "having fun" during a declared "no fun time". Other people might get the idea that fighting back during a wardec is a blast, see. So you think, clearly his corp was using the CFC no fun approach to fighting a sov war There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
422
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:49:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Vladimir Norkoff wrote:Was he encouraging the ebil grieferz to keep paying the wardec costs so they could keep on shooting the same 3 noobs in frigs (and then give them ISK and advice)? Not 'ebil', just rational. When you're wardeccing with the intent of blowing stuff up, chances are you're going to revisit decs that allowed you to blow stuff up. Similarly, giving someone ISK and advice encourages them to keep showing up so you have something to shoot at. If your corporation isn't interested in PVP, it's a pretty good wang slap in the face to encourage PVP against them.
Hey, I was RIGHT! It's "having fun" during a declared "no fun time". We can't let the proles in our "industrial focused no PVP" corp get the idea that shooting at each other is an interesting part of EVE. They might depart, then who'll AFK mine for us?! Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 04:44:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Hey, I was RIGHT! It's "having fun" during a declared "no fun time". We can't let the proles in our "industrial focused no PVP" corp get the idea that shooting at each other is an interesting part of EVE. They might depart, then who'll AFK mine for us?!
You don't think it's a little self-righteous to join an indy/pve/whatever corp and try to convert everyone? Chances are if someone is pursuing a slow-paced meta-focused profession in an already slow-paced meta-focused game, they aren't particularly interested in your childish high-sec PVP. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
422
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Posted - 2013.09.08 05:50:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Hey, I was RIGHT! It's "having fun" during a declared "no fun time". We can't let the proles in our "industrial focused no PVP" corp get the idea that shooting at each other is an interesting part of EVE. They might depart, then who'll AFK mine for us?! You don't think it's a little self-righteous to join an indy/pve/whatever corp and try to convert everyone? Chances are if someone is pursuing a slow-paced meta-focused profession in an already slow-paced meta-focused game, they aren't particularly interested in your childish high-sec PVP.
Not in the least! As some of the more vocal PVE only folks like to trumpet, "It's my sub when you start paying for it then you can tell me what to do".
Your premise is flawed anyway. Anyone who makes sport of deccing "industry" corps knows about the "erryone stay docked they'll just go away" tactic. Just encourages us to keep the dec going as long as possible.
You get a lot more street cred coming out and fighting, even if you don't succeed. Some of us have even been known to drop a dec when asked, if said corp cowboys up and heads out to fight. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:06:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Your premise is flawed anyway. Anyone who makes sport of deccing "industry" corps knows about the "erryone stay docked they'll just go away" tactic. Just encourages us to keep the dec going as long as possible.
So you waste more time and money to feel like you haven't lost? Whatever gets your rocks off I guess, but you're underestimating the patience and diversification of seasoned indys.
Quote:You get a lot more street cred coming out and fighting, even if you don't succeed. Some of us have even been known to drop a dec when asked, if said corp cowboys up and heads out to fight.
Sounds legit. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
803
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:26:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Your premise is flawed anyway. Anyone who makes sport of deccing "industry" corps knows about the "erryone stay docked they'll just go away" tactic. Just encourages us to keep the dec going as long as possible. So you waste more time and money to feel like you haven't lost? Whatever gets your rocks off I guess, but you're underestimating the patience and diversification of seasoned indys.
Are you, perhaps, completely incapable of understanding the motivation behind it? Firstly, if the target doesn't fight, there's not much time lost (unless you consider clicking locator agents to be significant time), and secondly for the kind of person who does it for fun it's pretty cheap.
Oh...
And it's hard to underestimate "indy corps". I once randomly wardecced a corp I saw putting up recruitment ad cans(words cannot describe how much I hate that), and recieved an evemail the next morning from not one, but two people telling me that "people like me" are the reason they were quitting eve.
So, like I said, it's quite the task to actually underestimate them. Hard to dig deeper than rock bottom. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:52:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Are you, perhaps, completely incapable of understanding the motivation behind it? Firstly, if the target doesn't fight, there's not much time lost (unless you consider clicking locator agents to be significant time), and secondly for the kind of person who does it for fun it's pretty cheap.
Are you claiming corps that continuously fight back and lose don't get decced again? That certainly flies in the face of the motivations as I understand them.
Quote:And it's hard to underestimate "indy corps". I once randomly wardecced a corp I saw putting up recruitment ad cans(words cannot describe how much I hate that), and recieved an evemail the next morning from not one, but two people telling me that "people like me" are the reason they were quitting eve.
I did say seasoned. Comparing two rage-quitters to seasoned indys is like me comparing you to.... someone who's good at PVP. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
803
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:58:00 -
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Quote:Are you claiming corps that continuously fight back and lose don't get decced again? That certainly flies in the face of the motivations as I understand them.
No, I am saying that Lady Areola Fappington's statement that she will toss them a "gf" in local and leave them alone (with some respect for their backbone) is not something that you can refute as you tried to.
Quote:I did say seasoned.
Whether you put salt, pepper, or Mrs. Dash on that meat, it's still a chicken. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:04:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:No, I am saying that Lady Areola Fappington's statement that she will toss them a "gf" in local and leave them alone (with some respect for their backbone) is not something that you can refute as you tried to.
PVP doubling? Sounds legit.
Quote:Whether you put salt, pepper, or Mrs. Dash on that meat, it's still a chicken.
Is it aggravating when your unseasoned steak tastes like **** in comparison? |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
422
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:25:00 -
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Here, S Byerley, I'll give you the exact thought processes behind each of these scenarios. I can't make it any more clear.
Indy corp docks up, clams up: Hah, this is going to be easy. All it took was one wardec to stop them in their tracks. I got enough ISK in the fund to keep this going for months, I wonder when one of them will grow a pair and peek out. Hey other guys in my corp, all you gotta do is park a cloaky in system here to freeze the wardecced corp up. Someone get a spy in so we can laugh at all the raging in corpchat.
Indy corp grows a pair, and comes out to fight. Hmm, looks like these guys wanna play. Caught me with my pants down, I was in the middle of smack talking, lost my cruiser. Hey other guys in my corp come over to this system these guys are gonna throw down. Yo, Bob X Target, next time you fit that rifter, try a brawler fit with ACs. (Week later) Hey you target guys are fun. You want to fight another week, or get back to your indy thing?
I respect the indy guys who're willing to fight back. I laugh at the tears generated by the indy guys who hide in-station and rage about how unfair it is. Either way, I'm getting my kicks out of the deal.
And, just to toss in here, which of these sounds more fun? "Hey guys we've been wardecced. Everyone dock up, and stay docked. Don't interact with the deccers. Maybe if we're really quiet they'll go away." vs. "Hey guys we're wardecced. Everyone jump in whatever you can afford to lose. We're bringing the fight to THEM, and be-damned with the losses!" Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:28:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Hey you target guys are fun. You want to fight another week, or get back to your indy thing?
Sounds legit.
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:I laugh at the tears generated by the indy guys who hide in-station and rage about how unfair it is.
And when they don't cry or rage? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
803
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:37:00 -
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Quote:And when they don't cry or rage?
You keep it going until they do, or until they disband.
Is this really so hard? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:40:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:And when they don't cry or rage? You keep it going until they do, or until they disband. Is this really so hard?
When compared to doing nothing? Certainly.
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
422
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:44:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Hey you target guys are fun. You want to fight another week, or get back to your indy thing? Sounds legit. Lady Areola Fappington wrote:I laugh at the tears generated by the indy guys who hide in-station and rage about how unfair it is. And when they don't cry or rage?
They cry and rage. They always do. I've been at this in one form or another for quite a few years, and it never fails.
Even if they don't say a word, you know you're getting under their skin, disrupting operations, and causing a bother. The neverending threads on how horrible and bad wardecs and ganking is proof enough of that.
I'll let you in on a small secret. I run a moderately successful mining and industry corp on my alt account. We live in high. We've been decced by all the usual suspects....in fact, I think Mr. Kane may have turned his attention to us once in the past. My standing SOP for warops has been "See a WT, go get in a combat ship, and hunt them. Don't care about loss."
My corpmates adore it. Our killboards went past infrared a long time ago. The running gag in corp chat is "WT in local, gonna go lose me a ship!" Yet, somehow, we've survived...not only that, grown. We've had a few "Griefer corps" give us props for shooting back. Sure as hell beats "We're decced, everyone dock up, no fun allowed."
No I'm not going to tell you who my indy corp is. You can try to find us if you like though. We like shooting spaceships in the spaceship shooting game. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
803
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:44:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:And when they don't cry or rage? You keep it going until they do, or until they disband. Is this really so hard? When compared to doing nothing? Certainly.
It's not even hard. I've done far more just for the offchance of tears. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:50:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:They cry and rage. They always do. I've been at this in one form or another for quite a few years, and it never fails.
Even if they don't say a word, you know you're getting under their skin, disrupting operations, and causing a bother.
They always rage because even when they don't rage they're raging?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
803
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:52:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:They cry and rage. They always do. I've been at this in one form or another for quite a few years, and it never fails.
Even if they don't say a word, you know you're getting under their skin, disrupting operations, and causing a bother. They always rage because even when they don't rage they're raging?
Close.
Because even if they don't rage, they're not playing. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:S Byerley wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:They cry and rage. They always do. I've been at this in one form or another for quite a few years, and it never fails.
Even if they don't say a word, you know you're getting under their skin, disrupting operations, and causing a bother. They always rage because even when they don't rage they're raging? Close. Because even if they don't rage, they're not playing.
Keep thinking that.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
803
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:01:00 -
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S Byerley wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:S Byerley wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:They cry and rage. They always do. I've been at this in one form or another for quite a few years, and it never fails.
Even if they don't say a word, you know you're getting under their skin, disrupting operations, and causing a bother. They always rage because even when they don't rage they're raging? Close. Because even if they don't rage, they're not playing. Keep thinking that.
I shall, given the terms of what we were discussing:
I wardec someone.
They decide to not login/undock/whatever in hopes that I will go away.
Ergo, they aren't playing. Which, presumably, since they are paying CCP for it, they want to do. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Gordin Brott
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.08 10:58:00 -
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A partial solution to the highsec ganking issue would be to make characters on trial accounts unable to initiate aggression against other player characters in highsec. "Concord regrets to inform you that this action is prohibited under the terms of your probationary pilot license"
As things currently stand, there is nothing stopping me from having a string of 5-6 trial accounts all simultaneously training the basic skills needed to fly a suicide gank Catalyst. Once that character's sec status drops below a level where they can function, discard him and peel the next one off the stack. There isn't even any need to biomass them, as you simply let the trial run out and abandon it. These accounts cost me nothing beyond the time needed to set them up, and as long as I don't do anything stupid such as contracting hulls or skillbooks to them, are completely untraceable to me.
Of course, if you have subbed an account to do this or are taking time out from training your main, then as far as I'm concerned you have the right to do whatever is allowed by the EULA, no matter how morally dubious. You are paying (or getting someone else to pay) for game time with real-world currency, and should be rewarded accordingly. Trial accounts are not paid for, and it seems reasonable to me that they should be limited in such a way as they can no longer be used as disposable anonymous suicide alts.
With regard to this being too restrictive to potential new players, this prohibition should only apply to people initiating aggression, so shooting somebody who is already flashy or a wartarget would be allowed. Also, there would be nothing stopping them from joining FW and/or shooting up lowsec. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
422
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Posted - 2013.09.08 11:22:00 -
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Gordin Brott wrote:A partial solution to the highsec ganking issue would be to make characters on trial accounts unable to initiate aggression against other player characters in highsec. "Concord regrets to inform you that this action is prohibited under the terms of your probationary pilot license"
As things currently stand, there is nothing stopping me from having a string of 5-6 trial accounts all simultaneously training the basic skills needed to fly a suicide gank Catalyst. Once that character's sec status drops below a level where they can function, discard him and peel the next one off the stack. There isn't even any need to biomass them, as you simply let the trial run out and abandon it. These accounts cost me nothing beyond the time needed to set them up, and as long as I don't do anything stupid such as contracting hulls or skillbooks to them, are completely untraceable to me.
Of course, if you have subbed an account to do this or are taking time out from training your main, then as far as I'm concerned you have the right to do whatever is allowed by the EULA, no matter how morally dubious. You are paying (or getting someone else to pay) for game time with real-world currency, and should be rewarded accordingly. Trial accounts are not paid for, and it seems reasonable to me that they should be limited in such a way as they can no longer be used as disposable anonymous suicide alts.
With regard to this being too restrictive to potential new players, this prohibition should only apply to people initiating aggression, so shooting somebody who is already flashy or a wartarget would be allowed. Also, there would be nothing stopping them from joining FW and/or shooting up lowsec.
Good thinking on that, but just from my own experience, there's not many gankers who run serial trials like that. It pretty much restricts you to only group ganking mining barges. You just can't get in enough SP to get really proficient.
Part of the "ganking challenge" is getting as efficient and quick as you can at taking down your targets. You end up needing targeting skills, nav skills, rigging, cybernetics for those who use implants and of course, gunnery. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Luna Wolf Industries Dark Tide Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.09.09 16:48:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Renault T'Bonin wrote:Yup, I'm posting anonymously. Make of that what you will.
I own multiple characters, and I'm a fairly rich industrialist in the game. I've headed an alliance, held sov, know how to fight, and date back to 2004. So let me get this straight. You post on an alt, ***** about people ganking and boo hoo not enough consequences, then bother to post (on an alt) all the "accomplishments" which boil down to: 1. I have more alts. (uhuh) 2. I have isk. (so does everyone else) 3. Ive been in charge of people! (This makes you relevant how?) 4. Ive held sov! (Again the whole I'm a null sec sock puppet I hold sov = I'm gud!) 5. I know how to fight. Really? Are you sure? Did you swap mining lasers for maximum dps? IF you understood game mechanics and truly knew how to fight, you'd be out seeking revenge instead of making a ***** fest here bawwing about the evil wittle gankers! 6. Age means NOTHING if all you do is sit and mine rocks all day. Stop thinking playing since such and such a date makes you a competent player. I hope I kill you. Burn your pod. Loot the wreck, and put your corpse on contract while placing a bounty on you just for lulz. Dont like that? What are you going to do? Oh that's right. Nothing. Which is why every last one of you lazy spoiled carebears need to burn just like all of high sec.
I dunno why I like this post so much - I'm a high-sec industrial player :D - but I'll be damned... maybe I'm repressing my inner pirate?
Probably not but ... slowclaps for you |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13530
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:01:00 -
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I dunno why I like this post so much - I'm a high-sec industrial player :D - but I'll be damned... maybe I'm repressing my inner pirate? Probably not but ... slowclaps for you You can be a highsec industrialist and still approve of pirates, they're good for business
I know for a fact that Lady Areola Fappington ganks miners while doing a "Scrooge McDuck" with her indy alts, there's quite a few others that do the same.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
849
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:23:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:I dunno why I like this post so much - I'm a high-sec industrial player :D - but I'll be damned... maybe I'm repressing my inner pirate? Probably not but ... slowclaps for you You can be a highsec industrialist and still approve of pirates, they're good for business I know for a fact that Lady Areola Fappington ganks miners while doing a "Scrooge McDuck" with her indy alts, there's quite a few others that do the same.
You can be both, its good for your own business. Eve is Real |
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