when is the last time you've seen a Venture run by a week-old character even know how to put up an effective fight? These are the players who are being persuaded to dump EvE by the gankers.

But when the inevitable happens... we can't fight back. The targets are either NPC corps, stealthy alt corps, or full out alliance connected corporations. Even in corps of hundreds of people... we cannot retaliate. The perpetrators come to empire space specifically to hassle miners, then leave

There are some people (myself included) who like to solo. EvE is definately NOT a game for the solo player.

Yes, there are consequences to soloing, but it should not be impossible and EvE is damn near impossible to solo.

Sorry, but I prefer to NOT base the survival of my character on whether another player thinks it's worth covering my character.

So, I mine in high sec. It is the ONLY place in EvE online a new player (which I am) can learn how to play the game. These gankers who prey on new players (and very interestingly avoid new players flying combat vessels... the cowards) who convince those new players the game is not worth their hard-earned money.

Sorry, but you do NOT convince people to play a game by allowing those who are experianced in the game to gank those trying to learn how to play the game. You attract new players by enabling them to learn the game BEFORE they face those experianced players.

Low-sec and null-sec players who prey on new players because the new players have not yet learned how to defend themselves are forcing those players to decide NOT to continue.

i don't get angry at the gankers, i just convince myself into the delusion that i'm better than them in some undefined way

Oh it's not undefined at all. I'm better than them for the same reason that I'm better than criminals in RL.

Oh it's not undefined at all. I'm better than them for the same reason that I'm better than criminals in RL.

You aren't allowed to gank in rookie systems. And how many people are going to be convinced to keep playing if their only gameplay experience is staring at rocks all day?

So, I mine in high sec. It is the ONLY place in EvE online a new player (which I am) can learn how to play the game. These gankers who prey on new players (and very interestingly avoid new players flying combat vessels... the cowards) who convince those new players the game is not worth their hard-earned money.

You're not learning anything about how to play EVE by mining in high sec. I'm quite certain you mastered the activity of mining by the time you were done with the requisite tutorial mission, and therefore need no more study in the matter.

And you'd be quite wrong. There is actually quite a bit more to mining, at least doing it profitably and well. I'm not even a miner and I know that. And I'll agree it's quite possibly the single most boring activity in the entire game. But unfortunately it is necessary. Somebody has gotta pull the ore, so the ships can be built, and then they can be blown up. Just the way the game works.

You seem to be missing the point the OP was making.

It is simple. NOOBs still learning the game and not yet knowledgable as to their options are being jumped and ganked.

Actually, I'm not wrong at all. Mining consists of exactly nothing more than targeting an asteroid and activating your lasers. The game does the rest. Figuring out the market, which ore is profitable and which is not, is an entirely different activity that transcends mining, and can be applied to a vast multitude of economic activity in EVE.

PVP consists of nothing more than targeting a hostile and pressing F1.
What's to learn?

If you are going to dismiss it all as 'not part of mining' the same is true of PVP so he also already knows how to PVP.
I.E. Don't dismiss things you don't do as insignificant or worthless. The same works both ways.

If that's all PvP is to you, you're doing it wrong or in a blob. 90% of work in PvP is done before you hit F1, picking your targets, knowing the capabilities of your ship and fit, knowing the potential capabilities and fits of your opponents ships are all very important parts of PvP.

If that's all PvP is to you, you're doing it wrong or in a blob. 90% of work in PvP is done before you hit F1, picking your targets, knowing the capabilities of your ship and fit, knowing the potential capabilities and fits of your opponents ships are all very important parts of PvP.

If that's all PvP is to you, you're doing it wrong or in a blob. 90% of work in PvP is done before you hit F1, picking your targets, knowing the capabilities of your ship and fit, knowing the potential capabilities and fits of your opponents ships are all very important parts of PvP.

Last I checked we get Concorded and I am a free target for everyone everywhere.

Confirmed, people who blow up spaceships in a blowing up spaceships game are exactly like criminals RL.

BRB guys gotta go hold up a bank so I can buy PLEX.

You haven't even met all the criminals, how can you know them?

It sounds like you're judging a person based on possibly one act they commited in their lives! This doesn't reflect well on you.