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Mr Omniblivion GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 7	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:35:00 - [1] - Quote Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere [PBLRD] CFC Rental Program The CFC is now offering a rental program via the alliance Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere. We are renting out a plethora of systems in Vale of the Silent and will be soon offering several other region(s) within CFC space. First Things First System rental scams are explicitly forbidden in the CFC. If someone is attempting a scam to rent a system within CFC space (usually by requesting a down payment sent directly to them), please inform any CFC director. This rule is explicit to renting systems and no other forms of recruitment/sale/etc. Renting is Mutually Beneficial As demonstrated by other 0.0 coalitions, renting is a valuable proposition for both parties. The renters benefit from 0.0 ISK making opportunities, and the hosting coalitions get reliable, consistent rent income for the space that they own and protect. Why the CFC? Being one of the strongest coalitions in the game, the CFC is able to effectively control, protect and acquire space for its members and renters. With the CFC, there is significantly reduced risk of losing your space, and renters have security in knowing that your space will be protected from wide scale invasion. There are currently 10 satisfied corporations renting from the CFC thus far- feel free to reach out to any of them to ask about their experience. What We Offer Guaranteed Sov for renters to utilize (owned by PBLRD) A variety of systems including systems with Ice, high True Sec, and PBLRD Stations Low-Cost opportunities for blooming corporations or individuals (these may not include stations) PBLRD Jump Bridge Systems 0% Tax Refineries Set up your own POCOS (at 0%!) Easy access to empire via PBLRD transit systems System/Station Upgrades- you bring it, we install it for you! Access to open moons Belt/Anomaly exclusivity in your system Access to PBLRD region-wide intel channels Opportunities to fleet up with like-minded renter corporations for large scale ops and gate camps Rental Fees Truesec +1,000,000,000 Per 0.1 Point of Truesec Station +1,000,000,000 for a Station Ice +1,000,000,000 per Ice Belt Extra Belts +1,000,000,000 Flat charge for systems with more than 15 asteroid belts. Systems with 15 or less asteroid belts incur no additional charge. Dead End +500,000,000 If the system is a dead end Rules in PBLRD Space These are a list of key rules- for a full list, check out the Official Rental Rules. You can tower POS on any unclaimed moon in your system(s). R16-R64 moons are exclusive to the CFC. Cyno Jammers/CSAA are not allowed. Any other POS modules are allowed. No access to CFC or other PBLRD space, except for designated pipe systems. Rental corporations are responsible for AWOXers within their corporation CFC will not protect your space from roaming gangs or campers. We will, however, fully protect the PBLRD Sov. You are able to briefly travel to CFC/PBLRD systems to follow escalations- however, you will be shot on site if you are in a non-escalation ship (or if you are loitering in a system without doing an escalation). Rent is charged on a prorated basis for the month you join, and is always due on the first day of the month for each subsequent month. Available Systems Please visit this link for a list of available systems and their respective price. Steps to Apply: Contact Mr Omniblivion, Clewara or Dyllyn with questions or inquiries. DO NOT send any ISK or down payment to these representatives. Once you are satisfied, we will assist you with connecting with the CFC Finance Team to formalize a contract. When the CFC Finance team has approved your request, they will direct you to submit your rental fees to the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere Exec corporation. Once paid, your corporation will be accepted into PBLRD and you can then immediately move to your new 0.0 system. Please feel free to contact me in game with questions or concerns.
Dar Saleem Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:28:00 - [2] - Quote Yes we of course know that goons that pinnacle of honesty and trustworthyness. OK I tried I cant really say that with a straight face. Lets face the facts, goons are the biggest and best know scammers in eve. They wont think twice about scamming you or stabbing you in the back. Let me remind you of the famous goon saying "Not here to ruin the game, just here to ruin your game."
Clewara Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:15:00 - [3] - Quote Dar Saleem wrote: Yes we of course know that goons that pinnacle of honesty and trustworthyness. This isn't (only) a goon operation. We're renting out space that's been given up by multiple alliances within the CFC, and all alliances within the CFC will be reaping the benefits of the renters we attract. Not all alliances within the CFC are alike, and yet, we're all on board with this. There's plenty of space to spare up here, and even the least nullsec system has better PI, ratting, ice, and mineral benefits than any low or high security system. As a renter with us, you'll be buying exclusive access to that wealth for you and your corporation. Consider, for a moment, how much money you could be making in an ice-mining Mackinaw right now, slicing through Pristine White Glaze for nitrogen isotopes by the freighterload. Or you could take an Ishtar with sentry drones out for a spin and plow through a Guristas shooting gallery, including the right to run escalations for component and ship BPC's. One of the reasons I was invited to participate in finding potential renters for this program is because I'm not a goon, and it was hoped having some of the allies on the team would help lend credence to the enterprise. However--you don't have to take my word for it, or Mr Omniblivion's--PBLRD now has several member corps, including corporations with history as RAZOR and PL renters. Anyone from any of them is welcome to post in this thread about their experience with us, especially during this delicate initial period of operations.
Necron314 ZERO Heavy Industries co 6	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:47:00 - [4] - Quote I'm currently waiting chribba to secure our first month renting fee.
Murdock Willows Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.08.31 06:16:00 - [5] - Quote Don't rent from these guys, they already scammed me, Completely non trustworthy as an organization. Rent from them and you will be screwed in the long run
Preezy Red Eye Flyers 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 06:20:00 - [6] - Quote These guys are a bunch of liars, you really want to give isk to them? Other rental opportunities exists that wont screw you over. Goons will double cross you if necessary, don't trust them.
Danny Austrene Knights of the Burning Lobster 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 06:22:00 - [7] - Quote Only idiots trust the cfc
Akrasjel Lanate Naquatech Conglomerate 1193	Posted - 2013.08.31 07:06:00 - [8] - Quote Oh... more scams
Zapranothe Tax Evasion Shield 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 07:33:00 - [9] - Quote I would to add my personal contribution to CFCs shiny new rental enterprise that you can read at the link below. Btw, any chance I could have the 6 billion ISK you bastards scammed from my main applied to my 1st three months of rent? http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1k9m2g/finally_the_common_capsuleer_has_the_power_to/
nahjustwarpin Ministry of War Amarr Empire 86	Posted - 2013.08.31 07:45:00 - [10] - Quote Zapranothe wrote: I would to add my personal contribution to CFCs shiny new rental enterprise that you can read at the link below. Btw, any chance I could have the 6 billion ISK you bastards scammed from my main applied to my 1st three months of rent? http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1k9m2g/finally_the_common_capsuleer_has_the_power_to/ and when you'll give me back that 20 billion isk that you only wanted to borrow for an hour?

Mr Omniblivion GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8	Posted - 2013.08.31 07:58:00 - [11] - Quote Zapranothe wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1k9m2g/finally_the_common_capsuleer_has_the_power_to/ Zapranothe- your article actually reinforces the purpose of us implementing this program; and why it is more beneficial for us to rent 0.0 systems for consistent income for the CFC (to the benefit of the renting corporations). As Mynnna's article points out, renting income far surpasses any income we could hope to gain from r32/r64 moons across the entirety of our space. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense to botch this opportunity at the coalition level. Scamming or otherwise pushing out renting corporations would only negatively hurt the CFC, as we would lose the income from happily-renting corporations. This is why, much to the dismay of many common goons, we are implementing and fully supporting this program. Furthermore, members of PBLRD are blue to the entire CFC- meaning the blue on blue rules apply and are strictly enforced. Also- Zapranothe wrote: Btw, any chance I could have the 6 billion ISK you bastards scammed from my main applied to my 1st three months of rent? We are not currently accepting up front payment of rentals for multiple months in advance. I'm not sure who you sent your ISK to, but it wasn't through this program.
Bill Trent The New Eden School of trade 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 08:00:00 - [12] - Quote Like it or not, this is probably the best offer you're going to get. The fact that Goons need income from rental has been widely discussed, it's a direct consequence of Odyssey and alchemy changes making Technetium worthless. It's also pretty widely known most of Goon space is unused and empty, just fly a covops through there to see for yourself. Scamming you for rental makes no sense: you get at most one month worth of income, whereas you would get the same from real renting every single month, for less effort. The alternatives are N3 and PL (not sure if the latter still have room up for rent, I need to check). N3 offered to do the defense of Fountain for TEST, but mostly lost to Goons and then quickly left their allies to die in 6VDT. Again, widely documented in every possible Eve news source. You think they will help you as a renter if Goons come after their rental territory, which they're now essentially guaranteed to do? While N3 was losing the war in Fountain, their directors made off with the rental income (400B or so). I don't think many people got scammed out of 400B from a Goon yet If you think ahead, this is probably the most lucrative (I'm not saying moral ) deal to make today, and probably for the foreseeable future until the CFC starts infighting or something. But there's been no signs of that yet. I hope competition between PL and CFC will drive rental prices down even further, BTW.
Tubrug1 Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 241	Posted - 2013.08.31 08:11:00 - [13] - Quote So much grrrgoon here. If this were a scam, they wouldn't have made a renting alliance, transferred 63 systems to it and rented out 10 of those systems. Yours sincerely, Non-CFC member Writer of The Eve Onion http://eveion.blogspot.co.uk/
Clewara Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 08:43:00 - [14] - Quote Mr Omniblivion wrote: Zapranothe wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1k9m2g/finally_the_common_capsuleer_has_the_power_to/ This is why, much to the dismay of many common goons, we are implementing and fully supporting this program. I was watching the thread--"dismay" is a hilarious understatement. Many goon tears were collected that day, and that's a rare vintage indeed. However, their leadership is undivided and very, very firm on this: no rental scams. Nothing will be tolerated that jeopardizes this rental program. Mr Omniblivion wrote: Furthermore, members of PBLRD are blue to the entire CFC- meaning the blue on blue rules apply and are strictly enforced. This is actually an important point. If you're blue to the CFC, there will be certain hazards that will no longer apply to you--not least of which is that the CFC won't be coming to blow up your stuff and steal your sov. I freely grant that goons, as a group, are among Eve's biggest bullies...which would be a good reason for them to be, if not strictly on your side, at the very least harassing some other poor sod.
Mr Omniblivion GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 10	Posted - 2013.08.31 09:05:00 - [15] - Quote Bill Trent wrote: If someone wants to make a more in-depth comparison between the financial side of the rental offers and expand on the above this would be really appreciated. We're considering doing this with our 150 man corp but we want to be as informed as possible before making the jump. Because their thread is a few down from this one, I'll do a quick comparison of the N3 rental system vs the CFC rental system. Price Our prices are comparable. We charge flat rates for things such as stations, number of belts, ice, etc. It looks like their pricing varies on a per system basis. Our prices don't factor in actual planet compositions for PI, which n3 might (which works out in CFC renter advantage if they're savvy with Dotlan). Process The actual process of joining any renter alliance is the same- you have to drop your current alliance (if any) and join the renter sov alliance. If you don't pay your rent in a timely manner, you get kicked from the alliance (which is consistent with all renting entities for obvious reasons). Ice Renters in CFC space get exclusive access to their ice belts- at the listed price of the system. Renters in N3 space do not get exclusive access unless they pay an additional (not clarified) fee. In reality, if you're renting a system with ice, you should be mining that ice as it is extremely profitable. I'm literally mining ice with a fleet of miners as I am writing this. Oh, also- CFC has the only 0.0 access to Pristine White Glaze... which if you haven't noticed, is the most valuable of racial ice. Upgrades The upgrade rules for each rental program is pretty consistent- the renters provide the upgrades (if not already installed), and they install them. The benefit with CFC is that since we've been in this space for a while, many of the systems available for rent already have some (if not most) upgrades. CFC rental systems do differ because we do not allow Cyno Jammers or CSAAs. If you're looking to build supers as a renter, CFC is not the place for you (nor do we recommend any renting corporation to build their own supers- just has problems written all over it). Moons All renting SOV claims their r64 moons- that's a given. PL/N3 are on a first come, first serve basis for r32s. Regardless of rental area, good luck finding any unclaimed r32s. CFC does retain ownership of r16s, only where they are already towered. If you find an r16 and it's untowered, it's yours. CFC charges its members taxes on moon minerals, so most r8s and r16s in your space are likely free (again, this varies by system). CFC renters are able to tower any moons that do not have existing towers up, but they do not get to request that CFC members take down their towers. This is simple- many CFC members spread throughout and lived in the space we are now renting (because it's good space)- so we're not going to further detriment those that have moved by making them detower reaction chains and r8's/r16s. The good news is that CFC members with towers in a rented system will have a vested interest in the security of those systems- I know that I wouldn't want my chains to be harassed even if they're in rental space. Defense This is another common theme- CFC, N3 and PL don't actively provide day-to-day security of individual systems. That said, each entity does protect the Sov of their renter systems. I can't comment on how effectively each coalition compares in terms of overall defense and security, but I will say that we did just win a war fighting against both N3 and PL. Contract Termination Again, another common theme. If you break the rules (there aren't many), then you risk getting kicked from the renter alliance and losing blue status. There are no "hidden rules" with CFC- we post them for the public to see (linked in the OP). We would prefer that our systems always be rented; it literally costs us money to have vacant systems. Therefore, we're going to do everything we can to keep systems rented on a consistent basis. Keeping systems rented means keeping the renters happy- and in return we are able to earn income as a coalition. Our largest concern is AWOXing- that is, renters scouting out CFC members to gank. See the rules about AWOXing in the link listed in the OP (that's a strict rule). Intel PBLRD offers regional intel channels for PBLRD members- we encourage renters to actively form up and go on ops together in PBLRD and non-CFC territories. N3 does have intel channels (as described on their rules page), but I can't comment on the integrity or activity of those channels. You can guarantee that if a CFC member is in PBLRD territory (fueling their POS, for example), that they'll be actively monitoring/updating the PBLRD intel channels. Hopefully that's provided some additional insight. I'll edit this post over the next several days if there are other key points that I've missed.
Dyllyn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 18	Posted - 2013.08.31 09:35:00 - [16] - Quote I am a EUTZ/AUTZ liaison and will be generally online during those hours to handle applications and questions. You can also contact Chinicata Shihari during EUTZ
Chinicata Shihari Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 8	Posted - 2013.08.31 09:38:00 - [17] - Quote I can confirm i am an EUTZ Liaison. Contact me if you have any questions or querys regarding renting with us.
Bill Trent The New Eden School of trade 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 10:02:00 - [18] - Quote Bill Trent wrote: I hope competition between PL and CFC will drive rental prices down even further, BTW. If you rent from either it's probably worth checking which moons you get exactly in your system. I see Goons only allow you to mine R8 and below, I thought PL had a better deal there but I have to re-check. PL's deal is better here, even if it's not as precise as I would like: "- All moons in the system (except a very few highend like tech/64s) are for the renters. If a PL tower should be on a moon you want, it will be taken down within a reasonable time." N3's deal is essentially the same as Goons, if you assume most high end moons will already be taken: "All R64 moon are property of N3 without exception. All other moons in a system are first come first serve via N3 and the renter." N3 further has some hidden costs - they will run signatures and mine in your space, unless you pay extra. You can do cap building but you have to sell them to N3. They don't even guarantee they will defend their sov (if you've been following politics, no wonder...). I like PLs deal best in terms of rules but it depends on the real costs of course - their pricing isn't public.
Lair Osen Unlawful Unit 5	Posted - 2013.08.31 10:04:00 - [19] - Quote PBLRD stands for? Is there any way to get permission for a CSAA if you want one? What is an 'escalation ship'?
Clewara Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 10:06:00 - [20] - Quote For anyone who's read down this far, I, too, am a liaison for the new CFC renting program. As I'm on the western end of the NATZ, and have an Eve client on for much of my day and evening, I'm available for the EUTZ as well as NATZ, with the ability to stay up late for you AUTZ folks. But really, any of us are available to answer your questions, and we communicate almost constantly via jabber. Come by and see us!

Chinicata Shihari Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 8	Posted - 2013.08.31 10:15:00 - [21] - Quote Lair Osen wrote: PBLRD stands for? Is there any way to get permission for a CSAA if you want one? What is an 'escalation ship' classified as? PBLRD is the alliance ticker. Its a lot easier than writing Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere. At the current time there is no way you can get a CSAA. And an escalation ship is a ship which will be able to run DED complexs. EG. Tengu. If you say your going to run an escalation and your in a frigate we will know something is up.
Mrs Forum Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.08.31 10:37:00 - [22] - Quote I-¦m very interested in the total amount of ISK and victims after this scam is finished
Golar Crexis Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 48	Posted - 2013.08.31 10:52:00 - [23] - Quote Posting to just say this is legit and the cfc have already set up sov and systems under their renting alliance. Errybody in eve is renting now including pizza
Proletariat Tingtango GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 582	Posted - 2013.08.31 12:17:00 - [24] - Quote If anyone has any doubts about this programs legitimacy, maybe we need to leak all the goon tears this generated internally. There's no way someone can see that much gnashing of teeth and think this is a scam.
Shaun Iwaira Dropbear Preservation Society Test Alliance Please Ignore 1	Posted - 2013.08.31 13:05:00 - [25] - Quote Lair Osen wrote: PBLRD stands for? PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence. "Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears"
Zane Lowe I Need Some Brothers of Tangra 92	Posted - 2013.08.31 13:30:00 - [26] - Quote Lair Osen wrote: PBLRD stands for? Is there any way to get permission for a CSAA if you want one? What is an 'escalation ship' classified as? Just a FYI, both PL and N3 allow you to build with CSAAs, and renting a system gives you full rights to the moons (except R64s). Also, they will not kill you for using their stations or just showing up in their space, as many goons have sworn to do.
Bill Trent The New Eden School of trade 1	Posted - 2013.08.31 14:43:00 - [27] - Quote Zane Lowe wrote: Just a FYI, both PL and N3 allow you to build with CSAAs, and renting a system gives you full rights to the moons (except R64s). N3 does not give you full rights to the moons. If they're towered (as any valuable one will be), you're SOL.
Dave Stark 3433	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:18:00 - [28] - Quote Shaun Iwaira wrote: Lair Osen wrote: PBLRD stands for? PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence. "Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears" just out of curiosity; what systems are test renting out currently?
Cyrus Vorkethian Viziam Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:40:00 - [29] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Shaun Iwaira wrote: Lair Osen wrote: PBLRD stands for? PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence. "Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears" just out of curiosity; what systems are test renting out currently? Low sec, Goons wanted there space. So they took it.
michael chasseur Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 27	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:42:00 - [30] - Quote seems totally legit lol



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