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Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:15:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Rekon X wrote:
Oh yea, especially when their alliance promotes scamming and is built around and on scamming.
Oh, but you are a goon. Using that CSM tag to promote this?
And your tagline "Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal" == scamming
Our alliance is built on a lot of hard work, and a dependability and trustworthiness that our allies can count on. The presence of the CSM tag is incidental. This is alliance business, and this is my primary alliance character upon which I conduct alliance business. And the GEWC is a fancy name for our finance directorate, of which I am a part. Sorry to disappoint, though. 
Yea, propaganda works on the weak minded. But in reality your hard work ... was scamming bob.
And your title screems "what's the next big goon scam". Oh, here it is. |

Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:22:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for? As you might imagine given the long-term anti-rental stance of CONDI and other alliances within the CFC, we had to make it clear that our renters wouldn't be considered part of the CFC.
Of course, the single biggest requirement of being in the CFC isn't very appealing to the sort of players who want to rent: having the right ships on the right line at the right time. If you're in the CFC...
- You'll be expected to deploy halfway across the universe on an hour's notice.
- Most of your action will be in giant "blob" fleets of a full 255 pilots.
- You'll be required to be on jabber and voice comms pretty much all your waking hours.
Most people who aren't really into the PvP side of Eve don't want those things, and we don't blame you; we're offering a way to reap the benefits of our bloodthirsty sociopathy for a modest amount per month--the amount of time you spend plinking at rocks and snowballs almost anywhere else would be far more efficiently spent up here. Why, I was talking with someone just today who was pulling in nearly three-quarters of a billion ISK in ice per hour, in a system comparable to ones we have on offer.
I should probably mention that one can get a new character into a Retriever and making money ice mining within a week, by the way. I'm doing it myself, although I have to pause more often than I'd like to support the war effort.
Where was I? Ah, yes. The professions of renters aren't usually ones you find a lot of in sov null. Pay us, do the stuff you like and we don't, and we all get richer!
However, due to the resistance we're getting about all this on the home front, we adopted the long-standing term "Pubbie"--which means "people who aren't in our group"--to the ticker of the alliance. Sure it gets used as a pejorative, but from the standpoint of any group you are a part of, everyone not in it is a pubbie.
But we wanted to make sure everyone knew you were our pubbies, so "publords", or "lords of pubbies".
How does that suit you? |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:32:00 -
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Clewara wrote: But we wanted to make sure everyone knew you were our pubbies, so "publords", or "lords of pubbies".
How does that suit you?
Scamlord would be more suitable. I'll go with that. |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:43:00 -
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It's of little consequence anyway, seeing as NPC corps are not eligible to rent. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:19:00 -
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Immaterial what random idiots think about the program anyway. The program is for people who realize the wisdom (renting systems from a politically and militarily stable coalition with some of the best quality space) in the deal and are happy to sign up. These are the smart people who can see through the shitposts to what this is, a good business deal resulting in both sides getting what they want. |

Lambert Simnel
PWLS Enterprises
20
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:30:00 -
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Just out of interest I was wondering why you placed the prohibition on CSAAs for renters. I notice other groups allow them. I assume it is due to some strategic purpose?
By the way I think everyone needs to settle down and accept that Goons now rent and that at the first sniff of a scam all that potential space income they are currently losing to their competitors disappears. And no, not a Goon alt. |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
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Posted - 2013.09.02 00:38:00 -
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Lambert Simnel wrote:Just out of interest I was wondering why you placed the prohibition on CSAAs for renters. I notice other groups allow them. I assume it is due to some strategic purpose?
By the way I think everyone needs to settle down and accept that Goons now rent and that at the first sniff of a scam all that potential space income they are currently losing to their competitors disappears. And no, not a Goon alt.
"Strategic purpose" is right on - the extra fee it would incur might be nice but we don't want our space being used to shelter supercap construction that then gets sold to potential foes. It's an extension of our internal policy ("Don't sell them on the open market") and internal capacity is generally enough to meet internal demand, so while renter-builders would be bound by the same rule, they'd find themselves without much of a market. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.02 00:59:00 -
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Lambert Simnel wrote:Just out of interest I was wondering why you placed the prohibition on CSAAs for renters. I notice other groups allow them. I assume it is due to some strategic purpose?
By the way I think everyone needs to settle down and accept that Goons now rent and that at the first sniff of a scam all that potential space income they are currently losing to their competitors disappears. And no, not a Goon alt.
Precisely, it's all about isk and renting is going to earn more than scamming ever could.
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Nex Killer
Drunk3n Warfare
44
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Posted - 2013.09.02 05:06:00 -
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I do have a question. If a renter would like to build a station would their renting fee go up 1B a month because of it? I don't plan on renting just curious. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
56
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:56:00 -
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Clewara wrote:Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for? As you might imagine given the long-term anti-rental stance of CONDI and other alliances within the CFC, we had to make it clear that our renters wouldn't be considered part of the CFC. Of course, the single biggest requirement of being in the CFC isn't very appealing to the sort of players who want to rent: having the right ships on the right line at the right time. If you're in the CFC...
- You'll be expected to deploy halfway across the universe on an hour's notice.
- Most of your action will be in giant "blob" fleets of a full 255 pilots.
- You'll be required to be on jabber and voice comms pretty much all your waking hours.
Most people who aren't really into the PvP side of Eve don't want those things, and we don't blame you; we're offering a way to reap the benefits of our bloodthirsty sociopathy for a modest amount per month--the amount of time you spend plinking at rocks and snowballs almost anywhere else would be far more efficiently spent up here. Why, I was talking with someone just today who was pulling in nearly three-quarters of a billion ISK in ice per hour, in a system comparable to ones we have on offer. I should probably mention that one can get a new character into a Retriever and making money ice mining within a week, by the way. I'm doing it myself, although I have to pause more often than I'd like to support the war effort. Where was I? Ah, yes. The professions of renters aren't usually ones you find a lot of in sov null. Pay us, do the stuff you like and we don't, and we all get richer! However, due to the resistance we're getting about all this on the home front, we adopted the long-standing term "Pubbie"--which means "people who aren't in our group"--to the ticker of the alliance. Sure it gets used as a pejorative, but from the standpoint of any group you are a part of, everyone not in it is a pubbie. But we wanted to make sure everyone knew you were our pubbies, so "publords", or "lords of pubbies". How does that suit you?
Wow it looks very tricky trying to sell this to two different audiences at once. First the internal audiance that have had one of their income streams banned (rental scams) and who had been brought up on promises that renting has bad BOB like behaviour and that Goons would never do it. To appease these people we have the http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Sum_Dum_Fuhks and the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere which is about imperial Japan farming the people of Asia. Basically doing everything possible to denigrate the new customers to appease the internal ire. Then here we have the sweetness and light. What can we do to help. Yes Mr Customer Sir ofc we are going to make it easy and profitable for you. Just let us know what you need and we will come running to install your new kitchen units. Anyone taking bets as to how many "goon alts killing renters" threads are going to be appearing on GD as a result of this tension. /popcorn |
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arabella blood
I Swear She Looked 18
120
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Posted - 2013.09.02 09:38:00 -
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I am actually glad because this renting program is one of the first steps towards your doom... I just hope this post will remain till i could say "told you so nabs" :D |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
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Posted - 2013.09.02 14:17:00 -
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Nex Killer wrote:I do have a question. If a renter would like to build a station would their renting fee go up 1B a month because of it? I don't plan on renting just curious.
The idea of putting up a station that you wouldn't control in space you don't own seems really, really strange to me.
That said, it's actually come up before, and we decided that we'd be open to negotiating some kind of arrangement involving a discount on rent. We would, however, retain final say on whether the type of station desired was acceptable or not. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.02 14:33:00 -
[73] - Quote
http://evenews24.com/2013/08/21/fiddlers-edge-carebear-empires/
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2013.09.02 15:10:00 -
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You are a seriously crazy idiot. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.02 15:51:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:You are a seriously crazy idiot.
Yea, all those pubbies you hate, come rent from the goons. |

Dave Stark
3503
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Posted - 2013.09.02 17:42:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:You are a seriously crazy idiot. Yea, all those pubbies you hate, come rent from the goons.
there's a universe full of "pubbies to hate" do you really think they're more or less likely to shoot the ones giving them billions of isk per month?
no, don't reply.
think about it, and think about it a bit more. c'mon, you can do it champ, you can see where you've been going wrong for the last 4 pages. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.02 17:48:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Rekon X wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:You are a seriously crazy idiot. Yea, all those pubbies you hate, come rent from the goons. there's a universe full of "pubbies to hate" do you really think they're more or less likely to shoot the ones giving them billions of isk per month? no, don't reply. think about it, and think about it a bit more. c'mon, you can do it champ, you can see where you've been going wrong for the last 4 pages.
Stupid would be to rent from the. But you go ahead. I'll laugh. |

Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.02 19:33:00 -
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Check out our new Renting Quick Reference Guide! |

Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
12
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Posted - 2013.09.02 19:45:00 -
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Even if this isn't a scam you guys need to rework your terms, or the price. Compared to all your competitors this is crazy. Renting is usually equated with slavery all over this forum, but in this case considering your terms it actually is slavery. Who the hell are these people that are taking this deal? |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2781

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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:33:00 -
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I have removed some personal attacks from this thread. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.03 15:58:00 -
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Great news! We are now up to 16 renting partners!
Don't miss out on the opportunity to "own" a piece of 0.0 space!
~Check out this infographic~ |

Sieg oder Valhalla
The Advent of Faith
19
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:34:00 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:
CFC will not protect your space from roaming gangs or campers. We will, however, fully protect the PBLRD Sov.
A lot of these "roaming gangs or campers" will be Goons flying alts in the neutral corps that have already been setup for this very purpose. You'll be scouted by "blues" and then killed by their alts. You have been warned.
Shaun Iwaira wrote:Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for?
PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence. "Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears"
And it gets better, not only are the renting terms worse than what you can get from PL or NC. from an organization with a proven record of scamming and general scorn for "pubbies", but you have to wear that insult as your ticker, lol. I find it very sad that anyone would seriously consider this offer. |

Ewan Asif Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:18:00 -
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Sieg oder Valhalla wrote:not only are the renting terms worse than what you can get from PL or NC. from an organization with a proven record of scamming and general scorn for "pubbies", but you have to wear that insult as your ticker. Whereas the PL rental alliance is called BOT, because they unironically acknowledge that most of their customers are running bots and think its funny that CCP engineered the game to make BOT income indispensable. At least with the new rental organizations out of game rents are not fundamental to their core business as it was for -A- and Solar Fleet and is still for XIX. |

Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:20:00 -
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We're up to 18 renting partners! Don't miss out on this opportunity to take advantage of cheap 0.0 space!
Remember: -0% refinery taxes - you can refine at nearby PBLRD stations even if your system doesn't have one! -Set up your own POCOs (0% or charge a nominal percent to help pay for rent!) -No required ratting tax! Set up your own tax rates and manage your members as you'd like! -Exclusive access to production/research lines in the station in your rented system! -Sov bonus on POS towers! Save 25% on fuel costs! -Easy access to Jita via PBLRD space! |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
202

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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:34:00 -
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Removed some off topic posts. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:26:00 -
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We're up to 21 renting partners!
There are still systems available, including systems with Pristine White Glaze- next door to a refinery!
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.06 16:42:00 -
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We're up to 23 corporations! 23 systems rented so far- don't miss your chance to partake in a new 0.0 adventure! |

Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.09.07 19:28:00 -
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We are still looking for renters contact one of us for more details |

Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.09.09 16:30:00 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:Update: 09/09/13
CHRIBBA SECURED We are now offering the option to secure your first month's rent through Chribba! This is an option and is by no means necessary. See this post for rules and the process of renting with Chribba. You must rent with one of the 4 people listed above in order to utilize Chribba.
We have partnered with Chribba in order to provide an option to secure your transaction with the CFC. He will post shortly in order to confirm his participation in this program.
Here are the rules: -Renter is responsible for Chribba's fee, and is charged in addition to the rent of the system. The fee is 100 million ISK per system. -The length of the secured term is 15 days per system -Utilizing Chribba's services are optional, but available for any system -Absolutely zero system rental scams are allowed by the CFC, and Chribba will cease services and abscond our held ISK if such a scam occurs. We recommend always working with the Rental Management Team for your system rental needs. -Any claims against either side will be evaluated by Chribba and will be discussed by both parties. Sufficient proof (API verified killmails, Corp API data, Screen Shots) are absolutely required in the event of any claim by either party. -Subsequent months' rent is due in full on the first day of the month (and cannot be secured via this program at this time).
Here is the process: 1) You must work with one of the four rental managers listed in the OP in order to utilize Chribba's services renting from the CFC. 2) Upon agreement of the terms with one of the rental managers, you will transfer the ISK to Chribba to hold rather than directly to the [PBLRD] Exec Corp. 3) Chribba holds the ISK for 15 days from the beginning of the term. If the 15 days falls into the following month, the renter is STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NEXT MONTH'S RENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH. 4) At the end of the 15 day term, Chribba will verify that the corporation is still a member of [PBLRD] and that they have assets in (or nearby) their rented system. If everything is in good order, Chribba will forward the rent to the [PBLRD] exec corp.
If you have questions regarding this process, please contact me directly.
We are committed to providing this reliable renting service to the general public, and are taking every step possible to secure these transactions for our renting partners and for the CFC.
Also- side note- we are up to 25 renting corporations with nearly 600 characters in the alliance. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9335
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:00:00 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:Update: 09/09/13
CHRIBBA SECURED We are now offering the option to secure your first month's rent through Chribba! This is an option and is by no means necessary. See this post for rules and the process of renting with Chribba. You must rent with one of the 4 people listed above in order to utilize Chribba.
We have partnered with Chribba in order to provide an option to secure your transaction with the CFC. He will post shortly in order to confirm his participation in this program. Here are the rules: -Renter is responsible for Chribba's fee, and is charged in addition to the rent of the system. The fee is 100 million ISK per system. -The length of the secured term is 15 days per system -Utilizing Chribba's services are optional, but available for any system -Absolutely zero system rental scams are allowed by the CFC, and Chribba will cease services and abscond our held ISK if such a scam occurs. We recommend always working with the Rental Management Team for your system rental needs. -Any claims against either side will be evaluated by Chribba and will be discussed by both parties. Sufficient proof (API verified killmails, Corp API data, Screen Shots) are absolutely required in the event of any claim by either party. -Subsequent months' rent is due in full on the first day of the month (and cannot be secured via this program at this time). Here is the process: 1) You must work with one of the four rental managers listed in the OP in order to utilize Chribba's services renting from the CFC. 2) Upon agreement of the terms with one of the rental managers, you will transfer the ISK to Chribba to hold rather than directly to the [PBLRD] Exec Corp. 3) Chribba holds the ISK for 15 days from the beginning of the term. If the 15 days falls into the following month, the renter is STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NEXT MONTH'S RENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH. 4) At the end of the 15 day term, Chribba will verify that the corporation is still a member of [PBLRD] and that they have assets in (or nearby) their rented system. If everything is in good order, Chribba will forward the rent to the [PBLRD] exec corp. If you have questions regarding this process, please contact me directly. We are committed to providing this reliable renting service to the general public, and are taking every step possible to secure these transactions for our renting partners and for the CFC. Also- side note- we are up to 25 renting corporations with nearly 600 characters in the alliance. Confirming that I've been in talks regarding assisting in securing rental ventures like this.
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