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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:35:00 -
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Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere [PBLRD]CFC Rental ProgramThe CFC is now offering a rental program via the alliance Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere. We are renting out a plethora of systems in Vale of the Silent and will be soon offering several other region(s) within CFC space.
First Things First System rental scams are explicitly forbidden in the CFC. If someone is attempting a scam to rent a system within CFC space (usually by requesting a down payment sent directly to them), please inform any CFC director. This rule is explicit to renting systems and no other forms of recruitment/sale/etc.
Renting is Mutually Beneficial As demonstrated by other 0.0 coalitions, renting is a valuable proposition for both parties. The renters benefit from 0.0 ISK making opportunities, and the hosting coalitions get reliable, consistent rent income for the space that they own and protect.
Why the CFC? Being one of the strongest coalitions in the game, the CFC is able to effectively control, protect and acquire space for its members and renters. With the CFC, there is significantly reduced risk of losing your space, and renters have security in knowing that your space will be protected from wide scale invasion. There are currently 10 satisfied corporations renting from the CFC thus far- feel free to reach out to any of them to ask about their experience.
What We Offer
- Guaranteed Sov for renters to utilize (owned by PBLRD)
- A variety of systems including systems with Ice, high True Sec, and PBLRD Stations
- Low-Cost opportunities for blooming corporations or individuals (these may not include stations)
- PBLRD Jump Bridge Systems
- 0% Tax Refineries
- Set up your own POCOS (at 0%!)
- Easy access to empire via PBLRD transit systems
- System/Station Upgrades- you bring it, we install it for you!
- Access to open moons
- Belt/Anomaly exclusivity in your system
- Access to PBLRD region-wide intel channels
- Opportunities to fleet up with like-minded renter corporations for large scale ops and gate camps
Rental Fees
- Truesec +1,000,000,000 Per 0.1 Point of Truesec
- Station +1,000,000,000 for a Station
- Ice +1,000,000,000 per Ice Belt
- Extra Belts +1,000,000,000 Flat charge for systems with more than 15 asteroid belts. Systems with 15 or less asteroid belts incur no additional charge.
- Dead End +500,000,000 If the system is a dead end
Rules in PBLRD Space These are a list of key rules- for a full list, check out the Official Rental Rules.
- You can tower POS on any unclaimed moon in your system(s). R16-R64 moons are exclusive to the CFC.
- Cyno Jammers/CSAA are not allowed. Any other POS modules are allowed.
- No access to CFC or other PBLRD space, except for designated pipe systems.
- Rental corporations are responsible for AWOXers within their corporation
- CFC will not protect your space from roaming gangs or campers. We will, however, fully protect the PBLRD Sov.
- You are able to briefly travel to CFC/PBLRD systems to follow escalations- however, you will be shot on site if you are in a non-escalation ship (or if you are loitering in a system without doing an escalation).
- Rent is charged on a prorated basis for the month you join, and is always due on the first day of the month for each subsequent month.
Available Systems Please visit this link for a list of available systems and their respective price.
Steps to Apply:
- Contact Mr Omniblivion, Clewara or Dyllyn with questions or inquiries. DO NOT send any ISK or down payment to these representatives.
- Once you are satisfied, we will assist you with connecting with the CFC Finance Team to formalize a contract.
- When the CFC Finance team has approved your request, they will direct you to submit your rental fees to the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere Exec corporation.
- Once paid, your corporation will be accepted into PBLRD and you can then immediately move to your new 0.0 system.
Please feel free to contact me in game with questions or concerns. |
Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.08.31 03:28:00 -
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Yes we of course know that goons that pinnacle of honesty and trustworthyness.
OK I tried I cant really say that with a straight face.
Lets face the facts, goons are the biggest and best know scammers in eve. They wont think twice about scamming you or stabbing you in the back.
Let me remind you of the famous goon saying "Not here to ruin the game, just here to ruin your game."
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Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 04:15:00 -
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Dar Saleem wrote:Yes we of course know that goons that pinnacle of honesty and trustworthyness. This isn't (only) a goon operation. We're renting out space that's been given up by multiple alliances within the CFC, and all alliances within the CFC will be reaping the benefits of the renters we attract.
Not all alliances within the CFC are alike, and yet, we're all on board with this. There's plenty of space to spare up here, and even the least nullsec system has better PI, ratting, ice, and mineral benefits than any low or high security system. As a renter with us, you'll be buying exclusive access to that wealth for you and your corporation.
Consider, for a moment, how much money you could be making in an ice-mining Mackinaw right now, slicing through Pristine White Glaze for nitrogen isotopes by the freighterload.
Or you could take an Ishtar with sentry drones out for a spin and plow through a Guristas shooting gallery, including the right to run escalations for component and ship BPC's.
One of the reasons I was invited to participate in finding potential renters for this program is because I'm not a goon, and it was hoped having some of the allies on the team would help lend credence to the enterprise.
However--you don't have to take my word for it, or Mr Omniblivion's--PBLRD now has several member corps, including corporations with history as RAZOR and PL renters. Anyone from any of them is welcome to post in this thread about their experience with us, especially during this delicate initial period of operations. |
Necron314
ZERO Heavy Industries co
6
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Posted - 2013.08.31 04:47:00 -
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I'm currently waiting chribba to secure our first month renting fee. |
Murdock Willows
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.08.31 06:16:00 -
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Don't rent from these guys, they already scammed me, Completely non trustworthy as an organization. Rent from them and you will be screwed in the long run |
Preezy
Red Eye Flyers
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 06:20:00 -
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These guys are a bunch of liars, you really want to give isk to them? Other rental opportunities exists that wont screw you over. Goons will double cross you if necessary, don't trust them. |
Danny Austrene
Knights of the Burning Lobster
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 06:22:00 -
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Only idiots trust the cfc |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1193
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Posted - 2013.08.31 07:06:00 -
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Oh... more scams |
Zapranothe
Tax Evasion Shield
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 07:33:00 -
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I would to add my personal contribution to CFCs shiny new rental enterprise that you can read at the link below. Btw, any chance I could have the 6 billion ISK you bastards scammed from my main applied to my 1st three months of rent?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1k9m2g/finally_the_common_capsuleer_has_the_power_to/
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nahjustwarpin
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2013.08.31 07:45:00 -
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and when you'll give me back that 20 billion isk that you only wanted to borrow for an hour? |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.08.31 07:58:00 -
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Zapranothe- your article actually reinforces the purpose of us implementing this program; and why it is more beneficial for us to rent 0.0 systems for consistent income for the CFC (to the benefit of the renting corporations).
As Mynnna's article points out, renting income far surpasses any income we could hope to gain from r32/r64 moons across the entirety of our space. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense to botch this opportunity at the coalition level. Scamming or otherwise pushing out renting corporations would only negatively hurt the CFC, as we would lose the income from happily-renting corporations.
This is why, much to the dismay of many common goons, we are implementing and fully supporting this program. Furthermore, members of PBLRD are blue to the entire CFC- meaning the blue on blue rules apply and are strictly enforced.
Also-
Zapranothe wrote: Btw, any chance I could have the 6 billion ISK you bastards scammed from my main applied to my 1st three months of rent?
We are not currently accepting up front payment of rentals for multiple months in advance. I'm not sure who you sent your ISK to, but it wasn't through this program. |
Bill Trent
The New Eden School of trade
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 08:00:00 -
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Like it or not, this is probably the best offer you're going to get.
The fact that Goons need income from rental has been widely discussed, it's a direct consequence of Odyssey and alchemy changes making Technetium worthless. It's also pretty widely known most of Goon space is unused and empty, just fly a covops through there to see for yourself. Scamming you for rental makes no sense: you get at most one month worth of income, whereas you would get the same from real renting every single month, for less effort.
The alternatives are N3 and PL (not sure if the latter still have room up for rent, I need to check). N3 offered to do the defense of Fountain for TEST, but mostly lost to Goons and then quickly left their allies to die in 6VDT. Again, widely documented in every possible Eve news source. You think they will help you as a renter if Goons come after their rental territory, which they're now essentially guaranteed to do? While N3 was losing the war in Fountain, their directors made off with the rental income (400B or so). I don't think many people got scammed out of 400B from a Goon yet
If you think ahead, this is probably the most lucrative (I'm not saying moral ) deal to make today, and probably for the foreseeable future until the CFC starts infighting or something. But there's been no signs of that yet.
I hope competition between PL and CFC will drive rental prices down even further, BTW. |
Tubrug1
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
241
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Posted - 2013.08.31 08:11:00 -
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So much grrrgoon here. If this were a scam, they wouldn't have made a renting alliance, transferred 63 systems to it and rented out 10 of those systems. Yours sincerely, Non-CFC member Writer of The Eve Onion http://eveion.blogspot.co.uk/
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Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 08:43:00 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is why, much to the dismay of many common goons, we are implementing and fully supporting this program. I was watching the thread--"dismay" is a hilarious understatement. Many goon tears were collected that day, and that's a rare vintage indeed. However, their leadership is undivided and very, very firm on this: no rental scams. Nothing will be tolerated that jeopardizes this rental program.
Mr Omniblivion wrote: Furthermore, members of PBLRD are blue to the entire CFC- meaning the blue on blue rules apply and are strictly enforced. This is actually an important point. If you're blue to the CFC, there will be certain hazards that will no longer apply to you--not least of which is that the CFC won't be coming to blow up your stuff and steal your sov.
I freely grant that goons, as a group, are among Eve's biggest bullies...which would be a good reason for them to be, if not strictly on your side, at the very least harassing some other poor sod. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:05:00 -
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Bill Trent wrote:If someone wants to make a more in-depth comparison between the financial side of the rental offers and expand on the above this would be really appreciated. We're considering doing this with our 150 man corp but we want to be as informed as possible before making the jump.
Because their thread is a few down from this one, I'll do a quick comparison of the N3 rental system vs the CFC rental system.
Price Our prices are comparable. We charge flat rates for things such as stations, number of belts, ice, etc. It looks like their pricing varies on a per system basis. Our prices don't factor in actual planet compositions for PI, which n3 might (which works out in CFC renter advantage if they're savvy with Dotlan).
Process The actual process of joining any renter alliance is the same- you have to drop your current alliance (if any) and join the renter sov alliance. If you don't pay your rent in a timely manner, you get kicked from the alliance (which is consistent with all renting entities for obvious reasons).
Ice Renters in CFC space get exclusive access to their ice belts- at the listed price of the system. Renters in N3 space do not get exclusive access unless they pay an additional (not clarified) fee. In reality, if you're renting a system with ice, you should be mining that ice as it is extremely profitable. I'm literally mining ice with a fleet of miners as I am writing this. Oh, also- CFC has the only 0.0 access to Pristine White Glaze... which if you haven't noticed, is the most valuable of racial ice.
Upgrades The upgrade rules for each rental program is pretty consistent- the renters provide the upgrades (if not already installed), and they install them. The benefit with CFC is that since we've been in this space for a while, many of the systems available for rent already have some (if not most) upgrades. CFC rental systems do differ because we do not allow Cyno Jammers or CSAAs. If you're looking to build supers as a renter, CFC is not the place for you (nor do we recommend any renting corporation to build their own supers- just has problems written all over it).
Moons All renting SOV claims their r64 moons- that's a given. PL/N3 are on a first come, first serve basis for r32s. Regardless of rental area, good luck finding any unclaimed r32s. CFC does retain ownership of r16s, only where they are already towered. If you find an r16 and it's untowered, it's yours. CFC charges its members taxes on moon minerals, so most r8s and r16s in your space are likely free (again, this varies by system). CFC renters are able to tower any moons that do not have existing towers up, but they do not get to request that CFC members take down their towers. This is simple- many CFC members spread throughout and lived in the space we are now renting (because it's good space)- so we're not going to further detriment those that have moved by making them detower reaction chains and r8's/r16s. The good news is that CFC members with towers in a rented system will have a vested interest in the security of those systems- I know that I wouldn't want my chains to be harassed even if they're in rental space.
Defense This is another common theme- CFC, N3 and PL don't actively provide day-to-day security of individual systems. That said, each entity does protect the Sov of their renter systems. I can't comment on how effectively each coalition compares in terms of overall defense and security, but I will say that we did just win a war fighting against both N3 and PL.
Contract Termination Again, another common theme. If you break the rules (there aren't many), then you risk getting kicked from the renter alliance and losing blue status. There are no "hidden rules" with CFC- we post them for the public to see (linked in the OP). We would prefer that our systems always be rented; it literally costs us money to have vacant systems. Therefore, we're going to do everything we can to keep systems rented on a consistent basis. Keeping systems rented means keeping the renters happy- and in return we are able to earn income as a coalition. Our largest concern is AWOXing- that is, renters scouting out CFC members to gank. See the rules about AWOXing in the link listed in the OP (that's a strict rule).
Intel PBLRD offers regional intel channels for PBLRD members- we encourage renters to actively form up and go on ops together in PBLRD and non-CFC territories. N3 does have intel channels (as described on their rules page), but I can't comment on the integrity or activity of those channels. You can guarantee that if a CFC member is in PBLRD territory (fueling their POS, for example), that they'll be actively monitoring/updating the PBLRD intel channels.
Hopefully that's provided some additional insight. I'll edit this post over the next several days if there are other key points that I've missed.
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Dyllyn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:35:00 -
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I am a EUTZ/AUTZ liaison and will be generally online during those hours to handle applications and questions.
You can also contact Chinicata Shihari during EUTZ |
Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:38:00 -
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I can confirm i am an EUTZ Liaison. Contact me if you have any questions or querys regarding renting with us. |
Bill Trent
The New Eden School of trade
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:02:00 -
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Bill Trent wrote: I hope competition between PL and CFC will drive rental prices down even further, BTW. If you rent from either it's probably worth checking which moons you get exactly in your system. I see Goons only allow you to mine R8 and below, I thought PL had a better deal there but I have to re-check.
PL's deal is better here, even if it's not as precise as I would like:
"- All moons in the system (except a very few highend like tech/64s) are for the renters. If a PL tower should be on a moon you want, it will be taken down within a reasonable time."
N3's deal is essentially the same as Goons, if you assume most high end moons will already be taken:
"All R64 moon are property of N3 without exception. All other moons in a system are first come first serve via N3 and the renter."
N3 further has some hidden costs - they will run signatures and mine in your space, unless you pay extra. You can do cap building but you have to sell them to N3. They don't even guarantee they will defend their sov (if you've been following politics, no wonder...).
I like PLs deal best in terms of rules but it depends on the real costs of course - their pricing isn't public. |
Lair Osen
Unlawful Unit
5
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:04:00 -
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PBLRD stands for?
Is there any way to get permission for a CSAA if you want one?
What is an 'escalation ship'? |
Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:06:00 -
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For anyone who's read down this far, I, too, am a liaison for the new CFC renting program. As I'm on the western end of the NATZ, and have an Eve client on for much of my day and evening, I'm available for the EUTZ as well as NATZ, with the ability to stay up late for you AUTZ folks.
But really, any of us are available to answer your questions, and we communicate almost constantly via jabber. Come by and see us! |
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Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:15:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for?
Is there any way to get permission for a CSAA if you want one?
What is an 'escalation ship' classified as?
PBLRD is the alliance ticker. Its a lot easier than writing Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere.
At the current time there is no way you can get a CSAA.
And an escalation ship is a ship which will be able to run DED complexs. EG. Tengu. If you say your going to run an escalation and your in a frigate we will know something is up. |
Mrs Forum
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:37:00 -
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I-Śm very interested in the total amount of ISK and victims after this scam is finished
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Golar Crexis
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
48
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:52:00 -
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Posting to just say this is legit and the cfc have already set up sov and systems under their renting alliance.
Errybody in eve is renting now including pizza |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
582
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:17:00 -
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If anyone has any doubts about this programs legitimacy, maybe we need to leak all the goon tears this generated internally. There's no way someone can see that much gnashing of teeth and think this is a scam. |
Shaun Iwaira
Dropbear Preservation Society Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.08.31 13:05:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for?
PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence.
"Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears" |
Zane Lowe
I Need Some Brothers of Tangra
92
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Posted - 2013.08.31 13:30:00 -
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Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for?
Is there any way to get permission for a CSAA if you want one?
What is an 'escalation ship' classified as?
Just a FYI, both PL and N3 allow you to build with CSAAs, and renting a system gives you full rights to the moons (except R64s).
Also, they will not kill you for using their stations or just showing up in their space, as many goons have sworn to do. |
Bill Trent
The New Eden School of trade
1
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Posted - 2013.08.31 14:43:00 -
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Zane Lowe wrote: Just a FYI, both PL and N3 allow you to build with CSAAs, and renting a system gives you full rights to the moons (except R64s).
N3 does not give you full rights to the moons. If they're towered (as any valuable one will be), you're SOL. |
Dave Stark
3433
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:18:00 -
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Shaun Iwaira wrote:Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for?
PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence. "Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears"
just out of curiosity; what systems are test renting out currently? |
Cyrus Vorkethian
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:40:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Shaun Iwaira wrote:Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for?
PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence. "Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears" just out of curiosity; what systems are test renting out currently?
Low sec, Goons wanted there space. So they took it. |
michael chasseur
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
27
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:42:00 -
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seems totally legit lol |
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michael chasseur
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
27
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:44:00 -
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obvious goon alt is obvious |
Augustianian
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:59:00 -
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I just want to confirm that PBLRD stands for PubLord, or Pubbie Lord, not unlike Shitlord, the term you often use to describe posters that you do not like.
In other words, every renter wears a derogatory term as their ticker.
Why? Because it is the only way you could sell it to goons.
Nice way to treat "partners" |
Dave Stark
3439
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:09:00 -
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Augustianian wrote:I just want to confirm that PBLRD stands for PubLord, or Pubbie Lord, not unlike Shitlord, the term you often use to describe posters that you do not like.
In other words, every renter wears a derogatory term as their ticker.
Why? Because it is the only way you could sell it to goons.
Nice way to treat "partners"
renters aren't partners, they're customers. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
583
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:38:00 -
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It's weird to see TEST come in and nitpick when they were scamming rentals in fountain space while they were in the midst of having that space taken. |
Targe Contarini
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:46:00 -
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Some quality quotes from Reddit you may want to read before you consider:
Quote:One other issue that people haven't noticed is the requirement that you move any upgrades you want installed, yourself. I dunno if any of you have ever looked at ihub upgrades, but they're not tiny. After Level 2, you need a JF. To get Level 5 upgrades, you need a full Freighter. So if any of their renters want to invest 250mil to get a top-tier pirate detection array, for example, they will have to figure out a way to get a freighter out to their system. Last time I checked, most rental corps don't have bridging titans.
Quote:No jammer covered systems. No escalation travel without posting in local first. No defense assistance pledge against roamers and hotdroppers. No pursuing roamers who streak in and out of your space (because if you leave your ghetto in a combat ship the CFC will blap you immediately and without warning). No regional market access.
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Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.08.31 18:14:00 -
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Mrs Forum wrote:I-Śm very interested in the total amount of ISK and victims after this scam is finished
Yea, rent from RP Mittens, scamlord.
Your assets will be rolled.
Send me any amount of isk, and I'll double it. |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.08.31 18:16:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:If anyone has any doubts about this programs legitimacy, maybe we need to leak all the goon tears this generated internally. There's no way someone can see that much gnashing of teeth and think this is a scam.
Yea, rent from the alliance built on scamming.
You can trust them. |
Deep DonkeyPunch
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:24:00 -
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Why should anyone rent from you if you're not willing to let them use CSAAs, Charge Inane prices. Your basically only getting half a system. Stop being pussies and either stop renting or fully commit to this and make your renters happy you don't even have to defend the CSAAs |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
421
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:30:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. Please keep it civil people!
2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Melissa Beldrulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 21:55:00 -
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Goons just scammed my corp and killed our mining ships, dont trust them |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.08.31 22:17:00 -
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Melissa Beldrulf wrote:Goons just scammed my corp and killed our mining ships, dont trust them
I'm sorry, we don't rent space to NPC corporations. If you're in an NPC corporation, we will definitely shoot your mining ships on sight in our space (or in Caldari space right now!) |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 02:33:00 -
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Yea, rent from the goon scammers. Jita scam alt in charge of the alliance.
Goons are built on scamming. So how long before they roll the system?
All fact. |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 02:39:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. Please keep it civil people!
[i]2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
So how were those posts breaking the rules? Goons scam, it's a fact. They revolve around scams.
One post wanted to get the results of the scam when they were in.
Scam and respectful? How does that work.
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Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 02:52:00 -
[44] - Quote
Send me any amount of ISK and I will double it. (deleted, that was disrespectful also I guess)
Think we have some inside crap going on. |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
522
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 03:40:00 -
[45] - Quote
Rekon X wrote:Send me any amount of ISK and I will double it. (deleted, that was disrespectful also I guess)
Think we have some inside crap going on.
You seem incredibly upset. Can I help you?
Also, thanks for keeping the thread bumped! |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1948
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Posted - 2013.09.01 09:47:00 -
[46] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
Defense This is another common theme- CFC, N3 and PL don't actively provide day-to-day security of individual systems. That said, each entity does protect the Sov of their renter systems. I can't comment on how effectively each coalition compares in terms of overall defense and security, but I will say that we did just win a war fighting against both N3 and PL.
Care to explain which war we lost to you?
Just curious.
Dave Stark wrote:renters aren't partners, they're customers.
Pretty contradictory viewpoint you have there mate, given that the coalition you belong to has long denounced Band of Brothers for looking down on their renters; then again, MBALM lol. |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
522
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 14:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
Xolve wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:
Defense This is another common theme- CFC, N3 and PL don't actively provide day-to-day security of individual systems. That said, each entity does protect the Sov of their renter systems. I can't comment on how effectively each coalition compares in terms of overall defense and security, but I will say that we did just win a war fighting against both N3 and PL.
Care to explain which war we lost to you? Just curious.
Pretty sure PL was helping TEST defend fountain for a bit before getting tired of the dumb **** and going home. And something about trying to headshot VFK, but I don't know much about that. |
BadAssMcKill
Love Squad
339
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 15:10:00 -
[48] - Quote
Hello can I get a price list xd http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif-á |
Golar Crexis
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
53
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 15:11:00 -
[49] - Quote
BadAssMcKill wrote:Hello can I get a price list xd
******* traitor |
Dave Stark
3480
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 15:15:00 -
[50] - Quote
Xolve wrote:Dave Stark wrote:renters aren't partners, they're customers. Pretty contradictory viewpoint you have there mate, given that the coalition you belong to has long denounced Band of Brothers for looking down on their renters; then again, MBALM lol.
I'm sorry does renting have a magically different meaning in eve than it does everywhere else?
when i've rented a house i sure as **** haven't considered my landlord a "partner" in any way shape or form. I give him money, he provides me with a product and/or service (depending on how you look at it) that makes me a customer.
why that should be any different in eve to outside of eve i don't know. |
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handbanana
State War Academy Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:25:00 -
[51] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere [PBLRD]
Goons.. Goons & Co are renting space now.
So, I not only have to trust you, I also get to proudly sport a slur as my new alliance ticker?
And.. I also consent that Goons & Co can shoot me for :reasons: ??
Wait, you're serious!? BAHWAHAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
This has got to be the funniest crap I've heard all week, and it can only get more hilarious. Well done!
GÇŁIt takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.GÇĽ -á-á -Jack Handy
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Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1948
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Posted - 2013.09.01 16:40:00 -
[52] - Quote
Sir Marksalot wrote:Pretty sure PL was helping TEST defend fountain for a bit before getting tired of the dumb **** and going home. And something about trying to headshot VFK, but I don't know much about that.
Fountain was ~Good Fights~, and VFK was years ago.
Dave Stark wrote:why that should be any different in eve to outside of eve i don't know.
Because this isn't RL, and you want these people to give you money for essentially nothing. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.09.01 17:07:00 -
[53] - Quote
Don't miss your chance to get a foothold in 0.0 space!
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere/corporations
13 renting partners and growing~ |
Dave Stark
3484
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 17:07:00 -
[54] - Quote
Xolve wrote:Dave Stark wrote:why that should be any different in eve to outside of eve i don't know. Because this isn't RL, and you want these people to give you money for essentially nothing.
just because it's not RL doesn't mean words have different meanings. although, wanting money for nothing happens in RL too so... *shrug* |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 17:19:00 -
[55] - Quote
So that's a thread. :popcorn:
Anyway, as someone in charge of this, I'd like to pop in and say one minor bit.
If you're interested in the program but are (very reasonably, I must admit) concerned that it is a scam, contact a diplomat first. They can be found in the Goonswarm Federation alliance description. The nature of their position means they're forbidden from scamming, as shockingly enough, diplomacy is a Hard Thing To DoGäó if no one trusts you. Just a few weeks prior to this starting up, they'd have told you "Goonswarm does not rent space"; now they'll refer you to one of us.
If the word of one of the diplomats isn't enough then, well, I guess you can wait a few months and let others test the waters. Over a dozen corporations are already doing so. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2013.09.01 18:18:00 -
[56] - Quote
mynnna wrote:If the word of one of the diplomats isn't enough then, well, I guess you can wait a few months and let others test the waters. Over a dozen corporations are already doing so. But what can you do with nullsec once you move into your own system? Well...
- Station systems: These are systems with stations much like you are used to, keeping you from having to store ships in POS's like wormholers do.
- Ice anomalies: As you know, ice belts have been removed from the game, replaced with anomalies that are easily accessible to all, but once consumed take four hours to respawn. If you think the highsec ice that some of our fellows are disrupting as part of the current interdiction are good, you really should try actual nullsec ice: our anomalies have iceteroid variants with higher percentages of nitrogen isotopes than you can find in empire space. Moreover, CCP is balancing ice anomalies so that 20% of the universe's projected supply comes from null--interdiction or no, that means your ice anomalies, which are reserved for your corp's exclusive use, will be worth more, hour per hour, than anything in highsec.
- Asteroid anomalies: The more a sov null system is mined, the more, and larger, asteroid anomalies can be found therein--and, again, we have variant asteroids with higher percentages of the most lucrative stuff than you can find in empire. Unlike ice anomalies, asteroid anomalies respawn almost immedately, so park your Orca or Rorqual in a POS and fire up the strip miners!
- Planetary Interaction (PI): I make nearly hundreds of millions of ISK a week doing PI in nullsec. You can too--and you won't have to pay the taxes I do! Without getting bogged down in details, I can safely say that any POCO your corp installs will pay for itself within a week. PBLRD does not charge extra for rare planets, such as plasma,
- Ratting: Some systems are improved (and most any system can be improved) to bring you a constant stream of pirates in anomalies. A competent ratter can bring in a million isk a minute while steadily improving their security standing. Unlike many alliances, including some CFC alliances, PBLRD isn't charging a ratting tax.
- Industry: Whether it's in a station system or in your corp's own POS, you'll never have to compete with anyone else for research and manufactory slots when you have a piece of nullsec to call your own!
Best of all, you can enjoy all the benefits of sov null life while having to deal with relatively few of the responsibilities, simply by paying our reasonable monthly rates.
We're all more than aware of the reputation goons have earned over the years, and I'm not going to say it's not well-deserved. So, if you're interested in what the CFC's rental program has to offer, but are hesitant to deal with goons, why not talk to me? TNT has the longest concurrently held sovereignty in all of New Eden, and the systems that we'll be opening soon in Tribute will border directly on our space. I, for one, would be delighted to make, and meet, some new neighbors. |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 18:49:00 -
[57] - Quote
mynnna wrote:So that's a thread. :popcorn:
Anyway, as someone in charge of this, I'd like to pop in and say one minor bit.
If you're interested in the program but are (very reasonably, I must admit) concerned that it is a scam, contact a diplomat first. They can be found in the Goonswarm Federation alliance description. The nature of their position means they're forbidden from scamming, as shockingly enough, diplomacy is a Hard Thing To DoGäó if no one trusts you. Just a few weeks prior to this starting up, they'd have told you "Goonswarm does not rent space"; now they'll refer you to one of us.
If the word of one of the diplomats isn't enough then, well, I guess you can wait a few months and let others test the waters. Over a dozen corporations are already doing so.
Oh yea, especially when their alliance promotes scamming and is built around and on scamming.
Oh, but you are a goon. Using that CSM tag to promote this? |
Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.01 21:12:00 -
[58] - Quote
Shows us on this wallet doll where the mean goons scammed you.
Really though, goonswarm is about members scamming, not the alliance. As much as TEST and N3 might want to convince you goons break agreements and back stab, goons treat their friends very well (hint: go talk to fa, razor, li3, gents, etc). If the alliance leaders make a deal like this, they mean it.
The number one thing all the npc corp pubbies don't seem to understand is making isk, that is what everything is all about. Goon members scam because there is no way to make money off random pubbies any other way. Why would the leaders make this into a scam? At most they will get a month of isk from a few corps. However, a legit rental scheme will earn then hundreds of billions for an indefinite amount of time.
Goons like their isk and a way that makes as much as renting is too good to pass up, that's why this couldn't be a scam.
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Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.01 21:13:00 -
[59] - Quote
Oh and if you engage your brains you might be able to realize what mynna's tag line actually means. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
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Posted - 2013.09.01 21:37:00 -
[60] - Quote
Rekon X wrote:mynnna wrote:So that's a thread. :popcorn:
Anyway, as someone in charge of this, I'd like to pop in and say one minor bit.
If you're interested in the program but are (very reasonably, I must admit) concerned that it is a scam, contact a diplomat first. They can be found in the Goonswarm Federation alliance description. The nature of their position means they're forbidden from scamming, as shockingly enough, diplomacy is a Hard Thing To DoGäó if no one trusts you. Just a few weeks prior to this starting up, they'd have told you "Goonswarm does not rent space"; now they'll refer you to one of us.
If the word of one of the diplomats isn't enough then, well, I guess you can wait a few months and let others test the waters. Over a dozen corporations are already doing so. Oh yea, especially when their alliance promotes scamming and is built around and on scamming. Oh, but you are a goon. Using that CSM tag to promote this? And your tagline "Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal" == scamming
Our alliance is built on a lot of hard work, and a dependability and trustworthiness that our allies can count on.
The presence of the CSM tag is incidental. This is alliance business, and this is my primary alliance character upon which I conduct alliance business.
And the GEWC is a fancy name for our finance directorate, of which I am a part.
Sorry to disappoint, though. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:15:00 -
[61] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Rekon X wrote:
Oh yea, especially when their alliance promotes scamming and is built around and on scamming.
Oh, but you are a goon. Using that CSM tag to promote this?
And your tagline "Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal" == scamming
Our alliance is built on a lot of hard work, and a dependability and trustworthiness that our allies can count on. The presence of the CSM tag is incidental. This is alliance business, and this is my primary alliance character upon which I conduct alliance business. And the GEWC is a fancy name for our finance directorate, of which I am a part. Sorry to disappoint, though.
Yea, propaganda works on the weak minded. But in reality your hard work ... was scamming bob.
And your title screems "what's the next big goon scam". Oh, here it is. |
Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:22:00 -
[62] - Quote
Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for? As you might imagine given the long-term anti-rental stance of CONDI and other alliances within the CFC, we had to make it clear that our renters wouldn't be considered part of the CFC.
Of course, the single biggest requirement of being in the CFC isn't very appealing to the sort of players who want to rent: having the right ships on the right line at the right time. If you're in the CFC...
- You'll be expected to deploy halfway across the universe on an hour's notice.
- Most of your action will be in giant "blob" fleets of a full 255 pilots.
- You'll be required to be on jabber and voice comms pretty much all your waking hours.
Most people who aren't really into the PvP side of Eve don't want those things, and we don't blame you; we're offering a way to reap the benefits of our bloodthirsty sociopathy for a modest amount per month--the amount of time you spend plinking at rocks and snowballs almost anywhere else would be far more efficiently spent up here. Why, I was talking with someone just today who was pulling in nearly three-quarters of a billion ISK in ice per hour, in a system comparable to ones we have on offer.
I should probably mention that one can get a new character into a Retriever and making money ice mining within a week, by the way. I'm doing it myself, although I have to pause more often than I'd like to support the war effort.
Where was I? Ah, yes. The professions of renters aren't usually ones you find a lot of in sov null. Pay us, do the stuff you like and we don't, and we all get richer!
However, due to the resistance we're getting about all this on the home front, we adopted the long-standing term "Pubbie"--which means "people who aren't in our group"--to the ticker of the alliance. Sure it gets used as a pejorative, but from the standpoint of any group you are a part of, everyone not in it is a pubbie.
But we wanted to make sure everyone knew you were our pubbies, so "publords", or "lords of pubbies".
How does that suit you? |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:32:00 -
[63] - Quote
Clewara wrote: But we wanted to make sure everyone knew you were our pubbies, so "publords", or "lords of pubbies".
How does that suit you?
Scamlord would be more suitable. I'll go with that. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
|
Posted - 2013.09.01 22:43:00 -
[64] - Quote
It's of little consequence anyway, seeing as NPC corps are not eligible to rent. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:19:00 -
[65] - Quote
Immaterial what random idiots think about the program anyway. The program is for people who realize the wisdom (renting systems from a politically and militarily stable coalition with some of the best quality space) in the deal and are happy to sign up. These are the smart people who can see through the shitposts to what this is, a good business deal resulting in both sides getting what they want. |
Lambert Simnel
PWLS Enterprises
20
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:30:00 -
[66] - Quote
Just out of interest I was wondering why you placed the prohibition on CSAAs for renters. I notice other groups allow them. I assume it is due to some strategic purpose?
By the way I think everyone needs to settle down and accept that Goons now rent and that at the first sniff of a scam all that potential space income they are currently losing to their competitors disappears. And no, not a Goon alt. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
|
Posted - 2013.09.02 00:38:00 -
[67] - Quote
Lambert Simnel wrote:Just out of interest I was wondering why you placed the prohibition on CSAAs for renters. I notice other groups allow them. I assume it is due to some strategic purpose?
By the way I think everyone needs to settle down and accept that Goons now rent and that at the first sniff of a scam all that potential space income they are currently losing to their competitors disappears. And no, not a Goon alt.
"Strategic purpose" is right on - the extra fee it would incur might be nice but we don't want our space being used to shelter supercap construction that then gets sold to potential foes. It's an extension of our internal policy ("Don't sell them on the open market") and internal capacity is generally enough to meet internal demand, so while renter-builders would be bound by the same rule, they'd find themselves without much of a market. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.02 00:59:00 -
[68] - Quote
Lambert Simnel wrote:Just out of interest I was wondering why you placed the prohibition on CSAAs for renters. I notice other groups allow them. I assume it is due to some strategic purpose?
By the way I think everyone needs to settle down and accept that Goons now rent and that at the first sniff of a scam all that potential space income they are currently losing to their competitors disappears. And no, not a Goon alt.
Precisely, it's all about isk and renting is going to earn more than scamming ever could.
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Nex Killer
Drunk3n Warfare
44
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Posted - 2013.09.02 05:06:00 -
[69] - Quote
I do have a question. If a renter would like to build a station would their renting fee go up 1B a month because of it? I don't plan on renting just curious. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
56
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:56:00 -
[70] - Quote
Clewara wrote:Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for? As you might imagine given the long-term anti-rental stance of CONDI and other alliances within the CFC, we had to make it clear that our renters wouldn't be considered part of the CFC. Of course, the single biggest requirement of being in the CFC isn't very appealing to the sort of players who want to rent: having the right ships on the right line at the right time. If you're in the CFC...
- You'll be expected to deploy halfway across the universe on an hour's notice.
- Most of your action will be in giant "blob" fleets of a full 255 pilots.
- You'll be required to be on jabber and voice comms pretty much all your waking hours.
Most people who aren't really into the PvP side of Eve don't want those things, and we don't blame you; we're offering a way to reap the benefits of our bloodthirsty sociopathy for a modest amount per month--the amount of time you spend plinking at rocks and snowballs almost anywhere else would be far more efficiently spent up here. Why, I was talking with someone just today who was pulling in nearly three-quarters of a billion ISK in ice per hour, in a system comparable to ones we have on offer. I should probably mention that one can get a new character into a Retriever and making money ice mining within a week, by the way. I'm doing it myself, although I have to pause more often than I'd like to support the war effort. Where was I? Ah, yes. The professions of renters aren't usually ones you find a lot of in sov null. Pay us, do the stuff you like and we don't, and we all get richer! However, due to the resistance we're getting about all this on the home front, we adopted the long-standing term "Pubbie"--which means "people who aren't in our group"--to the ticker of the alliance. Sure it gets used as a pejorative, but from the standpoint of any group you are a part of, everyone not in it is a pubbie. But we wanted to make sure everyone knew you were our pubbies, so "publords", or "lords of pubbies". How does that suit you?
Wow it looks very tricky trying to sell this to two different audiences at once. First the internal audiance that have had one of their income streams banned (rental scams) and who had been brought up on promises that renting has bad BOB like behaviour and that Goons would never do it. To appease these people we have the http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Sum_Dum_Fuhks and the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere which is about imperial Japan farming the people of Asia. Basically doing everything possible to denigrate the new customers to appease the internal ire. Then here we have the sweetness and light. What can we do to help. Yes Mr Customer Sir ofc we are going to make it easy and profitable for you. Just let us know what you need and we will come running to install your new kitchen units. Anyone taking bets as to how many "goon alts killing renters" threads are going to be appearing on GD as a result of this tension. /popcorn |
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arabella blood
I Swear She Looked 18
120
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Posted - 2013.09.02 09:38:00 -
[71] - Quote
I am actually glad because this renting program is one of the first steps towards your doom... I just hope this post will remain till i could say "told you so nabs" :D |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
|
Posted - 2013.09.02 14:17:00 -
[72] - Quote
Nex Killer wrote:I do have a question. If a renter would like to build a station would their renting fee go up 1B a month because of it? I don't plan on renting just curious.
The idea of putting up a station that you wouldn't control in space you don't own seems really, really strange to me.
That said, it's actually come up before, and we decided that we'd be open to negotiating some kind of arrangement involving a discount on rent. We would, however, retain final say on whether the type of station desired was acceptable or not. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.02 14:33:00 -
[73] - Quote
http://evenews24.com/2013/08/21/fiddlers-edge-carebear-empires/
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2013.09.02 15:10:00 -
[74] - Quote
You are a seriously crazy idiot. |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.02 15:51:00 -
[75] - Quote
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:You are a seriously crazy idiot.
Yea, all those pubbies you hate, come rent from the goons. |
Dave Stark
3503
|
Posted - 2013.09.02 17:42:00 -
[76] - Quote
Rekon X wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:You are a seriously crazy idiot. Yea, all those pubbies you hate, come rent from the goons.
there's a universe full of "pubbies to hate" do you really think they're more or less likely to shoot the ones giving them billions of isk per month?
no, don't reply.
think about it, and think about it a bit more. c'mon, you can do it champ, you can see where you've been going wrong for the last 4 pages. |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.02 17:48:00 -
[77] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Rekon X wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:You are a seriously crazy idiot. Yea, all those pubbies you hate, come rent from the goons. there's a universe full of "pubbies to hate" do you really think they're more or less likely to shoot the ones giving them billions of isk per month? no, don't reply. think about it, and think about it a bit more. c'mon, you can do it champ, you can see where you've been going wrong for the last 4 pages.
Stupid would be to rent from the. But you go ahead. I'll laugh. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.02 19:33:00 -
[78] - Quote
Check out our new Renting Quick Reference Guide! |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
12
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Posted - 2013.09.02 19:45:00 -
[79] - Quote
Even if this isn't a scam you guys need to rework your terms, or the price. Compared to all your competitors this is crazy. Renting is usually equated with slavery all over this forum, but in this case considering your terms it actually is slavery. Who the hell are these people that are taking this deal? |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2781
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
I have removed some personal attacks from this thread. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.03 15:58:00 -
[81] - Quote
Great news! We are now up to 16 renting partners!
Don't miss out on the opportunity to "own" a piece of 0.0 space!
~Check out this infographic~ |
Sieg oder Valhalla
The Advent of Faith
19
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:34:00 -
[82] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
CFC will not protect your space from roaming gangs or campers. We will, however, fully protect the PBLRD Sov.
A lot of these "roaming gangs or campers" will be Goons flying alts in the neutral corps that have already been setup for this very purpose. You'll be scouted by "blues" and then killed by their alts. You have been warned.
Shaun Iwaira wrote:Lair Osen wrote:PBLRD stands for?
PBLRD stands for Pub Lord, another name for Pubbies, aka Carebears. I'll use it in a sentence. "Goonswarm have detested pubbies since the beginning of time, and now they're quietly laughing to themselves as they rent out space to those poor, naive carebears"
And it gets better, not only are the renting terms worse than what you can get from PL or NC. from an organization with a proven record of scamming and general scorn for "pubbies", but you have to wear that insult as your ticker, lol. I find it very sad that anyone would seriously consider this offer. |
Ewan Asif Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Sieg oder Valhalla wrote:not only are the renting terms worse than what you can get from PL or NC. from an organization with a proven record of scamming and general scorn for "pubbies", but you have to wear that insult as your ticker. Whereas the PL rental alliance is called BOT, because they unironically acknowledge that most of their customers are running bots and think its funny that CCP engineered the game to make BOT income indispensable. At least with the new rental organizations out of game rents are not fundamental to their core business as it was for -A- and Solar Fleet and is still for XIX. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:20:00 -
[84] - Quote
We're up to 18 renting partners! Don't miss out on this opportunity to take advantage of cheap 0.0 space!
Remember: -0% refinery taxes - you can refine at nearby PBLRD stations even if your system doesn't have one! -Set up your own POCOs (0% or charge a nominal percent to help pay for rent!) -No required ratting tax! Set up your own tax rates and manage your members as you'd like! -Exclusive access to production/research lines in the station in your rented system! -Sov bonus on POS towers! Save 25% on fuel costs! -Easy access to Jita via PBLRD space! |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
202
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:34:00 -
[85] - Quote
Removed some off topic posts. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:26:00 -
[86] - Quote
We're up to 21 renting partners!
There are still systems available, including systems with Pristine White Glaze- next door to a refinery!
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.09.06 16:42:00 -
[87] - Quote
We're up to 23 corporations! 23 systems rented so far- don't miss your chance to partake in a new 0.0 adventure! |
Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.09.07 19:28:00 -
[88] - Quote
We are still looking for renters contact one of us for more details |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.09.09 16:30:00 -
[89] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:Update: 09/09/13
CHRIBBA SECURED We are now offering the option to secure your first month's rent through Chribba! This is an option and is by no means necessary. See this post for rules and the process of renting with Chribba. You must rent with one of the 4 people listed above in order to utilize Chribba.
We have partnered with Chribba in order to provide an option to secure your transaction with the CFC. He will post shortly in order to confirm his participation in this program.
Here are the rules: -Renter is responsible for Chribba's fee, and is charged in addition to the rent of the system. The fee is 100 million ISK per system. -The length of the secured term is 15 days per system -Utilizing Chribba's services are optional, but available for any system -Absolutely zero system rental scams are allowed by the CFC, and Chribba will cease services and abscond our held ISK if such a scam occurs. We recommend always working with the Rental Management Team for your system rental needs. -Any claims against either side will be evaluated by Chribba and will be discussed by both parties. Sufficient proof (API verified killmails, Corp API data, Screen Shots) are absolutely required in the event of any claim by either party. -Subsequent months' rent is due in full on the first day of the month (and cannot be secured via this program at this time).
Here is the process: 1) You must work with one of the four rental managers listed in the OP in order to utilize Chribba's services renting from the CFC. 2) Upon agreement of the terms with one of the rental managers, you will transfer the ISK to Chribba to hold rather than directly to the [PBLRD] Exec Corp. 3) Chribba holds the ISK for 15 days from the beginning of the term. If the 15 days falls into the following month, the renter is STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NEXT MONTH'S RENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH. 4) At the end of the 15 day term, Chribba will verify that the corporation is still a member of [PBLRD] and that they have assets in (or nearby) their rented system. If everything is in good order, Chribba will forward the rent to the [PBLRD] exec corp.
If you have questions regarding this process, please contact me directly.
We are committed to providing this reliable renting service to the general public, and are taking every step possible to secure these transactions for our renting partners and for the CFC.
Also- side note- we are up to 25 renting corporations with nearly 600 characters in the alliance. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9335
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:00:00 -
[90] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:Update: 09/09/13
CHRIBBA SECURED We are now offering the option to secure your first month's rent through Chribba! This is an option and is by no means necessary. See this post for rules and the process of renting with Chribba. You must rent with one of the 4 people listed above in order to utilize Chribba.
We have partnered with Chribba in order to provide an option to secure your transaction with the CFC. He will post shortly in order to confirm his participation in this program. Here are the rules: -Renter is responsible for Chribba's fee, and is charged in addition to the rent of the system. The fee is 100 million ISK per system. -The length of the secured term is 15 days per system -Utilizing Chribba's services are optional, but available for any system -Absolutely zero system rental scams are allowed by the CFC, and Chribba will cease services and abscond our held ISK if such a scam occurs. We recommend always working with the Rental Management Team for your system rental needs. -Any claims against either side will be evaluated by Chribba and will be discussed by both parties. Sufficient proof (API verified killmails, Corp API data, Screen Shots) are absolutely required in the event of any claim by either party. -Subsequent months' rent is due in full on the first day of the month (and cannot be secured via this program at this time). Here is the process: 1) You must work with one of the four rental managers listed in the OP in order to utilize Chribba's services renting from the CFC. 2) Upon agreement of the terms with one of the rental managers, you will transfer the ISK to Chribba to hold rather than directly to the [PBLRD] Exec Corp. 3) Chribba holds the ISK for 15 days from the beginning of the term. If the 15 days falls into the following month, the renter is STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NEXT MONTH'S RENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH. 4) At the end of the 15 day term, Chribba will verify that the corporation is still a member of [PBLRD] and that they have assets in (or nearby) their rented system. If everything is in good order, Chribba will forward the rent to the [PBLRD] exec corp. If you have questions regarding this process, please contact me directly. We are committed to providing this reliable renting service to the general public, and are taking every step possible to secure these transactions for our renting partners and for the CFC. Also- side note- we are up to 25 renting corporations with nearly 600 characters in the alliance. Confirming that I've been in talks regarding assisting in securing rental ventures like this.
/c
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1419
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:23:00 -
[91] - Quote
you've gotta give it to goons, they know how to press some juice out of hisec....
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Thunder Kiss65
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:36:00 -
[92] - Quote
wanna keep goons around...go ahead and rent..Wanna get scamed, again rent from goons.....If your a moron rent from goons..Wanna see them dry up like a pile of dog crap that they r Stay away from this |
arabella blood
I Swear She Looked 18
128
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:36:00 -
[93] - Quote
Daniel Plain wrote:you've gotta give it to goons, they know how to press some Jews out of hisec....
I fixed it for you Troll for hire. Cheap prices. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
314
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Posted - 2013.09.09 18:52:00 -
[94] - Quote
Chribba wrote: Confirming that I've been in talks regarding assisting in securing rental ventures like this.
/c
Please note that Mr Omni represents the interest in Goonwaffe in this matter, and this is fully TOS compliant.
- Kismeteer, Goonwaffe director. |
Tacha Valeria
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere Exec Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2013.09.09 18:54:00 -
[95] - Quote
Chribba wrote:[quote=Mr Omniblivion]Confirming that I've been in talks regarding assisting in securing rental ventures like this.
/c
Please note that Mr Omniblivion has been orchestrating sales for our rental properties.
-Tacha Valeria, Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere director |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
427
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:25:00 -
[96] - Quote
I have removed a discriminating post and edited out a personal attack. Please keep it civil and on topic people!
6. Racism and discrimination are prohibited.
Racism, gender stereotyping and hate speech are not permitted on the EVE Online Forums. Derogatory posting that includes race, religion or sexual preference based personal attacks and trolling can result in immediate suspension of forum posting privileges.
And I also fixed a quote. As in: made the quoted text look like, well, a quote.
ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8684
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:23:00 -
[97] - Quote
Enduros wrote:Even if this isn't a scam you guys need to rework your terms, or the price. Compared to all your competitors this is crazy. Renting is usually equated with slavery all over this forum, but in this case considering your terms it actually is slavery. Who the hell are these people that are taking this deal?
How so? These terms aren't unusual in nullsec renting. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
29
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Posted - 2013.09.10 03:15:00 -
[98] - Quote
Andski wrote:Enduros wrote:Even if this isn't a scam you guys need to rework your terms, or the price. Compared to all your competitors this is crazy. Renting is usually equated with slavery all over this forum, but in this case considering your terms it actually is slavery. Who the hell are these people that are taking this deal? How so? These terms aren't unusual in nullsec renting. These are just my 2 isk, but here goes:
The travel and roaming restrictions are too strict and I'm talking about just flying, not ratting in someone else's system, nobody wants that. And shot on sight unless screenshots are provided? It kind of reads like fine print where you willingly submit to ganking.
The quality of the system is reflected more by what security class it falls into, then the truesec difference inside said class. You are currently pricing many of the systems above their actual worth. Also your pricing only factors in the advantages of the system. You should also consider all the disadvantages. Such as being in the middle of a pipe or a terrible layout of the celestials etc.
Location of the region also can't possibly justify the prices either. You in hot-drop range of both PL and BL and half of forge (milage may vary). Everyone else that rents has at least some buffer. It just looks way too convenient to hot-drop into Vale. And no cyno jammers in this place? The vicinity of hi-sec makes this especially annoying because every elite pvp'er is gonna try and drop on top of people that probably don't quite comprehend the risks.
Ice access? The agreement doesn't mention it so I guess it's you either have it or you don't? Other landlords allow ice mining all over and charge a convenience fee if you have it in your system. Maybe it's just not listed, but for tower owners this is a concern.
I'm just saying the whole thing is too restrictive and for many systems the price is 2x of what would be reasonable. But you seem to have people signing up... fascinating. |
AstarothPrime
Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate
25
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Posted - 2013.09.10 09:05:00 -
[99] - Quote
Tubrug1 wrote:So much grrrgoon here. If this were a scam, they wouldn't have made a renting alliance, transferred 63 systems to it and rented out 10 of those systems. Yours sincerely, Non-CFC member
Yes. Not for profit. But for tha - "lolz therez idiotz who still trustz us"
I.
P.S.
I forsee a big big bloodbath after 2-3 mths when chriba releases all rent ISK and bears drag in expencive boats for the pewpew |
Leana McFarlane
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:40:00 -
[100] - Quote
I know you know......Goons will backstab you sooner or later. Let's face it .... Goons are kiddy douchebags. |
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Leana McFarlane
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:42:00 -
[101] - Quote
I know you know......Goons will backstab you sooner or later. Let's face it .... Goons are kiddy douchebags. |
Leana McFarlane
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:43:00 -
[102] - Quote
Echo....echo....echo |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
567
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:23:00 -
[103] - Quote
Not official in any sense of the word, ignore the fact that I'm a member of the CFC, but I would think the following:
Enduros wrote:The travel and roaming restrictions are too strict and I'm talking about just flying, not ratting in someone else's system, nobody wants that. And shot on sight unless screenshots are provided? It kind of reads like fine print where you willingly submit to ganking. Travelling through pipe systems is allowed, and all that should be needed for travel. Outside of that, why would you be there? Most alliances would question you being there, Goons just have to be clear about it, since the % of people that hate goons is considerably higher (for some reason).
Enduros wrote:The quality of the system is reflected more by what security class it falls into, then the truesec difference inside said class. You are currently pricing many of the systems above their actual worth. Also your pricing only factors in the advantages of the system. You should also consider all the disadvantages. Such as being in the middle of a pipe or a terrible layout of the celestials etc. What matters to one group doesn't to another. The raw numbers are truesec, and whether or not it's a deadend. Pipe locality, celestial arrangement, this is all stuff you would have to decide on what you want before renting any given system, but not something that can be readily judged in advance. Do other alliances charge less for "bad celestial arrangements"?
Enduros wrote:Location of the region also can't possibly justify the prices either. You in hot-drop range of both PL and BL and half of forge (milage may vary). Everyone else that rents has at least some buffer. It just looks way too convenient to hot-drop into Vale. And no cyno jammers in this place? The vicinity of hi-sec makes this especially annoying because every elite pvp'er is gonna try and drop on top of people that probably don't quite comprehend the risks. Practically anywhere can be hotdropped. A buffer of goons won;t stop that. Besides, chances are if it's hotdrop o'clock, you won't be the target.
Enduros wrote:Ice access? The agreement doesn't mention it so I guess it's you either have it or you don't? Other landlords allow ice mining all over and charge a convenience fee if you have it in your system. Maybe it's just not listed, but for tower owners this is a concern. The original post states you get anom exclusivity, and pay extra for an ice belt. This would lead me to believe that if you don't have an ice belt you are **** out of luck. You could probably do a deal with a neighbor to pay them for access however, that would be up to you discuss between yourselves though. Think about how the new ice belts work however. They are no longer virtually infinite, and can be mined out in a pretty short time. It's unlikely the whole sharing ice thing will work out in the long run.
Enduros wrote:I'm just saying the whole thing is too restrictive and for many systems the price is 2x of what would be reasonable. But you seem to have people signing up... fascinating. As far as I can see, prices are about on par. The only restrictions are 1. You don't get what you don't pay for and 2. Don't mess around outside your space. Seems pretty fair to me. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:54:00 -
[104] - Quote
To put some points into perspective:
- There are currently 26 renting corporations with over 600 renters in PBLRD space. - There has not yet been one report of blue on blue incidents with any of our renters. I also checked eve-kill and didn't find any kills on PBLRD by CFC. - A few of the renting corporations are actually owned by CFC members (and they don't get a discount on rent). Why? Exclusivity. - A "small" 0.0 ice belt (in sub -.5 space) is worth approximately 1.45 billion isk before transport costs. A large (>-.5) is worth just over 2 billion isk. I personally cycle small ice belts in just over 2 hours. We would be crazy to charge anything less than 1 bil for exclusive ice access; in fact, we should probably charge more. - Having access to Sov space saves over 100 million ISK in fuel per month per large tower. If you run any POS, why not put them up in "cheap" 0.0 space where you can reap the full benefits of fuel savings that can pay for the system and more? - We encourage renters to build local markets and collaborate together- it's not a "hostile blue" environment where renters and the CFC are just looking to kill each other. There are plenty of things to shoot rather than each other. - There are designated pipe systems through both PBLRD and CFC space that renters are free to travel through. It's most definitely not "Shoot on Sight" unless the offender is in an AWOXing ship warping to other players. If they're in a Tengu and doing escalations in CFC space? No one would bother them. If they're seen flying a dictor/hictor/recon in CFC space? They will be watched. If they warp to someone at an anomaly in said ship? They're going to get killed.
We are taking all possible steps to ensure that our renters stay happy in their systems, because it is to the benefit of the CFC and to the renters to keep the systems happily rented. We have even gone as far as to offer Chribba's services in association with this offering- holding the rent up for weeks at a time- just to show that this is a serious and meaningful program to the CFC. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
328
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:19:00 -
[105] - Quote
Leana McFarlane wrote:I know you know......Goons will backstab you sooner or later. Let's face it .... Goons are kiddy douchebags.
...unless you pay us, then we take your isk, and you have your good times in null sec. I particularly like the triple post you did as well, even if it will just get removed by ISD at some point. |
Fedaykin055
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
9
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:26:00 -
[106] - Quote
Bill Trent wrote:Zane Lowe wrote: Just a FYI, both PL and N3 allow you to build with CSAAs, and renting a system gives you full rights to the moons (except R64s).
N3 does not give you full rights to the moons. If they're towered (as any valuable one will be), you're SOL. You're also forced to sell whatever your CSAA produces to them. We do indeed allow the renters to build with CSAA's, the only rule regarding that is that we should be informed of the build and that the product will be offered to us first at market price, and if no buyer is found you can sell it on the market. |
Fedaykin055
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
9
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:29:00 -
[107] - Quote
Bill Trent wrote:Bill Trent wrote: I hope competition between PL and CFC will drive rental prices down even further, BTW. If you rent from either it's probably worth checking which moons you get exactly in your system. I see Goons only allow you to mine R8 and below, I thought PL had a better deal there but I have to re-check.
N3 further has some hidden costs - they will run signatures and mine in your space, unless you pay extra. You can do cap building but you have to sell them to N3. They don't even guarantee they will defend their sov (if you've been following politics, no wonder...). I like PLs deal best in terms of rules but it depends on the real costs of course - their pricing isn't public. No, there is exclusivity in any N3 renter system. No one except the renter that has the system is allowed to run anomalies or plexes. Same for minging, the only exception being ICE mining. Any renter can mine ice in N3 renter alliance space without paying anything, unless he wants to place a pos in that system, in which case they need to pay a one time fee of 250m. If a renter wants ice exclusivity in a system he can talk with us and we can arrange that for a fee.
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Gilles Navarien
Specter Syndicate Tactical Narcotics Team
29
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:45:00 -
[108] - Quote
Renting is big business and keeping the customers happy in business is #1, CFC renters will get a solid service to match the best rental schemes available of this I have no doubts. Plenty of good systems currently still available, join up before only the dregs are left. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
246
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:49:00 -
[109] - Quote
Enduros wrote:Andski wrote:Enduros wrote:Even if this isn't a scam you guys need to rework your terms, or the price. Compared to all your competitors this is crazy. Renting is usually equated with slavery all over this forum, but in this case considering your terms it actually is slavery. Who the hell are these people that are taking this deal? How so? These terms aren't unusual in nullsec renting. These are just my 2 isk, but here goes: The travel and roaming restrictions are too strict and I'm talking about just flying, not ratting in someone else's system, nobody wants that. And shot on sight unless screenshots are provided? It kind of reads like fine print where you willingly submit to ganking. The quality of the system is reflected more by what security class it falls into, then the truesec difference inside said class. You are currently pricing many of the systems above their actual worth. Also your pricing only factors in the advantages of the system. You should also consider all the disadvantages. Such as being in the middle of a pipe or a terrible layout of the celestials etc.
Living here, for corporate various circumstances I can see several systems that are currently free and eminently rentable at current prices. ie I don't think that is a problem right now, unless you are dumb customer who won't look at dotlan and at the sov maps. I would expect the poorer deals to get discounted as and when the good ones are all gone. They certainly aren't all gone yet.
Also roaming isn't really currently much of a problem. There are almost no CFC line members to be seen, they don't have a map of what pilot "belongs`" in which system, and the unrented systems are public knowledge (and there will be nobody there to complain about you). The pipe to highsec is at one end of pblrd space, the market hub is at the other, so its essentially expected that you'll be seen pretty much anywhere at any time except a dead end without an escalation or a desire to dock and purchase goods. My local dead end has fuel on the market from their station, and I'm sure they'll be happy to see my iteron arriving and it won't be the source of a blue on blue incident.
Right now I'm working my system up to military 1, after which there will be a few anoms that I simply wouldn't care if other people shot from time to time anyway, as they'll be respawned a few minutes after being done, and it will probably all happen when I'm asleep anyway.
if it all does fill up, then roaming is less necessary anyway, because more people working gurista space again, will cause the sigs and natural anoms to start cycling around quickluy anyway, so there will be more things spawning in the system you rent. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.09.12 20:38:00 -
[110] - Quote
26 renting corporations, with 2 more corps joining this weekend! Now is the time to rent! Take advantage of cheap prices and great space |
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Prince Sanguine
Norse'Storm Battle Group Circle-Of-Two
48
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Posted - 2013.09.12 23:22:00 -
[111] - Quote
Kismeteer wrote:Leana McFarlane wrote:I know you know......Goons will backstab you sooner or later. Let's face it .... Goons are kiddy douchebags. ...unless you pay us, then we take your isk, and you have your good times in null sec. I particularly like the triple post you did as well, even if it will just get removed by ISD at some point.
Exactly. Don't people understand its better to make isk long term rather than a short scam? There is just general hate for goons for no real reason. U w0t mate?! fight me IRL.! do you even lift?! |
Kitzia
Exa Tech Zaibatsu Mercantile
0
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:08:00 -
[112] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
- Having access to Sov space saves over 100 million ISK in fuel per month per large tower. If you run any POS, why not put them up in "cheap" 0.0 space where you can reap the full benefits of fuel savings that can pay for the system and more?
Why would anyone put more than a large tower in a system? this 'savings' are anything but significant. |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
30
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:39:00 -
[113] - Quote
Kitzia wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:
- Having access to Sov space saves over 100 million ISK in fuel per month per large tower. If you run any POS, why not put them up in "cheap" 0.0 space where you can reap the full benefits of fuel savings that can pay for the system and more?
Why would anyone put more than a large tower in a system? this 'savings' are anything but significant. If you want to run reactions it's very significant. |
Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.09.13 06:09:00 -
[114] - Quote
Kitzia wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:
- Having access to Sov space saves over 100 million ISK in fuel per month per large tower. If you run any POS, why not put them up in "cheap" 0.0 space where you can reap the full benefits of fuel savings that can pay for the system and more?
Why would anyone put more than a large tower in a system? this 'savings' are anything but significant. You save 25% on fuel. That means on a large tower you can save almost 100mil per month and if you run a reaction you can cover the cost of the rent in savings |
Glauren Hellboy
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.13 11:41:00 -
[115] - Quote
Do you foresee new systems (regions) opening up in the near future? Possibly non-caldari space? |
raz1980
Duty. The Cursed Few
25
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Posted - 2013.09.13 14:56:00 -
[116] - Quote
Number one rule in eve... never trust a goon |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.09.13 15:59:00 -
[117] - Quote
Glauren Hellboy wrote:Do you foresee new systems (regions) opening up in the near future? Possibly non-caldari space?
(8:58:21 AM) mr_omniblivion: 8ball will we open up more regions in the rental program? (8:58:25 AM) Six_TwentyFour: mr_omniblivion: Without a doubt
There's your answer! |
Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
23
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Posted - 2013.09.13 17:50:00 -
[118] - Quote
HI,
I have rented a system last 2 months... all went fine untill this month. I made payment and got kicked from space!
DO NOT TRUST THESE PEOPLE THAY WILL SCAM YOU!!! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.09.13 18:08:00 -
[119] - Quote
Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:HI,
I have rented a system last 2 months... all went fine untill this month. I made payment and got kicked from space!
DO NOT TRUST THESE PEOPLE THAY WILL SCAM YOU!!!
I normally don't comment on obvious troll attempts, but...
I'm afraid I'm going to have to report your post for impersonating being a renter of [PBLRD] when your alliance history clearly shows that you have never rented from us.
Thank you CCP for this new addition to the TOS. |
arabella blood
I Swear She Looked 18
150
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:31:00 -
[120] - Quote
Mr Omniblivion wrote:Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:HI,
I have rented a system last 2 months... all went fine untill this month. I made payment and got kicked from space!
DO NOT TRUST THESE PEOPLE THAY WILL SCAM YOU!!! I normally don't comment on obvious troll attempts, but... I'm afraid I'm going to have to report your post for impersonating being a renter of [PBLRD] when your alliance history clearly shows that you have never rented from us. Thank you CCP for this new addition to the TOS.
Please keep us updated :)
Troll for hire. Cheap prices. |
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Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:54:00 -
[121] - Quote
People really don't want to believe the CFC isn't actually lying to them, I'm enjoying this thread immensely. |
Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.09.14 15:15:00 -
[122] - Quote
We are now up to 29 renters and still have many more great systems available.
Contact anyone of us to answer your questions |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1811
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Posted - 2013.09.14 17:40:00 -
[123] - Quote
Balthusdire Dominus wrote:People really don't want to believe the CFC isn't actually lying to them, I'm enjoying this thread immensely.
Well, that kind fellow genuinely is trolling, as should be rather obviously demonstrated by the fact that this program hasn't even existed for two months.
He may be a bit bitter that miniluv blew up his freighter a few months ago. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.15 01:44:00 -
[124] - Quote
Quote:Well, that kind fellow genuinely is trolling, as should be rather obviously demonstrated by the fact that this program hasn't even existed for two months. He may be a bit bitter that miniluv blew up his freighter a few months ago.
It's always someone who has been scammed, ganked, or some such. Wouldn't be EVE if people didn't hold grudges. |
raz1980
Duty. The Cursed Few
25
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Posted - 2013.09.15 06:24:00 -
[125] - Quote
Rule number 2... never trust a goon |
Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.15 06:42:00 -
[126] - Quote
Rule number one, never trust a random pubbie. |
Ferroneptunium
Drum of war Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:56:00 -
[127] - Quote
Great renting program, directors are reliable and friendly. 100% legit Haters gonna hate |
raz1980
Duty. The Cursed Few
25
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Posted - 2013.09.15 16:44:00 -
[128] - Quote
Ferroneptunium wrote:Great renting program, directors are reliable and friendly. 100% legit Haters gonna hate
I don't hate goons.. dam it who am I trying to kid, your right haters gonna hate 100% legit |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.09.15 23:24:00 -
[129] - Quote
More corps moving in every week!
28 renting corporations with over 740 members in the alliance! |
Balthusdire Dominus
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.09.16 18:01:00 -
[130] - Quote
raz1980 wrote:I don't hate goons.. dam it who am I trying to kid, your right haters gonna hate 100% legit
Well, at least you are honest.
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Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:16:00 -
[131] - Quote
We are now up to 30 renting corporations with many great systems still available
Contact us if you have any question or would like to rent a system. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2822
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:53:00 -
[132] - Quote
I have removed a troll post from this thread. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:11:00 -
[133] - Quote
Hey there, folks!
It looks like we're up to thirty-five rental corporations, and a little bee tells me that we may be about to release some nw systems that will be of particular interest to people who may be bored of Nitrogen Isotopes and Guristas Pirates.
Make sure to reach out to the whole team if you're interested in renting from us--that way if any of us are out of town or so, another of us can answer your questions and see you settled in your new nullsec home! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4588
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Posted - 2013.09.21 02:58:00 -
[134] - Quote
Good stuff, more systems = more opportunities.
If you're thinking of trying out nullsec profit-making, why not chat with some of us (remember, only authorized rental program representatives can finalize any deals) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2308
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Posted - 2013.09.25 17:43:00 -
[135] - Quote
Clewara wrote:Hey there, folks!
It looks like we're up to thirty-five rental corporations, and a little bee tells me that we may be about to release some nw systems that will be of particular interest to people who may be bored of Nitrogen Isotopes and Guristas Pirates. Is it Poitot?
It's Poitot, isn't it. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Clewara
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2013.10.08 12:16:00 -
[136] - Quote
Hey, folks! After our first full month in business we have dozens of satisfied renters ratting, mining, and building in our systems, to say nothing of the folks who sublet or use their system as a hunting lodge. Join us today! |
GordonO
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:52:00 -
[137] - Quote
I am keen to give this a try. If any small corp or solo players want to try this but lack resources, jump ships, etc give me a shout. I don't want to do this solo. . |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1514
|
Posted - 2013.10.14 01:10:00 -
[138] - Quote
I personally can't wait to hear about the Goonies back-stabbing their pets who refuse CTAs in this venture... Keeping my eyes peeled! "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
GordonO
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
11
|
Posted - 2013.10.14 01:17:00 -
[139] - Quote
Ginger Barbarella wrote:I personally can't wait to hear about the Goonies back-stabbing their pets who refuse CTAs in this venture... Keeping my eyes peeled!
If you bothered to read they have stated that renters can't join their fleets.. sadly.. either way.. pew pew is good for the soul . |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
275
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:30:00 -
[140] - Quote
Ginger Barbarella wrote:I personally can't wait to hear about the Goonies back-stabbing their pets who refuse CTAs in this venture... Keeping my eyes peeled!
There aren't renter CTAs. I brought a few interceptors out for me, and I'll bring in some warp in hammers next, which I expect I'll occasionally have to replace through general use, and so I'd imagine if the space is seriously invaded, I'll burn the lot up in renter defence fleets, but we'll never be in a CFC fleet, and at best we'd be given an objective with no CFC intel, and all the pressure to join will come from other renters, who have absolutely no ability to kick people out that don't contribute or are obviously evaccing assets.
I'll personally be happy with myself in the event of an invasion if at the end of it, I've burned all my pvp ships (or the invasion fails before I run out, whatever comes first). |
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Gilles Navarien
Specter Syndicate Tactical Narcotics Team
29
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:32:00 -
[141] - Quote
I think the term renter and pet is being mistaken for being the same thing.
"Pet" is generally used as a method to degrade the smaller alliances that form around the core alliance of a coalition, i.e. in the CFC the core would be Goonswarm and the "Pets" would be pretty much the rest of us, TNT, SMA, FCON etc etc. If these "pets" do not show up when the CFC is threatened without a good excuse then rightly so questions will be raised and perhaps they will be "back-stabbed" for being useless allies.
Renters on the other hand have only a contractual binding to the coalition, in that they pay isk for the use of the sovereignty that they rent and as long as they maintain their part of the bargain it would be finically destructive to do anything other than treat them as well as possible.
In renting, reputation is everything and since the CFC already started with a somewhat bad reputation in the view of the general public due to occasional ventures into high sec to murder innocents we are playing catch up. I can totally understand people letting others go first, but I think the current customer retain rate shows that there is nothing shady or dangerous about the CFC rental scheme, beyond the normal venture into 0,0.
As a PBLRD Customer Liaison feel free to contact me for more information via convo or mail in game, generally available in the EU/US TZs.
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The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
135
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:24:00 -
[142] - Quote
TEST ALLIANCE ENDORSEMENT
GOOD SERVICE
RENT VALE TODAY!
MINE IN PEACE!
RAT AFK!
SUCH SECURITY! |
Draydin Warsong
State Protectorate Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:15:00 -
[143] - Quote
I have no intention of renting but I am curious...say a renter had a JF full of Isotopes rolling through HS to sell at a hub, would they be safe from Miniluv (or any future goon "screw highsec" antics for that matter)?
Free Bump |
Enduros
Ostian Industries Hand of Despair
62
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:39:00 -
[144] - Quote
Draydin Warsong wrote:I have no intention of renting but I am curious...say a renter had a JF full of Isotopes rolling through HS to sell at a hub, would they be safe from Miniluv (or any future goon "screw highsec" antics for that matter)?
Free Bump Not very safe, the are probably permanently war-decked just like any other null alliance. Most people use either a freight service or out-of-alliance alts to do the hi-sec hauling. |
Valirous Holt
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:35:00 -
[145] - Quote
BE VERY VERY CAREFULL .............
As an Ex Renter I can now share my experience and also the other corps who are still renting or have left.
On the surface the renting from the Goons was a pleasant experience, the leadership was good and helpful.
However .................... like most things they fail to play it straight and fair.
You will pay for upgrades and they are happy to install but once 9/10 and 10/10 Anomalies start to appear in the area suddenly there are 3-4 man ex-goons corps doing the sites which have full docking rights to all the goon stations.
So unlike neutrals who you have a chance to catch they sit in station looking for the juicy targets.
It would be a perfect renting service if any they played it straight. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
311
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:41:00 -
[146] - Quote
Valirous Holt wrote:
You will pay for upgrades and they are happy to install but once 9/10 and 10/10 Anomalies start to appear in the area suddenly there are 3-4 man ex-goons corps doing the sites which have full docking rights to all the goon stations.
I've had 1 cfc drop probes and then leave, and a couple of renters take content, which stopped after I told them that I rented my system. Obviously the more people in a renter corp the more likely one is to not know the rules.
I can see on dotlan if other people have been shooting stuff in my system, and I've had a total of 2 mazes spawn out of 18 total deds that have spawned. I've had 12 unrateds, of which 2 have been the staging post.
ie I find it kinda difficult to believe that people sat around your system waiting for a maze to spawn, the spawns are literally 3 weeks apart. |
V1P3RR
Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:52:00 -
[147] - Quote
bumping works in this thread? |
Fubar CLanberg
This Space For Rent. Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1
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Posted - 2013.11.06 11:25:00 -
[148] - Quote
yes, it works, and it helps!
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Josephine Sauveterre
30plus Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 10:02:00 -
[149] - Quote
What is the status of pipe systems to Branch? The rules only seem to list one in Vale... unless of course I'm missing something obvious. |
Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Northern Associates.
26
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:36:00 -
[150] - Quote
Chinicata Shihari wrote:Kitzia wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:
- Having access to Sov space saves over 100 million ISK in fuel per month per large tower. If you run any POS, why not put them up in "cheap" 0.0 space where you can reap the full benefits of fuel savings that can pay for the system and more?
Why would anyone put more than a large tower in a system? this 'savings' are anything but significant. You save 25% on fuel. That means on a large tower you can save almost 100mil per month and if you run a reaction you can cover the cost of the rent in savings
While true... not the full story... getting fuel out to the towers costs money too (jump fuel) so some of that savings is eaten by having to jump fuel out. that said... if running a reaction chain, the savings are definitely a nice bonus... though unless you have dozens of towers up at Goon rental prices you aren't going to 'cover the cost of renting' in fuel savings... not by a long shot.
Not saying their prices are bad... they're ok... but saying it'll pay for itself is a bit disingenuous.... in a 2b/month system you'd have to have 25 towers up to 'cover your costs in savings'.
Renting isn't bad though. My guys and I rent primarily because most of us are burned out on SOV warfare and just want to be able to pvp when and where we want without worrying about sov block wars overmuch. We're happy to PVP when we wish but we all grew tired of 'deploy deploy deploy' all the time a while ago :) Honestly... I don't care who we rent from as long as the price is right and the terms are fair.
Who knows... we may become CFC renters someday... all empires in EVE eventually fall ;) I'm happy to welcome whatever landlord next comes our way.
I do hate their moon rules though. The fact that they reserve R32's is a bit off-putting but other than that it's no different than anywhere else.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.-á He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." |
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Plama145 Plamiasty
Klapki Mojzeszwe
0
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Posted - 2013.11.26 20:04:00 -
[151] - Quote
here's the official documentation R16
Rules in PBLRD Space These are a list of key rules- for a full list, check out the Official Rental Rules.
You can tower POS on any unclaimed moon in your system(s). R16-R64 moons are exclusive to the CFC. Cyno Jammers/CSAA are not allowed. Any other POS modules are allowed. No ratting/site access* to CFC or other PBLRD space, except for designated pipe systems. You are permitted to travel within PBLRD space to and from stations in order to dock up/log and trade on local markets. *Note: You are permitted to complete escalations in other systems. Rental corporations are responsible for AWOXers within their corporation CFC will not protect your space from roaming gangs or campers. We will, however, fully protect the PBLRD Sov. You are able to briefly travel to CFC/PBLRD systems to follow escalations- however, you will be shot on sight if you are in a non-escalation ship (or if you are loitering in a system without doing an escalation). Rent is charged on a prorated basis for the month you join, and is always due on the first day of the month for each subsequent month.
Ground Rules Deploying POS Moon usage rights are as follows: R32 and R64 moons will not be available and will be towered by CFC entities. You may mine R8 and R16 moons in your system if they are not towered by CFC entities. Any other moons may be towered as you see fit. Capital Ship Assembly Arrays and Cyno Jammers may not be deployed.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1csAFPQRTgOLFMfhofzw-ckqHcTl6jUQzlW4Lybaj-Jo/edit
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2144
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Posted - 2013.11.28 05:13:00 -
[152] - Quote
Augustianian wrote:I just want to confirm that PBLRD stands for PubLord, or Pubbie Lord, not unlike Shitlord, the term you often use to describe posters that you do not like.
In other words, every renter wears a derogatory term as their ticker.
Why? Because it is the only way you could sell it to goons.
Nice way to treat "partners"
You lost all your space shitlord. |
Stevez Ftw
Zahadu
0
|
Posted - 2013.11.30 16:47:00 -
[153] - Quote
Great place to rent if you want to be camped by guys in black ops:) or get caught on gate my cloaky proteus and get hot dropped by black ops. |
GordonO
22
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Posted - 2013.12.01 18:33:00 -
[154] - Quote
Stevez Ftw wrote:Great place to rent if you want to be camped by guys in black ops:) or get caught on gate my cloaky proteus and get hot dropped by black ops. And how is this different to any other inhabited null system ? . |
Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
334
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Posted - 2013.12.23 13:04:00 -
[155] - Quote
How does this rental program change now that EMP is invading? Will Sov still be defended? No blues. Kill everything.
In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe |
Renfro Anzomi
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:37:00 -
[156] - Quote
Speaking as a potential customer, . . . a "Pubbie", this is obviously a forward-looking business decision that was difficult to sell to the rank and file CFC membership. From the standpoint of the old board game "Risk", (or the Roman Empire) holding territory becomes more difficult the further out the conquest expands.
By using renters to hold and extract wealth from conquered territories, CFC may be in a position to defeat their enemies, claim all of null sec and eventually win the game of EVE. The wise "goon" will adapt, assimilate, and keep an eye on the prize.
I think I would rather be a part of the winning collective as a tennent, rather than a hunted enemy with no homeland.
All hail the Mittani !
Praise the Wisdom of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal !
May the collective prevail always and forever ! |
Pufferfish Lemoncurry
Shadow Runners. The Fire Nation Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2014.01.16 03:27:00 -
[157] - Quote
No matter what any of you say...yada yada yada
NEVER
trust
a goon.
Case dismissed. |
Aragorn Angelus
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.01.16 03:42:00 -
[158] - Quote
Agreed. |
dantes inferno
Pulsar Inc. Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:02:00 -
[159] - Quote
Pufferfish Lemoncurry wrote:No matter what any of you say...yada yada yada
NEVER
trust
a goon.
Case dismissed.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere
never never never ! |
Braccer
The Seed Holdings Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:35:00 -
[160] - Quote
Just to let you know there is a mistake in http://i.imgur.com/MflsVcX.jpg the price per -1.0 not -0.10
Do i get a discount? |
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GordonO
42
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:56:00 -
[161] - Quote
Pufferfish Lemoncurry wrote:No matter what any of you say...yada yada yada
NEVER
trust
a goon.
Case dismissed.
We have been renting for a while now and i must say the goons have been most helpful in all my dealings. Any one looking for a corp to join or want to bring your corp along to try the experience out, drop me a mail.. . |
Braccer
The Seed Holdings Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:40:00 -
[162] - Quote
Please check your mail, Request sent. |
Geddings
Geddings Exploration Co.
3
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Posted - 2014.05.01 02:10:00 -
[163] - Quote
be nice if any of the 4 representatives were actually online....... |
Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2014.05.01 05:54:00 -
[164] - Quote
Geddings wrote:be nice if any of the 4 representatives were actually online.......
If none of us are online send all of us a mail. I generally check the forums for mails quite often and i know others do aswell
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V1P3RR
Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.06.10 20:03:00 -
[165] - Quote
V1P3RR wrote:bumping works in this thread?
not empty posting |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.24 17:51:00 -
[166] - Quote
Apologies for being unavailable, was hit by the bus that is RL (and was suddenly out of the country for a few months).
That said, there are still plenty of systems to rent! Hop on the train before it's too late!
Check this deal out- http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/JP4-AA - 3.00 Bil/Mo
It has an ice belt and a station. Have you seen isotope prices lately? |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:49:00 -
[167] - Quote
Do you like ice?
Good, because we here in the CFC hate ice; so we're renting away tons of prime systems with ice belts! Check out those Isotope Prices!
Does your corp own multiple fleets of ice miners? Well, these Prime Systems are for you: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/39P-1J - Ice belt and a minmatar refining station http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/7G-QIG - Ice belt next door to minmatar station (and -.69 truesec!) http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/5-6QW7 - Ice belt, Conquerable Refinery, PBLRD Sov for sweet, sweet, POS fuel savings
Are you a small corporation or individual that wants to get your foot in the door into 0.0? These Starter Systems would better fit your needs: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/D-W7F0 - Ice Belt, 2 Jumps from Refinery, 2b/mo http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/JP4-AA - Ice Belt, Amarr Production Factory, 3b/mo
"Ice, Ice Baby" -Vanilla Ice |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6281
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:29:00 -
[168] - Quote
Remember, in nullsec you can use a rorqural, which can now -easily- compress tons of ice, for easy delivery to the refinery. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.26 20:59:00 -
[169] - Quote
As a reminder- rental managers are not recruiters, please do not contact us about recruitment into GoonWaffe.
Please do contact us if you're interested in renting some of those delicious Ice systems!
(isotope prices keep going up!) |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:54:00 -
[170] - Quote
Several more systems now rented! Hop on this train before it leaves the station! |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:48:00 -
[171] - Quote
Systems still available for rent! Including systems with ice belts AND a station!
Quick note: When applying to be a part of the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere, you must join as a corporation (even if you're an individual). We do require an active full API at all times during your membership. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:02:00 -
[172] - Quote
Systems still available!
The rental team is open for any questions you have about renting a system. |
Sremica
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:54:00 -
[173] - Quote
I rented system (payed 1b. in cash and must pay 2b. later when i colect ,thats is That's the deal with you)JZV-F4 for invidual with my alts, i have my own corp alts with 3 man, so now i must be part of Greater Western Corporatin,
I asked what i need to do to come in this sytem and rent, u guys told me must join in goons, and i send 4x aply and all 4x u guys rejected and blocked me on chat and mail?i need to know why? U guys tell me to go there and mine/rating, i told ok np just need me to be green or blue for ppl what is in this system... I dont care to join in Goonswaffe i only care about rent system what i payed for...
i wayt u for invite me to ally or corp wtv, if u guys dont want me in corp or ally, pls give me back money what i spend for RENT |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.30 16:35:00 -
[174] - Quote
More systems available for rent!
Note: This thread is for rental only- please do not discuss Goonswarm "Recruitment" Practices here. I'm not sure how you got JZV in mind because it clearly is not available, and the rent for JZV is not 1bil/mo. If you're interested in joining the corporation that is renting that system, you need to contact them directly. |
Sremica
IROYALSI
0
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:00:00 -
[175] - Quote
I contacted u for this, ant ask u what need for rent did i must come in goons or something else, and u bring someone on chat and u left me with him, and ofc i make deal with him about this rent....its ok now just look in your corps how much i send u money and u send me back...
2014.07.26 20:48:06Player Donation-1.000.000.000,00 ISK69.119.166,41 ISKSremica deposited cash into Industrial Cleaning and Waxing's account |
Chinicata Shihari
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2014.07.30 20:30:00 -
[176] - Quote
Sremica wrote:I contacted u for this, ant ask u what need for rent did i must come in goons or something else, and u bring someone on chat and u left me with him, and ofc i make deal with him about this rent....its ok now just look in your corps how much i send u money and u send me back...
2014.07.26 20:48:06Player Donation-1.000.000.000,00 ISK69.119.166,41 ISKSremica deposited cash into Industrial Cleaning and Waxing's account
It seems you were recruitment scammed after you said 'can I pay u or ur leader to join' after trying to rent a system that was already rented. I had a chat with the Rental Manager you contacted and he told me what you said and he told you to speak with the corp that was renting that system.
You went against his wisdom, contacted someone else and didn't go through official channels. In the rules (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1csAFPQRTgOLFMfhofzw-ckqHcTl6jUQzlW4Lybaj-Jo/edit) it clearly states 'The ONLY place you should send money is "Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere Exec" and you should do so ONLY after reaching an agreement with one of these five people. '
Morale of the story go through official channels and be secure. Always chat with the Rental Management Team and your investment will be safe. |
Sremica
IROYALSI
0
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Posted - 2014.07.31 05:21:00 -
[177] - Quote
welll...is to late now, yes i asked for this system bc i wayted leader form this corp what they rented (2days)and he dont show, then i start convo with goons...i ask what i need to to?can have options to join in goons and rent there(i will pay ofc) bc leader is offline from this corp, they say yes u can, but must pay 3b. for inviduals...i just say lool i dont have 3b. have only 1b. and he saw this on API...he sayed ok we can have deal, u gie us 1b. now and 2b. when u colected, u can go now in system and start to mining or rating...and he say if u want use cheron for transport ship and come, i say ok its not probm. for this, is prob. about standings, i can go there bc i am neutral for all who is in this sistems, and i must be green or blue...then ofc i told hem when i join in corp its goons or someone who is blue(i dont care)i will come, i dont want to be easy targed(i am not stupid to much)he say ok np, u will be in goons wayt 24h bc API idk why but ok.then i say do u need api from mu rest characters , he say nah dont need 1 is enought, ten he say again dont worry no one will atack u, u have free way, and ofc i repeat this ok when i join in corp or aly, and he go off after this convo.I sendet apply to corp , and of someone reject me(not guy from chat)then i start convo with this person, and tell hem all what hapened, and he say same ok u will be soon in goons....he bean nice guy, good for tallk.I sended aply 3x more after this and all 3 rejected, and this ppl whit i talk they all blocked me, probably when they finish chat with me, first is this Mr.Omni, we spoke some words(nothing bad talk)and he blocked me after this...idk why...but now i understand....i am fool bc dont lisen other ppl what they say me for goons, dont trust them, dont make any deal with them, i saw to late coments on forum, i know this is only game and this is same like in real life always will be someone who want to take your money for nothing, i dont hate goons or someone, i just dont like ppl who lie, and u guys are good organized for this. now i learn leasson, NEVER trust goons
i contacted admins for this, and i asked them that is normal in eve?they dont answer me, but they will...
keep this 1b. i dont cry about this, i can say good words only ppl who respect agreement.
sorry for bad english |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.07.31 16:31:00 -
[178] - Quote
Systems with Ice still available!
Don't contact me asking to pay me to join GoonWaffe, I'll just block you! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:23:00 -
[179] - Quote
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Rent as if you were to live forever."
-Mahatma Gandhi |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
|
Posted - 2014.08.03 16:45:00 -
[180] - Quote
Systems available! Contact a Rental Management Team member for more information. |
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dexter xio
TURN LEFT
63
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Posted - 2014.08.03 18:00:00 -
[181] - Quote
BOTS BETTER M8 Dexter xio - That cool guy |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
|
Posted - 2014.08.04 17:45:00 -
[182] - Quote
Space available! Contact the RMT for details.
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
|
Posted - 2014.08.05 17:33:00 -
[183] - Quote
As a reminder, Rental Scams are explicitly forbidden by the CFC. If you feel that you've been scammed, please reach out to a CFC Diplomat. Instructions on how to reach out to them are in the OP.
That said- plenty of systems available to rent! Make sure you check the multiple tabs on the google doc for all available systems! |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
409
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Posted - 2014.08.05 17:39:00 -
[184] - Quote
This thread has been reviewed and all friendly bumps, off topic posts, and replies to off topic posts have been removed.
Sell Order Rules: Bumping is allowed only by the character who started the thread. Friendly or multiple bumps per day are not permitted. Sell Order Rule 7. This forum is for selling items, you may reply to the threads with bids or questions regarding the item. All other posts are off topic and will be removed. Sell Order Rule 14. Please do not take matters into your own hands if your thread needs moderation, please use the report function on the forums or file a petition under the categories Other and Forums.
ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
|
Posted - 2014.08.06 18:12:00 -
[185] - Quote
ISD Tyrozan wrote:re[...]n[...]t f[...]r[...]o[...]m c[...]F[...]c
Not empty quoting bump |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
39
|
Posted - 2014.08.07 17:00:00 -
[186] - Quote
Not satisfied with your current system? Contact an RMT member to upgrade your system today!
We can facilitate pro-rated upgrades from an existing system to a brand new one!
"Abba Zaba, you my only friend." -Thurgood Jenkins |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.08 21:34:00 -
[187] - Quote
The Rental Management Team is happy to help- evemail us with any questions you have! |
ZliDust
G. Union Collateral Damage.
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.10 00:57:00 -
[188] - Quote
Price List please |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.12 22:21:00 -
[189] - Quote
List sent!
Much to the dismay of many, the RMT staff is actually very helpful and pretty nice! Feel free to reach out to us with any rental questions that you have, and we'll be happy to help. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.13 18:13:00 -
[190] - Quote
Enjoy a full jump bridge network through rental space when you're renting with the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere!
Easy access to and from hi-sec! |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.15 17:28:00 -
[191] - Quote
117 member corporations with over 3800 members! Join today! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.19 17:36:00 -
[192] - Quote
More systems available! Check out the systems list for some great opportunities. Team up and work with your neighbors to further enhance your experience! We have groups working together that rent out and share nearly an entire constellation! |
Anita Whiplash
Applied Apathy
1
|
Posted - 2014.08.19 19:14:00 -
[193] - Quote
Price list please |
Nadarob Skillane
INDUSTRIA BATTLETECH
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.19 19:34:00 -
[194] - Quote
Price List please |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.19 22:25:00 -
[195] - Quote
Lists sent (twice!) - The rental team is ready and able to answer any questions you may have! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.20 20:42:00 -
[196] - Quote
Don't sink your ISK in unreliable ventures that get shut down by CCP for RMT-
You can trust in the stability and profitability of participating in the CFC rental program. Going strong with 120 corporations and 3800+ members! |
Shark Jaws
Hahda Innovations
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.21 19:27:00 -
[197] - Quote
price list please |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2014.08.21 19:48:00 -
[198] - Quote
List sent out!
Not an empty bump |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.22 21:59:00 -
[199] - Quote
Nothing to do this weekend? It's the perfect time to move into a brand new nullsec system! |
Concord Yolo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.08.26 21:49:00 -
[200] - Quote
Price List please |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2014.08.26 22:15:00 -
[201] - Quote
List sent! Systems still available! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
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Posted - 2014.08.26 22:15:30 -
[202] - Quote
List sent! Systems still available! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
|
Posted - 2014.09.03 21:05:00 -
[203] - Quote
New systems available!
(Don't mine Arkonor! ) |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.03 21:05:55 -
[204] - Quote
New systems available!
(Don't mine Arkonor! ) |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
49
|
Posted - 2014.09.05 18:30:00 -
[205] - Quote
Send us an evemail if you have additional questions! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.05 18:30:32 -
[206] - Quote
Send us an evemail if you have additional questions! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2014.09.09 17:41:00 -
[207] - Quote
More systems rented- :get in: |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
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Posted - 2014.09.09 17:41:48 -
[208] - Quote
More systems rented- :get in: |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2014.09.10 20:07:00 -
[209] - Quote
Join the in-game channel "CFC Rentals" for assistance, or eve-mail any of the Rental Management Team members for help! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
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Posted - 2014.09.10 20:07:14 -
[210] - Quote
Join the in-game channel "CFC Rentals" for assistance, or eve-mail any of the Rental Management Team members for help! |
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Kirk Tyranus
Incredibly Unnecessary Expenses
0
|
Posted - 2014.09.15 14:43:00 -
[211] - Quote
Can you provide a dotlan link to your designated pipe systems in Delve? |
Kirk Tyranus
Incredibly Unnecessary Expenses
0
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Posted - 2014.09.15 14:43:52 -
[212] - Quote
Can you provide a dotlan link to your designated pipe systems in Delve? |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
72
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Posted - 2014.09.16 22:10:00 -
[213] - Quote
Systems available!
If you have questions or concerns about renting, please evemail any of the Rental Staff. Most of us are checking evemails even if we're not logged in! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.16 22:10:13 -
[214] - Quote
Systems available!
If you have questions or concerns about renting, please evemail any of the Rental Staff. Most of us are checking evemails even if we're not logged in! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
|
Posted - 2014.09.17 16:06:00 -
[215] - Quote
System Rentals going strong with over a year under our belts! Join today! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.17 16:06:41 -
[216] - Quote
System Rentals going strong with over a year under our belts! Join today! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
|
Posted - 2014.09.18 16:14:00 -
[217] - Quote
System rentals not your thing? Try out our new one-time fee membership opportunity into 0.0 space!
If you're a miner, this opportunity is especially for you. One time fee of 250mil, and that's it! Unlimited potential! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.18 16:14:52 -
[218] - Quote
System rentals not your thing? Try out our new one-time fee membership opportunity into 0.0 space!
If you're a miner, this opportunity is especially for you. One time fee of 250mil, and that's it! Unlimited potential! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2014.09.19 16:00:00 -
[219] - Quote
Contact a Rental Management Team member if you're interested in renting a system, OR if you're looking to partake in our new program! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.19 16:00:34 -
[220] - Quote
Contact a Rental Management Team member if you're interested in renting a system, OR if you're looking to partake in our new program! |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
|
Posted - 2014.09.22 16:54:00 -
[221] - Quote
Kathao Crendraven is a boss. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.22 16:54:05 -
[222] - Quote
Kathao Crendraven is a boss. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
93
|
Posted - 2014.09.23 16:00:00 -
[223] - Quote
Systems available, as well as spots for individuals in our New Rental Program. Check it out! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.23 16:00:21 -
[224] - Quote
Systems available, as well as spots for individuals in our New Rental Program. Check it out! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
|
Posted - 2014.09.24 15:56:00 -
[225] - Quote
Systems available! Evemail me with any questions-
Our other rental opportunity, [NOBUX], now has docking rights at YA0! Get an alt in NOBUX and get access to the largest nullsec market in the game! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.24 15:56:56 -
[226] - Quote
Systems available! Evemail me with any questions-
Our other rental opportunity, [NOBUX], now has docking rights at YA0! Get an alt in NOBUX and get access to the largest nullsec market in the game! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 18:06:00 -
[227] - Quote
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.09.29 18:06:46 -
[228] - Quote
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
157
|
Posted - 2014.10.10 21:53:00 -
[229] - Quote
Plenty of systems available to rent! Check out the list of available systems in the OP. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.10.10 21:53:16 -
[230] - Quote
Plenty of systems available to rent! Check out the list of available systems in the OP. |
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
161
|
Posted - 2014.10.13 16:51:00 -
[231] - Quote
Sprichst Du Deutsch?
http://tinyurl.com/pblrd-rentals-german |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.10.13 16:51:13 -
[232] - Quote
Sprichst Du Deutsch?
http://tinyurl.com/pblrd-rentals-german |
Varsua Demilia
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.10.14 08:15:00 -
[233] - Quote
I'm interested in rattling in low sec systems, or potentially mining. What would be the cheapest avenue to pursue, for 1 toon...or 2 toons...or 10 toons? Please eve mail me with suggestions, costs and possibly arrangements best suited for my needs. Thank you! |
Varsua Demilia
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.10.14 08:15:33 -
[234] - Quote
I'm interested in rattling in low sec systems, or potentially mining. What would be the cheapest avenue to pursue, for 1 toon...or 2 toons...or 10 toons? Please eve mail me with suggestions, costs and possibly arrangements best suited for my needs. Thank you! |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2624
|
Posted - 2014.11.06 19:47:20 -
[235] - Quote
On request by the OP this thread has been transferred to the character Kathao Crendraven. From this moment on Kathao Crendraven is to be considered the OP of this thread and is therefore the only one allowed to bump it etcetera.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Alexander Draegar
Amarr Empire
9
|
Posted - 2014.11.07 02:34:45 -
[236] - Quote
Just out of curiosity, I've got a few questions.
1. If I start up a one-man corp specifically to rent a system, do I get exclusive rights to everything in the system (minus the mentioned moons)? I do rat quite often, and it would be an extreme bother if others were knocking potential income from under my feet.
2. What is the base rate for a system, before additions are included? (Suppose I've got a dead-end system with one point of truesec, ten belts, and a station. How much would I have to pay aside from the 1.5 bil?)
3. You mentioned temporary access to YA0, and all that. However, I typically use a combat-oriented ship to haul my more valuable items, due to paranoia and all that. Would that pass along well?
King of Pyrax, sovereign of its dependent territories, servant of God, and capsuleer in my spare time.
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
|
Posted - 2014.11.07 05:27:46 -
[237] - Quote
Kathao is offline, so I will answer these for you:
1) Yes, you get exclusive access to all sites in the system you rent.
2) The costs of renting a system are listed in the PBLRD Availability doc listed in the OP of the thread
3)I would not recommend flying a combat ship all the way to YA0, that said, we do recommend using travel fit interceptor. As long as you are not doing anything suspicious (such as warping to combat sites you're passing through, or hanging out on a random gate on the way), then you should have no problems.
As a clarification for everyone, YA0 access is permanent at this point. Any PBLRD or NOBUX member can dock in YA0, and we don't forsee this changing unless CCP changes a mechanic that forces us to revoke docking rights. |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2014.11.08 01:09:19 -
[238] - Quote
Last week, we opened the very first Council of Rental Management, a council in which every corporation in PBLRD can move in a chosen delegate to represent the corp's interests. The Rental Command is working together closely with the council to work on existing issues and plan new projects. Every renting corporation is welcome to lend their voice power and help out to improve the Rental Program! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.06 01:06:06 -
[239] - Quote
A new month, a new opportunity! Join PBLRD today and get a fresh and valuable system for your corporation! |
Akhwah
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.12.06 02:36:00 -
[240] - Quote
I take offense at what you call yourself.
The "prosperity sphere" was a period of extreme hardship by the japanese during ww2.
its akin to calling yourselves the fourth reich. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3503
|
Posted - 2014.12.07 07:35:53 -
[241] - Quote
Removed a troll post.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2014.12.07 21:56:49 -
[242] - Quote
Bump, plenty of space available in Vale of the Silent! |
Aston Bradley
Mars Mining Industry
70
|
Posted - 2014.12.08 14:11:28 -
[243] - Quote
Hi.
Price list please.
And do you have any policies regarding the production of super-carriers?
[i]FiS should be the priority, but WiS should not be burried!
Don't encourage CCP to make empty promises or Incarna will happen again![/i]
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Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2014.12.09 15:24:45 -
[244] - Quote
Aston Bradley wrote:Hi.
Price list please.
And do you have any policies regarding the production of super-carriers?
The Availability Sheet is listed in the OP, here you go: http://tinyurl.com/Pblrd-Prices
The production of super carriers and titans is prohibited, as mentioned in the Rental Rules. We do not install any upgrades for SCSAA, so it's not possible in the first place. The production of any other kind of ships, including capitals, is totally fine and encouraged. |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.14 12:29:52 -
[245] - Quote
We got some excellent systems in Vale of the Silent open for use, contact me if you are interested! |
Petrus Blackshell
Scrap Metal Squadron
3228
|
Posted - 2014.12.15 15:43:50 -
[246] - Quote
How are buyer's regret / refunds handled? Are refunds available?
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
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Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2014.12.15 16:18:47 -
[247] - Quote
In general we do not refund the rent of a system you were able to live in for some time. If you change your mind before joining the alliance, we of course refund the money to 100%. Additionally, we do not charge system transfers during the first month. That means, if you want to swap from the one system to another during your first month, you do not have to pay the full rent for the new system, but only the difference between the old and the new system. |
Steel Alabel
Syndicus Manufactorum
0
|
Posted - 2014.12.16 00:14:44 -
[248] - Quote
I'm interested in renting a system. Do you have a policy on subletting? I'd like to rent out a moon or two to a corp run by some IRL friends. |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.16 21:13:46 -
[249] - Quote
Yup, you are free to share stuff in your system with other people without a problem, especially with other renters. We encourage every kind of inter-corporational deals. |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.17 21:19:16 -
[250] - Quote
Bump. Contact me or Clewara if you are interested in renting a system! |
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Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2014.12.22 11:39:54 -
[251] - Quote
Bump |
Mu Reznor
Starpaws Intergalactic Cat Herding Collective
15
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Posted - 2014.12.22 23:27:31 -
[252] - Quote
Kathao Crendraven wrote:Bump
ygpm |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.26 13:18:01 -
[253] - Quote
If you recently found yourself homeless due to your space getting burned down by Russians and the general public, we might have a home for you. Rent your new home today! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.27 19:37:05 -
[254] - Quote
Semi-Daily bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:41:26 -
[255] - Quote
Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:06:50 -
[256] - Quote
bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.12.31 18:59:44 -
[257] - Quote
Last bump of the year! 2015 will be an good year for PBLRD. Get your place in our alliance when it' s still available! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.01 17:12:32 -
[258] - Quote
Happy New Year! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.06 11:34:05 -
[259] - Quote
A new months - fresh systems available! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.09 02:33:30 -
[260] - Quote
Time for another bump |
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Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.16 02:58:14 -
[261] - Quote
We have just opened up a new constellation in Vale of the Silent with a ~special project~. Pay a small rent and get a whole constellation for your corporation! See Availability Sheet for details. |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.18 15:06:05 -
[262] - Quote
We recently dropped the extra fee for systems with more than 15 belts, resulting in 14 Systems getting cheaper. Additional to the new constellation, these are plenty new possibilities to make good money in nullsec! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:21:33 -
[263] - Quote
Shameless bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.23 01:14:05 -
[264] - Quote
Some new system available! Also check out our "Commonwealth" program in Vale of the Silent! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.26 14:03:01 -
[265] - Quote
Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.27 13:58:49 -
[266] - Quote
The end of January is near, rent a valuable fresh system for February! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:49:41 -
[267] - Quote
Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.30 10:13:22 -
[268] - Quote
AU TZ bump, hello Aussies! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.01.31 14:29:29 -
[269] - Quote
To the top again |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.02.05 00:03:57 -
[270] - Quote
New month, new systems! |
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Alexi Drakenovic
Ishukone Reserve Military Division
25
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Posted - 2015.02.05 03:01:57 -
[271] - Quote
Any spots left in Caldari Space? Please send a Price List, thank you! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.02.07 12:27:45 -
[272] - Quote
Sent you a message.
You can find an always-updated price and system list (click) in the OP of this thread and linked in the public channel "CFC Rentals", where you also can find other renters to talk to and get in contact with us! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.02.11 23:42:39 -
[273] - Quote
This is a bump. |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.02.13 15:28:30 -
[274] - Quote
Let's go up |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.02.14 13:43:14 -
[275] - Quote
Up |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.02.17 22:15:07 -
[276] - Quote
Midlde of the month - still fresh systems available! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2015.02.22 01:54:10 -
[277] - Quote
Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.02.25 12:45:31 -
[278] - Quote
CSM Elections going online, Tranquility going offline. I promise we will be better hosts than CCP.
Also: Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:44:09 -
[279] - Quote
End of the month, get a fresh new system for march! |
Tinkers
Pixie Hollow Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2015.03.01 06:54:33 -
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Very satisfied with the rental program so far. Been a satisfied renter for several months now.
For those of you who think that the rental price is too high, you're going to make more than that back each month. The profit is there for the taking. We can't all be wrong |
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Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.01 14:29:37 -
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Happy to hear!
Also: Bump! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.06 13:44:37 -
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Bump up, fresh systems to get! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.07 13:54:06 -
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Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.08 16:13:12 -
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And another bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.09 16:46:50 -
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Oh look, a bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.11 19:00:55 -
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Again, a bump. |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:26:43 -
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Didn't bump for a while, time to fix that |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.18 00:59:56 -
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Bump for all you americans |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.20 02:10:00 -
[289] - Quote
Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:25:21 -
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Bump |
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Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.23 14:14:16 -
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April is coming pretty fast this year, isn't it?
Bump up |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:16:12 -
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And another bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:35:10 -
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Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.04.01 00:21:14 -
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Today we opened up a whole new constellation in Branch - finally space comes available here! The Commonwealth of 304-QS is now officially open. You can rent there and rent a whole constellation instead of a single system for the price of one system!
For details about this special offer, which already is active for the Commonwealth of YUT3-U in Vale of the Silent by the way, contact us! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.04.02 14:47:43 -
[295] - Quote
Bump up |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:04:35 -
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April has officially started today and there are several new systems available, including the nasty and awesome commonwealth of 304-QS in Branch. Great systems, upgraded to the max, stations everywhere, 5 ice belts and brilliant truesec - and you get everything at once due to the nature of a shared commonwealth.
Get your fresh system today! |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.04.07 10:51:05 -
[297] - Quote
Bump |
Kathao Crendraven
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.04.10 09:28:41 -
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Australian bump! |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
532
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Posted - 2015.04.20 04:40:28 -
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We are no longer offering this program, please close the thread. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5364
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Posted - 2015.04.20 05:09:36 -
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Thread closed via polite request.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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