I don't use any of this but ccp doesn't really effect the price of products that is the player base making the ammo. :) cruise should be faster then a Torp not sure if that's what you were saying. Maybe make torps more focused dmg as a cruise can have a larger radius?

This is disingenuous.

CCP can change the price of anything (albeit indirectly) by making it easier to get. In this case, if you want to make faction ammo cheaper, you could just lower the LP store costs to get it.

yup i bet its the lp conversion thats driving the price so high. also I am guessing because torpedos are so unpopular , the seller must make the price very high to make it worth selling. So maybe the problem is torpedos being very bad right now, no one wants to buy them which is why the high price.

Real problem for the torp missile is a limited range compared to the Cruise missile.
Fury Torp does a max dps of 1182, however the fury torp has only 1/6 range of a Fury Cruise. Meanwhile, the Fury Cruise will do 3/4 of the fury Torp's dps. Plus, Missile has a 100% effective dps from 0 to max range of the missile.

So, pilot would suffer low effective when armed with torp comparing to Cruise.

Solution:
Nerf Cruise Missile DPS
of
Nerf Cruise Missile Range
or
Buff Torp Missile Range
or
Buff Torp DPS

All calculate is on the Caldari Navy Raven with Level 5 Char with the 4 BCS II and T2 Launchers

Torps are better than a lot of people think they are.

They are great for attacking cap fleets with BS size ships.

Just like the rest of the Caldari ship they are great in fleets v.s. target larger than themselves.

If Torps were to get buffed I'd look at explosion velocity first as the radius is already high and would keep smaller ships from getting hit hugely while still improving the dps landed in BS v.s. BS fights were torps seem to be highly out shined by other weapon types.

Speed up the explosion. Leave the range / and max possible DPS out of it. Explosion radius might need a small tweak but that is unknown until the speed is handled first.

CCP are happy with torpedoes as a weapon system. I don't think they have any intention of changing them.

I appreciate the well constructed post. I can't give you an equally thorough response but I can say a few things on the subject.

First - torps simply perform better than you make it seem using your example. A mega has a tracking bonus for one, so its a weird thing to use for comparison, and theres a lot of other factors which aren't really accounted for. I picked out an example of my own to sort of demonstrate what I mean. This represents a 3bcu cruise raven, a 3bcu torp raven, and a 2mfs hyperion all shooting the same shield extended cruiser that is webbed: http://imgur.com/sP8JJZ6

As you can see, you get better max potential damage from the turrets, but the torps give you a lot more range flexibility. Both weapons are probably better than cruise until you get outside of effective range for them and then cruise takes over. This seems fairly healthy and I'm sure you can give examples where it isn't true, but there's an awful lot where it is true.

Second - and maybe more interesting to you - there's some work being done which will impact this situation. Some of it I can't talk about now but the most important piece is that we're looking seriously at more mod interactions with missiles. A missile equivalent to tracking enhancers, for instance, would allow you the flexibility to gain more damage application and/or range. If we are able to get something like this in before too long, we would likely be re-evaluating the state of all missile systems in relation to the change and some tweaks may happen as a result.

Thanks for the post o/

As things stand currently, there is NO reason to choose Torps over CMs for Lvl 4 PVE.

Sauce?

just lower the torp sig radius that will make torp a very good, but it will buff SB and many bomber will be seen ganking everywhere

Bombers already push stupid amounts of dps with torps at ridiculous ranges, ad a single TP (most have mids to) and you have no trouble hitting hard not matter the ship size, specially under MWD

Torps are ok what is not ok is TPs, those need some tweaks to increase dmg application just like you do it with TE's, as different as they seem both have same utility: increase dmg application
TP's are not ok yet, torps yes they are.

Bombers already push stupid amounts of dps with torps at ridiculous ranges, ad a single TP (most have mids to) and you have no trouble hitting hard not matter the ship size, specially under MWD

Torps are ok what is not ok is TPs, those need some tweaks to increase dmg application just like you do it with TE's, as different as they seem both have same utility: increase dmg application
TP's are not ok yet, torps yes they are.

Torpedo Range is a joke. The only BS that can use them effectively is the Golem, and not content with it being slow already, CCP plan to make it slower still. The velocity and flight times of Torps needs a massive boost. T2 Torps should have a 60 KM range and Javelins up to 80 KM.

They might actually get used then.

As things stand currently, there is NO reason to choose Torps over CMs for Lvl 4 PVE.

Being a short range weapon, i dont think we can hope for any incrrease for range. Most would not even support this. What we can at least hope for is to increase the travel velocity and decrease flight time . I find the wait to be the most annoying. also the 18rounds to be way to small. Again i think we have to blame the bombers on this as increasing the number of missiles per reload would make them OP. maybe the real problem is bombers sharing the same weapon system as the BS.

Why is that a problem?

Because it should be a viable Lvl 4 weapon platform, instead of the pathetic joke it currently is - obviously! Because a Golem with Torps should be the pinnacle of Caldari Missile Skill training. Instead it's sad. There are practically no missions I can think of where the majority of NPCs are within the range of T2 Rage Torps. Torp range on a Golem is pathetic, it should have far more range.