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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:10:00 -
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Do any of the devs that mess around with the fonts run the game at 1280x1024 on a 19-inch monitor? I'll ask again since we never got an answer. What was wrong with the pre-RMR font that everyone could read and wasn't blurry?
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:13:00 -
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With monkeys.
If they go OOHOOHOHOHHOOOO!! Then its a good font.
If they go ARGHREREREKEKKEEKRAARRRRRR! Then its a bad font.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:15:00 -
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... never mind ...
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Whalesaver
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:15:00 -
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:15:00 -
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One things for certain, they don't test to see the difference between a V and a Y in game.
You can't imagine how many times I've been called Veggstry.
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Nee'kita Frist
With monkeys.
If they go OOHOOHOHOHHOOOO!! Then its a good font.
If they go ARGHREREREKEKKEEKRAARRRRRR! Then its a bad font.
Hmmm... Seems their monkeys shouldn't get a treat then.
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Fooball
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:17:00 -
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The new one is very cool looking at some places. And actually I recall one of the devs commenting on it too. He had way past 20" TFT panel and mostly liked the font if I recall correctly.
It's not blurry. Might be only if you have a sub-standard CRT panel. On modern better quality TFT panels the newer font is so sharp that it slices your eyes. Just a few of the characters resemble each others a bit too much.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:17:00 -
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well the screwed the font AGAIN, seriously this gets more retarded each week :|
The wallet loaded blinds me :(
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nee'kita Frist
With monkeys.
If they go OOHOOHOHOHHOOOO!! Then its a good font.
If they go ARGHREREREKEKKEEKRAARRRRRR! Then its a bad font.
LMAO
That was funny, but you really shouldn't make me laugh, it hurts.
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Yeggstry
One things for certain, they don't test to see the difference between a V and a Y in game.
You can't imagine how many times I've been called Veggstry.
What about the number 8... I can't tell half of the time if it's 8, 6, 0, or 9
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen
Originally by: Yeggstry
One things for certain, they don't test to see the difference between a V and a Y in game.
You can't imagine how many times I've been called Veggstry.
What about the number 8... I can't tell half of the time if it's 8, 6, 0, or 9
That's only been a problem since the RMR patch, the v/y difference has been in since I started this game nearly 2 years ago.....
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Evan Skalder
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:19:00 -
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I've just about had enough of this. Why the constant drive to change the font? Font should be legible first and cool second. The point of the (digitally) printed word is to convey information, not cause headaches. Why must CCP undo so much good with these hardheaded and unilateral font changes?
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fooball
The new one is very cool looking at some places. And actually I recall one of the devs commenting on it too. He had way past 20" TFT panel and mostly liked the font if I recall correctly.
It's not blurry. Might be only if you have a sub-standard CRT panel. On modern better quality TFT panels the newer font is so sharp that it slices your eyes. Just a few of the characters resemble each others a bit too much.
That is my point. I don't (and I'm sure most of us don't) have a 20" super expensive TFT. I have a very good 19-inch CRT which works perfectly well with every other peice of software except EVE. This would lead me to believe it's not my monitor LOL!
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:25:00 -
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Devs most likely have 32" plasma screens 
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Evan Skalder
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:28:00 -
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Coming off my high horse, the font looks much better in 'expanded' mode. At least in 1024x768.
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Evan Skalder
I've just about had enough of this. Why the constant drive to change the font? Font should be legible first and cool second. The point of the (digitally) printed word is to convey information, not cause headaches. Why must CCP undo so much good with these hardheaded and unilateral font changes?
Unicode. To support character sets required for many languages a lot easier.
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Ilan
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:34:00 -
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Damn, this is really bad :(
Isn't 1280x1024 a widely used resolution?
This just seems ridiculous to me.
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen
Do any of the devs that mess around with the fonts run the game at 1280x1024 on a 19-inch monitor? I'll ask again since we never got an answer. What was wrong with the pre-RMR font that everyone could read and wasn't blurry?
Due to the fact the client went from ascii to unicode (to allow all those people who don't use the romain alphabet, plus specal chars) they could not use the old font, so they HAD to change it.
the problem with the font is that it works fine for some people (me included running it at 1024 on a 14.5" laptop and 1600 on a 21" CRT and it great), but others it seems its bad.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:41:00 -
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So why don't they offer a selection of fonts and let us choose one in the settings window?
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Evan Skalder
Coming off my high horse, the font looks much better in 'expanded' mode. At least in 1024x768.
Agreed, it was set back to default non-expanded after the patch for me.
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Guybrush Slacker
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Fooball
The new one is very cool looking at some places. And actually I recall one of the devs commenting on it too. He had way past 20" TFT panel and mostly liked the font if I recall correctly.
It's not blurry. Might be only if you have a sub-standard CRT panel. On modern better quality TFT panels the newer font is so sharp that it slices your eyes. Just a few of the characters resemble each others a bit too much.
I have one HP 2335 (23" LCD widescreen) and one Samsung 930BF (19", 4ms, 3 days old TFT) and a set of brand new glasses and I'm not sure I agree with you on this...
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:44:00 -
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What I dont get is why they cant just let you pick between several fonts, particularly the castor-era one that actually worked (seriously how hard would it be to convert it to unicode or whatever). That way everyone can just pick your favorite font, like you pick your favorite UI color etc.
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Sim Frost
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:45:00 -
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1280x1024 here too on plasma and fonts are still TERRIBLE, causing eye-strain and headache. Really missing pre-RMR
 
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dosperado
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Del Narveux
What I dont get is why they cant just let you pick between several fonts, particularly the castor-era one that actually worked (seriously how hard would it be to convert it to unicode or whatever). That way everyone can just pick your favorite font, like you pick your favorite UI color etc.
if ($font_selected == 1) {
use the good old font;
} else {
use the damn ugly new font;
}
That is too hard to program for the Devs...
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Solene
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:52:00 -
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I'm playing at 1920x1200
I d'on't have problem to read.
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Larz63
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Posted - 2006.01.10 13:52:00 -
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They test with their eyes closed.
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:00:00 -
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Am I glad someone already started a thread on this "improved font rendering" miracle.
Bloody anaconda tripe!
I merely had severe eye-strain with the original RMR font/rendering, I'm certifiably cross-eyed with the current "improvement".
At 1280x1024 on a very good 17' CRT, I can't see a thing with the font set to normal; with the font set to "expanded", menu text overflows, gets hidden and becomes guesswork while the chat is blown up and yet squished as though I was looking at a jpeg with 80% compression of badly anti-aliased Arial text. Best viewing option in chat: Expanded, aa - because then I know I need a magnifying glass but at least the spacing is correct.
Would someone please show me the design rule that says "If it's unicode, it's got to be illegible"?
It's perfectly avoidable - for being totally unnecessary - crap like this that does much more harm to this game than legions of macrominers ever could.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:02:00 -
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why can`t we just have our old font back? 
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:05:00 -
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Havent seen it yet, but it cant be worse than the current one?
I have a 1280 * 1024 CRT like alot of the people here id imagine, I would have thought the devs would have simply brought a cheap one and tested the font out on it? A couple of quid outlay to see if its readable for most of the people here?
Im sure they must have dont that. Anyway, lets see what it looks like when i log in. The last one made my head hurt
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:16:00 -
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As per the new Rodents With Disabilities Act CCP was required to hire exactly Three Blind Mice to meet the minimum requirements based on the number of hamsters they have running the wheels that power the servers.
They tried having them run, but that went bad after they started going the wrong way and crashed the jita cluster.
So instead they sent them up to UI development figuring that would keep them out of the way in an area they couldn't cause any harm.
In a usual display of the left hand not knowing, they unfortunatly choose to do so at a time when major upgrades, like the font, were being worked on...
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.01.10 14:27:00 -
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my eyes hurt, not that i expected anything else..
why cant they use Verdana, Lucida Console or something reading-friendly at least...
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:30:00 -
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...and the Y still looks like a V \o/ Nice one CCP 
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Wega Noir
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:43:00 -
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I have a 23" widescreen lcd and run 1920*1200 resolution and the fonts seem fine to me. Clear and crisp.
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Ayla Vanir
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:57:00 -
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I have a top-end 21" running at 1440x1080 and the new font isn't that great, but improved over RMR. Maybe on par with Cold War font, not really sure yet.
Too many UI widgets currently fail to account for font size options. Example: expanding the font width (ESC menu option) shows an obvious truncation at end lines and new line wrapping - right there on the very menu you're changing the option.
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Dezzereth
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Posted - 2006.01.10 16:59:00 -
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Not at all?
My guess is they add the font as the last thing to the patch.
"Crap we forgot the font... aww.. hmm ... ah.. lets take this .. has a nice name"
Everything else I don't believe
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.01.10 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: JP Beauregard
It's like putting icepicks into your eyes
You missed one balance view. :)
And yeah, in largest size, expanded today's font wasn't too bad looking at first glance. I was only on for a few minutes and was so tired one eye was still closed, but we'll see tonite. heh
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.01.10 17:12:00 -
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Oh Gohd...
please listen to what people want in their game.
We need font choices not half-assed fixes.
And I see the chat channel bug hasn't been properley addressed either. Considering that half of this game is played in chat channels, that alone is a serious***** up.
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Drunk Driver
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Posted - 2006.01.10 17:42:00 -
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Nobody does anything at CCP. They sit around drinking beer and waiting for us to send them money.
Which they then use to buy more beer.
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.01.10 17:50:00 -
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SERIOUSLEY WTF DID YOU DO!
CCP please can we just no go back, I am realy really tempeted to set my skill to drone interfacing lvl5, and cancel my account for a month over this the front gets worse with every chage, its ******* awfull!
We need to go back to the pre rmr font, What is your obsession with trying to blind me?
AARRARAGAGAGARRARARAAGGGGHGHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGHGHG (This does not even beging to expresse my anger and fustration"
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War Bear
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Posted - 2006.01.10 18:42:00 -
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Well I've gone from 2 aspirin from the original RMR patch to 3 with this new one. I can deal with bugs to a point but something that makes the game physically uncomfortable to play is something I won't tolerate. If I play for more than an hour on the last font my eyes started hurting. This new one screwed me up inside of 30 minutes. :(
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:08:00 -
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Quote:
how do the devs test the new fonts?
THEY DONT
aint anybody clicked on yet? Besides all QA consists of is 6 monkeys, maybe evil space monkeys?
Hehehehe, that would be kinda cool, space monkeys :) I'd call mines Admiral Peanuts 
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:32:00 -
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I can see it fine on a 19'' CRT in 1280x960.
Not saying everyone should be able to, just adding my own experiences in.
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Klak
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Posted - 2006.01.10 19:51:00 -
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Looks like the pre-RMR font to me. Wanna know why CCP never "gives you back your old font"? Because people ***** about every font that's ever been in the game. If they put Times New Roman in people would say they were going blind. CCP doesn't care what you think about the font because you knew you were going to hate it before you ever saw it.
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Merritt
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:01:00 -
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I for one have never been c0nfused bv. any of the sim.ilar &lyphs or have eyer had an issue with the decimal places in numbers..
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Marie O'Malley
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Marie O''Malley on 10/01/2006 20:06:59
Also on a 1280x1024 TFT LCD. Fonts are crisp, thats not the problem.
UI font looks slightly scrunched at font size 12 or 14 "normal". They are soooooooo expanded when I put them on "expanded" that I can't read things well. There is no happy in-between. In the UI, "normal" is probably better than "expanded".
In the chat window its really bad. "Normal" looks fine but is way too tiny to use without ruining my eyes (yes, I'm old and in "computer glasses" already - I do have physcal limits to the eyestrain I can handle). But the real problem is this:
Game Font setting: 12 or 14, normal or expanded.
Chat font size: largest
The chat font gets very stretched upwards and squished on "Largest" chat font size setting, almost like its for the wrong ratio. Going back to the middle size in chat actually makes the chat font keep the same spacing but get shorter (it looks nice - if it weren't so itty bitty).
Can't figure out a setting combination where I don't either bork my chat window readability or bork other interface areas.
"Faking" out EVE to make it display in a ratio that "works" for chat large font does bring that back to a reasonable looking font, but, of course, since I just forced my LCD to run out of native resolutions the fuzziness (to everything) is no good.
Is chat "large" a different font ratio from chat "medium"? My monitor seems to think so.
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Oylmpia
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:17:00 -
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I'm using Viewsonic VP930 19" LCD TFT monitor at 1280*1024, because other resolutions are a mess. Last 3 weeks I used my old faithful Hitachi CM772ET 18,1" CRT monitor @ 1152*864, because my tft didn't work (I was waiting for the replacement). Previously with my tft I had no problems. I had none of these font problems with my crt either when I selected that lower resolution. But it isn't an option with my tft.
Today I fired up eve, patched and.. NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That's the most horrible abomination I've ever seen! I even tried to set the font to "wide", but still my eyes.. my eyes..!
I made a comparison between EVE and Windows font (best viewed on tft):
http://www.kotiposti.net/ihmemies/eve/fontti_pielessa.jpg
Compare Verdana and that random garbage font Eve uses. What do you think? Virtually same size, but Eve's font is so unreadable. I'd like to see some real solutions. No other game I know has got such massive issues with so simple thing as showing text... since beta2 this same font problem has plagued Eve. Can't CCP make a permanent fix to this?
You could use some Windows GUI components like: http://www.kotiposti.net/ihmemies/eve/font.jpg and that's it. TFT and CRT users can select whatever font they think is best... no need to find a bad compromise between.
If that is too time-consuming, just try to implement a dropdown menu to game's options where you can select a few general fonts, including that which is currently used, and next to it a font size dropdown menu.
Pretty please. 
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Joachim Laurent
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nee'kita Frist
With monkeys.
If they go OOHOOHOHOHHOOOO!! Then its a good font.
If they go ARGHREREREKEKKEEKRAARRRRRR! Then its a bad font.
I thought a bad font meant you'd be having your monkeys flinging poo. Or was the poo flinging good? Looks like I need to re-educate myself on quality assurance, things are getting so complicated nowadays. *sigh*
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Devs most likely have 32" plasma screens
Shows how much YOU know about the games industry
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 10/01/2006 20:36:05
Originally by: Klak
Looks like the pre-RMR font to me. Wanna know why CCP never "gives you back your old font"? Because people ***** about every font that's ever been in the game. If they put Times New Roman in people would say they were going blind. CCP doesn't care what you think about the font because you knew you were going to hate it before you ever saw it.
Then let us pick our own. The REASON for the changes were unicode support, and there's no reason to NOT let us pick our own if that's been done properly.
This font is headache-inducingly bad on this monitor - it's an Illyama VM Pro 454 which has no issues with either CoV or the AA beta or any other game or program. This can only lead to the conclusion that Eve's font is poor :/
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2006.01.10 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
SERIOUSLEY WTF DID YOU DO!
CCP please can we just no go back, I am realy really tempeted to set my skill to drone interfacing lvl5, and cancel my account for a month over this the front gets worse with every chage, its ******* awfull!
We need to go back to the pre rmr font, What is your obsession with trying to blind me?
AARRARAGAGAGARRARARAAGGGGHGHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGHGHG (This does not even beging to expresse my anger and fustration"
!!RIGHT LAST F'ING TIME!!
it is NOT POSSABLE to go back to the old font because it is not unicode compatable, which is what the game uses for it's text.
it's not like windows font's, 3D engines do not work that well OK!
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Windle Poons
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:00:00 -
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1680x1050 20" tft, font looks worse than last patch, which was worse than CWE which was worse than Exodus which was worse than castor.
All in all this font is a big steaming pile of ****. Why does it have to be SO DIFFICULT TO READ!
Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!
ATI card btw.
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Amarria Lightwielder
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:03:00 -
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if it's not broken, fix it. Ccp policy :p
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War Bear
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: GouldFish
!!RIGHT LAST F'ING TIME!!
it is NOT POSSABLE to go back to the old font because it is not unicode compatable, which is what the game uses for it's text.
it's not like windows font's, 3D engines do not work that well OK!
That's CCP's problem then. I could care less if they use TTF, Unicode or any other font they can come up with. Fact of the matter is that this font at the same resolution I've always been running Eve at gives me a bloody headache. It's not merely annoying, its painful over even a short period of time. We're supposed to suck it up and pay these guys for something that actually hurts our eyes? No thank you.
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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:10:00 -
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I hope everyone using LCD/TFT screens are using the DVI connector, D-SUB/VGA connection IQ is most of the times subpar. With DVI you get pixels really pixel sharp, with VGA the worst is really ugly shadowy far for being crisp.
And peeps, please use 1280x960 on 19" CRTs' if you want see a round circle and not an ellipsoid.
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Snefru
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:18:00 -
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I can't really tell if the actual font is any better or not. I can't seem to get close enought to see it. My nose keeps getting in the way!!!!
The font used before the patch was easy to read, and you could increase the size to something bigger if needed.
WTF is the problem.
The biggest thing that ****es me off is I was to late in canceling my sub, so I'm here for another 25 days.
If we don't like the way the game is, and enough of us leave, they might think about doing something about it.
Plus if you leave for a while, you might find you don't miss it, and get an actual life
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Oylmpia
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Deakin
I hope everyone using LCD/TFT screens are using the DVI connector, D-SUB/VGA connection IQ is most of the times subpar. With DVI you get pixels really pixel sharp, with VGA the worst is really ugly shadowy far for being crisp.
It depends. With good monitor and gfx card you can get the data through d/a conversion intact. At least with my Viewsonic VP930, there is no difference between 1280*1024@60Hz using vga and 1280*1024@75Hz using dvi. Only changing refresh rate from 60 to 75 with dsub destroys the images.
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Sixtyniner
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:30:00 -
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And I was getting used to the old one, and now they¦ve changed it again. Does Evil really exist? Think so 
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Max Underwood
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:30:00 -
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This is pathetic.
What idiot is in charge of doing the fonts.
They were told before the patch it was screwed up.
Pull your head out of your f a
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Oylmpia
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Oylmpia on 10/01/2006 21:41:58
Edited by: Oylmpia on 10/01/2006 21:40:29
Anyway, try to be a bit more polite. At least I don't like to see all those "WTF" "idiot" etc. from day to day. If you can't come up with anything better than that, just don't type it. Ok?
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kage Getsu on 10/01/2006 21:46:30
Originally by: Macro Slasher
Edited by: Macro Slasher on 10/01/2006 13:45:41
Originally by: Evan Skalder
I've just about had enough of this. Why the constant drive to change the font? Font should be legible first and cool second. The point of the (digitally) printed word is to convey information, not cause headaches. Why must CCP undo so much good with these hardheaded and unilateral font changes?
Unicode. To support character sets required for many languages a lot easier.
Edit: I'm on 1280x1024. Looks sweet to me.
That's a load of crap. Unicode text showed up just fine in Cold War if the viewer had the font. After RMR, unicode text still only displays if the viewer has the font. All that changed in RMR is that we got a hideous font, which is a little better after the latest patch.
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Sam Arran
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:50:00 -
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Megadon
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:52:00 -
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CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray Charles.
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Lane Shift
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Getsu
That's a load of crap. Unicode text showed up just fine in Cold War if the viewer had the Windows foreign language support installed. After RMR, unicode text still only displays if the viewer has the language support installed. All that changed in RMR is that we got a hideous font.
They didn't need to screw with the font in the first place.
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lane Shift
Originally by: Kage Getsu
That's a load of crap. Unicode text showed up just fine in Cold War if the viewer had the Windows foreign language support installed. After RMR, unicode text still only displays if the viewer has the language support installed. All that changed in RMR is that we got a hideous font.
They didn't need to screw with the font in the first place.
Yeah, I don't understand it either. Nothing really changed with the supposed upgraded Unicode support (Except that now characters you don't have support for are blanks spaces instead of question marks or squares! WOW), so there doesn't seem to be any kind of valid reason for the new font.
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inara reynolds
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:05:00 -
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I liked the font after RMR. I often use Cyrillic fonts and they were very good after RMR. After last night update, I was upset. It is bad. Not really really bad, but quite bad. In my HO put old cyryllic back. Latin, do not care much as I liked before RMR and did not have much trouble after. |
axels2000
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Posted - 2006.01.10 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: axels2000 on 10/01/2006 22:06:31
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Marcus Ken
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Posted - 2006.01.11 00:51:00 -
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Dear CCP, are u sure u have a QA departament? Fire them all, and hire real testers.
K thnx...
Grabs glasses...
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Somebob Yon
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:03:00 -
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1600*1200 on an LCD monitor (Viewsonic VP201). The font got bad after RMR, and the period character apparently left in disgust. The last patch font change has earned EVE the unique place of being the only game I have which I can't actually play, mainly due to getting a migraine within roughly five minutes of logging in. I'd complain more about how utterly insane it is to provide only single font with no apparent regard for how it might appear on the different displays and resolutions found amongst players, but I need to lie down and hope the meds work. The game is quite honestly unplayable for me.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:13:00 -
[69]
After tonight, and a migrane tablet, I feel the question is more "Do The Devs Test The New Fonts?"
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:39:00 -
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I imagine a GREAT deal of alcohol, and perhaps other substances, is first consumed. Then they get around to deciding which font to choose. Of course, at this point, Mother Theresa in her final weeks would have looked like a Playmate to them. This would explain much.
Originally by: rowbin hod
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.11 02:41:00 -
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They test them using hamsters.
If the hamster spins its wheel, its a bad font.
If the hamster explodes in agony, its a perfectly good font.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.11 03:05:00 -
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OK. Tried this font. Set to wide, feels better than the RMR font. Any other than wide is bad (may give headache? Didnt want to test something that will make me sick). With wide settings, font looks better but certain stuffs like escrows, etc. doesnt really fit wide text well. Even option screen is a bit messed up. Oh well, better than no change at all. If we have to use this, I can tolerate this font but would be nicer if we could have Cold War font back please.
CW font - buggy chat but 7/10.
RMR font - 2/10.
RMR 1st patched-up font - 5/10.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:00:00 -
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I'd grown to like the former font, this new one looks like crap, why the change?
Remind me about The Maze.
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 04:17:00 -
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No font issues for me.
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.01.11 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kylania on 11/01/2006 08:02:24
Originally by: Vendrin
No font issues for me.
Till the following cannot be confused, it's not a good font:
VY
DO0
G68B&
1.1 11
0.0 00
Il1
"'`
On the forums and in the forum edit all those characters are extremely distinct. In game each line is the same effectively.
Not to mention that to make the current font readable I need to make the font "extended", which than means it's too big for tab and column captions. :(
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Golerre Evraun
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Posted - 2006.01.11 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Golerre Evraun on 11/01/2006 08:31:45
I have an idea, how about a small patcher, allow players to select their own fonts and have the patcher integrate the new font into the game, i clearly remember seeing a font unpacking during the Cold war>rmr patch.
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Par'Gellen
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Posted - 2006.01.11 12:38:00 -
[77]
Can someone explain to me why unicode has to equal horrible? I've seen plenty of perfectly good unicode fonts in my time. I have NEVER seen the font that is in EVE (probably with good reason, i.e. It's not readable...).
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Somebob Yon
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Posted - 2006.01.11 22:40:00 -
[78]
Day 2. You know, I'd really love to be able to log in and play the game again. I've already spent months getting even the Advanced Learning skills trained up, and now I need resources and standings much, much more than I need a mandatory vacation. That nobody has bothered to even acknowledge this as an issue is disappointing.
Ah well. I have a WoW account, and that's the cheapest gaming entertainment I can get. EVE is quite a lot more fun, but that's not an option now. Hopefully things get fixed before the EVE account runs out. Till then, I shall ***** no more.
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Niffo
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Posted - 2006.01.12 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Niffo on 12/01/2006 05:37:24
I would like to see a set of font sliders that increase the size instead of spacing for the different text areas in the game (such as chat window, etc). I think it would also be good to have a "bold" type option for all areas including the chat window. An option to select different fonts would also be a nice addition to the UI customization.
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Zavernus Hamarabi
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Posted - 2006.01.12 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen
Originally by: Yeggstry
One things for certain, they don't test to see the difference between a V and a Y in game.
You can't imagine how many times I've been called Veggstry.
What about the number 8... I can't tell half of the time if it's 8, 6, 0, or 9
You know what they say about a thousand monkeys and a thousand typewriters.
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Aneeda
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Posted - 2006.01.12 07:29:00 -
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The fact that we have to argue about the font at all is proof that the way fonts are handled within Eve is not adequate. The font type should be selectable and the font size should have wide scalability to match different peoples preferences or disability needs.
Everyone should be able to to get what they want out of the user interface. This isn't a win or lose situation.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.12 13:31:00 -
[82]
Well, I'm out until this is fixed. So are quite a few other people I've talked to (IRL).
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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anthonieak
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Posted - 2006.01.12 14:10:00 -
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The font is not good. you can not see the refined minerals any more in 123.958 for isogen instead you see 123... only if you go with mouse over minerals you can see the exact amount of refined minerals. Using 17" screen in 1152x864
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