The agility change is an agility buff. The ships will be more agile.

I regularly warp in for bombing runs in very hostile environments surrounded by bubbles. Proper alignment for warp-ins is essential, and while hostiles bubbling their own fleet to protect from a warp-to-zero (or 30) will stop you from getting the absolute best warp-in, they just freaking bubbled themselves...

Gallente shouldn't be a new FOTM that owns everything else. They should have their tactics that, when the hostiles are forced to fight on their terms, the Gallente should win hands down. Caldari missile fleets have this. Amarr AHAC and Hellcat fleets have this. Minmatar Alpha fleets have this. Gallente...

Amarr and Minmatar DPS curves fight it out for the mid-range combat, and Missile damage and Artillery owns long range. Blasters have their niche in close range, and that is where they should be insanely deadly.

T3 BC's are all about breaking the mold. If Gallente ships are fat and slow while being insanely deadly at close range, the Talos becomes the Fast but paper thin deadly at close range ship. Especially with the design being slightly un-Gallente, it fits in perfectly with not only its role but its tactics-shift away from other blaster boats.

Just my thoughts.

Wrong! Try again!
Other weapons operate further than the warp disruptor range of 24km.
A Minmatar ship could kite a Gallente one at 23km. The Gallente one will be doing next to no DPS, and die a slow and painful death.

In an engagement where the the enemy has a faster ship (Read: Almost all the time) and are using railguns, arties, autocannons, pulse lasers, beam lasers, guided or unguided missiles blasters will lose every single time.

I still don't think these changes are gonna make much of a difference the hybrids lack the versatility/utility of the other guns. Yes they have their perks but in pvp versatility trumps all.

They can ether buff blasters by giving them more range but this will just cause the differences in the gun types to blur

or

They can significantly buff the speed on blaster boats

or

They can ...GASP... nerf autocannons/pulse lasers to where they have a damn hard time tracking stuff in blaster ranges

Otherwise they have given no real incentive for people to switch to using blasters.

Does every ship in the game fit neuts?

No? Well, then I guess you, too, are describing a Single situation - that is when you warp to 0 on top of your enemy and your enemy has neuts.


lol

LMAO so what your saying is its ok for hurricane to still be the do-all able to kill every gallante ship right? as i can fit autos and 2 medium neuts on there and destroy every gallante ship with this buff as it stands (maybe not the talos but it'd be close)

Other weapons operate further than the warp disruptor range of 24km.
A Minmatar ship could kite a Gallente one at 23km. The Gallente one will be doing next to no DPS, and die a slow and painful death.

In an engagement where the the enemy has a faster ship (Read: Almost all the time) and are using railguns, arties, autocannons, pulse lasers, beam lasers, guided or unguided missiles you'll find that blasters will lose every single time.

CCP Tallest come on, read this thread, you can obviously see that 99% of people see this as NOT ENOUGH BY A LONGSHOT

my point is the shortest range ship, should be able to catch its target

The standard tactic for a blaster ship pilot is to warp to 0 on the target

I think web bonus in any sense is bad since it is situational overpowered and would imbalance certain faction and specialized t2-3 hulls
(why fly a rapier when you can have a gallente hull that gets that bonus 100mil cheaper? etc)

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If you have issues with this balancing plan, please post your feedback in the comment thread. We are listening.

Cause we speak about a bonus on the efficiency of the web, not the range......

Not true. The standard tactic for a blaster ship pilot is to warp to 0 on the target (and not at max disruptor/scram range), web/scram the target, drop drones and apply overheated blasters before the target can putter away at webbed speeds.
....

So you want long range blasters? Would you like that at Scorch range or EMP range?

What I described would actually fit what blasters are SUPPOSED to be, as well as provide a niche that an intelligent pilot could exploit. Amarr ships are great if you can control range, but they aren't the fastest so you need a smart pilot. Caldari ships are great if you can MAINTAIN range (and somehow figure out how to keep the guy on grid), but have crap for DPS and are useless up close. Minmatar have amazing kiting ability with their speed and falloff giving amazing flexibility with range and damage type while on grid.

What do I want with Gallente? I want a ship that when I get a warp in, or the opponent makes a mistake, I can drop a scram and web on him and eat him alive. I would prefer that EVE Online never has a Jack of all Trades ship that can truly own everything (though at times the Vagabond has come pretty damn close), and for that matter I'd like to see Gallente truly excel at one specific area while on grid. I described it as creating a zone of death, and I think that metaphor fits quite nicely for what blasters *could* be if CCP agrees.

here are the fixes for hybrids:

blasters:

concept shotguns (short range arties...)

1. Increase base damage by 50%
2. Decrease rate of fire by 30%
3. Increase falloff by 15%
4. increase tracking by 37.5%

railguns: Concept long range auto cannons

1. Increase base damage by 15%
2. Increase rate of fire by 15%
3. decrease activation cost by 40%
4. increase tracking by 37.5%

sigh
so if the mega got a 90% strength bonus why would I want to pay 10times the price for a vindicator?

So, one again CCP chooses to boost T2 turret ammo while making sure T2 missile ammo retains its negative ship bonuses?

Any chance this blatant favoritism will stop?

T2 Missiles should loose the ship speed and sig bloom penalties NAO!

Failing to do so just solidifies the bias.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1431186&page=1#1

My assembly hall post before the old forum got shut down had about 70% thumbs up.

The idea is to make blasters shotgun damage. Meaning the closer you are, the more raw dps they do. This would mean medium do 20-30% more damage when within 50% of optimal. The same dps when outside of optimal.

And then , instead of falloff decreasing the chance to hit, it would only reduce the damage blasters deal. Because shotgun blasters as we all know move in a cone. So the closer you are the more hits you take, the farther away you are the less hits you take. However the cool part of this plan is optimal range is based on the size of the target. If your trying to shoot a target with larger sig radius than your guns, than their effective optimal range is greater. Since the cone of damage gets larger as it travels, damage is directly linked to how far away the target is, and how big it is.



Think the way they balance shotguns for any fps title.



If your in a frigate trying to hit a battleship, then hell why not, you now have 12-15km range on your small blasters. Which allows you to tackle and still put on some dps.