Please CCP, for the love of god, if you want to nerf marauder's drone capabilities, nerf just the bandwidth, not the drone bays. Give us at least 75m3 dronebays. That's 2 flights of lights and 1 flight of salvagers..

Please CCP, for the love of god, if you want to nerf marauder's drone capabilities, nerf just the bandwidth, not the drone bays. Give us at least 75m3 dronebays. That's 2 flights of lights and 1 flight of salvagers..

If you use salvage drones on a marauder, you are doing it very, very wrong

If you use salvage drones on a marauder, you are doing it very, very wrong

This is my marauder super sauce,

Three tractors in the highs pulling in wrecks/loots while your salvage drones go to town and npcs are exploding left and right. By the time your done killing npcs the room is looted and salvaged. Its the only way.

i hate how light drones just dies in mission even if you try to return them right away and they are under 10km from ship. I dont see how 1 flight of small drones can be enough.

This is my marauder super sauce,

Three tractors in the highs pulling in wrecks/loots while your salvage drones go to town and npcs are exploding left and right. By the time your done killing npcs the room is looted and salvaged. Its the only way.

Please CCP, for the love of god, if you want to nerf marauder's drone capabilities, nerf just the bandwidth, not the drone bays. Give us at least 75m3 dronebays. That's 2 flights of lights and 1 flight of salvagers..

100/175 seem correct to me. You have large cargo hold, give it a large drone bay too, and 100 bandwidth for 4x sentry for great projected drone dps that is stationary next to you in Bastion mode for increased synergy without power creep (matches most faction / pirate drone bays). Otherwise the extra projection is sort of pointless.

Nerf bandwidth as you see fit but at least give us 75m3 drone bay

So far, what I can see based on the actual testing of those ships, is that the Bastion mode is good, but that the hulls were most likely nerfed a bit too much.

I agree with the drone flexibility - while I don't see them necessarily keep the TQ bandwidth, they can use moar dronebay.

Also considering reverting some of the other hull nerfs, will let you know when we have more details (we aren't going to change their role though). And sorry to say, but version 2 with web bonuses is not coming back, it just didn't fit that well with the role and Bastion mode.

So far, what I can see based on the actual testing of those ships, is that the Bastion mode is good, but that the hulls were most likely nerfed a bit too much.

I agree with the drone flexibility - while I don't see them necessarily keep the TQ bandwidth, they can use moar dronebay.

Also considering reverting some of the other hull nerfs, will let you know when we have more details (we aren't going to change their role though). And sorry to say, but version 2 with web bonuses is not coming back, it just didn't fit that well with the role and Bastion mode.

At first glance, these ships NEED web bonuses. The concept of giving them a larger drone bay so they can burn through millions of ISK of Hob II's per site is idiotic.

Great, so any testing I am organizing on Sisi for Marauders will be ignored out of hand.
At first glance, these ships NEED web bonuses. The concept of giving them a larger drone bay so they can burn through millions of ISK of Hob II's per site is idiotic.

So far, what I can see based on the actual testing of those ships, is that the Bastion mode is good, but that the hulls were most likely nerfed a bit too much.

I agree with the drone flexibility - while I don't see them necessarily keep the TQ bandwidth, they can use moar dronebay.

Also considering reverting some of the other hull nerfs, will let you know when we have more details (we aren't going to change their role though). And sorry to say, but version 2 with web bonuses is not coming back, it just didn't fit that well with the role and Bastion mode.

large drone bay is never a bad thing i dont understand why you are saying it is idiotic

What is the point of a larger bay, which just means more small drones fed to the NPC AI.
Now, if you are talking a larger bay, AND Bandwidth, so we can fit sentries, like we do now, then that is different.

I don't know about you, Dinsdale, but I find it somewhat difficult to lose a Hob II unless I'm not watching rat aggro or drone damage properly. Granted that Incursion rats hate drones somewhat more than other K-space rats, but this is why I said elsewhere that you may need to consider adding better anti-frigate capabilities to your fleet.

You're trying to shoehorn what is essentially a new ship into an old flying technique and it isn't going to work as well as you want it to.

Bring ships with medium guns. I hear the Proteus can mount a scary armor tank (for now) and has smaller guns that are better-suited to anti-frig work as well as lots and lots of well-bonused drones of its own. Fit TC IIs where your webs used to go and script them for tracking. If you must, have one or two of your Paladins fit Dual Heavy Pulse IIs instead of Mega Pulses. If you simply must use drones, then consider replacing your Hob IIs with Hammerhead IIs and restricting their use to close-range frigates where you can pull them back quickly once they start taking aggro.

I don't know about you, Dinsdale, but I find it somewhat difficult to lose a Hob II unless I'm not watching rat aggro or drone damage properly. Granted that Incursion rats hate drones somewhat more than other K-space rats, but this is why I said elsewhere that you may need to consider adding better anti-frigate capabilities to your fleet.

You're trying to shoehorn what is essentially a new ship into an old flying technique and it isn't going to work as well as you want it to.

Bring ships with medium guns. I hear the Proteus can mount a scary armor tank (for now) and has smaller guns that are better-suited to anti-frig work as well as lots and lots of well-bonused drones of its own. Fit TC IIs where your webs used to go and script them for tracking. If you must, have one or two of your Paladins fit Dual Heavy Pulse IIs instead of Mega Pulses. If you simply must use drones, then consider replacing your Hob IIs with Hammerhead IIs and restricting their use to close-range frigates where you can pull them back quickly once they start taking aggro.

So far, what I can see based on the actual testing of those ships, is that the Bastion mode is good, but that the hulls were most likely nerfed a bit too much.

I agree with the drone flexibility - while I don't see them necessarily keep the TQ bandwidth, they can use moar dronebay.

Also considering reverting some of the other hull nerfs, will let you know when we have more details (we aren't going to change their role though). And sorry to say, but version 2 with web bonuses is not coming back, it just didn't fit that well with the role and Bastion mode.

What is the point of a larger bay, which just means more small drones fed to the NPC AI.
Now, if you are talking a larger bay, AND Bandwidth, so we can fit sentries, like we do now, then that is different.

I agree with the drone flexibility - while I don't see them necessarily keep the TQ bandwidth, they can use moar dronebay.

And sorry to say, but version 2 with web bonuses is not coming back, it just didn't fit that well with the role and Bastion mode.

>Can't kill small things with his own guns without webs.

>Wants to use sentries.