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Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:00:00 -
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I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter.
I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0
I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this? |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels
Fidelas Constans
1499
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:05:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter. I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0 I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?
Nope ,and your also not the only one on the forums who is not playing the game yet stating wich direction it should take.
There is more then enough sub-cap pvp to be had all over eve , allways has and allways will.There is a current lack of blobstlye F1 pressing going on though so i am assuming you want that ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3787
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:05:00 -
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Yet more shilling of mitten's ad farm.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Niec Mogul
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:06:00 -
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You could always log in and make "something" happen. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3499
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:09:00 -
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Log in to what?
My browser remembers the forum login so I can troll all day. That's the only login, right? If you don't log in, how can you post?
Is there another login somewhere?
And what's all this talk about "undocking" and flying space ships?
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
The Cursed Few
93
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:09:00 -
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Niec Mogul wrote:You could always log in and make "something" happen.
This. You're complaining that nothing is happening yet you're expecting everyone else to make something happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoavH8xbrPE |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:10:00 -
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Niec Mogul wrote:You could always log in and make "something" happen.
But why would I? There are no stakes, nothing of value to conquer or own. Player vs. AI is boring to me. As I stated in this thread here, something needs to change and the course of development cycles doesnt make it seem likely.
Highsec gets stuff, Wormholes get stuff, ships get rebalanced but the biggest conflict driver in EVE history gets ignored  |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels
Fidelas Constans
1499
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:20:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Niec Mogul wrote:You could always log in and make "something" happen. But why would I? There are no stakes, nothing of value to conquer or own. Player vs. AI is boring to me. As I stated in this thread here, something needs to change and the course of development cycles doesnt make it seem likely. Highsec gets stuff, Wormholes get stuff, ships get rebalanced but the biggest conflict driver in EVE history gets ignored
Why do i get the impression your just a blob press F1 follower ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
889
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:21:00 -
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Only reason I dont log in is because the leprechaun under my bed says he will cut off my weener in my sleep if I do. :(
Luckily for me, he doesnt know about forums!
BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:30:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Why do i get the impression your just a blob press F1 follower ?
Actually I have done small gang roaming, solo bubble camping, blops drops, hotdrops, medium gang roaming and big blob F1. All of these require effort in actually finding a fight/victim and can take upwards of 2-3 hours to even find a single hostile that isnt a renter.
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Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:34:00 -
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So I'm imagining things, that article is waay off and making 0.0 safer with yurts and mobile cyno jammers and letting people steal your already terrible alliance income is a good thing? Who makes these development decisions?? |
Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
128
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:36:00 -
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Sorry but, if you keep paying,
it doesn't matter if you log in or not.
Yes, this of course counts using PLEX as paying too. |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
793
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:46:00 -
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one more "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"!
btw: your stuff? |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:59:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:one more "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"!
btw: your stuff?
No its more like CCP doesnt provide ways and reasons for players to create content.
Who is going to conquer these 272 systems and why would they?
Or these 171 systems?
Or these 88 systems?
The state of content generation currently is waiting for entropy, that means- waiting for people/organizations to go through attrition 'people quitting/going afk/inactive' like me. |
Rengerel en Distel
2003
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:05:00 -
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Wait, if 0.0 is getting safe, how are they stealing your alliance income?
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:12:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Wait, if 0.0 is getting safe, how are they stealing your alliance income?
Ok siphons arent ever gonna be a thing. Ratters and botters wont use mobile jammers to protect their ratting carriers and ninja plexers/scanners/explorers wont use yurts and/or jammers to carry out their activities more safely.
0.0 is thriving and vibrant with new blood and fresh alliances being introduced everyday and ripe with conflict and pvp? Half of it isnt actually rented out, supercaps and their proliferation isnt a problem and sovereignty is fine? Check. |
Rengerel en Distel
2004
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:20:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Wait, if 0.0 is getting safe, how are they stealing your alliance income?
Ok siphons arent ever gonna be a thing. Ratters and botters wont use mobile jammers to protect their ratting carriers and ninja plexers/scanners/explorers wont use yurts and/or jammers to carry out their activities more safely. 0.0 is thriving and vibrant with new blood and fresh alliances being introduced everyday and ripe with conflict and pvp? Half of it isnt actually rented out, supercaps and their proliferation isnt a problem and sovereignty is fine? Check.
Do you know if siphons can be targeted by POS guns? No? Me either.
Do you believe that somehow a jammer that extends 100km will really protect anyone when the new interceptors can point 135km?
I believe by "yurt" you mean the new depots? Those things that will be able to be scanned down, so you know exactly where they're going to be flying to?
It seems while decrying nothing to do, you also don't want to have to put any effort into checking on your POS, or scanning down your own systems, or roaming around to secure it. It's much easier to complain on the forums about nothing to do, than log in and take the initiative to do it.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:24:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:It seems while decrying nothing to do, you also don't want to have to put any effort into checking on your POS, or scanning down your own systems, or roaming around to secure it. It's much easier to complain on the forums about nothing to do, than log in and take the initiative to do it
I'm not complaining. I'm trying to have a general discussion about the state of the game. I stated my opinion and others put theirs forth. Its called a discussion.
As far as initiative goes: entire swathes of space are conquered and then rented (they have no value except mindless PVE) out while their masters go afk and unsub, how can this possibly be good game design?
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
394
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:44:00 -
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I wonder if this is something that can be fixed with game mechanics or if this is how the mechanics of empires rising in general (even outside of eve) works. If it's the later, then there is probably nothing CCP can do and the next phase is the stagnation of the current empires until they are so weakened that new powers will take over because they will still have that incentive to rise to power and greatness.
But what do I know, I'm just a sad wormhole dweller who is excited every day what new dump or frightening neighbors the wormhole gods may connect me with. It does not make the news, but at least it's fun. |
Winter Archipelago
Innocuous Infection
130
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:45:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:All of these require effort in actually finding a fight/victim and can take upwards of 2-3 hours to even find a single hostile that isnt a renter.
Sounds more like an alliance-related issue of having too many blues.
Leigh Akiga wrote:
No its more like CCP doesnt provide ways and reasons for players to create content.
CCP are not the ones setting up all the blues you're surrounded by.
Leigh Akiga wrote:As far as initiative goes: entire swathes of space are conquered and then rented (they have no value except mindless PVE) out while their masters go afk and unsub, how can this possibly be good game design?
And again, that sounds more like a problem with your group having too many blues.
I think we've figured out what the problem is, here: you're a person who wants the safety of being surrounded with blues, but you also want the excitement of PvP. These two situations tend to be mutually exclusive unless you're willing to go outside of your own personal comfort zone and create the content you feel is lacking.
Put more simply, the problem is with you and how your group plays the game, and is not with the game itself.
Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Ships, Mods, and Dolls. |
Bruce Kemp
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
58
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:47:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter. I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0 I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?
So you are saying nothing happens in EVE unless you log in?.......lol.......O.K
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Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
230
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:49:00 -
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Bruce Kemp wrote:So you are saying nothing happens in EVE unless you log in?.......lol.......O.K
No, I said I'm trying to have a discussion. I want someone to say: "You're wrong and this is why.."
Or: "You know what, you're right!" And this is what I think would fix it.."
You know- a discussion rather than random trolling |
Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr
Nulli Secunda
114
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:52:00 -
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Hopefully CCP has an ace up their sleeve for us. Somewhere.... maybe in 2027.... they will come up with something.
Meanwhile...yeah...I share your feelings! |
Rengerel en Distel
2004
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:56:00 -
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Telling you to post with your main would be random trolling, poking holes in your arguments is not.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
827
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:59:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter. I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0 I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?
yea nullsec is boring because of boring CFC members
agree
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Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
230
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:03:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Telling you to post with your main would be random trolling, poking holes in your arguments is not.
Poke some more holes please.
And posting with my main would cause 50% off forum viewers to ignore/discredit my post simply because of my alliance tag- Like Mr. Forever here |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:12:00 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:All of these require effort in actually finding a fight/victim and can take upwards of 2-3 hours to even find a single hostile that isnt a renter.
Sounds more like an alliance-related issue of having too many blues.
Reset all personal contacts.
Reset all corp contacts.
Reset all alliance contacts.
Endless hours of fun. Shoot everything! 
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
3012
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:24:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter. I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0 I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?
Everyone's idea of what constitutes "something to do" is different. Sometimes I sit at home away from my computer and think "omg, their are blood raider NPC battships just infesting Delve, someone better do something about that"!. So I log in and rat, but they keep respawning!
My favorite saying about EVE is : "EVE is a sandbox, if your not having fun, it's not the sand's fault".
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Anomaly One
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:25:00 -
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this is mainly about null right? well no one is creating content because most are too lazy and just wait for their "leaders" to create it for them and if they don't, they don't even bother coming into game (the pawns) this is why every other game is instanced because the companies know most don't bother creating content they just wanna mindlessly do it. Now look at harry forever he was trying to create content in taht giant thread about attacking null sec just for lulz, but who joined him really? most thought "wow that would be awesome" and just went back to mining or missions saying what's the point.. and others just mocked him.. the only thing that's gonna happen in the next couple of years is this
Karak Terrel wrote: .. the next phase is the stagnation of the current empires until they are so weakened that new powers will take over because they will still have that incentive to rise to power and greatness.
Just like how a miner says he wont go afk and then months after he will dozy off and make that mistake same will happen to empires when they get too safe, eventually..
things do happen, just like how action happens in wormholes, low sec, high sec.. but no one hears about these regions it's always null that makes the news mostly.
How about your alliance joins AMAR FW and maybe get them to T5... |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
1240
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Posted - 2013.10.09 18:27:00 -
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The article and the OP's issue are a load of B.S. If you have nothing to do, blame your corporation, your alliance, not the game devs. Right now I wish I had more than one combat-trained character, because there is action going on in three different places and I can't be everywhere at once to enjoy it.
The content is there, you (your corp/your alliance) just suck at finding it / creating it. |
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