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Xune	Posted - 2006.02.07 19:06:00 - [331] o please make it stop >_< close the forum and get back ingame... im bored
Sapater	Posted - 2006.02.07 19:08:00 - [332] Uhh, WHY OH WHY do teh 'he said- she said' crap about WHY the war started in the first place keep commming up?? SA and FIX fought a bloody war. SA took FAT and Catch with Huzzah. Then SA wanted everything and in the process **ed off BOB. Someone you dont ** off. Then FIX, with a merc they hired retook FAT. And Now SA is going to die, wether it be on the battlefield or docked in NPC stations for days/weeks. The past is done with. And the future looks bright..well, not for SA really. But that will be another story for another post.
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2006.02.07 19:36:00 - [333] Avernus, first of all, very cool name. Sounds... 'Hellish'. Your post is actually very, very good. We scale our payments according to the "hardness" of a target or what the client expects of us. In some cases, our rates vary from week to week for even the same client depending on thier goals. As to BoB - I've made this point in the past which is that we have never been offered a serious contract on BoB. Not once. By serious, I mean someone with concrete goals, a plan that uses us to our potential and the ISK to back it up. Up until recently, the same question with regard to, "Why hasn't MC ever attacked [5]?" kept coming up. When a client with an agenda, realistic expectations and a good wallet showed up, we took the job. The problem is this: the MC is still a small organization. We are the shock troops / Marine Corps of EVE. That's how we model ourselves and sell. We always make this very clear to any client - we can do a lot for you, we might even be able to tip the balance in a greater conflict, we can go in and do a hell of a lot of damage against a target, but we aren't an occupation army or an after-war police force. Bottom line: if someone wants the MC to hit BoB, you had better have a serious wallet and a serious plan. To be quite honest, with the number of offers we get, I'm not wasting our time on a contract with no other goal than to "kill a lot of them" when we have other options with much clearer goals and definative results. Almost got reaching for my wallet in rl ;P
MrTriggerHappy	Posted - 2006.02.07 19:53:00 - [334] Originally by: Sapater SA and FIX fought a bloody war. SA took FAT and Catch with Huzzah. Then SA wanted everything and in the process **ed off BOB. Someone you dont ** off. Then FIX, with a merc they hired retook FAT. And Now SA is going to die, wether it be on the battlefield or docked in NPC stations for days/weeks. I thought we were already dead
Randay	Posted - 2006.02.07 20:06:00 - [335] is this a joke thread or something? ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2006.02.07 20:07:00 - [336] Originally by: Macsine blah blah megri this megri that The X13 war you can check both on eve-o and on their own boards. blah blah megri this megri that X13 where shooting as SA as well n declared war to SA after their FIX thing. Whats ur point? or is it drawing ppls attention from the bellow statement? Originally by: Wizie Originally by: CopeLand Originally by: Eyeshadow is of little consequence and the contract was already negotiated days before SA commited suicide and declared on BOB. now for those interested in the subject, and have bothered to read through all the usual flaming, trolling and abuse.. and are infact interested in facts.. especially me and some individuals earlier in this thread talking about intelligence reports this quite clearly must be the quote of the year Or claim of the year. Anyhow expecting SA to engage in FAT with a large fleet was silly from the get go. With the number of entities fighting SA in that area, it would have been a nightmare to move a fleet of any decent size around. Or even more so to reinforce it. The roaming BOB fleets would have made sure of that. Exuro and the FIX alt ASUYA and lot. Instead it seems the MC like any other entity are unhappy that they might have to work at getting fights. Yay for npc stations in 0.0 Just glad that BOB havent sent a gigantic fleet down to do the same. They either don't care to beat down on an already outnumbered foe or know that bringing a capitalship/BS fleet would do little but frustrate the pilots flying them. So we have : 1. FIX or BOB hired MC - Obvious or not. 2. MC(Seline n Eyshadow) had been contracted b4 Stain decleared on BOB and therefore during or b4 negotiations. 3. BOB(Molle) said that BOB dint hire MC. So either someone is lying, and I wouldnt bet BOB lying on this matter, or FIX was plotting during negotiations. Politics 4tw . Do u wanna play the name n same game again? So Far So Good....So What
USN CVN73	Posted - 2006.02.07 20:16:00 - [337] all southern entities should work toward common goals. be united and be strong because frankly when the new servers come up and if there is improvement in the fleet operations standpoint of warfare things on the eve map will be changing very fast. if the entire southern region continues to fight and continue to be unstable than there wont be any forward progress especially when the time comes were friends and allys become critical again... we all know its going to happen. once the servers are more stable all this nonsense will end and real warfare and conquering will begin like eve is ment to be played. I know i type lots of crazy ideas that people love to make fun of me and tell me to stay in my cage and keep my mouth shut but lets look at the big picture. Who has the most to gain in all of this? who has the most to lose in all of this if the south stays unstable? I know that as long as the sourthern region is fighting among each other somone elses entity or entities are gaining building and preparing... Go ahead flame away im used to it... USN CVN72 USN CVN73 USN CVN74 Proud Member of SA
FrioBebe	Posted - 2006.02.07 20:16:00 - [338] Originally by: BlackRain Then I continued to point out that playing forum detective and making conclusions based on what people type on these forums is a bit silly - and even counterproductive when the poster himself said that "you can't believe what people write on these forums". Then, enter FrioBebe and incoherent rambling... I mean seriously, wtf are you talking about? That rambling sounds more like some freshman philosophy student on mushrooms. As you can not answer my questions, neither understand what im trying to ask you to clearify, its going nowhere. So yes i will stop. Your right im wrong. However, to adress your worries about me taking higher education in philosophy and eating unhealthy. I can calm your mind and let you know im not. Bye..
Xantina	Posted - 2006.02.07 20:33:00 - [339] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx X13 where shooting as SA as well n declared war to SA after their FIX thing. Maybe somebody forgot to pay the bills ?
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2006.02.07 20:43:00 - [340] Originally by: Xantina Originally by: Destroyer Draxx X13 where shooting as SA as well n declared war to SA after their FIX thing. Maybe somebody forgot to pay the bills ? Maybe ,hmmmm not So Far So Good....So What

Loftur sterki	Posted - 2006.02.07 21:19:00 - [341] ***** THE END ******
Megri	Posted - 2006.02.07 21:33:00 - [342] Originally by: Macsine Ok so can I summarize that you learned some things you didn't know before? Like things SA leadership didn't think the grunts need to know ? The Megri incident is here on the boards as well as a thread by Megri himself when he tried to get people to add to his bounty so it became worth collecting on himself in order to get rid of it - of course that was before clone jumps and leaving implants behind. There are also some reasonably dirty remarks around regarding Megri's sheltering by SA, or if you have an alt spy in fix just check their forums there is a fairly lengthy thread about Megri and his new - or not so new ? - friends in SA. The border incidents and alteration of standings are common knowledge (each party to their own interpretation). The X13 war you can check both on eve-o and on their own boards. The FAT campaign should be well-known to all SA. So where was I incorrect in regard of chain of events ? You might not be happy with my wording but it all happened, right then, and it's all here if you care to check. That's a mighty big pile of coincidence and absolutely noone in fix would believe any claims that this wasn't a campaign against fix that was prepared for a long time: the attempt to split fix like in the SE/SA war, Megri's flight into SA space - not a good choice, running to our allies after backstabbing his own alliance, unless... The merc war, timed against SA pushing into fix space. SA allies coming in on the side of SA practically from day 1. The supply of capital ships and poses being ready to be thrown against us. As I said that's a big pile for being mere coincidence. But if - I said IF Megri wasn't your guy in the beginning - then SA paid helluva price for sheltering a turncoat. I would love to read the work of art FIX wrote about me in the forums, post it please...
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.02.07 23:14:00 - [343] Originally by: USN CVN73 all southern entities should work toward common goals. be united and be strong because frankly when the new servers come up and if there is improvement in the fleet operations standpoint of warfare things on the eve map will be changing very fast. if the entire southern region continues to fight and continue to be unstable than there wont be any forward progress especially when the time comes were friends and allys become critical again... we all know its going to happen. once the servers are more stable all this nonsense will end and real warfare and conquering will begin like eve is ment to be played. I know i type lots of crazy ideas that people love to make fun of me and tell me to stay in my cage and keep my mouth shut but lets look at the big picture. Who has the most to gain in all of this? who has the most to lose in all of this if the south stays unstable? I know that as long as the sourthern region is fighting among each other somone elses entity or entities are gaining building and preparing... Go ahead flame away im used to it... USN CVN72 USN CVN73 USN CVN74 Proud Member of SA Your alliance just got offered that on a plate and your leaders turned it down. Now when the south unites and is strong where are you guys going to be sat? Eve Blacklight Style
CopeLand	Posted - 2006.02.07 23:50:00 - [344] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: USN CVN73 all southern entities should work toward common goals. be united and be strong because frankly when the new servers come up and if there is improvement in the fleet operations standpoint of warfare things on the eve map will be changing very fast. if the entire southern region continues to fight and continue to be unstable than there wont be any forward progress especially when the time comes were friends and allys become critical again... we all know its going to happen. once the servers are more stable all this nonsense will end and real warfare and conquering will begin like eve is ment to be played. I know i type lots of crazy ideas that people love to make fun of me and tell me to stay in my cage and keep my mouth shut but lets look at the big picture. Who has the most to gain in all of this? who has the most to lose in all of this if the south stays unstable? I know that as long as the sourthern region is fighting among each other somone elses entity or entities are gaining building and preparing... Go ahead flame away im used to it... USN CVN72 USN CVN73 USN CVN74 Proud Member of SA Your alliance just got offered that on a plate and your leaders turned it down. Now when the south unites and is strong where are you guys going to be sat? ye we got that offered on a plate the day fix(feeling*****y and bold) made us kos due to lack of targets(boredome) after iron/g left and made up some excuse over it like trespassing or friendlyfire and then the newest one involving some guy no one knows i can only assume this was left alone by those protecting the idea of united south simply cause sa is as we all know dead sounds like a real united south to me
Xelios	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:03:00 - [345] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: USN CVN73 all southern entities should work toward common goals. be united and be strong because frankly when the new servers come up and if there is improvement in the fleet operations standpoint of warfare things on the eve map will be changing very fast. if the entire southern region continues to fight and continue to be unstable than there wont be any forward progress especially when the time comes were friends and allys become critical again... we all know its going to happen. once the servers are more stable all this nonsense will end and real warfare and conquering will begin like eve is ment to be played. I know i type lots of crazy ideas that people love to make fun of me and tell me to stay in my cage and keep my mouth shut but lets look at the big picture. Who has the most to gain in all of this? who has the most to lose in all of this if the south stays unstable? I know that as long as the sourthern region is fighting among each other somone elses entity or entities are gaining building and preparing... Go ahead flame away im used to it... USN CVN72 USN CVN73 USN CVN74 Proud Member of SA Your alliance just got offered that on a plate and your leaders turned it down. Now when the south unites and is strong where are you guys going to be sat? Please, it was exactly the same thing we were offered last time FIX invaded FAT. We took it back then on good faith in this whole southern stability idea (and trust me it took a lot of convincing internally, especially after FIX posted the 'agreement') but look where that got us, dealing with another invasion by FIX. Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected]) Woot.
Sceartan	Posted - 2006.02.08 00:54:00 - [346] Stain Alliance's stance on FAT was quite simple. Retake it from an enemy that fortified the system quite strongly. An enemy with multiple POS, ship & item supplies in the station and a very capable PvP force present (FoFF & Band of Builders). After it was retaken, it was to be provided to another alliance for management and control. SA does not want conquerable stations, they inevitably create POS wars which are counter-productive to the alliance objectives, ie: it's boring and we just want to have fun. Yes it took 4 weeks (not 1.5 months) as our first engagment with FIX set off on the 2nd of Janurary. We had a tough enemy to beat. Every enemy ship destroyed resulted in a replacement undocking from the station and jumping back into the fight (much respect). The first operation was to secure the space and once we felt that task was performed, we brought in our own POS & Dreads (glorified indys) to reclaim soverignity and eventually, retake the station. This was performed within schedule and was a tough job by all. Not only did we contend with fleets of 50+ in size attacking us, there was also the CCP uber weapon Large Artillery Ganker (lag) causing problems as well. Our decision not to protect FAT during the MC/FIX invasion was a decision based on common sense. I was in FAT during the retake and with 100+ hostiles (easily), SA would not be able to organise a fleet within the short time frame. It would have been a suicide run and quite frankly, we'd rather use our ships fighting for our space at the moment since everyone is here to greet us "hello" at the door. I hope that clears some confusion and we can all get back to the matter of flaming each other about other aspects.
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:09:00 - [347] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Originally by: Macsine blah blah megri this megri that The X13 war you can check both on eve-o and on their own boards. blah blah megri this megri that X13 where shooting as SA as well n declared war to SA after their FIX thing. Whats ur point? I'd like to know as well. p - l - u - r My first vid
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:53:00 - [348] So let me get this straight... SA is at war with BoB because a politically inept guy called Orc A thought overruling triggers deal with shrike as a good idea.. This world never seizes to amaze me :) ________________________________________
Reiken Moisark	Posted - 2006.02.08 01:59:00 - [349] After careful consideration I have decided to retract my previous statements that Orc A "should not have been in a position of authority within SA." These statements were ill-advised and NOT based on factual evidence. Our research department has compiled and reviewed each and every post made by SA members during the course of their most recent conflict(s). With this new and intriguing information in hand we have reached the following conclusion: Orc A is, in fact, the most intelligent and politically adept member in SA (aside from Scertain who, although we cannot confirm this, is said to actually be a logic droid created by the Amarr so we through out his posts as they were skewing the average). Orc A is by far the most qualified in SA for the position he holds and as such is undeserving outside scrutiny. It is believed (again, not provable as of yet) that Orc A's intellect far exceeds that of the average SA member (initial studies were inconclusive but showed that Orc A possesed an intellect roughly 3,000% higher). It was initially believed that Orc A was inept intentionally or underqualified. It appears now, however, that among his peers Orc A was to be commended. We apologize to Orc A for any hardship experienced as a result of our misconceptions. In effect, we feel that we have punished him for exceeding the average among his peers and this was not our intention. Using this new research and a hunch that there's just something odd in the water in their native region we have just received a grant from the Gallente government which will allow us to investigate this apparent lack of intellectual evolution in the Stain proper region. Early reports show that the average evolutionary intellect of residents is well below the average of the rest of the universe, causing concern and leading to some extremists to demand that the region be shut down and burned to the ground, citing a quote from an anonymous researcher which compared the residents to "mindless zombies." Results of the testing will be posted when they are available.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.02.08 02:55:00 - [350] You guys simply destroy your own fun with this "unified south" crap. I can tell you that from our own experience. Well, lets see if the hardware upgrades make any bigger fleet actions possible and LOTS of things will change. And maybe not the way you expected it to... -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P

Sceartan	Posted - 2006.02.08 04:06:00 - [351] Originally by: Reiken Moisark Edited by: Reiken Moisark on 08/02/2006 02:02:26 (aside from Sceartan who, although we cannot confirm this, is said to actually be a logic droid created by the Amarr so we threw out his posts as they were skewing the average). I'm always skewing something around here.. Shish-kebabs & posts is what I meant you dirty minded buggers
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2006.02.08 06:03:00 - [352] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: USN CVN73 all southern entities should work toward common goals. be united and be strong because frankly when the new servers come up and if there is improvement in the fleet operations standpoint of warfare things on the eve map will be changing very fast. if the entire southern region continues to fight and continue to be unstable than there wont be any forward progress especially when the time comes were friends and allys become critical again... we all know its going to happen. once the servers are more stable all this nonsense will end and real warfare and conquering will begin like eve is ment to be played. I know i type lots of crazy ideas that people love to make fun of me and tell me to stay in my cage and keep my mouth shut but lets look at the big picture. Who has the most to gain in all of this? who has the most to lose in all of this if the south stays unstable? I know that as long as the sourthern region is fighting among each other somone elses entity or entities are gaining building and preparing... Go ahead flame away im used to it... USN CVN72 USN CVN73 USN CVN74 Proud Member of SA Your alliance just got offered that on a plate and your leaders turned it down. Now when the south unites and is strong where are you guys going to be sat? So Far So Good....So What
Macsine	Posted - 2006.02.08 08:14:00 - [353] Originally by: Xelios Please, it was exactly the same thing we were offered last time FIX invaded FAT. We took it back then on good faith in this whole southern stability idea (and trust me it took a lot of convincing internally, especially after FIX posted the 'agreement') but look where that got us, dealing with another invasion by FIX. So you're saying that after this Bull: Originally by: Orc A Howdy. Fix has rejected the surrender terms being given by us and we will now proceed into illiminating thier alliance into ashes untill they kindlly agree to the terms in quetion. Have a nice day-cycle. Orc A, on behalf of The SA. ...you expected FIX to stay out of FAT ? Perhaps you forgot - but FIX staying out of FAT was part of the ceasefire agreement that also included SA staying out of Querious. SA didn't, Orc A mistook a ceasefire for a surrender, and at least parts of SA mistook winning the FAT battle for winning the war. Orc called off the ceasefire - hence the war continues. FIX & allies took back FAT. SA had their chance keeping FAT but decided war against FIX was more important. So stop pretending FIX violated any agreements - Orc A called them off. Ask Huzzah - we had at least 1 Huzzah pilot jumping into FAT last weekend where he was flying around between the ships of our blockade forces, and nobody fired on him because FIX honors the ceasefire agreement with Huzzah and vice versa.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.08 09:42:00 - [354] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 08/02/2006 06:07:13 Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: USN CVN73 all southern entities should work toward common goals. be united and be strong because frankly when the new servers come up and if there is improvement in the fleet operations standpoint of warfare things on the eve map will be changing very fast. if the entire southern region continues to fight and continue to be unstable than there wont be any forward progress especially when the time comes were friends and allys become critical again... we all know its going to happen. once the servers are more stable all this nonsense will end and real warfare and conquering will begin like eve is ment to be played. I know i type lots of crazy ideas that people love to make fun of me and tell me to stay in my cage and keep my mouth shut but lets look at the big picture. Who has the most to gain in all of this? who has the most to lose in all of this if the south stays unstable? I know that as long as the sourthern region is fighting among each other somone elses entity or entities are gaining building and preparing... Go ahead flame away im used to it... USN CVN72 USN CVN73 USN CVN74 Proud Member of SA Your alliance just got offered that on a plate and your leaders turned it down. Now when the south unites and is strong where are you guys going to be sat? And while Stain was offered that on a plate, someone on the table of the negotiations was already hiring mercs to shoot us. Stable south 4tw. Perhaps if you had a reputation for keeping to your word such preparations wouldn't be required? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Mitch Taylor	Posted - 2006.02.08 10:39:00 - [355] Originally by: Reiken Moisark Edited by: Reiken Moisark on 08/02/2006 02:02:26 After careful consideration I have decided to retract my previous statements that Orc A "should not have been in a position of authority within SA." These statements were ill-advised and NOT based on factual evidence. Our research department has compiled and reviewed each and every post made by SA members during the course of their most recent conflict(s). With this new and intriguing information in hand we have reached the following conclusion: Orc A is, in fact, the most intelligent and politically adept member in SA (aside from Sceartan who, although we cannot confirm this, is said to actually be a logic droid created by the Amarr so we threw out his posts as they were skewing the average). Orc A is by far the most qualified in SA for the position he holds and as such is undeserving outside scrutiny. It is believed (again, not provable as of yet) that Orc A's intellect far exceeds that of the average SA member (initial studies were inconclusive but showed that Orc A possesed an intellect roughly 3,000% higher). It was initially believed that Orc A was inept intentionally or underqualified. It appears now, however, that among his peers Orc A was to be commended. We apologize to Orc A for any hardship experienced as a result of our misconceptions. In effect, we feel that we have punished him for exceeding the average among his peers and this was not our intention. While Orc A may not meet the standard set forth by the rest of the universe he well exceeds the average SA member and as such should represent them to the rest of the universe. Using this new research and a hunch that there's just something odd in the water in their native region we have just received a grant from the Gallente government which will allow us to investigate this apparent lack of intellectual evolution in the Stain proper region. Early reports show that the average evolutionary intellect of residents is well below the average of the rest of the universe, causing concern and leading to some extremists to demand that the region be shut down and burned to the ground, citing a quote from an anonymous researcher which compared the residents to "mindless zombies." Results of the testing will be posted when they are available. i like him... /emote waves at an old soldier
Wizardpete Draconis	Posted - 2006.02.08 11:10:00 - [356] Originally by: Sceartan there was also the CCP uber weapon Large Artillery Ganker (lag) causing problems as well. Nice one ___________________________________ Wizardpete Draconis Warlords Inc. CFO
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2006.02.08 12:26:00 - [357] Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 08/02/2006 12:27:51 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 08/02/2006 06:07:13 And while Stain was offered that on a plate, someone on the table of the negotiations was already hiring mercs to shoot us. Stable south 4tw. Perhaps if you had a reputation for keeping to your word such preparations wouldn't be required? So u are saying that u or FIX broke ur word b4 we did, because we have a bad reputation at keeping ours? Convienient excuse. But it only means that on this occasion we had good reason not to keep our word. N for the record FIX shot us just 5 mins after the ceasefire (Mass-dantes). U were saying something about keeping ur word? By the way when did we break our word in the past? If u are refering just on the FIX latest war pls provide me the link to the FIX surrender post (not ceasefire one) promised to us. U still believe we break our word more often than others do? So Far So Good....So What
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.02.08 12:42:00 - [358] Quote: reason not to keep our word. N for the record FIX shot us just 5 mins after the ceasefire (Mass-dantes). U were saying something about keeping ur word This much is most definatley true, i had just left LGK on route to H74 when i see in alliance chat that their is now a cease fire, so i read the alliance mail myself and see with great dissapointment that this is true...so upon doing my next jump seeing 2 people in local with me and 2 blue squares near the gate i decide to change my waypoint, so i open the map to cancel h74 and head to agil to pick up some gear...when i notice i am been fired upon..closing the map i see the 2 blue FIX pilots shooting at me...i tried to FRAPS this but had a brown out at the time..by time i got back on i was in my clone station.(the kill mail is more than enough proof for those who actualy know the timing of the events..) So please before acusing us of breaking our word take into account 1) FIX broke the original Ceasefire 2) FIX also had been hiering mercs before the talks broke down... dosent seem like they were overly interested in peace..just to drag in enough people to tak fat back and save their necks..a job well done on FIX part...and i would love to know exactly how we achived this untrustowrthy rep? as i cant remember a single occasion that we broke our word _____ This is a Stain Alliance Fighter. It is protecting the assets of Stain Alliance, and may attack anyone it perceives as a threat, Threat Level: Trigglarist Fundermentalist
Macsine	Posted - 2006.02.08 14:15:00 - [359] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 08/02/2006 12:27:51 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 08/02/2006 06:07:13 And while Stain was offered that on a plate, someone on the table of the negotiations was already hiring mercs to shoot us. Stable south 4tw. Perhaps if you had a reputation for keeping to your word such preparations wouldn't be required? So u are saying that u or FIX broke ur word b4 we did, because we have a bad reputation at keeping ours? Convienient excuse. But it only means that on this occasion we had good reason not to keep our word. N for the record FIX shot us just 5 mins after the ceasefire (Mass-dantes). U were saying something about keeping ur word? By the way when did we break our word in the past? If u are refering just on the FIX latest war pls provide me the link to the FIX surrender post (not ceasefire one) promised to us. U still believe we break our word more often than others do? Originally by: dantes inferno blabla All of you seem to conveniently "forget" to mention that with RMR sovereignity change should take place 5 days after having more POSes. This is officially bugged (appealed with GM, the reply was that it's being looked into but at this time there was nothing he could do). So when FoFF took their posses out Sovereignity changed after 1 DT instead of after 5 days as anticipated. It should be pretty obvious that the genuine deal was brokered while FAT was still under siege by SA, so reactivating it when SA called off the ceasefire (don't contradict your chief diplomat's version with a badly concealed lie about being shot by FIX) was pretty much the logical thing to do. I know as a fact that in at least 2 cases FIX suffered the destruction of their ships without even shooting back in order not to endanger the ceasefire. So much for your stories about FIX shooting first. Why don't you make one about the SA fleet charging after some BoB raiders in hot pursuit then being wrongfully waylaid in BoB space while you thought there was peace ? Would make as good a bedtime story as this continous babbling about SA having been attacked by FIX when it was SA who invaded in the first place.
Crusher166	Posted - 2006.02.08 14:27:00 - [360] Originally by: Macsine Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 08/02/2006 12:27:51 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Edited by: Destroyer Draxx on 08/02/2006 06:07:13 And while Stain was offered that on a plate, someone on the table of the negotiations was already hiring mercs to shoot us. Stable south 4tw. Perhaps if you had a reputation for keeping to your word such preparations wouldn't be required? So u are saying that u or FIX broke ur word b4 we did, because we have a bad reputation at keeping ours? Convienient excuse. But it only means that on this occasion we had good reason not to keep our word. N for the record FIX shot us just 5 mins after the ceasefire (Mass-dantes). U were saying something about keeping ur word? By the way when did we break our word in the past? If u are refering just on the FIX latest war pls provide me the link to the FIX surrender post (not ceasefire one) promised to us. U still believe we break our word more often than others do? Originally by: dantes inferno blabla All of you seem to conveniently "forget" to mention that with RMR sovereignity change should take place 5 days after having more POSes. This is officially bugged (appealed with GM, the reply was that it's being looked into but at this time there was nothing he could do). So when FoFF took their posses out Sovereignity changed after 1 DT instead of after 5 days as anticipated. It should be pretty obvious that the genuine deal was brokered while FAT was still under siege by SA, so reactivating it when SA called off the ceasefire (don't contradict your chief diplomat's version with a badly concealed lie about being shot by FIX) was pretty much the logical thing to do. I know as a fact that in at least 2 cases FIX suffered the destruction of their ships without even shooting back in order not to endanger the ceasefire. So much for your stories about FIX shooting first. Why don't you make one about the SA fleet charging after some BoB raiders in hot pursuit then being wrongfully waylaid in BoB space while you thought there was peace ? Would make as good a bedtime story as this continous babbling about SA having been attacked by FIX when it was SA who invaded in the first place. Have you concidered the many vegetables that may be displaced due to this war? We're not mad, just misunderstood - Udat huh? - Imaran hello, this is not really eris rwarr



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