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Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.06 23:38:00 - [241] Originally by: JerrySpringer Originally by: Gronsak < MC neutral? > Don't be fooled, MC and BoB are +++ standing, enough said. MC never took contract on any BoB aligned organization. hahahahaha HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA So, ASCN, nor Five, are our friends? orly? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
JerrySpringer	Posted - 2006.02.06 23:42:00 - [242] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: JerrySpringer Originally by: Gronsak < MC neutral? > Don't be fooled, MC and BoB are +++ standing, enough said. MC never took contract on any BoB aligned organization. hahahahaha HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA So, ASCN, nor Five, are our friends? orly? Yes, maybe aligned is too strong a word. ASCN are simply "useful idiots" (Lenin quote, not a flame towards ASCN) and the 5 can very well fend for themselves.
USN CVN73	Posted - 2006.02.06 23:47:00 - [243] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: USN CVN73 play this game.laugh at some insane thought. the game be Real life . Wont you agree? Forums are supposed to be serious. Damn CNN... just useing your last post as a example of selective quating. lol its funney tbh. usually not that far. but u get what i mean, dont selective quote to put ur point across. I AM NOT A ENGLISH MAJOR... Thank you for the correction!!! But if u want to be critical hehe your spelling is not perfect "useing" hmm. hehe just wanted to be funny! USN
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.02.06 23:53:00 - [244] Edited by: Gronsak on 06/02/2006 23:54:07 Originally by: USN CVN73 Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: USN CVN73 play this game.laugh at some insane thought. the game be Real life . Wont you agree? Forums are supposed to be serious. Damn CNN... just useing your last post as a example of selective quating. lol its funney tbh. usually not that far. but u get what i mean, dont selective quote to put ur point across. I AM NOT A ENGLISH MAJOR... Thank you for the correction!!! But if u want to be critical hehe your spelling is not perfect "useing" hmm. hehe just wanted to be funny! USN wasnt complaing about ur english. or anything about u. just looked for the newest post with was pretty long. to prove a point to some dude which selectively quoted me.
Khaerie	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:19:00 - [245] Thread is too long to read. I just have one question. Who's in charge of Stain? One post (and one news article) says it is Orc A and not to listen to Trigger. Now we have Trigger making announcments again. Did I miss a post elsewhere that now says Trigger is in charge?
Zubenelgenubi	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:33:00 - [246] The CEO's run SA \0/
Creamster	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:38:00 - [247] Originally by: RogerWilco I predict that SE and SA¦s death are comming soon, and that we will see trigger as a EVOL bisch soooon Interesting, so BoB's after SE as well? ___________ If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help.
Orb Lati	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:42:00 - [248] Originally by: Creamster Originally by: RogerWilco I predict that SE and SA¦s death are comming soon, and that we will see trigger as a EVOL bisch soooon Interesting, so BoB's after SE as well? Isnt SA and SE just the different sides of the same coin....only when they're not fighting each other of coarse Now the question becomes when SA starts lossing members will SE start seeing a corresponding increase? "We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible"
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:43:00 - [249] Originally by: JerrySpringer Don't be fooled, MC and BoB are +++ standing, enough said. MC never took contract on any BoB aligned organization. EDIT: let me elaborate a bit: if MC were to be hostile to BoB or their associates, they'd have plenty to lose and little to win. BoB would definitely use that opportunity to kick MC about, and MC couldn't afford the bad press. So BoB keeps MC friendly and MC knows what's good for em. No-one could afford it smart arse. As far as I know, there have only ever been two serious offers to hire MC to hit BoB and one of them was me. All the rest of this tinfoilasshattery is just that, asshattery i.e. amusing but 99% wrong. Eve Blacklight Style
Avernus	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:44:00 - [250] Originally by: Creamster Originally by: RogerWilco I predict that SE and SA¦s death are comming soon, and that we will see trigger as a EVOL bisch soooon Interesting, so BoB's after SE as well? I'd take anything said by others with a grain of salt when it comes to BoB. When the BoB CEOs post, then you know where you stand. That said... I'm not in BoB. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:45:00 - [251] Originally by: Creamster Originally by: RogerWilco I predict that SE and SA¦s death are comming soon, and that we will see trigger as a EVOL bisch soooon Interesting, so BoB's after SE as well? Why what difference does it make to you? You're already -10 to us, your alliance diplomat has managed to alienate the entirety of the rest of the south and now you are clutching at straws by hoping the very people you fell out with last time your alliance destabilised the south are going to help you now or something?? Eve Blacklight Style
USN CVN73	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:48:00 - [252] Originally by: Avernus Originally by: Creamster Originally by: RogerWilco I predict that SE and SA¦s death are comming soon, and that we will see trigger as a EVOL bisch soooon Interesting, so BoB's after SE as well? I'd take anything said by others with a grain of salt when it comes to BoB. When the BoB CEOs post, then you know where you stand. That said... I'm not in BoB. Avernus - thanks dude for making that statement very clear. this is what we need now more than ever. Thanks Avernus. USN
Avernus	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:53:00 - [253] Anytime USN. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Dalilah	Posted - 2006.02.07 00:57:00 - [254] Originally by: RogerWilco I predict that SE and SA¦s death are comming soon... SoonÖ ? I want to see exact terms and ¦ 2-3 years accuracy will be good --- Ohhh... No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.02.07 01:06:00 - [255] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Eyeshadow Originally by: Kantar Good luck Trig and Co. But on a personal note : Why MC as been hired for this war as well ?? I thought the honorable thing to do is sort it out the part involve and keep the rest out of it. Two Alliance v One and involving Merc as well is a bit low, I hope whoever hiried MC will reconsider and bring a clean fight to them. There is a quote that come to mind reading all this : Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. This are my 50 pence. We were hired, in part, for our large capital fleet to destroy hostile POS in FAT-6P. Yesterday we took 6 hostile Large towers into reinforced mode and have finished off 4 as of this moment. The remaining 2 will soon be taken out aswell The empire war is always an accompaniment to one of our contracts and we rarely take a contract without an empire war as that is one of our bigger strengths. The reasons, the whos, the whys etc are of little consequence to us and your definition of honour (i.e. fair fights) does not enter into ours. We are paid to do a job, and a job we will do. Why you consider someone hiring us for a specific job as "a bit low" is beyond me. Someone wanted something to doing. We are here to do it Thanks i would have the greatest repect for the MC if i could believe this. what if insted u got the convo from some guy to be hired to fight bob on SA side. would u guys of taken the contract. if u are truly unbiased and isk dictates your enermys then i take my hat off to the MC. it shows that you are up to fighting anyone, even if greatly outnumbered. but if as i would suspect that you guys get offers to fight both sides yet you pick the easier option [i dont know much about the MC but i would assume this is the case. correct me if i am wrong] then i have no repect for you and u are just as bad as the other band wagon jumpers. Incorrect as much as a post could ever be We accept contracts that have most value to our organisation, we do not accept them on what terms others think we should -------------------------------------------------
Creamster	Posted - 2006.02.07 01:20:00 - [256] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Creamster Originally by: RogerWilco I predict that SE and SA¦s death are comming soon, and that we will see trigger as a EVOL bisch soooon Interesting, so BoB's after SE as well? Why what difference does it make to you? You're already -10 to us, your alliance diplomat has managed to alienate the entirety of the rest of the south and now you are clutching at straws by hoping the very people you fell out with last time your alliance destabilised the south are going to help you now or something?? ... or something. The SE is a very old alliance, lots of things have been done, i can only speak for a post-Cujo SE. And you should too. I don't remember when we tried to destabilize south, we've been on the defensive fighting against SA and few other aggressors since september 05. And that diplomat you're referring to, what's his name? What i see here is you can't even tell the difference between alliances living in stain, what they stand for and what they're doing. But you're all so willing to declare them dead. Oh well you're not the first and won't be the last. ___________ If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help.
Zubenelgenubi	Posted - 2006.02.07 01:36:00 - [257] Quote: What i see here is you can't even tell the difference between alliances living in stain, what they stand for and what they're doing. But you're all so willing to declare them dead. Oh well you're not the first and won't be the last. well said. Lot of people don't know what there talking about in here :)
Bared Bel'Medalt	Posted - 2006.02.07 01:41:00 - [258] Edited by: Bared Bel''Medalt on 07/02/2006 01:44:48 Originally by: Zubenelgenubi Quote: What i see here is you can't even tell the difference between alliances living in stain, what they stand for and what they're doing. But you're all so willing to declare them dead. Oh well you're not the first and won't be the last. well said. Lot of people don't know what there talking about in here :) God damnit, i started a thread to find out what the hell people are talking about here! No one ones what the hell is going on down there but the people involved. Those of us who arent are just curious as all **! Last time I had go round, I was leading a few small fleet ops agaisnt XB down in 4gq for SA... wtf is going on here! I cant take this kind of pressure, its driving em insane. By the way, when engaging some one who both outnumbers and out guns you, dont forget to bring a towel... ****************** Anything posted by this character is purely of my own invention, and does not reflect the views of my corp. In the event that something has anything, I'll post with my main
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.02.07 04:45:00 - [259] Edited by: Recluse XXX on 07/02/2006 04:45:25 Originally by: Gronsak [i dont know much about the MC Atleast you got one thing right in your stupid post.... On another note...its kinda funny to see a bought account that actually have been a member of the MC say that they dont know much about us.... //Rec -------------- Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2006.02.07 04:59:00 - [260] Originally by: Avernus I'd take anything said by others with a grain of salt when it comes to BoB. When the BoB CEOs post, then you know where you stand. Should be in the tutorial to be honest. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Avernus	Posted - 2006.02.07 06:06:00 - [261] Originally by: ProphetGuru Originally by: Avernus I'd take anything said by others with a grain of salt when it comes to BoB. When the BoB CEOs post, then you know where you stand. Should be in the tutorial to be honest. If it was in, many people would tend to skip that section. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Destroyer Draxx	Posted - 2006.02.07 06:25:00 - [262] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: JerrySpringer Don't be fooled, MC and BoB are +++ standing, enough said. MC never took contract on any BoB aligned organization. EDIT: let me elaborate a bit: if MC were to be hostile to BoB or their associates, they'd have plenty to lose and little to win. BoB would definitely use that opportunity to kick MC about, and MC couldn't afford the bad press. So BoB keeps MC friendly and MC knows what's good for em. No-one could afford it smart arse. As far as I know, there have only ever been two serious offers to hire MC to hit BoB and one of them was me. All the rest of this tinfoilasshattery is just that, asshattery i.e. amusing but 99% wrong. So what ur saying is that will charge crazy amounts of isk to take a contract on u, even though their charter states that they charge around 200 mil a corp. Still doesnt sound neutral to me. Care to elaborate? So Far So Good....So What
Estarriol	Posted - 2006.02.07 06:27:00 - [263] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx So what ur saying is that will charge crazy amounts of isk to take a contract on u, even though their charter states that they charge around 200 mil a corp. Still doesnt sound neutral to me. Care to elaborate? They charge the amount that makes it worth it to them. Pure business sense. Quote: ProphetGuru > we gonna Donkeypunch SA
Avernus	Posted - 2006.02.07 06:46:00 - [264] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx So what ur saying is that will charge crazy amounts of isk to take a contract on u, even though their charter states that they charge around 200 mil a corp. Still doesnt sound neutral to me. Care to elaborate? Basically, it's sound business economics. The harder the target, the higher the price; it doesn't make sense to charge a flat fee for all circumstances when you know the cost of doing business on your own end is going change depending on what you've been contracted for. Example: (conjecture) When MC was hired by ISS for escort and protection during their most recent outpost deployment, one would expect the price of services rendered to be lower than a normal contract.. this would be due to the lower likelyhood of combat occuring. Everything has to be factored in. In contrast, if a contract was to be put out on BoB, MC has no illusions as to wether their reputation is well earned. They are basically a hardened target. Charging the same fee to go after a noob corp or a veteran pvp outfit... doesn't make sense. Perhaps if BoB is to suffer some significant defeats and comes to be seen in a different light by MC, then the price would likely go down in the future. Industrialists play the market on a regular basis; Mercenaries have their own market, and they have to treat it with similar respect if they want to be a viable entity. PS. Not trying to speak on behalf of MC in any way here, just looking to clue someone in. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Ku'Gras	Posted - 2006.02.07 06:50:00 - [265] Originally by: Creamster Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Creamster Interesting, so BoB's after SE as well? Why what difference does it make to you? You're already -10 to us, your alliance diplomat has managed to alienate the entirety of the rest of the south and now you are clutching at straws by hoping the very people you fell out with last time your alliance destabilised the south are going to help you now or something?? ... or something. The SE is a very old alliance, lots of things have been done, i can only speak for a post-Cujo SE. And you should too. I don't remember when we tried to destabilize south, we've been on the defensive fighting against SA and few other aggressors since september 05. And that diplomat you're referring to, what's his name? What i see here is you can't even tell the difference between alliances living in stain, what they stand for and what they're doing. But you're all so willing to declare them dead. Oh well you're not the first and won't be the last. If anyone have any interest in changing their standings better do that communication in game instead of throwing around accusations on forum.
FrioBebe	Posted - 2006.02.07 07:37:00 - [266] Originally by: Ku'Gras If anyone have any interest in changing their standings better do that communication in game instead of throwing around accusations on forum. So declaring two alliances dead means, "Talk to me ingame, and you will be honored with positive standings"?
Draximus Cane	Posted - 2006.02.07 07:37:00 - [267] Originally by: Destroyer Draxx Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: JerrySpringer Don't be fooled, MC and BoB are +++ standing, enough said. MC never took contract on any BoB aligned organization. EDIT: let me elaborate a bit: if MC were to be hostile to BoB or their associates, they'd have plenty to lose and little to win. BoB would definitely use that opportunity to kick MC about, and MC couldn't afford the bad press. So BoB keeps MC friendly and MC knows what's good for em. No-one could afford it smart arse. As far as I know, there have only ever been two serious offers to hire MC to hit BoB and one of them was me. All the rest of this tinfoilasshattery is just that, asshattery i.e. amusing but 99% wrong. So what ur saying is that will charge crazy amounts of isk to take a contract on u, even though their charter states that they charge around 200 mil a corp. Still doesnt sound neutral to me. Care to elaborate? let me break it down for you Quote: Generally speaking , - This word "generally" implies one size does not in fact fit all Quote: our prices range from 250-900 million ISK per week, per corp, see our prices are not fixed at 250 mill, and I do belive the alliance of BoB contains more than one member Quote: depending on the targets agin here we try to make clear the price may be different dependent on the target by using what we assume is an easy to use phrase "dependent on the target" I am not sure if you are attempting to flame bait, or requesting a quote, if it is the latter, I suspect this isn't the best place to ask Fly Safe PS am I the only one that finds your name scary? Drax -------------------------------------------------
CopeLand	Posted - 2006.02.07 07:48:00 - [268] Originally by: ProphetGuru Originally by: CopeLand after intelligence reports indicated bob was gonna wardec sa in few hours, a pre-strike was launched. I've seen this posted a few times now. SA must have really crappy intel.... maybe Bared is still playing at politics. We seldom wardec anyone, we live in 0.0 .... it never does us any good to be honest. SA believing we would attack them first without a word? pfft. I don't buy into that and I highly doubt any Stainers that have been around more then 2yrs would buy into it either. It's not how we operate... when we go off to fight someone we don't exactly keep it a secret. Someone in SA has wound up this situation from the get go..... I wonder who that could be. well that was the rumor and on several occasions have i heard from different sources, that this was a fact
CopeLand	Posted - 2006.02.07 07:50:00 - [269] Originally by: Riddlock Originally by: CopeLand Originally by: Foomanshoe My personal opinion I dont see how SA didnt see Tribes making this stance. We were content to let you fight FIX, mostly because we felt we were allies with both of you pretty closely. FIX helped us in the G/IRON war and most of us used to be in SA. However when you declared on Bob and EM, you made it 1 ally against 3 allies. You brought the fight from catch, to querious and delve, completely cutting off both our access points to empire with a very large warzone. And to add to it, most of SA have never once respected the members of tribal souls. When we were in SA we got told we were carebears even while we were in fleets fighting G. (i have a chat log of a MASS person lecturing us about how we have to fight while she was in empire and we were currently in a gang fighting G). When we left SA said publically said we were just the fat and good riddens. And when we could no longer remain neutral SA said we were carebears and we could go screw ourselves. Still though, alot of Tribes guys didnt like shooting old friends, and we were in talks with TRIGGER about pulling out of the war. SA used the talks and our temperary cease-fire while the talks went on to send a gang down to paragon to attack us. Thats why the talks ended. If the only way for a mutual respect to form is through good old combat, then take the battle off the forums and onto eve. Tribals has a good reputation of being smack free. When we fight IMP and G and VC and SE, i think there are very few incidences of us smacktalking in-game or on the forums. Im sorry that you feel betrayed. See you in space. 1)tribals concerns in this matter were nonexistant if they had standings to fix, bob, and sa, what do they care if they have to pass through tribal choose to enter this, whatever their reasons 2)some if not all tribal corps are old sa corps they left sa to protect their outpost and southern complexes and got a nap with g or some sort of a deal, they bailed out of that war naturally at the time, some ppl were bound to react to this, some in negative manner Keep talking about things that you have no clue copeland ,keep thinking we left to protect an outpost and how we napped G /Iron .We'll see how those will solve this thing . ye i dont know nothing cept for maybe that if i am nap with 3 x entities and they are attacking each other, i dont have to do anything unless i really want to its called choosing a side gangi ¦Tr vel
Ku'Gras	Posted - 2006.02.07 08:49:00 - [270] Originally by: FrioBebe Originally by: Ku'Gras If anyone have any interest in changing their standings better do that communication in game instead of throwing around accusations on forum. So declaring two alliances dead means, "Talk to me ingame, and you will be honored with positive standings"? For the mentally challenged: If you are on hostile standings since earlier and believe there is a reason to change that then communicate with the appointed diplomat in-game. Same goes for all alliances. I'm NOT saying there is a reason or even that any party (SE or BoB) wants to alter standings. My CEO said we are content with having them at negative and before that SE guy popped in here I was sure SE were happy and content with a negative standing. I'm saying convo between diplomats in-game > vague forum accusations.

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