More Speed, Smaller sig, drone bay, are pretty important in my experience.

Is the impression that I am meant to be seeing is that rlml cerb is the best fit? Against other cruisers how does it fare?

I was under the impression that ham was viable? My old ham rook scored some good kills before it got ganked.

God Tier: Ishtar / Cerb

Meh Tier: Vagabond / Munin

I was under the impression that ham was viable? My old ham rook scored some good kills before it got ganked.

Just look at ship stats while linked. If speed is 160% of signature radius or higher, CN HAMs start losing damage. The very high DRF on HAMs means it's very close to a 1:1 ratio, speed at 320% signature is 50% damage, 640% is 25%, etc.

Just to demonstrate, a linked Scythe Fleet Issue with a Domi MWD and 2 nanos has a signature of 308m and goes 3444m/sec. It takes about 15% of EFT DPS from CN Scourge HAMs. Even if you web this ship, HAMs are still only doing 35-40% damage. If they overload their MWD, you can apply two webs and RLMs will STILL do more DPS than HAMs.

While HAMs can't even hit ABing battleships for full DPS, if you load precisions into your RLMs you can still do 100% of EFT DPS to a Scythe Fleet with links, titan bonus, deadspace MWD, and a full Halo set.

Skirmish links completely invalidate all missile systems bigger than RLMs, period. The Sacrilege is actually overpowered if noone has links, but becomes **** if everyone does. That's just what happens when you combine a speed increase with a sig reduction of that magnitude.

Blaster eagle is amazingly powerul and can surprise a lot of people.

[Cerberus, Cerberus fit HAM]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Faint Warp Disruptor I
Medium Shield Booster II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II

Probably a dirt-crap fit but for fighting other cruisers I've found it "adequate".

Pimping it out results in

[Cerberus, Cerberus fit HAM bling]

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System

Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Caldari Navy Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy EM Ward Amplifier
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II

With quite a bit better dps and of course range improvements across the board. WIth implants you break 840 dps, the problem is of course: application.

Haha yes I thought that would be your conclusion. Neither of fits are real I just wanted to know your thoughts on viability of an active tanked cerb.

But even so those fits are nearly cap stable if you fit 3% cap implants. I have about 5 different cerbs and they're all configured differently

Blaster eagle is amazingly powerul and can surprise a lot of people.

I hope to god that the idea of ham cerbs being terrible continues. It will get me more fights. Post it everywhere. Everywhere I say

I hope to god that the idea of ham cerbs being terrible continues. It will get me more fights. Post it everywhere. Everywhere I say

And yet both the Minmatar HACs were buffed (better sensors, Vaga effectively got a 5th bonus, extra low for the Muninnn)

And yet both the Minmatar HACs were buffed (better sensors, Vaga effectively got a 5th bonus, extra low for the Muninnn)

The worse hac is The zealot. Dont know how ccp tought it was OK. It has not been used for a logn time before the HAC rebalance.

It needs better fittings and some reduced mass ASAP.


As of now there is no GOOD reason to use a Zealot.

The worse hac is The zealot. Dont know how ccp tought it was OK. It has not been used for a logn time before the HAC rebalance.

It needs better fittings and some reduced mass ASAP.


As of now there is no GOOD reason to use a Zealot.