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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.03 06:45:00 -
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just saying, this cruiser is capable of numbers like 670dps while omnitanking 900dps, for example. it is the gold standard in PVE, and there isnt really a reason to fly anything else (at cruiser/BC level). Tengu is the go-to PVE boat, and people dont have a reason to use anything else.
should it be this way? |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
641
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Posted - 2011.11.03 06:47:00 -
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Nah it's fine.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2011.11.03 06:53:00 -
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wish other T3's were capable of even remotely similar numbers in PVE. |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.03 06:58:00 -
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I actually see more Golems and CNR doing missions. It's actually debatable if the Tengu is the best all-round T3 cruiser if you look at it's resists etc. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
641
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Posted - 2011.11.03 06:59:00 -
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Hungry Eyes wrote:wish other T3's were capable of even remotely similar numbers in PVE.
Then that should be the title of your thread.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Psychophantic
88
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:01:00 -
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Don't nerf the Tengu.
Buff the Loki. |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
214
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:08:00 -
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If anything nerf that we loose skills when getting blown to bits in the T3's.
F&ID: Skill Training, Agent Finder
What is CCP Guard gonna do with that grenade? |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
Coalition of the Unfortunate
54
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:15:00 -
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Hungry Eyes wrote:should it be this way?
Mmm hmmm.
Caldari are PvE excellence. Consider it the reward for spending all those months training missiles and their support skills. |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:33:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Hungry Eyes wrote:wish other T3's were capable of even remotely similar numbers in PVE. Then that should be the title of your thread.
the title is: tengu needs nerf (to be brought down to par with the rest of T3's) . easier to nerf one ship than to buff 3. |
Shadowsword
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
59
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:37:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Nah it's fine.
The ship is fine. Deadspace shield mods aren't. Everything is OP when there's a pith booster on it. |
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Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto we Sizwe
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:38:00 -
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A tengu falls like a sack of shyte if it has no cap to turn on it's hardners. No need to Nerf...
The Crazy South African.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
956
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:40:00 -
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Hungry Eyes wrote:just saying, this cruiser is capable of numbers like 670dps while omnitanking 900dps, for example. it is the gold standard in PVE, and there isnt really a reason to fly anything else (at cruiser/BC level). Tengu is the go-to PVE boat, and people dont have a reason to use anything else.
should it be this way?
What does it matter which ship is best for PvE?
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Generals4
Caldari State
264
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:42:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:Don't nerf the Tengu.
Buff the Loki.
The loki is better at PvP than the Tengu, no need for it to get buffed.
-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Nyla Skin
Pew Pew Corp
Behold.
31
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:53:00 -
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Something will always be the best.
No need to nerf the tengu. |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:18:00 -
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Nyio wrote:If anything nerf that we loose skills when getting blown to bits in the T3's.
Go on love, tell us the reasoning behind this view? |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:19:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Hungry Eyes wrote:just saying, this cruiser is capable of numbers like 670dps while omnitanking 900dps, for example. it is the gold standard in PVE, and there isnt really a reason to fly anything else (at cruiser/BC level). Tengu is the go-to PVE boat, and people dont have a reason to use anything else.
should it be this way? What does it matter which ship is best for PvE?
Yes. The paper scissors rock balance should apply to specific pve uses as well as pvp.
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Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
214
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:21:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Nyio wrote:If anything nerf that we loose skills when getting blown to bits in the T3's. Go on love, tell us the reasoning behind this view?
It's been bugging me since I first learned about this, and kept me from bothering with T3.
I know alot of newer players feel the same way, perhaps EVE would be just a little more mainstream and appeal to more.
One little change at a time..
F&ID: Skill Training, Agent Finder
What is CCP Guard gonna do with that grenade? |
Maggeridon Thoraz
Selectus Pravus Lupus
Transmission Lost
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:27:00 -
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the same dumb threads over again and over again like afk cloaky and tengu nerfs threads |
Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
18
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:29:00 -
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Should the Tengu be nerfed? No. That'll just anger a huge number of players.
A more appropriate question would be: Does the Legion and Proteus need a buff? I'd say yes, since I haven't seen anyone say that these two are good at anything. Loki is good for PVP, Tengu is good for PVE, Legion and Proteus are left out in the cold.
But what do I know. I don't want any T3 to begin with. |
Anna Graant
Standard By 10
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:37:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:the same dumb threads over again and over again like afk cloaky and tengu nerfs threads
Same dunb people moaning about the same threads over and over........and over again  |
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Kopfy
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Posted - 2011.11.03 08:47:00 -
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Can someone link the fit OP is talking about? I can't seem to find it.... 
I only find 670 tank 630 dps and 945 tank 277 dps.
Edit: Found it. the Germans had the answer. |
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
68
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:05:00 -
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No don't nerf them, we need MORE silly people who put 4b into a 100mn AB fit that goes boom easily. |
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
23
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:22:00 -
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Hungry Eyes wrote:wish other T3's were capable of even remotely similar numbers in PVE.
Well, this looks better than a tengu imo. But then again, I've never flown a SC and I probably never will. They're not that great. At least not compared to the cost.
They have some nice advantages, but overall I feel the t2 ships are better pve ships in addition to being more cost effective. I guess they're good for wormhole exploration. But for incusions I really feel that command ships and marauders have way more to offer. Same goes for missions.
Have you noticed how some ships are actually blue? Weird isn't it? |
Hannibal Ord
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
43
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:25:00 -
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The Tengu is only better/Equal to a Golem/Mach etc if you plug a fairly expensive amount of implants into it for missile damage. |
Twisted Alice
The Scope
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:30:00 -
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Hannibal Ord wrote:The Tengu is only better/Equal to a Golem/Mach etc if you plug a fairly expensive amount of implants into it for missile damage.
Tengu is a cruiser, Golem/Mach are battleships.
You expect a cruiser to be more powerful than a battleship?
Plus Tengu is overpowered compared to the other 3 t3 cruisers. Easy way to tell is most people use them and if anyone asks it's always the Tengu is the best.
So hell yeah it's overpowered. Although I doubt the Tengu pilots would agree because it suits their purpose not to. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1151
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:31:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Malcanis wrote:What does it matter which ship is best for PvE? Yes. The paper scissors rock balance should apply to specific pve uses as well as pvp. The problem is that in in PvE, there is no paper or scissors, and the Tengu just happens to be granite compared to the Legion's sandstone.
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
4
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:32:00 -
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Tengu is fine, loki is fine, buff the legion. |
Nyla Skin
Pew Pew Corp
Behold.
31
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:40:00 -
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Shivus Tao wrote:Tengu is fine, loki is fine, buff the legion.
And proteus? Personally I think proteus' tank is fine but failguns are not. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1151
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:45:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:Shivus Tao wrote:Tengu is fine, loki is fine, buff the legion. And proteus? The Proteus is actually quite good for PvEGǪ
GǪbut the problem is that it competes with the Ishtar, which a Proteus pilot most likely will be able to fly anyway, and which has a tanking versatility and a damage projection that the Proteus can't match. The Proteus claws some of it back, though, if we start talking about exploraiton.
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Disfocate
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:45:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:Shivus Tao wrote:Tengu is fine, loki is fine, buff the legion. And proteus? Personally I think proteus' tank is fine but failguns are not.
proteus is getting a buff coming with the hybrid rebalance. |
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