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Aineko Macx Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2011.11.03 09:48:00 - [31] - Quote IMHO the Tengu is somewhat overpowered, something that around -10% dps and tank would balance out. However, I strongly support the idea of nerfing T3 command subsystems, so they become decidedly less powerful than fleet CS.
Widemouth Deepthroat Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 3	Posted - 2011.11.03 09:50:00 - [32] - Quote Nerf 100mn AB Tengu!! Isk shouldn't buy you such an advantage over other players!!
DarkAegix Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 212	Posted - 2011.11.03 10:00:00 - [33] - Quote WHAT IS PROTUS?
Hannibal Ord Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 43	Posted - 2011.11.03 10:16:00 - [34] - Quote Twisted Alice wrote: Hannibal Ord wrote: The Tengu is only better/Equal to a Golem/Mach etc if you plug a fairly expensive amount of implants into it for missile damage. Tengu is a cruiser, Golem/Mach are battleships. You expect a cruiser to be more powerful than a battleship? Plus Tengu is overpowered compared to the other 3 t3 cruisers. Easy way to tell is most people use them and if anyone asks it's always the Tengu is the best. So hell yeah it's overpowered. Although I doubt the Tengu pilots would agree because it suits their purpose not to. And if you plug in the same amount of Implants into a Golem/Mach pilot you get a more powerful ship than a maxed out Tengu. Without Implants, a Golem/Nightmare/Mach/CNR/Vargur etc all **** all over the tengu for PVE. The main reason it rules against the other T3 is missiles.
Shivus Tao Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 4	Posted - 2011.11.03 10:19:00 - [35] - Quote The thing you have to remember about the tengu is that its projected maximum DPS only comes from using kinetic missiles. Switch to any other damage type and it loses about 150 dps (more around 200 if it's a HAM tengu). So despite having the luxury of damage type selection using missiles, it's pretty much stuck to one type unless it goes up against something known to have a massive and unpatchable hole. The skill loss on death along with potential isk loss from flying a decently fit, if not sufficiently pimped tengu balances the reward of having a genuinely good PVE, and PVP boat. Proteus i'll wait until the hybrid buffs go though. The legion though, yep buff it. Ham legion is the only sufficiently viable PVP fit that comes close to justifying the risks and costs.
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 36	Posted - 2011.11.03 10:23:00 - [36] - Quote i would rather see usable loki or proteus or legion ... or at least as versatile as lets say tengu .. sure other T3s got their use and are somewhat superior in it vs free for everything tengu. yet if you build tengu to do the stuff exactly same as other T3s "usable version" they are superior in any way.
Xen0nn PassThrough 0	Posted - 2011.11.03 10:43:00 - [37] - Quote The Tengu is also very good because it has no drones and is small and fast, it will pwn a CNR easy in PVE even with none Kinetic Damage just because the CNR's DPS sucks without Drones let alone the big Cruise missiles which suck vs smaller ships. EFT dps numbers might look nice but the Tengu comes out better if you play with both on the field. I have been playing on and off with both ships and the CNR just doesn't cut it.
Lexmana Imperial Stout 41	Posted - 2011.11.03 17:16:00 - [38] - Quote Shivus Tao wrote: The thing you have to remember about the tengu is that its projected maximum DPS only comes from using kinetic missiles. Switch to any other damage type and it loses about 150 dps (more around 200 if it's a HAM tengu). At least it CAN switch damage type.
Gasm Colossus Enterprises 5	Posted - 2011.11.03 17:49:00 - [39] - Quote Kopfy wrote: Can someone link the fit OP is talking about? I can't seem to find it.... I only find 670 tank 630 dps and 945 tank 277 dps. Edit: Found it. the Germans had the answer. post it?
Trainwreck McGee Ghost Ship Inc. 97	Posted - 2011.11.03 17:50:00 - [40] - Quote BUFF LOKI CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool

Jerick Ludhowe Shadow Legion Industries Dark Phoenix Rising. 15	Posted - 2011.11.03 17:54:00 - [41] - Quote Widemouth Deepthroat wrote: Nerf 100mn AB Tengu!! Isk shouldn't buy you such an advantage over other players!! Agreed, fitting over sized prop mods on ships should be removed
Botleten GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 160	Posted - 2011.11.03 17:54:00 - [42] - Quote As it is the Tengu isnt terribly much greater than other T2 cruisers... not that Im saying it needs to be buffed, but if nerfed it definitely wouldnt be worth the excessive cost. If anything, the other 3 T3 cruisers need to be buffed and Tengu left as is.
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg The Lazarus Initiative 16	Posted - 2011.11.03 18:00:00 - [43] - Quote Tengu is not the best pve ship by a lone way. Try a faction Battleship if you really what to see DPS Second Tengu is just fine for deep nullsec roams first of to fit a cloak/nullifer you have to gimp the DPS second you will run out of missiles very quickly so its not like you can spend very long there at all Keep it as it is
Barakkus 1005	Posted - 2011.11.03 18:04:00 - [44] - Quote Generals4 wrote: Psychophantic wrote: Don't nerf the Tengu. Buff the Loki. The loki is better at PvP than the Tengu, no need for it to get buffed. boooooooooooo BUFF THE LOKI
Chi Ftele School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.11.03 18:05:00 - [45] - Quote well yeah it's massively expensive and you lose skills if it dies, I think the power is justified That is all.
Froz3nEcho Sarain Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 129	Posted - 2011.11.03 18:07:00 - [46] - Quote Chi Ftele wrote: well yeah it's massively expensive and you lose skills if it dies, I think the power is justified Then give that power to the other T3's as well. Legion for example lol. ~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~ -á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~
Nephilius Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co. 15	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:16:00 - [47] - Quote For what it is, and what its used for, the Tengu is fine. It's PvE anyways, what do you care? After flying one for awhile, I'm finding that I miss the Raven for doing missions. In one fully loaded cruise rack, I can take out three BS rats to the Tengu's one and a half per loaded rack of heavy missiles. It's not OP. There's no such thing as Space Pirates, only Space Bears with eyepatches and speech impediments.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 105	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:21:00 - [48] - Quote Tengu is fine, the problem is all other T3's are just good for specific role or maybe 2 while they're supposed to be VERSATILE. Tengu IS versatile and a very good ship for pve/pvp, all others don't, that's why they should be buffed at Tengu level.
Gempei Siberian Khatru. 6	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:27:00 - [49] - Quote Tanya wrote: Tengu IS versatile and a very good ship for pve/pvp, all others don't, that's why they should be buffed at Tengu level. +1
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 105	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:29:00 - [50] - Quote Chi Ftele wrote: well yeah it's massively expensive and you lose skills if it dies, I think the power is justified If you can't manage to "eject" before you explode you deserve to loose 1 level random sub. 4 days to train it again

Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 71	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:29:00 - [51] - Quote Widemouth Deepthroat wrote: Nerf 100mn AB Tengu!! Isk shouldn't buy you such an advantage over other players!! Let's just remove ISK too then! Yay! ... idiot.
Mystical Might The Imperial Fedaykin 13	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:32:00 - [52] - Quote I see This chain occuring; Nerf the Tengu!! Ohno, Now Loki is OP. Nerf the Loki!! Ohno, Now the Legion is OP, Nerf the Legion !!! Ohno, Now the Proteus is OP, Nerf the Proteus!! Ohno, Now the Tengu is OP, Nerf the Tengu!! Just imagine it repeated down the page. OR, you can accept that different ships are good at different things and move on? Or fly a different ship.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 71	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:33:00 - [53] - Quote Mystical Might wrote: I see This chain occuring; Nerf the Tengu!! Ohno, Now Loki is OP. Nerf the Loki!! Ohno, Now the Legion is OP, Nerf the Legion !!! Ohno, Now the Proteus is OP, Nerf the Proteus!! Ohno, Now the Tengu is OP, Nerf the Tengu!! Just imagine it repeated down the page. OR, you can accept that different ships are good at different things and move on? Or fly a different ship. Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red.
Mystical Might The Imperial Fedaykin 13	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:35:00 - [54] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red. Much Love, Silly Little Orange.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 71	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:39:00 - [55] - Quote Mystical Might wrote: Katrina Oniseki wrote: Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red. Much Love, Silly Little Orange. Oh, please touch me. Touch me all over with your autocannons!
Mystical Might The Imperial Fedaykin 13	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:49:00 - [56] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: Mystical Might wrote: Katrina Oniseki wrote: Even though you're a dirty -10 to me, I agree with you, you naughty little red. Much Love, Silly Little Orange. Oh, please touch me. Touch me all over with your autocannons! OooKaaai.
Jita Alt666 459	Posted - 2011.11.03 19:55:00 - [57] - Quote Tippia wrote: Jita Alt666 wrote: Malcanis wrote: What does it matter which ship is best for PvE? Yes. The paper scissors rock balance should apply to specific pve uses as well as pvp. The problem is that in in PvE, there is no paper or scissors, and the Tengu just happens to be granite compared to the Legion's sandstone. By rock paper scissors pve I mean: Tengu: Best in Caldari space. Terrible in Gallente space. Below average in Minmatar space. Above average in Amarr space Loki: Bestt in Minmatar space. Terrible in Amarr space. Above average in Gallente Space. Below average in Caldari space Proetues: Best in Gallente Space. Terrible in Caldari Space. Above average in Minmatar space. Below average in Amarr space Legion: Best in Amarr space. Terrible in Minmatar space. Above average in Caldari space. below Average in Gallente space. Yes I know that doesn't really happen - but it I like the idea.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2011.11.03 20:20:00 - [58] - Quote Maggeridon Thoraz wrote: the same dumb threads over again and over again like afk cloaky and tengu nerfs threads im speaking about PVE strictly. there's no reason to fly another cruiser hull in PVE.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2011.11.03 20:20:00 - [59] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Tengu is fine, the problem is all other T3's are just good for specific role or maybe 2 while they're supposed to be VERSATILE. Tengu IS versatile and a very good ship for pve/pvp, all others don't, that's why they should be buffed at Tengu level. or this, agreed.
Haulin Aussie Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2011.11.03 20:40:00 - [60] - Quote Hungry Eyes wrote: Maggeridon Thoraz wrote: the same dumb threads over again and over again like afk cloaky and tengu nerfs threads im speaking about PVE strictly. there's no reason to fly another cruiser hull in PVE. Ishtar is much cheaper, has a little less dps, but will run pretty much anything outside of wormhole space without too much trouble. If your trying to say buff the other t3's then meh. Caldari have always been the best for pve, you can switch damage types on the fly, and the tengu really only has a good tank with a rather expensive faction booster. By making the tengu worse for pve people will just move on to something else, and someone else will make the same complaint you are. It's really a non issue.



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