Yea, my guess is once again someone behind the scene messed up and they had to do this to try and keep it going. CCP Manifest was in the Twitch channel for awhile until he got laughed out for trying to make out it was an epic fight. I feel a little sorry for the ISD trying to convince people to jump into Doril after the first wave of slaughter, he got ripped to ****.

Look i went into the fight partially PVE but mostly PVP fit as i had no idea what the event was going to be. Hence i lasted one's standing of the first blood bath and actually got on a kill unlike most. The TiDi coupled with CCP FC skills and "just jump to Planet 4 when the bubble dispersers rubbish" caused loads of High Sec players to die on probably their first LS adventure. What sort of Dev doesn't know that the bubbles will just get re deployed in the instant they are down and that you wouldn't last long enough to just "warp out" Every wormholer and NullSec guy does.

Everyone clearly knows the difference between a PVE and a PVP fit. Most people were in a PVE fit as they were given the impression this was a pirate NPC event. The response on the coms that we were going to 0.4sec 10 min's prior to the event start was shock. Most people didn't know. This was simply down to unclear communication from CCP. The situation of the sites kind of gave my fleet a good idea. Hence being in a PVP fit to the most part.

Most people thought CCP had engineered some new mechanic where they were forming LS fleets (pirates) and flagging them so their could be a 0.5 sec fight. That was one of the general ideas. (temp security status drop etc)

Look i went into the fight partially PVE but mostly PVP fit as i had no idea what the event was going to be. Hence i lasted one's standing of the first blood bath and actually got on a kill unlike most. The TiDi coupled with CCP FC skills and "just jump to Planet 4 when the bubble dispersers rubbish" caused loads of High Sec players to die on probably their first LS adventure. What sort of Dev doesn't know that the bubbles will just get re deployed in the instant they are down and that you wouldn't last long enough to just "warp out" Every wormholer and NullSec guy does.

What takes the **** more is the actual event would have been over even if we had made it past the gate by the time we got their.

I just read about the event on themittani... sounded pretty lame from the highseccer's side and pretty awesome from the nullseccer's side.

Far too often it seems that CCP just doesn't get their own game. Call a live event and send out 1 gigantic fleet and not expect a massive lagfest... bonehead move CCP. Why not send out 250 man fleets on 5 minute intervals and have some actual FC's?

I just read about the event on themittani... sounded pretty lame from the highseccer's side and pretty awesome from the nullseccer's side.

Far too often it seems that CCP just doesn't get their own game. Call a live event and send out 1 gigantic fleet and not expect a massive lagfest... bonehead move CCP. Why not send out 250 man fleets on 5 minute intervals and have some actual FC's?

To sum up this post:

Sheep with no say on how they spend their time in a computergame being smug to filthy casuals that didnt know ships used in events are to be considered dead on first undock.

well, an event.....that will happen in nullsec...in curse....near utopia...announced widely and with a public fleet

i can't see any reason for it to turn to pvp....none at all.......

if you failed to understand that it would take place in null, i suggest you train reading to at least lvl 1

well, it is pretty clear that most of CCP crew doesn't know how to play pvp, just look at their fittings, their FC attempts etc....

clearly, they don't know.

it would be really intersting for everyone if CCP members (at least some of them) learned how to eve, fit ships, FC etc....

i'm pretty sure some of the changes they bring within each expansions would be considered better if they had such knowledge

knowing the game =/= knowing how to play the game

The funny part is this is what actually ended up happening with the TiDi. So you have 250man fleets jumping in on a well organized, non TiDi Razor fleet and getting owned one at a time. While the clark from CCP stood their trying to push the next fleet through the grinder on a red and green light system for the gate. The Dev must have been pissing himself as he sent the next fleet through to be killed. It was only the fact we had cross fleet team speak that we managed to pull two fleets out of going into Doril to stop them getting killed. What was even more laughable is the Dev was countering our own FC and telling the fleet to still jump even when we had told them to pull out lol

Ok just took part of the event. This simply put was a set up by CCP to hand kills to lowsec!

How did RAZOR get set up that quickly and if it wasn't for time dilation allowing then nearly an hour to get ahead of the dilated systems! Our fleet jumped in to what was simply put... a set up. Was this CCP's present to RAZOR and L.S Alliances? perhaps all the goons complaining about "carebears" was too much and the Dev's gave in?

I love PVP, i love the game. But this set up is utterly unacceptable!

Its this sort of **** that makes people stop playing Eve. CCP you should be ashamed of yourself.


Edit: Info

The CCP Dev took command of the fleet and told them when to jump and where to warp to once "out of the bubble" Then abandoned the fleet when the slaughter started. . This coupled with the sector selection being the cornerstone of all major Null Alliance deployments currently caused a mass slaughter of over 400+ h.s pilots.

You missed one very small but major part of information out. Announced 10mins prior to the event starting that it was in Null. I dont know if it was different for the Pirate Null guys but we got told on route where to go. You guys seem to think that all of the H.S fleets knew hours ahead of time this was going to take place in null? Some of us guessed and came fit accordingly for a PVE event in a PVP region. However once again. We were only informed 10mins prior to the start.

The empires of EVE Online are launching an assault tonight at 18:50. But their targets are not simply going to sit by and let that happen! They've put out their own call to action for anyone who wants to fight the power of the empires! If you're devious and wicked enough to fight against the forces of good in New Eden, go to systems FD-MLJ or Utopia at 18:50 onward and join the fleets there!

You missed one very small but major part of information out. Announced 10mins prior to the event starting that it was in Null. I dont know if it was different for the Pirate Null guys but we got told on route where to go. You guys seem to think that all of the H.S fleets knew hours ahead of time this was going to take place in null? Some of us guessed and came fit accordingly for a PVE event in a PVP region. However once again. We were only informed 10mins prior to the start.

next time i hope they will say "OK, CCP XXX is now the FC, then follow the orders, if he say jump, just ask how high

This is were they are really taking the ****. I submitted a request knowing they wont onhour it but to see what they would say. (as CCP went quiet on the forums and abondoned the fleets mid fligth"

This is their policy of fleets .

CCP operates a strict non-intervention stance towards large scale fleet fights. Unexpected and unpredictable issues can crop up when a server node is put under heavy load by a huge event of this scale. This is a well known fact and one of the main reasons for our non-intervention policy; any action on our behalf would be arbitrary as it is impossible to determine the full extent and consequences high server load had on the ongoing fight.

However by taking command of the fleet like they did. Issuing orders and direction activity they would appear in my opinion to have broke their own policy. By not making themselves the FC but directing the fleet in the same manor from an RP point they seem to be working round their own policey to undermine it. No one is in any doubt that they were commanding most of the H.S fleets actions. It has been widely reported on here and elsewhere.

http://themittani.com/news/live-event-brings-fights-and-outrage

sorry, but you are wrong, the event took place around 1800-1900 eve time, it was known since noon that utopia was involved

now, if you didn't knew utopia was in nullsec, well i'd say someone failed to do his homeworks

so you are the one who missed "one very small but major part of information"

edit: it was not noon, it was 1400 eve time:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/join-the-pirates-and-defend-their-assets

I think it is actually pretty reasonable for participants to criticize CCP for leading them into the one null region nearly every major power is deployed in at the moment. From what I hear, some of the Syndicate fleet at least made it to the LARP system, but anyone could have told them Curse would be a bad idea.

This isn't correct. Utopia was the staging ground for Pirates. Not the announced location oft he event. They moved us 21 jumps 10 min's prior to start. The presumption was both sides would be told to move. Not one would be sat waiting 1 jump out from the staging ground. If this was the plan all along why did they not tell use to fleet up 2 jumps out? The general impression was they switched the event location last min for the H.S fleets due to the overall number of members that arrived. It was completely miss managed in my opinion.

I think it is actually pretty reasonable for participants to criticize CCP for leading them into the one null region nearly every major power is deployed in at the moment. From what I hear, some of the Syndicate fleet at least made it to the LARP system, but anyone could have told them Curse would be a bad idea.

I think it is actually pretty reasonable for participants to criticize CCP for leading them into the one null region nearly every major power is deployed in at the moment. From what I hear, some of the Syndicate fleet at least made it to the LARP system, but anyone could have told them Curse would be a bad idea.

One of my mistakes was thinking CCP new know bad the zone was and actually had done something to counter this. Nievly i thought as a perceived PVE focused event (yes with PVP expected) They would cyno us in or bring CCP fleet back up to allow more balance or at least people to make it to the event location. It was only on that final jump that i came to the conclusion they were clueless and and would appear to have screwed over the fleets.

Part of the reason why people think it was a set up is the Dev's logged off straight away after everything went wrong. Leave Fleets with no direction on what was happening or even if the event was active. This coupled with the Event being Auto Destructed also feed this impression. If i had know this was the plan i would have joined the Pirates for the opportunity to actually PVP lol

well, i would expect any person planning a trip to any null sec with a sizeable fleet to actually take a look at what is actually happening in the area, who's living there, what are their primetime etc..... sounds to be FCing 101 to me....

So you assumed that being CCP is involved that you and the rest of the lemmings thought that you would were not going to lose any fight and that there some sort of back up somewhere to prevent you guys from diaf?

Is that what you are inferring?





Pirates? What pirates, I thought it was Razor.