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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:40:00 -
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BRING BACK TEH SCOPE!!!!
K thx
P.S. Maybe , just MAYBE enough people post here, and they bring it back.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:41:00 -
[2]
/signed
I dont care what the others corps said, it was a great read and it also got rid of the crap that was thrown around with the truth :S
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starmist
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:45:00 -
[3]
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!
Who are the whining idiots who complained? The scope was the best thing to happen to EVE since the launch.
A freelance Ni-Kunni merchant in the service of the empire. |
Black Lotus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:48:00 -
[4]
Request to have this stickied pls.
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Skaz
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:49:00 -
[5]
Edited by: Skaz on 02/09/2003 10:53:02
/signed
I liked the Scope kind of gave you a nice....scope......over things.
No seriously it was a really necessary thing to tell those, who aren't involved in big PvP events, that there are events that are unfolding 'naturally', and to tell us about them in a really well written fashion. That there are and can be events and not only those that are organized by Polaris, plus it gave the game a really fresh breath of life.
But instead of gaining from this and roleplaying a press release or something, apparently (I don't know the details anymore than you) TTI went and ruined it. Might have been someone else but given recent history.....
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!!!
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |
Da'Tol
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:50:00 -
[6]
yes, bring it back please!
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Entity
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:51:00 -
[7]
Signed.
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Tongs
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:51:00 -
[8]
/signed
*****ing read
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Lady Callisto
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:52:00 -
[9]
/signed
freedom of pers 
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Nasty Ways
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:52:00 -
[10]
player created content is 10 times more interesting than any 'artificial' event could ever be.
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!!
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who didnt know
that there are
NO FAIR FIGHTS
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:54:00 -
[11]
Great!!! lots of very good posts. pls no flames, we want this thread kept open! 
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:54:00 -
[12]
Bring back the scope all us deep core miners *cough farmers need to see whats going on in the universe.  
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:55:00 -
[13]
Edited by: agrizla on 02/09/2003 10:57:29
Signed, not that it'll do any good.
It rather sounds like someone threw their toys out of the pram, forgot that this is a game and threatened some sort of legal action.
Anyone taking bets on who that might have been?
Edit - I dunno how any player is supposed to "feel part" of Eve really. You know what goes on in your own little area and that's about it really 
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:56:00 -
[14]
Signed.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Clayburn
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:57:00 -
[15]
signed
Clayburn
Scope Freedom Fighter
Long Live The Resistance!!! |
Intruders
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:57:00 -
[16]
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!!
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
My sig sux |
Jun'ko Zane
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:57:00 -
[17]
/signed
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Jehyl Kaerloon
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Posted - 2003.09.02 10:59:00 -
[18]
/signed
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Ares Acumen
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:00:00 -
[19]
Agreed! |
Callum McGrath
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:00:00 -
[20]
marked
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:01:00 -
[21]
Signed!
For the record I highly doubt that TTi are responsible for the closing of Scope to reporting *real* news.
_______________________________
Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene! |
Jebba IV
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:03:00 -
[22]
agreed
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Mulciber
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:05:00 -
[23]
Signed!
The nature of the universe has by no means been made through divine power, seeing how great are the faults that mar it.
-- Lucretius |
annoing
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:07:00 -
[24]
bring it back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Inquisition
Long live the Inquisition
Long live the Emperor
Long live Amarr!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Juni
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:07:00 -
[25]
Signed
"It's your turn To cry, cry me a river Baby go on and just Cry me a river-er" Justin Timberlake |
Nephlite
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:07:00 -
[26]
Aye please bring back Scope. If there is confusion and issue with Polaris then give them their own green "Scope" tag to seperate them from Polaris!
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Drachir
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:09:00 -
[27]
signed, bring it back
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Iminay
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:09:00 -
[28]
Bring it back -/
It was an amazing read 
____________________________________________________________
Subscription Status: Active
Cancellation
Pending
Expires: 30. September 2003
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Skunk
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:09:00 -
[29]
signed
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:10:00 -
[30]
signed
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:10:00 -
[31]
signed
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
F'kinell
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:13:00 -
[32]
Edited by: F'kinell on 02/09/2003 11:20:40
signed
Excellently written
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I blame the scapegoats |
Destruct
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:14:00 -
[33]
signed
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Skull
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:14:00 -
[34]
Yes please bring it back....it kept me well entertained
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I will never stop untill all of Minmatar are free!
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Liza
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:16:00 -
[35]
signed
K THNX
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Captin Zed
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:21:00 -
[36]
Signed.
Bring it back please.
Improvise, Adapt, Overcome. |
Revolution
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:23:00 -
[37]
signed la
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Luxer
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:24:00 -
[38]
signed
_________________
Do unto others before they do unto you. |
Old Hoshi
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:24:00 -
[39]
This was proberly one of the most ingenious ideas i've seen come out of CCP, to withdraw it now is just suicidial.
/Signed.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:27:00 -
[40]
/signed
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Pal Etnal
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:27:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Pal Etnal on 02/09/2003 17:27:22
Signed, it was great. I was shocked this morning finding it gone. I loved reading it. Again, it was great.
/edit
For the first time since retail, I felt that Eve was alive, all due to the Scope. Bring it back!
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Yyrkoon
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:29:00 -
[42]
*signed*
The Scope was awesome. Get it back online, let them reporters write again!
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Chris
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:31:00 -
[43]
Signed
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IIOksII
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:31:00 -
[44]
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!!
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:31:00 -
[45]
The articles in scope were very well written and a fun read, although accuracy wasn't 100% at all times, but noone expects that. Bring it back, please!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:33:00 -
[46]
Signed
JF Public Forum |
Macumba
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:34:00 -
[47]
/Signed
"PVP = griefing" Papa Smurf |
Magdalena'Graaf
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:35:00 -
[48]
Signed! |
Xeaon
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:35:00 -
[49]
Yea, bring back the scope.. it was the only news worth reading :/
-Boogles- |
Gai Daigoji
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:36:00 -
[50]
Signed
Please note that the views expressed above are those of Gai Daigoji and not necessarily those of the JGR corporation. |
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Spawn El'Marr
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:36:00 -
[51]
The Scope was the damn best thing in Eve for eaons, bring it back!
Founder and Joint CEO of the Swedish corp Absolut Profit
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:37:00 -
[52]
Edited by: dalman on 02/09/2003 11:38:42
Bring them back!
*edit* haha, funny as always Joshua
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:37:00 -
[53]
/not signed
alright, that was a joke..........
/signed
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:37:00 -
[54]
CCP, if you do not bring the Scope back you will be competing with ragnar in the foot-shooting contest.
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bansh
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:38:00 -
[55]
/signed
please.
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Zaxx
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:39:00 -
[56]
/signed
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Cmdr Keen
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:40:00 -
[57]
/signed
"Very funny Scottie, now beam down my clothes" |
Dukath
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:40:00 -
[58]
signed
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Cyberhawk
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:41:00 -
[59]
Signed
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:41:00 -
[60]
You get my vote
/signed
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(c) Copyright Saladin, 2005.
Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |
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Greyhound
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:44:00 -
[61]
/signed
note: All news organizations are percieved to be biased. Whether they are, or not, can only been seen by their history of reporting, not from individual posts.
Having a 'GM-run' news service brings us (the gaming community of Eve) closer, and provide more potential fun in the long run.
Report, and let us decide how to editorialize it for ourselves.
---Greyhound
CEO: Old Farts
SA Alliance member
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Tirrike Koori
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:46:00 -
[62]
signed |
Dark Elf
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:47:00 -
[63]
/signed
Bring it back it should have never gone
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Javi
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:47:00 -
[64]
unf-ed.
great read... bring it back pls.
--
"well..."
-Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |
Z0mbie
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:48:00 -
[65]
Z0mbie
(signed)
What's the scope? Must be good to stur up such a fuzz
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:52:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Black Lotus on 02/09/2003 11:53:02
To Zombie : Teh Scope are a bunch of Eve reporters who bring us fantastic and interesting news. u may still read their articles at eve-i.com that were published in the last few days. they have been removed from these forums, and are not making any more articles 
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Daernik
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:52:00 -
[67]
An enjoyable and informative read. Had just recommended to others now it has gone.
Bring back the Scope..
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slacker
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:53:00 -
[68]
I didn't read it - but censorship sucks.
/vote
--
slacker |
Jerrico Delen
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:54:00 -
[69]
BRING BACK SCOPE
It was the best thing that had happened since I started playing eve.
I miss it already.
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Leodis Enteprises Corporation
Small skilled UK based corp, apply if you think you have what it takes. |
Mantrus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:54:00 -
[70]
Signed.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:54:00 -
[71]
signed.
Scope (or some other form of player news reporting) is an essential and entertaining part of EVE.
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Isla
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:55:00 -
[72]
Bring back scope.
Signed.
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Biccx
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:57:00 -
[73]
Plz bring it back.
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Caal
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:58:00 -
[74]
Signed
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Znaei
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Posted - 2003.09.02 11:59:00 -
[75]
/ Signed
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |
Karhu
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:00:00 -
[76]
Signed. |
Alkanine
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:01:00 -
[77]
/signed
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Elynsynos
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:02:00 -
[78]
/signed
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Erty
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:02:00 -
[79]
Signed
This is my signature. |
K24Q
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:02:00 -
[80]
/signed
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Lord Morgoth
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:04:00 -
[81]
Signed
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Mirajhe
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:04:00 -
[82]
/signed
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Askari
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:07:00 -
[83]
/signed.
its conception was one of the best things to happen in a long time
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~= Askari =~
Urza's Factory
http://www.mikeward.uk.com/urzas
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Darion MacVale
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:07:00 -
[84]
/signed
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:08:00 -
[85]
/signed
Bring it back..back..back..
(Now which song is that one? It sums in my head, but I cannot get it's name)
free speech not allowed here |
Cobba Vanga
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:08:00 -
[86]
signed
[righthttp://www.chon-corp.org/gfx/chon_logo_new.jp[/right] |
Fearfox
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:09:00 -
[87]
signed 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:10:00 -
[88]
bring it back!
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:10:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 02/09/2003 12:10:12
 Quote:
/signed
Bring it back..back..back..
(Now which song is that one? It sums in my head, but I cannot get it's name)
Are you thinking of "Sing it Back" by Moloko?
When you are ready i will surrender
Take me and do as you will
Have what you want to
Your way is always the best way
I have succumbed to this passive sensation
Peacefully falling away
I am the zombie your wish will command me
Laugh as i fall to your knees
(Chorus)
Bring it back
Sing it back
Bring it back
Sing it back to me
Bring it back
Sing it back
Bring it back
Sing it back to me
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Teratles
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:12:00 -
[90]
/signed
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Patty
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:13:00 -
[91]
Signed for Glory
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James Baker
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:15:00 -
[92]
I'll sign it as well, as I definately think The Scope was a good read on the long journeys, as well as letting us mere mortals know what's going on in other regions of Eve than our own backyard. I can understand that Polaris are fed up getting accused of this and that, but a thing to note, when publishing info involving several parties, is that it would be a good idea to get both sides of the story if you cannot be there in person. As with all media, The Scope may have a slight bias towards on way of conducting yourself rather than an other, but if people can opensly see what this is, and judge for themselves as well, I do not perceive this to be a problem.
It's a shame to see a number of people verbally attack good initiatives, when a far larger number appreciates it. This is unfortunately the way it is, and probably the way it will continue to be. You do not rally support for a cause until you see it attacked.
I hope you will reconsider your decision, and think about what you can do to minimize the verbal attacks.
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Serge
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:18:00 -
[93]
signed
bring it back! great idea, great news, lotsa fun reading through it!
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... "we suddenly have a good 2 dozen Chicken Littles running about proclaiming tha |
Grimm al'Roac
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:19:00 -
[94]
/Signed
I think CCP/Hobbes does not acknowledge how much "The Scope" means to the playerbase except for those few. Or rather, one whiner that complained to CCP so that they closed it. No names but you all know who it is.
If you are trying to make players interact with the game enviroment you must inform players what is happening, and i think the ppl at "The Scope" did that very well. Of course some ppl are going to be upset with what is posted but you cant please them all now can you ? and i think this thread is showing that most players want it back.
CCP/Hobbes time to listen to the masses perhaps ?
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Zaphod Robotnik
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:19:00 -
[95]
/Signed
The Scope brought some real life to the game - concentrating on what EVE was designed for - player on player interaction. CCP/Polaris should reconsider their stance.
--
Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik
President, Royal Communication Department
http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/http://eve.britishspacecorps |
Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:20:00 -
[96]
Quote:
Are you thinking of "Sing it Back" by Moloko?
AH, EXACTLY. Thanks, Joshua
free speech not allowed here |
Hackett
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:20:00 -
[97]
Signed
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Nathan Voughn
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:21:00 -
[98]
In the name of Xanadu corp:
Bring it back.
It adds depth to the game!
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Relic
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:25:00 -
[99]
Signed
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Thrak
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:26:00 -
[100]
Signed.
Bring it back CCP or feel my girth. I mean wrath.
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Beckull
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:29:00 -
[101]
Bring it back, today.
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NGRU Rix
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:29:00 -
[102]
On behalf of the NGRU Corp..
/signed x29, Bring it back!!
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:33:00 -
[103]
Bring it back! this is rediculous...
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
"Any statements made above this line are my persona" |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:35:00 -
[104]
I enjoyed all the previous scope reports I read.
I do not care if they are biased or play favorites - so do real life news stations. They are a news source covering player events, and that is something EVE badly needs.
I'd be happy to see them return.
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Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:40:00 -
[105]
/signed
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Teister
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:45:00 -
[106]
/signed
Best dam "Event" this game has, and they had to kill it.
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
www.cfs-eve.org
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Jonas Eisenberg
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:48:00 -
[107]
Signed
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mrplow
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:48:00 -
[108]
signed
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I'm mrplow. Thats my name. That name again, it's mrplow |
Starwolf
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:48:00 -
[109]
/signed
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:51:00 -
[110]
It's an insult at MWD to throw away the torch away the second it becomes a bit hot...
You did something very difficult here, you actually made the game more boring then it already was.
Unbiased news is just not possible. There is always someone who finds it insulting or who's propaganda is being squashed by unrelated news sources.
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soonÖ |
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:51:00 -
[111]
They took it away? WTF?
Bring it back already!
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |
Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:54:00 -
[112]
Quote:
They took it away? WTF?
Bring it back already!
... Yep. *sign*
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Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:56:00 -
[113]
I didn't get a chance to read it, but I thought it was a good idea last week and I think it's a good idea now.
Don't give in to the hate. No matter what you do, there will always ALWAYS be people ready to whine about it. It's a law of MMORPG life.
fsck the bozos!
Signed,
Iece
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2003.09.02 12:57:00 -
[114]
*signed*
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FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |
Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:03:00 -
[115]
Signed.
Going on seven pages now... I think you'll have to agree the players want it back.
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Ballard
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:03:00 -
[116]
*signed*
please bring them back, I loved them!
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Jubeli
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:03:00 -
[117]
/signed |
Tombfiller
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:03:00 -
[118]
Yea bring it back ....
And what if they take side ... it's the media right
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# Is this the post button ? #
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Ballard
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:04:00 -
[119]
*signed*
please bring them back, I loved them!
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:14:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Mongo Peck on 02/09/2003 13:17:03
*/Signed
Ohhh ... do what your told ..... and wake up to the masses ....
Mongo speaks !!
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pr0toss
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:14:00 -
[121]
/signed on behalf of Privateers Unlimited
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cball
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:22:00 -
[122]
Brig the Scope back !!!!
CCP can have an employee oversee it or even be its editor. This would resolve the acusations against Polaris.
...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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Lake
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:22:00 -
[123]
/signed.
See discussion on this topic at
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=29606&page=1 |
Psy Corp
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:24:00 -
[124]
Bring it back
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Daan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:26:00 -
[125]
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
*drops on knees*
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Merdekka Radaen
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:26:00 -
[126]
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!!!
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Aronis Contar
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:27:00 -
[127]
signed
*makes three crosses on petition*
Ciao, Aronis!
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Acuna Traos
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:28:00 -
[128]
*signed*
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:29:00 -
[129]
Bring it back!
Am I the only one or is this tread extremely bugged?
---
soonÖ |
Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:30:00 -
[130]
Quote:
Bring it back!
Am I the only one or is this tread extremely bugged?
Your not the only one :P
*Logs an alt and signs again*
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
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Galfrey
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:32:00 -
[131]
/Signed!
With MDW sadly defunct there seems to be noone left bringing us the News around the Galaxy.
Please re-consider and bring back The Scope - or we'll just have to buy Morkt a new Cray so he can get MDW back on the stands!
Galfrey
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Capn Blood
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:36:00 -
[132]
Here's my vote to bring it back.
P.S. Can I vote yes with my alts too??
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"Trust no man who says to you that 'The ends justify the means' or who says that 'We will do whatever it takes...'.
These men have no honour, and are fit only to be politicians."
The book of Rab
Chapter 1, Verse 3.
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Lefevre
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:41:00 -
[133]
/signed Lefevre
Teddybears |
Tristan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:41:00 -
[134]
/yarr!
Bring it back dagnabit!
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Shikome Alluin
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:44:00 -
[135]
*signed*
Was a great read!
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Captain Black
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:47:00 -
[136]
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Finitos
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:51:00 -
[137]
/signed
Player events are something the players can relate to...bring back the scope!
Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. |
Karl Staf
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:52:00 -
[138]
/singed
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http://blades.stylii.com |
M Sullivan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:52:00 -
[139]
Back....please.../signed
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:52:00 -
[140]
Pointless exercise folks.
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Roxane
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:52:00 -
[141]
/signed
Roxane
Editor - Gallente Enquirer
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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:56:00 -
[142]
/signed
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Jean
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Posted - 2003.09.02 13:59:00 -
[143]
/signed
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Specialist in Digital Analogy |
Gurenus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:00:00 -
[144]
/signed
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StarScore
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:01:00 -
[145]
/signed
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StarLight Inc
Make a change for the better. Join The EVE Revolution. <-- LINK |
juxta
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:02:00 -
[146]
bring back the scope please
May all youre kiddes be hairy ones. |
Hideo Kojiama
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:17:00 -
[147]
Signed
bring it back.
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i am a sheep BAAAAAAAAAAAA |
Snoop
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:24:00 -
[148]
signed
if it comes back please be more careful in your reports and dont give away fleet size's and locations while regions are still active.
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CrazzlY
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:29:00 -
[149]
/signed!
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Siopaos Soltueur
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:47:00 -
[150]
signed |
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:48:00 -
[151]
signed.
CCP Report it the way you see it, you will **** off some people yes, but all media does that. If your holding off for universal popularity then your gonna be holding off for a long time.
I thought your reports were unbiased and objective. Don't listen to TTi
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Juju Mojo
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Posted - 2003.09.02 14:51:00 -
[152]
/signed
Bout time they stopped locking these.
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qrac
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:00:00 -
[153]
/signed
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Insanes numquam moriuntur! |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:05:00 -
[154]
It seems to me CCP is rather out of touch with their playerbase in deciding to can the scope.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:07:00 -
[155]
Agreed.
Convert Stations
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ReapZ
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:07:00 -
[156]
/signed
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Keep this thread clean.
- Orestes |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:07:00 -
[157]
/signed
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |
Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:09:00 -
[158]
Quote:
It seems to me CCP is rather out of touch with their playerbase in deciding to can the scope.
1. They didn't can the Scope.
2. The reason they stopped reporting on player actions was because they were getting negative feedback from.. you guessed it.. some of the playerbase
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Lliad
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:11:00 -
[159]
/signed
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:17:00 -
[160]
/signed
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-=Fountain Alliance High Council Member=- |
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Evil Bunny
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:21:00 -
[161]
/signed
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Victim
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:21:00 -
[162]
/signed
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Everyone deserves to die.
I just do my part.
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Guiermes
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:23:00 -
[163]
/Signed
Having not read the other 8 pages, Who was the brainiac who decided to shut it down?
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:41:00 -
[164]
/signed
¼©¼
a history |
Crescend
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:42:00 -
[165]
/signed
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:45:00 -
[166]
/signed
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Heritor
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:45:00 -
[167]
X
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Recondite
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:45:00 -
[168]
/signed with a passion
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:51:00 -
[169]
/signed
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:54:00 -
[170]
"2. The reason they stopped reporting on player actions was because they were getting negative feedback from.. you guessed it.. some of the playerbase"
Then ignore these people :)
They are complainers :p (And carebears).
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:57:00 -
[171]
Quote:
"2. The reason they stopped reporting on player actions was because they were getting negative feedback from.. you guessed it.. some of the playerbase"
Then ignore these people :)
They are complainers :p (And carebears).
And I wonder if the complaints were this numerous?
_______________________________
Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene! |
SavX
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Posted - 2003.09.02 15:58:00 -
[172]
/signed ;)
Don't Kill The Corp.. Kill the Suppliers. |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:00:00 -
[173]
That's a good point Athule.
To be honest, I dind't see a single post on the forums complaining about the Scope.
I am sure there could have been one or two that I missed.
Now, its impossible to ignore the overwhelming playerbase support for the scope.
It was content.
It was fun.
It didn't hurt anything. (Except possibly a few thin-skinned peoples feelings).
So why is it gone?
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Damaclease
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:01:00 -
[174]
WTF!!!
bring it back asap we want news (if this was america we would be screaming freedom of speech)
don't make me bring out my alts to sign this if i have to, to get it back i will
BRING BACK SCOPE
Damaclease
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Yarrick
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:03:00 -
[175]
---Signed---
_____________________________________________
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Casey Jens
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:04:00 -
[176]
our press corp must be weak kneed......please bring back the scope...as a ceo in production in civ. space, the news from the frontier was like a breath of fresh air.
News, regardless of format r/l or in EVE is always biased to some extent...we know how to read between the lines.......
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EveJunkie
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:06:00 -
[177]
Yup, Bring it back please.
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Sewell
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:09:00 -
[178]
/signed
You can never please everyone.
As for ppl complaining that the Scope was "biased", they just have to learn that there is no "truth" out there - just different opinions. To believe anything else is just childish and naive.
So please bring back one of the best things seen in this game so far!
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:10:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Lao Tzu on 02/09/2003 16:09:57
/Signed
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Femme Fatal
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:13:00 -
[180]
/signed
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GraveDigger
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:22:00 -
[181]
***signed*** Bring it back..
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:23:00 -
[182]
/signed
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Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:25:00 -
[183]
Well the /signed says, long haired freaky people, need not apply.
Im Yo Huckleberreh |
Ireniicus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:26:00 -
[184]
~signed~
I thought the Scope was extremely good. If this is canne dits just gonna make those that were instrumental in its demise all the more unpopular if that is possible
Ireniicus
CEO, Storm Industrial Fleet
Member of Small Corps Alliance
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Lady Jaxx
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:26:00 -
[185]
/signed
Polaris send it back to me!
"University of Caille 0wnz 4ll j00 l4m3rz" |
tigress
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:28:00 -
[186]
Yes! This was the real thing that made STORY/EVENT driven stuff! I dont understand this at all!
Corps should take responsibility for their actions! And people should not BELIEVE all the read.. *sigh* I thought the average age was like 25?
--
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Zorgan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:28:00 -
[187]
/signed |
Data Loss
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:30:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Data Loss on 02/09/2003 16:31:18
Edited by: Data Loss on 02/09/2003 16:30:24
/signed
X
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pandoran
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:35:00 -
[189]
Quote:
Edited by: Data Loss on 02/09/2003 16:31:18
Edited by: Data Loss on 02/09/2003 16:30:24
/signed
bring it back
X
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Marquise
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:36:00 -
[190]
/signed
It was nice to see what was going on in the big wide world of Eve... not all of us travel dozens of jumps every night and see/hear everything thats going on.
I do however agree that *ALL* reports should have the permission of *BOTH* sides before posting
Marquise
"In the end it all came down to one wonderfully simple principle: that happiness and vanity are incompatible."
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Melchidael
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:38:00 -
[191]
/signed
Please bring back the Scope: it was quite well written and highly informative. |
The Editor
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:38:00 -
[192]
/signed
Morkt's Defence Weekly
ISK Rewards for solid newsleeds - Confidentiality Guarenteed! |
Annuis Drak
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:40:00 -
[193]
/signed
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Anst Yorsen
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:40:00 -
[194]
/signed
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Mikka MacKern
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:40:00 -
[195]
/signed
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Lycan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:41:00 -
[196]
/signed
why pay for it when we can take it |
Ravna Mayer
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:41:00 -
[197]
/signed
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Fortoye Drak
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:42:00 -
[198]
/signed
Press Liason
Big-Bang Burger Bar - Neocom Site |
Darrien
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:45:00 -
[199]
Edited by: Darrien on 02/09/2003 17:55:26
/signed
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Jack Crow
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:45:00 -
[200]
/Signed
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Trent Vector
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:45:00 -
[201]
/Signed
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Dagny
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:48:00 -
[202]
Signed |
Reynolds
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:49:00 -
[203]
Signed
Have you answered The Call?Masuat'AA Matari |
McWatt
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Posted - 2003.09.02 16:57:00 -
[204]
signed
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Erich d'Artox
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:01:00 -
[205]
We need the scope!!!
Erich aka Erich d'Artox // Featherweight // Traveller |
WindWalker
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:07:00 -
[206]
Criticism is an ever present characteristic of our nature. It is to be expected. And there are a few who will bang the drum of criticism VERY loudly. More often than not, they are a minority with their criticism founded for their own self-centered interests.
There is no way to satisfy each individual. To expect so is na´ve. But to cow tow to such a critical minority is unconscionable.
I urge you to reconsider the future of “The Scope”.
/em signs petition.
____________________
Keep your hands on your isk and your eyes on your six
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TekRa
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:11:00 -
[207]
/signed 
> With the lights out it's less dangerous. |
T'Kahr
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:12:00 -
[208]
/signed
No offense, but if you're not reporting on player news, what are you gonna report about? Players getting stuck? Again no offense, but that is old news
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Jexter
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:29:00 -
[209]
/signed
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:32:00 -
[210]
/signed
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:33:00 -
[211]
/signed
[G] - Pink Power
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DarkMatters
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:33:00 -
[212]
bring it back!
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Deadmetal
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:33:00 -
[213]
/signed
"Human Nature - If someone put a big red button in a remote mountain cave with a sign on it 'End of the world button!! Do not push!!.. the paint wouldn't have a chance to dry." |
Aeryn Sarum
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:35:00 -
[214]
/signed
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Aissa
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:35:00 -
[215]
/signed
"First, if any opinion is compelled to silence, that opinion may, for aught we can certainly know, be true. To deny this is to assume our own infallibility.
Secondly, though the silenced opinion be an error, it may, and very commonly does, contain a portion of truth; and since the general or prevailing opinion on any object is rarely or never the whole truth, it is only by the collision of adverse opinions that the remainder of the truth has any chance of being supplied.
Thirdly, even if the received opinion be not only true, but the whole truth; unless it is suffered to be, and actually is, vigorously and earnestly contested, it will, by most of those who receive it, be held in the manner of a prejudice, with little comprehension or feeling of its rational grounds. And not only this, but, fourthly, the meaning of the doctrine itself will be in danger of being lost, or enfeebled, and deprived of its vital effect on the character and conduct: the dogma becoming a mere formal profession, inefficacious for good, but cumbering the ground, and preventing the growth of any real and heartfelt conviction, from reason or personal experience.
~ JS Mill, 'On Liberty'
~Aissa
Nomad, Dictionary and Encyclopedia of The Regulators |
Cargo Container
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:50:00 -
[216]
/signed |
Sylena
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:51:00 -
[217]
/signed
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Xperosis
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:51:00 -
[218]
::: Signed
[When four men sit down to conspire, 3 are fools are 4th is a government agent ]
[ Technology is the essence of humanity ] |
DeltaFlux
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:54:00 -
[219]
OMFG!! They got rid of the scope? This was the most interesting thing to happen in Eve in a long time. So what if it gave away some information? That information was obtained somehow and could just as easily have been posted by anyone on any of the forums.
/signed
No signature... yet. |
Karash Amerius
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:56:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Karash Amerius on 02/09/2003 18:10:52
CCP, this is your game. Have the balls to run it.
/signed proudly
Edit: Where are the TTI signatures? 
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Tallinlen
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Posted - 2003.09.02 17:59:00 -
[221]
signed
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Life is a sexually transmitted disease.
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(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) |
Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:00:00 -
[222]
dam, wish I saw this sooner.
/signed
Big Mistake CCP, HUGE!
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Aelius
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:01:00 -
[223]
signed 
Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station |
Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:01:00 -
[224]
signed
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:04:00 -
[225]
/signed
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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:12:00 -
[226]
Bring it back.
TF.
The LBC.
http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:17:00 -
[227]
/Signed
.....................................
Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Stem
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:24:00 -
[228]
/Signed
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Angelsfist
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:25:00 -
[229]
signed
bring Scope back plz
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Liscia Thierese
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:34:00 -
[230]
Signed.
<rant>
Sorry Athule, we'll sign the petition but you're DAMN right we'll flame. Is it me or does CCP instantly perform a New Labour everytime there is the merest hint of controversy?
Of course some reports will be heavily biased (just like certain segments of the media tow their party line) - since we are paying customers and are bound to a legal agreement (EULA), technically we're not children. So why do CCP continually treat us like children, removing threads or locking threads in an overly protective paternalistic fashion.
Let the community police our own threads! We're perfectly capable - after all, we must possess some literacy skills and be of sound mind to be able to READ and ACCEPT and be BOUND by the EULA, right?
Way to go CCP for trying to suffocate the player community and player dynamism. I hope that EVE-I.com will publish player reports in a non-partisan manner.
Consider my name added to the list.
</rant>
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Draken
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:35:00 -
[231]
/signed
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:41:00 -
[232]
signed
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. |
Krondus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:42:00 -
[233]
Full support here
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Krondus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:42:00 -
[234]
Full support here
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Ziggy Startrail
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:42:00 -
[235]
signed
Save the whales, feed the hungry, FREE THE MALLOCS. |
Tallain
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:53:00 -
[236]
Signed
Tallain
CEO, Sunrunner Corp.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2003.09.02 18:53:00 -
[237]
Add me to the list.
___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie// |
Cruise
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:00:00 -
[238]
/signed
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad capul tuum saxum immane mittam.
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Skarn Lonewolf
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:00:00 -
[239]
Edited by: Skarn Lonewolf on 02/09/2003 19:02:04
/signed
For ppl who missed those articles they are available on general player-run Eve websites.
No sig, this is making lag this forum, mine is 59 octets !
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Karth Haross
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:02:00 -
[240]
*signed*
I was hoping thye gallant attack of the borg fleet against m0o would get reported, but it seems it won't have the chance.
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Nariko Tenrai
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:07:00 -
[241]
I passed links to those Scope reports around to several people I know, and at least one has resolved to give EVE a try as a result.
C'mon guys - you can't argue with new subscriptions, can you? ^_^
Signed, and underlined!
- - - -
I have measured and described the stars, their great and countless multitude. What man has seen their revolutions and entrances? Not even the angels see their number, yet I have recorded all their names.
- The Book of the Secrets of Enoch, Jewish Pseudepigrapha
We won't talk about how many cruisers I lost this weekend, nor how many nice railguns, or T2 enhancers. We're going to skip right over that. We're going to talk about my new Raven. It is like flying a small city, and the city's only export is missiles.
- Azeraphel |
Mr Blue
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:09:00 -
[242]
signed!
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Aurik Ulanti
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:10:00 -
[243]
Quote:
Signed, and underlined!
Amen to that!
*Signs*!
"In the end you will remember not the words of your enemies, but the silence of your friends" |
Thav Otoli
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:13:00 -
[244]
BRING IT BACK!
CEO: Odyssey Corporation
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Parallax 7D
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:15:00 -
[245]
I love the reports thus far. As for reporting objectively, I say just do your best. Your not a pro news service, just a game news service. It adds so much when we get an overview narration of current events.
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Marge: But, Mr. Ambassador, how are we going to get home?
Ambassador: Beats me. Try getting a job and earning some money. That's what *I* did. By the way, ambassador's taken.
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Yelram
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:15:00 -
[246]
/signed
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Lan2
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:16:00 -
[247]
/signed
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Racknan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:16:00 -
[248]
come on, bring it back!!!
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Stellero
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:17:00 -
[249]
please say it isn't so!
The scope was great!
You can't hope to report everything, not even in the real news. Please bring it back!
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Andrea Jade
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:22:00 -
[250]
well if CCP ignore this, then well, their stupid, officially stupid :)
/signed/
Financial Division Commander
Everlasting Vendetta
Stain Alliance
-www.everlastingvendetta.com-
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:26:00 -
[251]
Don't bow to pressure dudes.. Report on player stuff too !! :)
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Battle Roach
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:29:00 -
[252]
signed
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swan lazarus
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:30:00 -
[253]
 signed
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Caius Cassius
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:42:00 -
[254]
The one useful thing that's come from this boards lately and they bury it.
jesus christ.
So, if I want to get something removed from this board all I have to do is raise a little "corporate favoritism" whine? Just how WEAK is Polaris? Is there even a single one of them with anything like backbone?
Okay, Polaris, let me educate you on the reality of the game, because it's obvious you are too busy cringing under a couple of whiners.
EVE IS BORING.
You have to mine for DAYS to be able to afford a ship, only to get it blown out from under you in 30 seconds of gate-camping. And when it DOES get blown up, it doesn't mean a damned thing. That's right, NOTHING. Just some loser whose teacher yelled at him who's going to take out his anger by ruining someone else's day. "Why did you pod me?" "Because I could." Yeah, that's GREAT gameplay.
Or some little "raid" goes on that maybe 50 out of the entire playerbase get to participate in. Oh yeah, baby. That fills me with confidence that I too will get to participate in a 30-second fight, the culmination of my Eve career! Earth to CCP: Your "live events" are weak and irrelevant. They lack meaning, they lack impact, and they lack interest. And nobody gets to participate! They might as well never exist.
So, FINALLY, the players make something happen that isn't deadly dull and boring. FINALLY there's a war for a REASON. Everything that makes us watch the History Channel is happening right here. The news is big, the news is relevant, and the players are doing exactly what CCP had hoped would happen. The reporting was well-written, and made me actually want to play the game.
The first good thing to happen in Eve, the first event worthy of coverage, the first event worthy of telling the outside world about...
And you fall silent on it, because of a complete lack of courage.
More education. No matter WHAT you do, someone out there is going to haul out a "favoritism" whine, because you've taught them that this is the way to make you jump through hoops. Do what you're told, or we'll cry "favoritism!" And you WILL do what you're told, and you'll do it NOW.
The online game biz is rough. You're going to get criticized. If you can't handle that, then get out of the way and admit that you don't have what it takes.
Oh, wait. You just did.
The Scope is now completely irrelevant, in the same way that the rest of the one-paragraph "carefully constructed backstory" is irrelevant. Scope is going to dry up and blow away, and nobody will care or notice.
Good going. Good decision. Yup, well worthy of respect.
Either restore Scope to what it was, or shut it down and go back to passing off one-paragraph zero-relevance "news flashes" as content.
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:55:00 -
[255]
Qball puts his X on the paper.
I found it to be a good read. And that was a really fair look at the Venal Region also. I know I've been in the middle of it the whole time.
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"OMG IT'S TRAMMEL 2.0!!!!"
-QBall
And
QQ is QQ |
Imperium
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Posted - 2003.09.02 19:57:00 -
[256]
Signed.
Regards,
Imp;) |
Reina Heikan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:05:00 -
[257]
I would add my signature to this as well; not to report on some player events simply because it is impossible to report on all player events is an absurd argument, indefensible either in an in-game or real life context. Does Polaris not run any events because they cannot run events for all players? Do real news services cease to report on events because they cannot report on everything happening in the entire world?
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1of1
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:08:00 -
[258]
/Signed.
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DrPRoberts
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:11:00 -
[259]
~signed~ Very entertaining reads, and not at all biased IMHO. Yeah I noticed how TTi is silent here too.. Pretty pathetic of them.
Quote:
EVE IS BORING.
You have to mine for DAYS to be able to afford a ship, only to get it blown out from under you in 30 seconds of gate-camping. And when it DOES get blown up, it doesn't mean a damned thing. That's right, NOTHING. Just some loser whose teacher yelled at him who's going to take out his anger by ruining someone else's day. "Why did you pod me?" "Because I could." Yeah, that's GREAT gameplay.
~snip~
So, FINALLY, the players make something happen that isn't deadly dull and boring. FINALLY there's a war for a REASON. Everything that makes us watch the History Channel is happening right here. The news is big, the news is relevant, and the players are doing exactly what CCP had hoped would happen. The reporting was well-written, and made me actually want to play the game.
The first good thing to happen in Eve, the first event worthy of coverage, the first event worthy of telling the outside world about...
And you fall silent on it, because of a complete lack of courage.
~snip~
Either restore Scope to what it was, or shut it down and go back to passing off one-paragraph zero-relevance "news flashes" as content.
Look fella, Eve may be boring for some people, newbies and non-roleplayers mostly I'd say...
But a LOT of us really enjoy playing Eve.. it's a question of involvement and immersion.. I roleplay heavily and interact with other players.. If you don't enjoy mining or npc farming THEN WHY DO YOU DO IT???? Nobody is forced to do all that crap. You don't need a battleship.. And even if you do there's no need to be a grunt to get it. Plenty of ways to make cash and have fun at the same time.
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Caillech
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:19:00 -
[260]
the scope may have been using favoratism ..but it doesnt matter to me ... i liked having the scope around :)
consider the petition /signed
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Caillech
Director of Sexual Healing
2003.08.22 16:18:53 -----
Your 1200mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Small Secure Container, wrecking for 1102.9 damage
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BigBanjo
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:20:00 -
[261]
Bring back the SCOPE!!! |
BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:25:00 -
[262]
Do Bring back the Post, gives an interactive dimension to the game.
Graciously Signed,
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Operator 9 |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:32:00 -
[263]
Signed.
CCP - how can you justidy removing the Scope?
It was / IS what EVE is ALL ABOUT!!
Please re-instate it.
Many thanks.
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:32:00 -
[264]
/signed
On vacations (need a new sig too) |
Padaxes
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:41:00 -
[265]
SIGNED!!!!!
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Tarjan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:45:00 -
[266]
I want scope back to
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.09.02 20:59:00 -
[267]
BRING IT BACK YOU PRO TTI DOGS!!!!!
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Lyikka
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:13:00 -
[268]
bring it back!
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Bluebeard
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:16:00 -
[269]
Edited by: Bluebeard on 02/09/2003 21:25:00
signed
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EroniX
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:20:00 -
[270]
*signed*
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Jul Nantu
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:23:00 -
[271]
Signed.
Please bring back The Scope. |
Teelmaster
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:26:00 -
[272]
/signed
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Chani Atreides
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:31:00 -
[273]
signed ! bring back the scope !
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Marie Eve
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:32:00 -
[274]
bouuuh CCP !
/signed ! 
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Muad'did
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:33:00 -
[275]
/signed
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Redfish
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:33:00 -
[276]
shame on you, CCP!
Bring back teh Scope! (not just some neutered ghost of what it was)
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Scampi Friti
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:40:00 -
[277]
bring back scope reports
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McVenner
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:44:00 -
[278]
/Signed
Was always an engaging read, bringing back 'The Scope' would be a benefit IMO to EVE's growth not the opposite.
McV |
Manfred Doomhammer
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Posted - 2003.09.02 21:47:00 -
[279]
/signed
----
Manfred Doomhammer
Fleet Admiral
CEO ShadowTec Inc.
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Rick
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:03:00 -
[280]
put my name down
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Melonie
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:04:00 -
[281]
Please bring back the reports on player events.
Un-nerf the scope!
/signed
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Dell Boy
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:08:00 -
[282]
Signed
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Feronia
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:23:00 -
[283]
Signed
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Owyn
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:32:00 -
[284]
Strongly agree! The Scope - as it was those last few days - was one of the BEST developments yet in this game! PLEASE RETURN it to how it was!!!
Owyn
Commander, Defenders of Order |
Darkwolf
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:39:00 -
[285]
Signed.
The Scope, while doomed to be inflammatory to some, was by far and away the best read I've ever had on EVE and events therein.
Sorry to say it - but in a game like this, PLAYERS make the news, not "events". NPCs are just clay to fill in the gaps.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:39:00 -
[286]
scope scope
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:40:00 -
[287]
Signed
"Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are
the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is
punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the
world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
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bansh
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:42:00 -
[288]
CCP's OOG tactics are killing any want and desire i have to play the game and give them more money. |
Silicon
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:47:00 -
[289]
What?!?!?! are you seriously telling me that the news got shutdown because a single corporation complained. Well I've been in 3 corporations and on behalf of all of the I want Scope back. I thought it was great...
One of the best "Content" things to happen to Eve...
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:53:00 -
[290]
This is so important I'm signing the damn thing twice!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
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StevieW
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Posted - 2003.09.02 22:56:00 -
[291]
/signed
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Grandwazir
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:01:00 -
[292]
/signed
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PsychoClown
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:02:00 -
[293]
Why was it removed???
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ChopperMX
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:07:00 -
[294]
Signed
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Crownan
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:19:00 -
[295]
Aye!
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Dosh
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:21:00 -
[296]
X (signed)
Yup, bring The Scope back.
We were talking about providing Scope with some damning evidences, believing that finally there just might be a way to release highly sensitive materials without compromising our sources. Well, it is not gonna happen now.
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Morn Hayland
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:24:00 -
[297]
got halfway through reading a really interesting article about the alliance came back 5 minutes later and it gone doh!
bring it back
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calliope
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:26:00 -
[298]
Got my vote - bring it back!
Biased or not (I happen to think not), they were intelligently written, informative pieces on the EVE universe.
They pierced that gloomy veil of inter-corp politics, shady goings on as well as major news events.
They were information for the masses and were the kind of thing that made new players feel that they new what was going on (and therefore encouraged them to stay). Please, please do bring them back.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:35:00 -
[299]
Signed
For a moment i actually though the game had content :P
then they deleted it all :(
Mercenary | The Azath |
Egil FrostPaw
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:41:00 -
[300]
Agreed
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Silinary
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Posted - 2003.09.02 23:44:00 -
[301]
/signed
Found them very intresting and alive.
You can do anything you set your mind to. |
Rizick
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:01:00 -
[302]
/sign
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Hakaar Atreydes
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:05:00 -
[303]
Signed!!!!
Down with censorship - fight the power!
Hakaar Atreydes
Chief Financial Officer - Enigma Federation
Website: http://www.enigmafederation.com/index.htm
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Syphin
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:06:00 -
[304]
The people have spoken
BRING BACK THE SCOPE
=====signed=======
- - - - - - -
Disclaimer
I take no responsibility for the spelling or grammar usage in the above statement Nor do i agree with its ideas and or claims Or even acknowledge its existance. |
Yoshokun
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:08:00 -
[305]
Edited by: Yoshokun on 03/09/2003 00:30:31
* Yoshokun signs in support of The Scope.
Ragnar's interview with The Scope has been posted in the TTI forums for the public's consumption. Click here to read: http://tti.fragland.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6270
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Yuushi
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:10:00 -
[306]
/signed |
SavageRabbit
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:12:00 -
[307]
signed on the dotted line
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Yalson
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:13:00 -
[308]
Edited by: Yalson on 03/09/2003 00:12:59
<scribbles three crossess on a piece of paper>
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Yalson
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:18:00 -
[309]
And if anyone asks.. they forced me to!
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<Yoshokun> http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=29649 <-- Guys, if you want, you can sign in support of The Scope.
<Leblivyl> who shot them down?
<callidus> TTI of course. TTI does everything.
<Leblivyl> lol.. was going to sign in but wanted to wait for TTI to take a stand ;)
<Yoshokun> Yes, it was the grand controlling hand of TTI that destroys all things people love, including furry bunny wabbits and Christmas.
<callidus> yeah, velvet glove on an iron fist, etc.
<Vigo> So THAT'S why there's no fuzzy bunnies in space...
<Yoshokun> Yes. =*(
<Vigo> It's OUR fault. I was wondering.
<callidus> and incidentally, i d like to compliment our cook on a most delicious rabbit rizotto i had last night
* Yoshokun seconds that.
<Vigo> And the hasenpfeffer the night before...yum!
* Yoshokun nods in agreement.
---
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Beseb
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:19:00 -
[310]
/signed sealed and delivered.
The Scope was the next best thing to being there!
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Ctrl
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:25:00 -
[311]
Bring it back effness!!!
______________________
I liek eating crayons
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:26:00 -
[312]
/signed
_____________________________________
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
"Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
Grymwulf
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:34:00 -
[313]
/signed
___________________________________________
General Protection Fault
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TerminusX
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Posted - 2003.09.03 00:54:00 -
[314]
Bring back the scope.
Signed
Divine Retribution - My name is TerminusX, prepare to die. |
Kennian
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:02:00 -
[315]
Signed...
sealed..
delivered...
theres something very important here that CCP has neglected to think of in their dancing around several issues... if this is going to be primarily player driven game there NEEDS..no...there HAS TO BE a NPC news service to get a relitively unbiased view of things to the masses. this is a requirement. PC news services do not have access to polaris's resources. therefor it only makes sence that they do something resembleing "the Scope"
please reinstate this nessisary function post haste as it only adds to the flavor, and fun of this game, which, honestly, untill it heated up was rather dry
] |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:10:00 -
[316]
Signed.
Part with interviews of affected parties was very good.
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Intoccabile
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:20:00 -
[317]
Bring back The Scope plz.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:20:00 -
[318]
Can I sign twice? Or is that voting in Florida? I am confused.
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Kel Morian
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:25:00 -
[319]
/signed
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Everyone starts out as strangers, it's how we end up that matters. |
Iamb0red
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:30:00 -
[320]
signed
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Arch Aggelos
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:33:00 -
[321]
Signed! Bring back the scope!
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dead dude
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:33:00 -
[322]
BRING BACK THE SCOPE PLEASE.
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Chucky
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:34:00 -
[323]
I'll toss my hat in too
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
Threadcrapper
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:34:00 -
[324]
/signed
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Aztro
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:44:00 -
[325]
Signed.
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jigga
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:45:00 -
[326]
I would like to see the Scope back again with its original mandate and scope.
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Black Otto
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:56:00 -
[327]
Go, Scope!
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LittleFu
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Posted - 2003.09.03 01:59:00 -
[328]
Yeah bring it BACK!
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:02:00 -
[329]
Signed.
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I used to be in the FA. I like cookies. Eve Radio is teh pwn. |
Masi
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:19:00 -
[330]
Bring it back imo. CCP has ****ed me off lately with some stupid stuff... yet again they do it again
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:23:00 -
[331]
Quote:
Great!!! lots of very good posts. pls no flames, we want this thread kept open!
Bring it Back CCP You can see for Yourself that there are ALOT of people requesting this of all races Security ratings - + and Job titles.....
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Pann
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:30:00 -
[332]
The Scope is still here, although the purpose it serves is to keep the players informed about events and happenings related to the officially sanctioned events produced by CCP and the Aurora Project, the branch of Polaris that does events. Players had asked for a place where they could get news about our events and that's why The Scope was created.
The reason for disallowing The Scope to include player events, gossip and politics is that Polaris must remain neutral and not become involved with player happenings. That should be done by the players themselves.
I don't want to let too much out of the bag, but something much cooler is coming, an opportunity for fan/news sites to get a bit of inside scoop and for the players themselves to be able to send in news flashes that will not only be added to the Eve site, but also appear on the ingame bulletin boards.
We hope that this will quench your thirst for the news, rumors and gossip you love to read and allow more players to participate in the process. Keep an eye on the site. More information is coming in the next few days.
Eve Community Manager
[email protected]
CCP |
MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:33:00 -
[333]
... er ... um ... cool - I guess ...
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:36:00 -
[334]
I look forward to the features you have described, Pann.
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-=Fountain Alliance High Council Member=- |
Shadow Walker
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Posted - 2003.09.03 02:50:00 -
[335]
signed
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.03 03:18:00 -
[336]
Quote:
The Scope is still here, although the purpose it serves is to keep the players informed about events and happenings related to the officially sanctioned events produced by CCP and the Aurora Project, the branch of Polaris that does events. Players had asked for a place where they could get news about our events and that's why The Scope was created.
The reason for disallowing The Scope to include player events, gossip and politics is that Polaris must remain neutral and not become involved with player happenings. That should be done by the players themselves.
I don't want to let too much out of the bag, but something much cooler is coming, an opportunity for fan/news sites to get a bit of inside scoop and for the players themselves to be able to send in news flashes that will not only be added to the Eve site, but also appear on the ingame bulletin boards.
We hope that this will quench your thirst for the news, rumors and gossip you love to read and allow more players to participate in the process. Keep an eye on the site. More information is coming in the next few days.
and any process whereby you decide whats good news to display and what isnt is exactly the same - open to bias and favouritism and censorship and contolled by polaris. Just you save time on not having to write it.
As such you should have stuck by The Scope because you are doing nothing different here except trying bo buy a way out of a PR disastor and fudge the issue.
Really - either you're going to be involved with news or you are not. There is no half-way house and "weather and weddings" won't cut it.
Judging by current propaganda efforts stay out of news entirely...Its not your forte.
My opinion which, until moderated otherwise, I remain entitled to and will continue to exercise.
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2003.09.03 03:37:00 -
[337]
Please come back. We love you SCOPE
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |
Stymie Beard
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Posted - 2003.09.03 03:42:00 -
[338]
/signed and /signed again.
Well, I enjoyed it. So there then.
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dead dude
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Posted - 2003.09.03 03:58:00 -
[339]
signed /, bring it back now
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Sailor
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Posted - 2003.09.03 04:25:00 -
[340]
Signed
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.09.03 04:43:00 -
[341]
I VOTE for them back...
they might want to do 2 things...
Make 1 section of scope for player reporting...
2nd section for eve events etc...
that way they can be both different departments...
that would keep any idea about ccp's events in eve seperated from the player ones...
if people had a hard time and saying all that lame stuff...
support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo
my MoBlog |
Sirrah
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Posted - 2003.09.03 05:27:00 -
[342]
I want my SCOPE.
Freedom of the press!!!
http://www.oberon-inc.com/
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ChandraGupta
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Posted - 2003.09.03 05:53:00 -
[343]
How come no TTI people want the Scope back?
opens some eyes huh?
...anyhow back on topic ... BRING BACK THE SCOPE.
SIGNED:)
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N0sferathu
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Posted - 2003.09.03 05:53:00 -
[344]
signed
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frstkor13
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:20:00 -
[345]
bring the scope back.
(signed)
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:34:00 -
[346]
Great, the Scope will just be an "in-game news" mirror, bland and boring.
Wish you'd bring it back too, but forget it, you've made up your mind and ain't budging. There are a few adjectives that could describe this kind of behavior exactly, and I'm thinking them. |
Temerity
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:36:00 -
[347]
/signed
Freedom of speach is good.
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nonsequitur
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:50:00 -
[348]
/signed.
I cant believe they took it down to start with. It was by far the only thing on this board worth reading.
nonsequitur...
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Asimov
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Posted - 2003.09.03 06:51:00 -
[349]
I maybe in TTI but I for liked The Scope for the content it brought with it. Signed. |
Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:05:00 -
[350]
Please bring back The Scope!
I found it's reporting to be unbiased, and refreshing to read. Please do not buckle under pressure. Keep reporting the FACTS, this is what people want to hear abount.
Sarkos - Oracle
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Visionary
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:05:00 -
[351]
[x] for EvE'S yellow press "The Scope" ;)
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"just my 2 isk" |
Cougaress
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:29:00 -
[352]
Signed!
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Nehver
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:29:00 -
[353]
Edited by: Nehver on 03/09/2003 07:31:56
Quote:
The Scope is still here, although the purpose it serves is to keep the players informed about events and happenings related to the officially sanctioned events produced by CCP and the Aurora Project, the branch of Polaris that does events. Players had asked for a place where they could get news about our events and that's why The Scope was created.
The reason for disallowing The Scope to include player events, gossip and politics is that Polaris must remain neutral and not become involved with player happenings. That should be done by the players themselves.
Why cant Polaris get involved ?
If its because they have to remain neutral, then the events they stage should also be neutral. And are they that ?
................
Jeg ville aldrig spise fÕremave og t°rrede fisk, det skal man bo pÕ en ° i Atlanten for at vµre sk°r nok til at g°re. |
Slithereen
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:35:00 -
[354]
Signed!
_______________________________________________
"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Sirfrost
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:41:00 -
[355]
Come this murder on good gameplay!!
Bring it back!
/Signed
I worship my ex-CEO Gryning
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Belarius
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:59:00 -
[356]
Please bring it back, ,even if seperate entity from polaris...
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Nariko Tenrai
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Posted - 2003.09.03 07:59:00 -
[357]
Edited by: Nariko Tenrai on 03/09/2003 08:02:29
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The reason for disallowing The Scope to include player events, gossip and politics is that Polaris must remain neutral and not become involved with player happenings. That should be done by the players themselves.
If that's the final official position, I suppose I can't argue.
I can, however, disagree with the official position as emphatically as diplomacy allows.
It is because of Polaris' recognized neutrality that The Scope can safely observe and report events that would get most player-reporters shot to pieces. It is because we know Polaris must remain neutral that I trusted The Scope more than we would any purely player-run news source. I don't believe more than 50% of what I hear from any side in Venal. I believed a good 80% of The Scope. Getting that hard news made the game seem like it was fulfilling the promise I'd hoped it would when I first heard of it in the summer of 2000.
If I may be forgiven for seeming a bit accusatory, from where I sit as the average low-maintenance small corp player, Polaris spends so much time trying to avoid accruing any patina of partiality that I have yet to see them add anything constructive to the game beyond answering questions in the Help channel.
Stop nerfing yourselves out of fear. You were doing good work here.
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I have measured and described the stars, their great and countless multitude. What man has seen their revolutions and entrances? Not even the angels see their number, yet I have recorded all their names.
- The Book of the Secrets of Enoch, Jewish Pseudepigrapha
We won't talk about how many cruisers I lost this weekend, nor how many nice railguns, or T2 enhancers. We're going to skip right over that. We're going to talk about my new Raven. It is like flying a small city, and the city's only export is missiles.
- Azeraphel |
margerie dubois
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:00:00 -
[358]
Only good thing this game has presented in a long time... Please bring it back...
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:03:00 -
[359]
I'll sign...
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Soothsayer
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:31:00 -
[360]
signed
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Spliff Stumper
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:33:00 -
[361]
Finally some real content, and you remove it...
why?
BRING IT BACK!
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:43:00 -
[362]
Edited by: j0sephine on 03/09/2003 08:53:44
"The Scope is still here, although the purpose it serves is to keep the players informed about events and happenings related to the officially sanctioned events produced by CCP and the Aurora Project, the branch of Polaris that does events. Players had asked for a place where they could get news about our events and that's why The Scope was created.
The reason for disallowing The Scope to include player events, gossip and politics is that Polaris must remain neutral and not become involved with player happenings."
/boggle
... With all due respect, this makes no bloody sense whatsoever.
* Polaris is supposed to 'remain neutral and not become involved', yet at the same time there's dedicated branch of Polaris whose sole function is to interact with the players and to get them involved in CCP-organized events.
* how is the nerfed Scope supposed to report about official events and not the player events, when thanks to the efforts of the Aurora branch of the Polaris team to get the players involved, the official events essentially become player happenings, due to the players' participation in them and --as stated both by the Aurora team and the CCP members-- the outcome of these official events being actually shaped by the players?..
* Further to the point, as apparently the special team is able to do their work of getting the players involved while 'remaining neutral and uninvolved' itself, why can't the same neutral and uninvolved team handle the simple reporting of player happenings?.. After all, the only difference between the 100% player happenings and the official events is, the official events were somewhat pre-planned by the Polaris team.
* Finally, what about the suggestion made here to separate the Scope team from Polaris... thus removing the need for strict neutrality yadda yadda yadda as the separate Scope would no longer tarnish the image of pink-lettered team?..
... gah; would /sign again but... whatever. way to drop the ball, guys... :/
edit: i see at least 350+ people in this thread supporting the idea to have the Scope restored in its original form; as --according to provided info-- the reason to change the profile was player complaints, and presuming those were even more numerous if the CCP decision remains unchanged... just curious now, how many of such complaints were made?..
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:46:00 -
[363]
/signed
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Blueblooded
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:47:00 -
[364]
Yes!! bring the news to the people of EVE!
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"The royal blood is blue, hence my name"
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Eldariel
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:52:00 -
[365]
Edited by: Eldariel on 03/09/2003 09:10:32
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How come no TTI people want the Scope back?
I'd love to see it back - was a great read ... definitely a valued addition to the content imho
For the record, as far as I can tell the execs at TTI have no knowledge of a complaint originating from within TTI on this issue. Conspiracy theorists will dispute this of course... but such is life
Sounds like the new functionality Pann described will be a good step forward though ...
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Shauna
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Posted - 2003.09.03 08:55:00 -
[366]
/signed |
Raidek
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Posted - 2003.09.03 09:03:00 -
[367]
The scope was one of the best things ever to come out of Polaris. Its a shame that it was removed because of political correctness.
-Raidek
CEO, Sinister Corp.
Proud Member of the Curse Alliance
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.03 09:05:00 -
[368]
>>
* Polaris is supposed to 'remain neutral and not become involved', yet at the same time there's dedicated branch of Polaris whose sole function is to interact with the players and to get them involved in CCP-organized events.
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I have to agree with that, by that argument no Polaris staff member should ever take part in an event as an actor. Let's say I was an actor and I decided I had 4 enemies one of which is a primary-character enemy. Do I attack him first taking tha chance at a bit of revenge? Do I not attack him, hoping to avoid the accusation that I've targetted for reasons outside the role but in so doing cut him from the event?
If Scope can't be associated with Polaris, just split them up - make Scope an NPC corp where the members have no special benefits at all.
As to the bulletins idea - yes, great and it will be much appreciated and it does sound really cool. BUT it is not the same as the scope articles. Are we now going to be subjected to hundreds of 40 word semi-literate 'adverts' about how Corp X (apologies if there is a Corp X :-) ) Ownz Corp Y? And assuming these are going to be filtered, what happens when people claim discrimination when their article doesn't appear?
I want to read full articles and stories, well written and integrated into the game and forums. Scope was half the story, player stuff on the bulletin boards is the other half. If I had to lose one half it would have to be the bulletins.
I would say that the only thing you need to do is guarantee the right of response to people who are mentioned in articles. Just like was done in the case of Ragnar's interview after the Venal one. That is all that is required.
One would hope that player opinion counts for a lot, so far almost all have supported Scope. Doesn't that mean anything at all?
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Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene! |
Stryke
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Posted - 2003.09.03 09:10:00 -
[369]
Signed.
Normally I am just a reader. Not a poster.
But I agree, I enjoyed reading what was on the scope. It should be brought back.
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"Even a blind Squirrel finds a nut every now and then"
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Payn Bringer
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Posted - 2003.09.03 09:52:00 -
[370]
I hear ye!
Bring back 'e scope
Quote:
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.
Niccolo Machiavelli (1469 - 1527)
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ga'ia
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Posted - 2003.09.03 10:08:00 -
[371]
Edited by: ga'ia on 03/09/2003 11:46:01
/signed
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xeno calligan
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Posted - 2003.09.03 10:13:00 -
[372]
/signed
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Claus
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Posted - 2003.09.03 10:26:00 -
[373]
Please bring it back.
Signed!
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You have to go out of your mind from time to time to stay sane. |
Ferdinand Magellan
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Posted - 2003.09.03 10:31:00 -
[374]
Please bring it back.
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Ferdinand Magellan
Stellar Cartographer |
Xamand
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Posted - 2003.09.03 10:31:00 -
[375]
/signed
Xamand
CEO
Cirrius Technologies |
Koan
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:00:00 -
[376]
Coloured or not coloured, they are anyhow less slighted for a particular corporation than any player reports! And as stated before: Player created content is 10 times more interesting than any ôartificialö event could ever be. And who is to report about them? The winning/loosing corp??
BRING BACK THE SCOPE!!
/signed.
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The lord said: Let there be light, and there was... ...StarLight
Koan - The source of wisdom -< StarLight Inc. >- |
Khand
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:14:00 -
[377]
/me puts pen to paper.
I really do wonder what happens in the puzzle palace sometimes.
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:14:00 -
[378]
signed
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Everfire
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:16:00 -
[379]
BRING IT BACK!!!
Sorry ccp, much more interesting and you kill the community by doing this.
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Waxer
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:16:00 -
[380]
brign it back! absolutely.
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:29:00 -
[381]
Quote:
The Scope is still here, although the purpose it serves is to keep the players informed about events and happenings related to the officially sanctioned events produced by CCP and the Aurora Project, the branch of Polaris that does events.
This is a good beginning, but not enough as official events are rare.
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The reason for disallowing The Scope to include player events, gossip and politics is that Polaris must remain neutral and not become involved with player happenings.
Why? It would be a argument if Polaris hadn¦t the time to report about player events. But who else can report as neutral as possible as The Scope? A player corp, who is involved in a war? LOL
Bring back the full Scope!
*already signed*
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kelltoo
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:43:00 -
[382]
/signed
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:51:00 -
[383]
You should have learnt by now that no matter what you do, "some" players will moan. Some players will take it as their mission to stop anything worthwhile.
I would much rather have an official view (even if its biased or not) on player events than none at all.
I've no idea what goes on in the majority of the eve universe because I don't have time to follow and read every post made. The scope provided a great way to read a few posts and obtain a general overview.
Reporting on just eve official events is pointless, we've already got the eve news for that and many discussions that will occur in the senate.
Also if a report is seen as biased then let people fight it out in the senate forums. You can generally read between the lines in the majority of threads.
I say bring back scope. An official "player" news network is greatly required. Rather than taking your ball home, listen to the critisms you get and try to improve, and simply discard any insults.
You'll soon find that the majority of people who post are those with something to complain about, players who are satisfied with things will not generally post to say well done. (Unless of course you stop doing it)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Albar Gray
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Posted - 2003.09.03 11:56:00 -
[384]
The scope was the first forum i've found that consolidated the news into an easy to read selection without all the usual junk posts.
If an individual corp is mentioned, just give the chance to view the article. If they have an issue, let them add a reply to the item.
Don't let the rich buy their way out of having their underhand dealings aired in public. Stand up for your rights as reporters to speak the truth.
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IÆm not schizophrenic...
ThatÆs my alt
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.09.03 12:19:00 -
[385]
As far as I'm concerned, The Scope can tell everyone 'Drunkenmaster fondles hamsters in the back of his Osprey', and I'd still vote for them to stay. They have made a number of mistakes (mainly not asking the 'alledged' if what they are about to print is true (case in point: TTi giving pirates free BS's (where's mine?))) but I've not seen a news source that doesn't make mistakes.
My vote is in: Bring back the scope.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.03 12:26:00 -
[386]
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As far as I'm concerned, The Scope can tell everyone 'Drunkenmaster fondles hamsters in the back of his Osprey'
My God! That's just sick, perverted, and inhumane!
You actually fly an Osprey?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
daedulus
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Posted - 2003.09.03 12:50:00 -
[387]
/signed
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Pann
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Posted - 2003.09.03 13:11:00 -
[388]
Please see Interstellar Correspondents Wanted to learn more about the upcoming news service that's in development.
Eve Community Manager
[email protected]
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