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Dyner
Minmatar Auraxian Irregulars The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.06.15 14:24:00 -
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hmm, has anyone noticed that the ferox is NOT designed to effectively use medium rails? i used QuickFit with all my current skills set to max and i was still only able to fit 5rails and 2launchers, but wasn't able to do much in the way of med/low slots...and i just dont feel comfortable with the setup (seems like it'd go *pop* way to fast) as opposed to the Rokh, which has a very large powergrid
now before anyone says anything, i'm lookin at my Rokh now and i have NO powergrid boosters..and i still have 309MW and 4CPU with 6 T2 rails and 2 T2 launchers. i'm left wondering if the ferox should have a slight boost in the powergrid ---------------------------------------------------
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Chirinako
Caldari KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.08.18 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dyner hmm, has anyone noticed that the ferox is NOT designed to effectively use medium rails? i used QuickFit with all my current skills set to max and i was still only able to fit 5rails and 2launchers, but wasn't able to do much in the way of med/low slots...and i just dont feel comfortable with the setup (seems like it'd go *pop* way to fast) as opposed to the Rokh, which has a very large powergrid
now before anyone says anything, i'm lookin at my Rokh now and i have NO powergrid boosters..and i still have 309MW and 4CPU with 6 T2 rails and 2 T2 launchers. i'm left wondering if the ferox should have a slight boost in the powergrid
Ferox is either designed as close range with missiles or longrange with rails. anyone with half decent skills can get 120 km optimal with the ferox, maxed skills if i'm correct can get to 135km optimal range. Unless you're set up for flying in a fleet, you should never stick rails on a ferox. It is not a closerange gunboat but stick a ferox at 130km and it is extremely dangerous to smaller ships. Also at that range and in a fleet you really do not have to worry about powergrid issues. I don't have my setup handy at the moment but I can fit 5 250mm Railgun II's on there with quite a few shield hardeners, 2 tracking enhancers and a magstab and it does fine.
Obviously closerange is different, you only ever use missiles closerange in a ferox. Using rails is stupid. You can get away with blasters occasionally, I've found they're very good as a shock tactic and you can tank extremely efficiently with blasters fitted. I've got out of a 4 v 1 situation with 3 kills to my name in a blaster ferox before.
Very versatile ship if you know what you're doing, and if you're decently skilled. Just know its' roles.
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Gerod Theron
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Posted - 2007.11.12 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Gerod Theron on 12/11/2007 05:53:20
Originally by: Dyner hmm, has anyone noticed that the ferox is NOT designed to effectively use medium rails? i used QuickFit with all my current skills set to max and i was still only able to fit 5rails and 2launchers, but wasn't able to do much in the way of med/low slots...and i just dont feel comfortable with the setup (seems like it'd go *pop* way to fast) as opposed to the Rokh, which has a very large powergrid
now before anyone says anything, i'm lookin at my Rokh now and i have NO powergrid boosters..and i still have 309MW and 4CPU with 6 T2 rails and 2 T2 launchers. i'm left wondering if the ferox should have a slight boost in the powergrid
your absolutely right. with just five 250mm rails (prototype gauss) it only leaves like 25 grid i think. thats just rails,nothing in the meds or lows. now come on i should atleast be able to fit "something" i mean anything. the ferox like so many other caldari ships is garbage. either most caldari ships are missing a weapon slot(ferox included) or thier split or the ship as a whole sucks.
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Incantare
Caldari Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.12 06:07:00 -
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The ferox is pretty much ****.
That's it really.
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Zavernus Hamarabi
Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.12 08:29:00 -
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It's not. Use railguns and a shield tank and use it like it's built to be used: suppressing fire. (trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear to be honest if you think you can make a solo pvp ship of any quality)
My setup for suppressing fire: 5 x 250mm railgun IIs 2 x Assault missile launchers
1 x therm hardener II 1 x kinetic hardener II 1 x em hardener II 1 x invouln field II 1 x med shield booster II
1 x damage control II 3 x mag stab IIs
This gets me 78em 81exp 86kin 82therm and enough range/damage to be useful in any situation.
Ferox isnt a solo pvp boat, its more of a support role ship than any in game imo.
CCP, a request: Reduce metagaming. Remove POS's and POS warfare. Remove rigs. Quote: null
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Waenn Ironstaff
Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.12 15:10:00 -
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Currently mine set up as:
HIGH: 5 x 250mm Railguns, 2 Standard Launchers (not enough CPU for Assault)
MED: Large Shield Booster, Shield Boost Amplifier, Medium Cap Battery, Invulnerability Field, Passive EM Hardner
Low: RCU, PDS, Damage Control, DPS Module.
Any thoughts?
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Viscount Hood
UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:57:00 -
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5 x 250mm railgun II w/spike 2 x assault launchers
2 x sensor booster II 2 x tracking computer II 1 x target painter II
1 x mag stab II 2 x tracking enhancer II 1 x DCU II
142km optimal 97km withou tracking comps/enhancers
Thats the best I can get
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K1RTH G3RS3N
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Posted - 2007.11.26 12:03:00 -
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in response to alot of the setup on here especially the ones at the beggining. whats the point in saying its a PvP setup and fitting a warp jammer of some sort and not fitting a mwd if you cant keep up to the target and theyre just going to get away when they feel like it anyway. either mwd and disrupt or neither for gang setup.
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Fenix Zealot
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:57:00 -
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I know i only have limited experience in this game, but perhaps i can add a few things that i have learned.
The ferox has always been my favorite ship. I cant quite explain why that is, and maybe im just a fool for thinking this way, but i have put alot towards making the ferox work in all sorts of situations despite all the criticism.
Here is what i have right now:
High slots: -- 5x neutron blaster -- 2x medium nos
Medium Slots: -- 1x 10mn microwarpdrive -- 1x large shield extender -- 2x invulnerability fields -- 1x large shield booster
Low slots: -- 1x power diagnostic unit -- 3x reactor control units
Rig slots: -- 1x anti-em screen reinforcer -- 1x anti-thermal screen reinforcer -- 1x anti-kinetic screen reinforcer
You will need engineering 5 to make this work, if you only have engineering 4, drop the power diag and slap on a 4th reactor control unit. I realize that the dps is low without mag stabs in the low slots, but your defense is higher. For me, when i eve fit this, i end up with a 338 max defense, and a 110 sustained defense. With all lvl 5 skills thats 130 sustained and 384 max. If you know your enemy will be doing alot of thermal drop 1 invulnerability field and instead go with a thermal hardener.
This setup works best in a support role with a buddy that has a web/scram, however, if you drop the shield extender and put on a web, it is possible to effectively 1v1. What you would have to do to prevent warpout is bump your opponent alot with ur mwd activated. People complain about being unable to kill without a warp scram, but if your target is small enough to realign after a bump even through a webifier, 5x neutron blasters with antimatter charges will tear it to pieces even without damage bonuses. If your target is large enough to avoid such a rapid death, its probably guaranteed to be vulnerable to a good bump on the side to twist it in the wrong direction. And with the best web you can fit, it will be a nightmare to realign to warp out.
My fit has all tech 2 equipment minus the MWD and the turrets, and obviously, the more tech 2 equipment you can use the better. when i tested this with a friend who has a myrmidon, i was able to win out if i used my drones to kill his drones first. The 2x medium nos have a huge impact. I wouldn't reccomend a setup without them.
Again i will note that i have not much experience in pvp, however, i have put forth a great deal of effort toward maximizing the defense for sustained fighting, while still maintaining decent damage. As with any kind of a setup, the trick is to find the proper balance between damage output and defense. For me, i like having a defense that will do me greater justice, however, it can be argued that a ferox will do better with as much damage as you can try to fit.
I have yet to get adv weapon upgrades, but when i do i will probably revisit my pvp ferox setup.
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K1RTH G3RS3N
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Posted - 2007.12.07 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N on 07/12/2007 11:13:59 i have to say i like that setup but a few things that you might like... you need a webifier in there otherwise your running the mwd all the time just to try and keep in optimal range, and thats not easy with limited agility. you need the cap for running the booster which is why its handy to have nos in there. one disadvantage about the caldari for PvP is youre mixing midslots with tackle and shield tank... but and advantage is that you have the lowslots free for damage mods etc. also i wouldnt spend money on rigs... seeing as the drake is just plain better and you would be better off spending the money on that and keeping the ferox expendable... unless you are a hybrid person ofcourse.
i also see youve covered some of that after i posted this :P
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Miss Miata
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Posted - 2007.12.07 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Miata on 07/12/2007 13:21:33 Edited by: Miss Miata on 07/12/2007 13:19:58
Originally by: Gray Carmicheal My setup never had scrams, I either had a tackler Frig, or I simply hoped my nosses sucked them dry quick, or they were too dumb to jump.
But on the otherhand, (I dunno how big the EW drones are, but) 1 Webber drone/Scram drone will go a long way as well.
well thats a crock of crap, did yo0u make it up to sound good??? (it didnt work)
sucking cap dry does not prevent warp, it just makes you warp not very far, which is good as its a instant safe spot.
which means the only people left when solo were the ones `to dumb to jump` as you put it, and i very much doubt you found many of them.
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co. Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:24:00 -
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I don't know what other people try to use the Ferox for, but at the moment for me, it's the most affordable (except the modules, and time spent in training skills) sniper ship for me.
[Ferox, Sniper Ferox] Tracking Enhancer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Medium 'Lone Ranger' Shield Booster Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Medium Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
It has 112KM Optimal range + 15 KM Fall Off. Does 150 DPS or 528 a volley. What I was also trying to do, was make it so that it could survive if it came up against something fast. I don't know if it's good or not, because I can't read EFT all to well, but it has 6k shields, all resists are over 60% It can only tank something like 34 DPS. And has an effective HP of 22k. _____________________________ Thorek Ironbrow of Ironbrow Industries Co. Part of the Empire Research Alliance Look us up in Nomaa or Itamo to join! |
Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co. Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:32:00 -
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[Ferox, Uber Sniper] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M 250mm Railgun II, Spike M [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Hybrid Locus Coordinator II Hybrid Locus Coordinator II [empty rig slot]
91 DPS. 417 a Volley. Targetting range 182 KM. Optimal 158 KM + 15 KM Fall off. _____________________________ Thorek Ironbrow of Ironbrow Industries Co. Part of the Empire Research Alliance Look us up in Nomaa or Itamo to join! |
velmistr Ecco
Caldari InNova Tech Inc Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
It can only tank something like 34 DPS. And has an effective HP of 22k.
I guess you have core defence field extenders and definitely not tech 2 :P
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Corwain
Gallente Down In Flames
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Posted - 2007.12.13 19:40:00 -
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Back before the nos nerf I used this ferox setup:
5x Ion II/Electron II mix, 1 med nos, 1 small nos Large Shield Booster II, MWD, med injector w/ 800s, scram, web DC II, 3x Magstab II
5x Hobgoblin II
2x Em hard, 1x Thermal hard
Did like 400dps and had a very nice tank. Put null in and you've got the best optimal of a blasterboat of your tier and gunsize. Brutix does it better, but Ferox is underestimated or thought of as a non-PvP ship or even sniper only and that can play to your advantage.
I'd never use missiles on it as the main weapon system --
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Major Stuart
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.18 21:36:00 -
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Whats the best solo setup?
I havnt played in a while so ive forgot all my setups and dont know what half teh patchs have done
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter. It is a combat drone used by carriers. |
Sp4rt4nII70
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Posted - 2007.12.22 19:21:00 -
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I was wondering if the fittings discussed on the first couple of pages are still up to date. Can they still be used and are they effective.
I've got a Ferox and I'm sitting here with about 15 mil cash to buy a good PvP fitting for it.
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Sp4rt4nII70
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Posted - 2007.12.24 16:50:00 -
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Different question, for that sniper setup, can someone explain if I use the tageting enhancers and sensor boosters all at once or one after another?
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Clearion
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Posted - 2008.01.02 04:38:00 -
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My current fit is:
High 5x Heavy Launcher II 2x Medium Diminishing Nos
Medium 2x Shield Extender 1x 10km Webber II 1x 20km Warp Disrupter II 1x Invulnerability Field II
Low 2x Ballistic Control System II 2x Shield Power Relay
Drones 5x Shield Repper
This has a disgusting tank, and can do some pretty nice damage with tech 2 or faction ammo.
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Miss Coleman
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Posted - 2008.01.24 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Coleman on 24/01/2008 14:32:22 I need some advice on the ferox.. I mostly use missiles
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Miss Coleman
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Posted - 2008.01.24 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Coleman on 24/01/2008 14:32:51 well here is my set up and i need to know if it is good.
MIDS: 4x Large Shield Extender II's 1x Invulnerability Field II
LOWS: 2x Local Power Plants II's for the boost in shields 2x BCU's
HIGHS: 5x Heavy missile Launchers 2X 150mm Railguns
No Nos cause i tend to hit from a nice distance... Not close enought to use Nos
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Under Heavy Fire
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:05:00 -
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PvP? PvE? Gang? Fleet? Solo?
Originally by: "GM Tacgnol" Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat.
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Bronson Hughes on 24/01/2008 15:15:00
Originally by: Miss Coleman Edited by: Miss Coleman on 24/01/2008 14:32:22 I need some advice on the ferox.. I mostly use missiles
If you're using that setup for missions, drop an extender and the invul. field for a pair of mission-specific hardeners; you'll use the same amount of cap and get better performance. Otherwise it looks good for a mission boat, but a Drake would be far better.
EDIT: Don't even try to take that setup into PvP solo. In a gang, you may be able to provide some fire support, but again, a Drake would be a far better choice. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:46:00 -
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When is this necro'ing gonna stop? Nice hamster! - Mindstar Thanks! We wont touch this sig! - Cortes I lied - Cortes LIAR! |
Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom When is this necro'ing gonna stop?
When someone can leave it alone for 90 days. Auto-lock FTW. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom When is this necro'ing gonna stop?
It isn't necro when it is the official linked "outfit your ship like this" thread for this ship.
Besides, what has really changed in the ship since the thread started? Every fit is as viable as it was when they were posted.....
Originally by: Audri Fisher On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby
Originally by: arbalesttom When is this necro'ing gonna stop?
It isn't necro when it is the official linked "outfit your ship like this" thread for this ship.
Besides, what has really changed in the ship since the thread started? Every fit is as viable as it was when they were posted.....
Every newb is gonna look at the first page and starts realizing he should use missiles and a out of date passive tank. PLEASE, stop necroing this thread and start a new one, makes everything lots and lots easier...
Just....do...it....
And repeat after me: I wont necro this thread again! Nice hamster! - Mindstar Thanks! We wont touch this sig! - Cortes I lied - Cortes LIAR! |
Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.01.24 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby
Besides, what has really changed in the ship since the thread started?
One day the Ferox will be looked at by devs... one day...
Until then - let it serve its role as a bait ship - tank, web, scram - blasters.
Or just disco it and pop pods - wheeee! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Insur Yamakkei
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:47:00 -
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I'm simply wondering whether the following setup is worth anything:
2x Advanced 'Limos' Heavy missile bay 2x assault missile launcher I 2x Quad afocal light maser I 1x Heavy Neutron Blaster I
2x Invulnerability Field I 2x Large Shield Extender I 1x ECCM - Gravimetric I
1x Signal Amplifier I 1x Gravimetric Backup Array I 1x Overdrive Injector System I 1x Inertia Stabilizers I
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Bad Borris
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.26 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Borris on 26/02/2008 23:15:30
Originally by: Insur Yamakkei I'm simply wondering whether the following setup is worth anything:
2x Advanced 'Limos' Heavy missile bay 2x assault missile launcher I 2x Quad afocal light maser I 1x Heavy Neutron Blaster I
2x Invulnerability Field I 2x Large Shield Extender I 1x ECCM - Gravimetric I
1x Signal Amplifier I 1x Gravimetric Backup Array I 1x Overdrive Injector System I 1x Inertia Stabilizers I
You got it all wrong there mate. See above for tons of more suitable set-ups. Few tips : dont mix weapon types without a very good reason. Take a look at the drake for both pvp and pve.
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