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Oventoasted
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Posted - 2006.02.24 06:08:00 -
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Whats a good setup for a PvP Ferox?
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Asarah
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Posted - 2006.02.24 13:39:00 -
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First and most importantly, make sure you have your BC skill to 4 or 5 so that you can max out your resists
Then:
Hi:
5x Heavy Launchers
2x Med Nos
Mid:
1x 20k Scram
1x Invul Field
3x Large Extenders
Low:
2x SPR or CPR
2x BCU
Some people will say that you should never passive tank in PVP. Personally, the Ferox was born to passive tank and it also really frees you from having to worry about your cap, as long as one of those NOS is firing you'll be able to sustain your mods indefinitely.
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Surgio
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Posted - 2006.02.24 13:44:00 -
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I agree with her to an extent.
Drop one of the heavies, replace with another med or small NOS.
Purpose? When your going against a HAC or AF your missiles won't mean much to them. You maybe able to keep up the pace with doing equal damage but lets face it. Drain their CAP and they can't do anything.
I went against a friends gallante HAC and managed to completely drain his cap. Once their cap is gone, they just float. Easy kills after that.
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Oventoasted
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Posted - 2006.02.24 19:58:00 -
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how the hell did you fit 3 large shield extenders on there lol.
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Taerenius
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:02:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Oventoasted
how the hell did you fit 3 large shield extenders on there lol.
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3 large shield extenders is a normal setup for a passively tanked ferox...
my current pvp setup is:
high:
5x arbalest heavy
2x medium 'knave' nos
med:
2x hardener, EM/therm (maybe move to 1x invuln field II soon)
3x large shield extender II
low:
3x SPR, 1x BCU II
no scram because i fly with at least 1 other person who tackles
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Oventoasted
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:07:00 -
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what are your shield skill;s cuz i dont have enough PG to fit even 1 large shield extender.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:10:00 -
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3 Large Extenders will make your signature radius almost Battleship size. For a very effective semi-passive tank, try this:
Highslots
4 x Heavy Missile Launcher
3 x Medium NOS
Midslots
2 x Invulnerability Field II
1 x Photon Scattering Field II
1 x Heat Dissapation Fied II
1 x Warp Disruptor I
Lowslots
2 x Ballistic Control System I
1 x Damage Control II
1 x Signal Amplifier II (couldn't think of anything else)
With Battlecruiser 4, Shield Management 4, and Shield Operation 4, this will give you 3750 shield HP, and the already quick recharge rate of the Ferox will be around the 750/800 second mark.
On top of this, the resists will be in the region of:
EM: 80.7%
Explosive: 85.5%
Kinetic: 78.27%
Thermal: 84.5%
OK, so DPS will not be as huge as some other ships, but the 3 NOS will make life extremely difficult for anything smaller than a Battleship while your missiles grind them down. You could even use Precision Heavy Missiles for popping troublesome Interceptors. 
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Taerenius
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Hawkes
3 Large Extenders will make your signature radius almost Battleship size. For a very effective semi-passive tank, try this:
Highslots
4 x Heavy Missile Launcher
3 x Medium NOS
Midslots
2 x Invulnerability Field II
1 x Photon Scattering Field II
1 x Heat Dissapation Fied II
1 x Warp Disruptor I
Lowslots
2 x Ballistic Control System I
1 x Damage Control II
1 x Signal Amplifier II (couldn't think of anything else)
With Battlecruiser 4, Shield Management 4, and Shield Operation 4, this will give you 3750 shield HP, and the already quick recharge rate of the Ferox will be around the 750/800 second mark.
On top of this, the resists will be in the region of:
EM: 80.7%
Explosive: 85.5%
Kinetic: 78.27%
Thermal: 84.5%
OK, so DPS will not be as huge as some other ships, but the 3 NOS will make life extremely difficult for anything smaller than a Battleship while your missiles grind them down. You could even use Precision Heavy Missiles for popping troublesome Interceptors.
How is that passive at all? theres nothing passive in there at all in relation to shields...furthermore you have no way to regenerate your shields which you don't have much of to begin with in the first place...i can't see how that would work very well for pvp at all.
At least with the 3 large shield extender II's you'll have over 11,000 shields and a recharge rate of around 70-80hp/sec.
Increasing your sig radius on a ferox doesn't really matter because anything up to another battlecruiser can already hit you for full damage with every shot, and most battleships will already do plenty of damage anyway.
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Taerenius
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Oventoasted
Edited by: Oventoasted on 24/02/2006 20:06:58
what are your shield skills cuz i dont have enough PG to fit even 1 large shield extender.
If you don't have enough power grid to even fit a single extender how are you even in a Ferox? It sounds like maybe your engineering skill is only at 1 or 2, it should be 4 if you ever plan on pvping in your ferox, to get a good setup.
In fact for everyone considering it I wouldn't even try pvping in a ferox without the following skills:
elec 4
eng 4
heavy missiles 4
shield op 4
shield upg 4 (for t2 extenders, if you plan on using them, if you dont plan on using extenders at all ignore this skill)
missile bombardment/projection 3 minimum
missile launcher op 4
rapid fire 3 minimum
energy emissions systems 2 (for medium nos)
optimally you really want tactical shield manipulation 4 as well for T2 hardeners but its not a total necessity
and last, you want weapon upgrades 4 for sure because the difference between t1 and t2 ballistic control systems is incredible :)
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Oventoasted
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Taerenius
Originally by: Oventoasted
Edited by: Oventoasted on 24/02/2006 20:06:58
what are your shield skills cuz i dont have enough PG to fit even 1 large shield extender.
If you don't have enough power grid to even fit a single extender how are you even in a Ferox? It sounds like maybe your engineering skill is only at 1 or 2, it should be 4 if you ever plan on pvping in your ferox, to get a good setup.
In fact for everyone considering it I wouldn't even try pvping in a ferox without the following skills:
elec 4
eng 4
heavy missiles 4
shield op 4
shield upg 4 (for t2 extenders, if you plan on using them, if you dont plan on using extenders at all ignore this skill)
missile bombardment/projection 3 minimum
missile launcher op 4
rapid fire 3 minimum
energy emissions systems 2 (for medium nos)
optimally you really want tactical shield manipulation 4 as well for T2 hardeners but its not a total necessity
and last, you want weapon upgrades 4 for sure because the difference between t1 and t2 ballistic control systems is incredible :)
cool thanks for the skill list ill work on it.
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Taerenius
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Oventoasted
Originally by: Taerenius
Originally by: Oventoasted
Edited by: Oventoasted on 24/02/2006 20:06:58
what are your shield skills cuz i dont have enough PG to fit even 1 large shield extender.
If you don't have enough power grid to even fit a single extender how are you even in a Ferox? It sounds like maybe your engineering skill is only at 1 or 2, it should be 4 if you ever plan on pvping in your ferox, to get a good setup.
In fact for everyone considering it I wouldn't even try pvping in a ferox without the following skills:
elec 4
eng 4
heavy missiles 4
shield op 4
shield upg 4 (for t2 extenders, if you plan on using them, if you dont plan on using extenders at all ignore this skill)
missile bombardment/projection 3 minimum
missile launcher op 4
rapid fire 3 minimum
energy emissions systems 2 (for medium nos)
optimally you really want tactical shield manipulation 4 as well for T2 hardeners but its not a total necessity
and last, you want weapon upgrades 4 for sure because the difference between t1 and t2 ballistic control systems is incredible :)
cool thanks for the skill list ill work on it.
No problem...the ferox tends to be the first "relatively expensive" ship that most caldari pilots fly, so I can say from experience that it really hurts the first time you lose one, especially if you have expensive modules on it (the first one i lost had all prototype guns and arbalest launchers)...better to fly it with the proper skills needed so you're less likely to lose it :)
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Oventoasted
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Posted - 2006.02.24 20:53:00 -
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no im just a miner with a lot of isk to spend and i wanna kill somebody.
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Electra Fied
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Posted - 2006.02.24 21:34:00 -
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i wish i had lots of isk hanging around to spend. i lost my moa lastnight, got the insurance money, and now i have just enough for my first ferox. which leaves me with no isk and an awesome ship with no real good weapons nor the money for insurance on this expensive bad boy (which i'm gonna enjoy riding , hehe!
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.02.24 21:40:00 -
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The ferrox is an ew boat, make the most of it. For solo pvp i like:
5 heavy launchers, 2 nos
mwd, web, scram, 2x multispec,
small armor rep, 2 x bcu, 800mm plate.
Can take on a hac with ease. By the time they get through your shield resists (bc 5 ftw) and find out you've got a plate on they are usually diving in for the kill, at which point you switch on the web and jammers, and laugh horribly as you slowly kill them.
sgb
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2006.02.24 21:46:00 -
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5x Heavy Launchers.
2x 100mn ABs.
Whatever keeps the cap running.
Exodus launch days, how I miss that time... 
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Greyshadow
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Posted - 2006.02.25 08:38:00 -
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Would you not use assault launchers at all if your in an area commonly with intys and AFs? or is it just best to have heavies??
Also can this be put on 'RMR Ship Setups' as there is no pvp ferox on there 
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CreEDLom
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:59:00 -
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When the Devs put up the new server to test out and made every system a free for all I got to test out my Passive ferox PVP style. I found out that with skills that supplement the ferox it can be a very deadly PVP ship. I took on every ship you could think of and they warped away when it was 1 on 1!!! Taking on a BS was fun too! The only way they could kill me was if they jammed my lock, or a 5 to 1 fight. I had a blasterthong on his last leg but I quit firing bc I was testing the ferox out and having fun so I went pop first.
Bottom line if you get all the skills associated with passive tanking your ferox and missile skills, that is one badass ship! And the best part if you lose it well it is very cheap. BUT if you have sucky skills you are going to have a sucky ship.
1 Get the most shields you can
2 Recharge that shield as fast as you can
3 High resistances with the battle cruiser skills is a must
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: CreEDLom
When the Devs put up the new server to test out and made every system a free for all I got to test out my Passive ferox PVP style. I found out that with skills that supplement the ferox it can be a very deadly PVP ship. I took on every ship you could think of and they warped away when it was 1 on 1!!! Taking on a BS was fun too! The only way they could kill me was if they jammed my lock, or a 5 to 1 fight. I had a blasterthong on his last leg but I quit firing bc I was testing the ferox out and having fun so I went pop first.
Bottom line if you get all the skills associated with passive tanking your ferox and missile skills, that is one badass ship! And the best part if you lose it well it is very cheap. BUT if you have sucky skills you are going to have a sucky ship.
1 Get the most shields you can
2 Recharge that shield as fast as you can
3 High resistances with the battle cruiser skills is a must
Just out of curiosity, i mean yes the ferrox passive tanks well, but how are you going to convince your targets to sit still while you pwn them with no scramblers or webbers?
sgb
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CreEDLom
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Posted - 2006.02.26 07:27:00 -
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You ask very nicely. Using the word "please" helps a bunch.
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Greyshadow
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Posted - 2006.02.26 11:52:00 -
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I'll ask for him
Please I'd like to know how do you manage to get them to stay there, I imagine you use a scrambler?
Cheers
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2006.02.26 15:17:00 -
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My setup never had scrams, I either had a tackler Frig, or I simply hoped my nosses sucked them dry quick, or they were too dumb to jump.
But on the otherhand, (I dunno how big the EW drones are, but) 1 Webber drone/Scram drone will go a long way as well.
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Nova Strikes
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Posted - 2006.02.26 16:38:00 -
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If your going against anything worth while you dont want to be sitting there firing off Hvys they suck, try something original.
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CreEDLom
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:13:00 -
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I agree, try using potatoes. Those might have higher hit points compared to the hvy's. |
Greyshadow
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:04:00 -
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High:
4 x Heavies
3 x Med Nos
Med:
1 x Name Large Shield Booster
1 x Invul Field II
1 x Shield Extender II
1 x 7.5km Scrambler
1 x Webber
Low:
2 x Ballistic Control
2 x Cap Relays
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Greyshadow
High:
4 x Heavies
3 x Med Nos
Med:
1 x Name Large Shield Booster
1 x Invul Field II
1 x Shield Extender II
1 x 7.5km Scrambler
1 x Webber
Low:
2 x Ballistic Control
2 x Cap Relays
Sheild Boosters and cap relays dont go together ;)
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Greyshadow
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:27:00 -
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Yeah I use 2 other things in lows but changed it to not disclose what I'm using lol 
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Gaul Cascade
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:29:00 -
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Probably T2 PDU's... It's a great module for Caldari and shield tankers in general.
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AnxietyAttack
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:31:00 -
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Haven't been in one for awhile nw but i remember the ferox using the rails very well, doesnt it get optimum bonus's or something. I used to have 4-5 250 proto's and 2 assault launcher's on mine and it kicked ass, obviously range was a factor but when they gt close, drones and assaults would make eyes water
Has it's bonus's changed?
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Corn Meal
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:14:00 -
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if you want to pvp in the ferox get the Nighthawk Muhahaha!
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ilou
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Posted - 2006.02.27 22:43:00 -
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hello since i am complete noob can u explain me pls what is passive shield tanking and what active ? thank you  |
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