Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 09:55:20
How can it be that SA is still alive after Molle announced its death?

And why are BoB sending everyone else except them to kill them? Has BoB lost its edge so it needs everyone else to do the dirty work for them?

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Originally by: Cuebick

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they've been running around our space taking advantage and exploiting.. sad.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 10:01:26
Its not a flame just an honest question to the apparent innefectivnes of BOB lately.

I mean BoB singlehandedly destroyed half of EVE and now they are struggling with an alliance that is so much weaker than them.

Sending your minions to do your dirty work doesnt seem like the BoB we all know... or is it the BoB we all know?

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Originally by: Malken

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my guess is that they are finishing their mining and getting stuff in place at the proper locations.

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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 10:01:26
Its not a flame just an honest question to the apparent innefectivnes of BOB lately.

I mean BoB singlehandedly destroyed half of EVE and now they are struggling with an alliance that is so much weaker than them.

Sending your minions to do your dirty work doesnt seem like the BoB we all know... or is it the BoB we all know?

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/03/2006 10:21:28
Considering the state of SA currently it's nothing that concerns us at all.

If they were a direct threat to us or our allies then we might speed up our plans but SA are quite low on the threat scale currently.

We will not be moving to purple alert for quite some time.


dbp

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Originally by: Dracorimus

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Edited by: Dracorimus on 02/03/2006 10:23:01
Hmm, we have been exploiting ? errr .. ok

Sigh another fanboi....

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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Im not flaming and trolling Im asking legitimate questions. Its your prerogative not to answer them but dont hide behind accusations of trolling simply because the answers you have are not to your satisfaction.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 09:55:41

How can it be that SA is still alive after Molle announced its death?

And why are BoB sending everyone else except themselves to kill them? Has BoB lost its edge so it needs everyone else to do the dirty work for them?

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Originally by: Vitoris

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How can it be flame bait when its a fact?

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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii

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you wait mate if bob make a full assault you will see some fire works

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Originally by: Vitoris

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The question that everybody is wondering about is "Has BoB bitten of more than they can chew"?

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 10:40:28
I may not be a part of any alliance in this war but it seems to me that BoB is not what it used to be and that affects the whole EVE population.

Maybe this war will start the pebble that will create an avallanche that will redo the whole EVE landscape.

I dont know but being tough on the forums while other people fight the wars in your name ingame seems like a sign of weakness. Most of the people fighting for you are doing it because they are in fear of you the question is: "Is there anything to fear anymore?"

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Im not saying Im omnipotent! Im just calling it as I see it and I dont see BoB doing much after the way they announced the doom of SA on the forums.

Are you delegating this doombringing or were you just joking?

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Originally by: pardux

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Originally by: SkaffenAmtiskaw

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Originally by: Cuebick

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they've been running around our space taking advantage and exploiting.. sad.

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Care to back this accusation up?

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your corpmates somehow fly in systems without being in local and yes that "bug" is a exploit

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Im not saying Im omnipotent! Im just calling it as I see it and I dont see BoB doing much after the way they announced the doom of SA on the forums.

Are you delegating this doombringing or were you just joking?

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Originally by: Vitoris

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I hear that you bring 30 BS down to Stain and then leave in 10-15 min. That is not gonna kill an alliance, even I know that.

The question is can you actually kill them or are you making empty threats?

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Originally by: Vitoris

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I hear that you bring 30 BS down to Stain and then leave in 10-15 min. That is not gonna kill an alliance, even I know that.

The question is can you actually kill them or are you making empty threats?

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Originally by: Vitoris

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I hear that you bring 30 BS down to Stain and then leave in 10-15 min. That is not gonna kill an alliance, even I know that.

The question is can you actually kill them or are you making empty threats?

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Originally by: TRIGGER

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me wishes could lock threads and eat teh cAkE wiTh BuBblEs

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Originally by: TRIGGER

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me wishes could lock threads and eat teh cAkE wiTh BuBblEs

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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii

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ok i have a serious way to end the sa bob war.

we get blacklight and trigger to bkg

the one to mine the most minerals/refine and pass them to me wins the war

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 09:55:41

How can it be that SA is still alive after Molle announced its death?

And why are BoB sending everyone else except themselves to kill them? Has BoB lost its edge so it needs everyone else to do the dirty work for them?

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Originally by: Vitoris

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I want to know because Im curios by nature.

These forums are meant as a discussion forum for corporations and alliances. This war affects a lot of people and since BOB are one of the premier alliances of EVE that affect alot of people naturally people will be curios about its actions.

People are wondering if BoB is what it used to be. Has the change from nomadic lifestyle to an alliance with space to defend made your alliance weaker?

Are you able to back up your threats on the forums with ingame action?

Because at the moment it seems to me that you are living on past glories and that affects everyone in the EVE galaxy because it will cause a power vacuume.

Because of this it might not be wise to declare alliances dead if you cant back it up with ingame action. It makes you look weak and if there is a weak spot in your armor these kind of actions just make it look all the bigger to all your enemys. And we all know you have a lot of those.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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I gave you my answers. Just because those answers are not to your liking doesnt mean that they arent answers.

But its rude to answer a question with a question anyway... unless you have something to hide of course.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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I gave you my answers. Just because those answers are not to your liking doesnt mean that they arent answers.

But its rude to answer a question with a question anyway... unless you have something to hide of course.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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EDIT: IF you dont backup your threats I fear that most of your minions might find another master.

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Originally by: Dukath

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The best way to see if BoB is any weaker is to attack us. I mean its always BoB that needs to invade. Remember it was SA who declared war on us, not us on them, but yet again everyone is expecting BoB to take the initiative now.

I just can't wait till the time CCP decides to finally implement faction standings (low standings = no docking rights, docking fees etc) or make all 0.0 stations conquerable.

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Originally by: TRIGGER

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me wishes could lock threads and eat teh cAkE wiTh BuBblEs

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Originally by: "Heraklitus Nomidzon"

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Eve is a timesink in the same way that cr4ck is a timesink. You start,you like it, you can't stop :)

Originally by: Blacklight

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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii

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ok i have a serious way to end the sa bob war.

we get blacklight and trigger to bkg

the one to mine the most minerals/refine and pass them to me wins the war

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I don't know about Trig but you're not gonna get much output from me on that front

I do have level 2 Amarr industrial though so I can haul... a bit

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 18:57:18
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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 18:57:18
I understand Romulus that it might not be fun to fight SA.

But after all the forum chest beating and declaring the impending doom of SA it seems like you guys are backpedalling. Well it seems that way to me at least.

If you never meant to kill them in the first place why place empty threats to begin with?

It began with "You will be wiped out" to end with "We have better things to do".

I dont know but if you make a threat carry it out because if you dont it makes you look weak. BoB control half of the south through your image of tough fighters that back down to nobody. But this will look as though you are scared of SA and are backing out.

How long will it go before another alliance stands up and confronts you after seeing SA do it? You should make an example out of SA by crushing them. If you dont the seeds of discord will be planted and you might have a bigger problem than just SA standing up to you.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL

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RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL

Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 19:02:40
Well thats the whole point Im trying to make.

Its hard for SA to attack you when you have sent all your minions to attack them. But even if SA die it will be the minions who deal the finishing blow not BoB.

If you wanted SA to attack you you would call off your grunts and let SA and BOB duke it out.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 19:02:40
Well thats the whole point Im trying to make.

Its hard for SA to attack you when you have sent all your minions to attack them. But even if SA die it will be the minions who deal the finishing blow not BoB.

If you wanted SA to attack you you would call off your grunts and let SA and BOB duke it out.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 19:02:40
Well thats the whole point Im trying to make.
Its hard for SA to attack you when you have sent all your minions to attack them. But even if SA die it will be the minions who deal the finishing blow not BoB.

If you wanted SA to attack you you would call off your grunts and let SA and BOB duke it out.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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So when you placed the threats you meant to carry them out but you dont mean to carry them out now?

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Originally by: Vitoris

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So when you placed the threats you meant to carry them out but you dont mean to carry them out now?

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OMG

THE PEBBLE HAS DROPPED!

LOOK AT THE SLOW COGS TURNING!

congrats you have just graduated from not having a clue to maybe having the slightest glimmer of a clue.

Congrats.

dbp

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 18:57:18
I understand Romulus that it might not be fun to fight SA.

But after all the forum chest beating and declaring the impending doom of SA it seems like you guys are backpedalling. Well it seems that way to me at least.

If you never meant to kill them in the first place why place empty threats to begin with?

It began with "You will be wiped out" to end with "We have better things to do".

I dont know but if you make a threat carry it out because if you dont it makes you look weak. BoB control half of the south through your image of tough fighters that back down to nobody. But this will look as though you are scared of SA and are backing out.

How long will it go before another alliance stands up and confronts you after seeing SA do it? You should make an example out of SA by crushing them. If you dont the seeds of discord will be planted and you might have a bigger problem than just SA standing up to you.

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Originally by: Vitoris

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When I said minions I didnt mean BoB I meant the other alliances attacking SA.

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In time both SA and BoB will have the opportunity to test each others true metal and then those of us involved will know each other's quality, determination and skill. Until such time idle speculation and forum trolling is utterly pointless.

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hem and i was thinking that SA is atacking everyone lame me

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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Quote:

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In time both SA and BoB will have the opportunity to test each others true metal and then those of us involved will know each other's quality, determination and skill. Until such time idle speculation and forum trolling is utterly pointless.

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that is probably the most sensible thing ive read in this thread...the one thing im dreading about this war is the countles alt threads claiming sa is dead or bob are dead..why dont people just wait until the war is fought before discussing it..otherwise it just a waste of time

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Originally by: Vitoris

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I want to know because Im curios by nature.

These forums are meant as a discussion forum for corporations and alliances. This war affects a lot of people and since BOB are one of the premier alliances of EVE that affect alot of people naturally people will be curios about its actions.

People are wondering if BoB is what it used to be. Has the change from nomadic lifestyle to an alliance with space to defend made your alliance weaker?

Are you able to back up your threats on the forums with ingame action?

Because at the moment it seems to me that you are living on past glories and that affects everyone in the EVE galaxy because it will cause a power vacuume.

Because of this it might not be wise to declare alliances dead if you cant back it up with ingame action. It makes you look weak and if there is a weak spot in your armor these kind of actions just make it look all the bigger to all your enemys. And we all know you have a lot of those.

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Originally by: thebold

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Edited by: thebold on 02/03/2006 22:18:10
Too much rabble...

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Originally by: thebold

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Your efforts against G are the same as your efforts against SA

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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Edited by: dantes inferno on 02/03/2006 22:49:41
apart from threatening to kill sa if they dont kill fix what exactly have bob done for souther saftey? did they come to help ascn or sa (apart from 1 night) when the north attacked? no...did they try to mediate the SE and KOS conflict..no? why not? it was destablising the south was it not? ohh wait yes its not on your border so you dont realy care...are you trying to mediate the RA, v, lv, kos, chimp war? no? again why not its disturbing the stability of the south? oh yes yet again its not on your border, did you try to mediate the 5/ra war? again that was disturbing the peace of the south...bob care for one thing and one things only...bobs space, this is shown in the way that they only but into conflicts in the name of southern stability when its on their borders..they bring this southern union thing to make all the corps in the south toe their line so they can have a nice safe southern flank when they go and play up north.

but its pointles discussing this here it will solve nothing at all, only when bob come to erradicate us will things come to a head (but please bob continue with the forum posts your doing a much better job of bosting sa moral than any one in the alliance could do)

but one final pont in regards to sa and stain: here we are and here we remain..be prepared to get tied up for many months to come, we wont move that easily

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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists

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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 02/03/2006 22:37:09
The (bold) Bold: ("a well placed joke works wonders")

"G/IRON/Razor will be the next super tyrant in EVE they are not short on FCÆs nor Fire power nor ISK like you BOB they are starting to accelerate past you and you now at war with us has ensured that they will in-fact go far beyond you."

so - the reason bob isnt all over u is exactly to prevent what u described above.

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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Edited by: dantes inferno on 02/03/2006 22:49:41
apart from threatening to kill sa if they dont kill fix what exactly have bob done for souther saftey? did they come to help ascn or sa (apart from 1 night) when the north attacked? no...did they try to mediate the SE and KOS conflict..no? why not? it was destablising the south was it not? ohh wait yes its not on your border so you dont realy care...are you trying to mediate the RA, v, lv, kos, chimp war? no? again why not its disturbing the stability of the south? oh yes yet again its not on your border, did you try to mediate the 5/ra war? again that was disturbing the peace of the south...bob care for one thing and one things only...bobs space, this is shown in the way that they only but into conflicts in the name of southern stability when its on their borders..they bring this southern union thing to make all the corps in the south toe their line so they can have a nice safe southern flank when they go and play up north.

but its pointles discussing this here it will solve nothing at all, only when bob come to erradicate us will things come to a head (but please bob continue with the forum posts your doing a much better job of bosting sa moral than any one in the alliance could do)

but one final pont in regards to sa and stain: here we are and here we remain..be prepared to get tied up for many months to come, we wont move that easily

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Originally by: dalman

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Haha.
Grats bold, you just made sure this thread's gonna run 10 pages +.

oh well. I'm gonna stay out of it except for one thing:

Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists

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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 02/03/2006 22:37:09
The (bold) Bold: ("a well placed joke works wonders")

"G/IRON/Razor will be the next super tyrant in EVE they are not short on FCÆs nor Fire power nor ISK like you BOB they are starting to accelerate past you and you now at war with us has ensured that they will in-fact go far beyond you."

so - the reason bob isnt all over u is exactly to prevent what u described above.

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In other words, Rexthor Hammerfists, you just said that it's in fact BoB who has a very big problem now.
Very contradicting to what Avancade and the forum squad has been saying 'ZOMG, SA you're in big trouble now!'
But very true.
And exactly what I've been saying in the other threads before, that BoB handled this in a poor way from the beginning which has now placed you in this ****** up lose-lose situation.

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Originally by: Eris Discordia

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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.

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Originally by: thebold

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Edited by: thebold on 02/03/2006 22:17:28
In light of some peoples comments on a personal level and a forum level that SA is to actually betray the south I would like to say (from my POV not Alliance comments) the followingà

It is the in visioning of a SA member that BOB has used SA like a dog that was once let of the leash and now his masters have lost control of that dog and need to put it down but the dog knows whatÆs happening and fights for its life so they bring in more men with guns to help kill it.
BOB can not take SA alone and nor could SA take BOB alone it would be a long dragged our war.

SAÆs Cowboy diplomacy is what makes the game fun but when our word is given that we wouldnÆt dare do something to someone then thatÆs our honour. We respect those that fight us because we want good fights like everyone and not always cloak and dagger or killing of the alliance care bear.

One way or another we will finally get to FIX that have always hidden behind BOBÆs Shadow every time the going got tough, Were we being tested like some form of Lab rat.. an intergalactic experiment if you will?

If it is seen in this light we were an experiment that has gone wrong.
We were tested before and tested again. We passed A+ both times.

To quote Numerous SA CEOs ôMy corp will fight for Stain with every last piece of ISK in my walletö What more honour and loyalty could you ask from someone?

It is again a great feeling to stand in this old alliance and be feared by one of EVEs biggest PVP entities. You see us as a real threat to your existence now, if you denied this the evidence and support of the traitorous alliances in the south are living proof of your forum lie.

Trigger instigated the Southern Union not BOB despite what political spin or forum post you label on it. It is in fact you who have turned his back on the South. We remain loyal we will have no part with any Northern Entity and only waged war on FIX as they turned on the South at a time of great need and hindered our efforts of killing G to try and Save ASCN whilst you BOB lot sat on your NOL station and went LALALA look at us were so great, when we were fighting a loosing war.

G brought it South and I held that field with Oberon for as long as I could whilst you lot refused to help. I did it to stop the danger from getting close to ASCN and Threatening the South. STC Corp supported from Paragon but it simply was not enough that SA fight 3 Huge Centralized alliances that were bent purely on destruction, we had not the ISK or man power.

Whilst IÆm busying in chat channels trying to save us all you continued to do nothing. O well you bought a 40 man blip up for a 1 nighter that was your definition of help? And even when G went to ASCN I followed with my corp and stayed near by ASCN assisting in hindering whatever G IRON Razor NBSI who the hell else from the north was down here, whilst SA took the garbage out in the north.

We simply would not allow a northern entity to live in the south. That is why we ripped our hair out over G. Do not lecture us on South and Turning our back on it, Understand the facts before you even hit the reply button.

G and IRON did more damage to SA than any other alliance probably could but G and co Helped us because we have lost our miner stations now which we have never needed to fight.

SAÆs Loyalty is with the South. I honestly think youÆre a puppet master now that controls who he wants and says æhey you, you cant actually do thatÆ This is where you are wrong to dictate in a clever way. The false illusions of your threat are the only thing saving your alliance from total destruction. If you entered a POS war I know for a fact several months down the line you would founder. ISK is not the base for good war and fights only dedication is the means to an end in EVE.

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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Edited by: dantes inferno on 02/03/2006 22:49:41
apart from threatening to kill sa if they dont kill fix what exactly have bob done for souther saftey? did they come to help ascn or sa (apart from 1 night) when the north attacked? no...did they try to mediate the SE and KOS conflict..no? why not? it was destablising the south was it not? ohh wait yes its not on your border so you dont realy care...are you trying to mediate the RA, v, lv, kos, chimp war? no? again why not its disturbing the stability of the south? oh yes yet again its not on your border, did you try to mediate the 5/ra war? again that was disturbing the peace of the south...bob care for one thing and one things only...bobs space, this is shown in the way that they only but into conflicts in the name of southern stability when its on their borders..they bring this southern union thing to make all the corps in the south toe their line so they can have a nice safe southern flank when they go and play up north.

but its pointles discussing this here it will solve nothing at all, only when bob come to erradicate us will things come to a head (but please bob continue with the forum posts your doing a much better job of bosting sa moral than any one in the alliance could do)

but one final pont in regards to sa and stain: here we are and here we remain..be prepared to get tied up for many months to come, we wont move that easily

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Excellent, you need all the morale boosting then...cos like i said before less talk and bring it on the battlefield

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Originally by: Oveur

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****! Lets nerf it!

To the nerfmobile!

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Originally by: Trakh Shardan

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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Edited by: dantes inferno on 02/03/2006 22:49:41

U where invading us U where killing us still didnt see non bob fleet about !

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In time, patience, and take in all the chest beating as a morale boost you will need it...we will do it in our own time....suspence ftw!!!!

Originally by: Tiuwaz

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just start shoting each other >_>

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Originally by: Rohann

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Originally by: Tiuwaz

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just start shoting each other >_>

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SA are getting shot alot and dying alot.

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Originally by: Oveur

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****! Lets nerf it!

To the nerfmobile!

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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Originally by: thebold

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Ramblings

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Why scared to come 5 jumps of NOL, worried you might get owned...Why don't you get something organised then for the weekend...still waiting for morale boost. TBH, i don't think you got it, wanna prove me wrong, now is your chance..i will await eagerly for the weekend...

Originally by: thebold

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Your maturity outstounds me as normal

I will file a official forum petition for this.

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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Shrike said to me: "Do you want my help"

I said "yes"

BoB 40 man blip and then the next day bob never came back

ASCN and G tried to avoid the war by temp napping each other
we understood why they would do it but then the war raged on

You took IRONs crappy station up North but you didnt take cloud ring when you had maybe a month to do it, you could of easly walked over it and put a sharp nail into G

BOB promised that we would be dead within Days of a war dec in chat channels and convos.
Also Druid G sneaked in maybe 20 small pos's over night so when we logged on after downtime before we got our pos's up to secure the systems G had allready anchored them all, Most of SA was pinned down in the North it was me a few mass and Oberon and Setenta fighting As razor/iron put the night time pressure on things got worse hence the call for help...

I kind of hoped for real help but never recieved it.

Lilan: Your post is bassicly saying.. We couldent be bothered.
Just like you cant be bothered to come kill us as promised.

Kyrstal: "BNC is in catch and stain... we are bringing it where are you ?"
That mighty 10 man frigate gang in DSS?

MASS is in Period Basis! where is your mighty millitary? its all in NOL you dont bother coming for us unelss we come within 5 jumps of you.. Instead you just send out tribal to do the dirty work.. :/

BNC hasnt bought anything

Your in catch and stain.. Wellcome to the day to day ins and out of Stain.. This happens with Triad everyday for the last i forget how long now

Rohan: SA are getting shot alot and dying alot.
Your corp members are only reciveing the same deaths aswell
Strange we must be fighting vs a PVP alliance Joy!
No wait theres no BOB anywhere in Stain really Your low turn outs are very bad, Im waiting for your weekend blip to go YARRR ;)

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Why scared to come 5 jumps of NOL, worried you might get owned...Why don't you get something organised then for the weekend...still waiting for morale boost. TBH, i don't think you got it, wanna prove me wrong, now is your chance..i will await eagerly for the weekend...

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I'm speechless at the new level of utter stupidity in this thread.

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Originally by: Bratzo

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ooops i did it again.
Me above -.-

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Originally by: thebold

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about as special as your forum idiots :)

Mods will sort out your immature ones, the others look like there about to burst a vien in the head..

Haha Goodnight :)

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Originally by: Tiuwaz

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Originally by: Rohann

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Originally by: Tiuwaz

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just start shoting each other >_>

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SA are getting shot alot and dying alot.

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in that case the only thing i have to add is: NPC stations in 0.0 suck, remove them plz CCP

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I'm speechless at the new level of utter stupidity in this thread.

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Yes your forum guys really look dumb

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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info

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Shrike said to me: "Do you want my help"

I said "yes"

BoB 40 man blip and then the next day bob never came back

ASCN and G tried to avoid the war by temp napping each other
we understood why they would do it but then the war raged on

You took IRONs crappy station up North but you didnt take cloud ring when you had maybe a month to do it, you could of easly walked over it and put a sharp nail into G

BOB promised that we would be dead within Days of a war dec in chat channels and convos.
Also Druid G sneaked in maybe 20 small pos's over night so when we logged on after downtime before we got our pos's up to secure the systems G had allready anchored them all, Most of SA was pinned down in the North it was me a few mass and Oberon and Setenta fighting As razor/iron put the night time pressure on things got worse hence the call for help...

I kind of hoped for real help but never recieved it.

Lilan: Your post is bassicly saying.. We couldent be bothered.
Just like you cant be bothered to come kill us as promised.

Kyrstal: "BNC is in catch and stain... we are bringing it where are you ?"
That mighty 10 man frigate gang in DSS?

MASS is in Period Basis! where is your mighty millitary? its all in NOL you dont bother coming for us unelss we come within 5 jumps of you.. Instead you just send out tribal to do the dirty work.. :/

BNC hasnt bought anything

Your in catch and stain.. Wellcome to the day to day ins and out of Stain.. This happens with Triad everyday for the last i forget how long now

Rohan: SA are getting shot alot and dying alot.
Your corp members are only reciveing the same deaths aswell
Strange we must be fighting vs a PVP alliance Joy!
No wait theres no BOB anywhere in Stain really Your low turn outs are very bad, Im waiting for your weekend blip to go YARRR ;)

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Originally by: Trakh Shardan

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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info

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Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Why scared to come 5 jumps of NOL, worried you might get owned...Why don't you get something organised then for the weekend...still waiting for morale boost. TBH, i don't think you got it, wanna prove me wrong, now is your chance..i will await eagerly for the weekend...

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Again I have to get my fingers to work cos Ur calling us to come kill U !

U said we woud die kill us dont ask us to come kill U...

but then again U dont understant and wil most probly never understant

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Originally by: thebold

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BoB 40 man blip and then the next day bob never came back

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Originally by: thebold

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BOB promised that we would be dead within Days of a war dec in chat channels and convos.

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Originally by: thebold

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Lilan: Your post is bassicly saying.. We couldent be bothered.
Just like you cant be bothered to come kill us as promised.

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Originally by: thebold

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Kyrstal: "BNC is in catch and stain... we are bringing it where are you ?"
That mighty 10 man frigate gang in DSS?

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Originally by: thebold

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MASS is in Period Basis! where is your mighty millitary? its all in NOL you dont bother coming for us unelss we come within 5 jumps of you.. Instead you just send out tribal to do the dirty work.. :/

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Originally by: thebold

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No wait theres no BOB anywhere in Stain really Your low turn outs are very bad, Im waiting for your weekend blip to go YARRR

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Originally by: Bratzo

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ooops i did it again.

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I'm speechless at the new level of utter stupidity in this thread.

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Yes your forum guys really look dumb

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Originally by: thebold

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I'm speechless at the new level of utter stupidity in this thread.

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Yes your forum guys really look dumb

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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists

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dalman:

"In other words, Rexthor Hammerfists, you just said that it's in fact BoB who has a very big problem now.
Very contradicting to what Avancade and the forum squad has been saying 'ZOMG, SA you're in big trouble now!'
But very true.
And exactly what I've been saying in the other threads before, that BoB handled this in a poor way from the beginning which has now placed you in this ****** up lose-lose situation"


first off, i guess G/iron has other problems then attackin bob for some time now, but that aside - trust me, i think bobs capital army can mess itself with every other one in game in term of numbers.

ofc we got the numbers, the skills and commanders, too.


just contributin my job to reach the 10 pages..

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Originally by: Amthrianius

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Tis sad to see blue on blue forum/eve wars and just hope there is even the tinyest chance of a diplomatic solution but as it gets more intense the chances diminish.

Oh well

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 09:55:41

How can it be that SA is still alive after Molle announced its death?

And why are BoB sending everyone else except themselves to kill them? Has BoB lost its edge so it needs everyone else to do the dirty work for them?

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Originally by: Kisses

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Edited by: Vitoris on 02/03/2006 09:55:41

How can it be that SA is still alive after Molle announced its death?

And why are BoB sending everyone else except themselves to kill them? Has BoB lost its edge so it needs everyone else to do the dirty work for them?

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LOL Molle and DB also predicted the "end of the World" for anyone caught in Delve and areas beyond yet hundreds of NON-BOB pilots fly through it every day.

Looks like their Propaganda machine is starting to be recognized for what it is PROPAGANDA.

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Originally by: Coranor

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Omg thebold 4tw really.
...stuff...

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Originally by: Rohann

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Originally by: dalman

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"And if you fail to understand me when you're interacting with me in this mmo, then that's not my problem. It's your problem if it didn't turn out the way you wanted."

Dalman, with all due respect, the things you personally find enjoyable in this MMO ... it has very little to do with your original point of "BoB is making mistake by focusing on SA, while G and others get ahead in the isk / capital ship buildup race" and the response to it how it's incorrect assessment ... doesn't it? o.O;

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No.

The point is:

* SA consists of other oldtimers which like me have very different views (not necessarely same as mine) on things than the general EVE population has(and while not with the same 'old-timer factor', the 'young' IE-EX are in many ways not very different from a young EVOL).

* Knowing this basic info, it should be very obvious that when BoB steps in and threaten to war SA in this situation (not a war about regions, but a war about FIX's actions), that's something that is as likely to result in an actual BoB-SA war as to settle the FIX-SA war (at least in this situation when history repeats itselfs, and time showed that following BoB and settle the FIX war turned out very bad).

* When BoB's plans (and view on the game) is that of "G/IRON-capital ships race etc" and a war with SA is something BoB doesn't want at all...

The only conclusion is that BoB screwed up in the first place, right?

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Um no. You screwed up by attacking us first you dip****.

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Originally by: Kisses

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Originally by: Rohann

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Originally by: dalman

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"And if you fail to understand me when you're interacting with me in this mmo, then that's not my problem. It's your problem if it didn't turn out the way you wanted."

Dalman, with all due respect, the things you personally find enjoyable in this MMO ... it has very little to do with your original point of "BoB is making mistake by focusing on SA, while G and others get ahead in the isk / capital ship buildup race" and the response to it how it's incorrect assessment ... doesn't it? o.O;

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No.

The point is:

* SA consists of other oldtimers which like me have very different views (not necessarely same as mine) on things than the general EVE population has(and while not with the same 'old-timer factor', the 'young' IE-EX are in many ways not very different from a young EVOL).

* Knowing this basic info, it should be very obvious that when BoB steps in and threaten to war SA in this situation (not a war about regions, but a war about FIX's actions), that's something that is as likely to result in an actual BoB-SA war as to settle the FIX-SA war (at least in this situation when history repeats itselfs, and time showed that following BoB and settle the FIX war turned out very bad).

* When BoB's plans (and view on the game) is that of "G/IRON-capital ships race etc" and a war with SA is something BoB doesn't want at all...

The only conclusion is that BoB screwed up in the first place, right?

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Um no. You screwed up by attacking us first you dip****.

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And the above Diplomatic Post by BOB shows Maturity how?

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Originally by: Vitoris

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Here is what I dont get.

BoB are saying that they didnt get involved when G invaded Stain because SA didnt ask for help right? But why did you get involved during the FIX-SA war if no one asked you to? At least BoB are saying that FIX didnt ask them to get involved.

Are you using the Southern Stability as an excuse to promote your own interest or are you truly upholding the ideal of it? And if you are shouldnt you have helped Stain no matter if they were asking for help or not?

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Originally by: 0Virtu0

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Allow me to completely ignore what you've posted so far and just point out, if it hasn't already been mentioned in this thread, that it appears that you're a t2 market/carebear alt of a MASS member (basing off your bio and your employment history). Are we having fun inciting flames today?

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Originally by: Kryztal
Lol if you wanted to fight us why are you all hiding on the forums?
/quote

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i havent finished reading this thread yet but this made me laugh......comon guys....if your honest with yourself you'll have to agree i havent seen anything bigger than a frigate gang in stain and atm BOB are no major threat to stain......more of this "war" has been fought on the forums than on the battlefield tbh ...maybe things will change once u bring ur titan or whatever it is ur mining for ..maybe ...but i look foreward to that day in earnest because thats where the fun stuff is.....not here

and dont write us off completely we have alot of old skool good pvp'rs in stain still and especially Phenom when he cant get a gang ......this is what happens infact when Phenom cant get a gang



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Originally by: dalman

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* When BoB's plans (and view on the game) is that of "G/IRON-capital ships race etc" and a war with SA is something BoB doesn't want at all...

The only conclusion is that BoB screwed up in the first place, right?

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Originally by: Thomas Jefferson

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A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither

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Originally by: AvanCade

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Originally by: thebold

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Your maturity outstounds me as normal

I will file a official forum petition for this.

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Awww Draco you hurt mr. whimps feelings how sad...

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Originally by: USN CVN73

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Edited by: USN CVN73 on 03/03/2006 00:58:18
This is such a dumb thread im ashamed to even post in it.
come on folks who gives 2 cents. Really don't u have anything better to do? we gone thru 1000000000000000 threads about how dead SA is or how BoB is bout to lay the smack down on SA or um whoever is on the bandwagon. ITS OLD NEWS. Move on...

Geez...
if you have nothing to do then go start a war somewhere or go mine veld in yulai or steal ore from nuubs in kisogo...

USN
SA

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Originally by: Rohann

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Originally by: USN CVN73

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Edited by: USN CVN73 on 03/03/2006 00:58:18
This is such a dumb thread im ashamed to even post in it.
come on folks who gives 2 cents. Really don't u have anything better to do? we gone thru 1000000000000000 threads about how dead SA is or how BoB is bout to lay the smack down on SA or um whoever is on the bandwagon. ITS OLD NEWS. Move on...

Geez...
if you have nothing to do then go start a war somewhere or go mine veld in yulai or steal ore from nuubs in kisogo...

USN
SA

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The war has already started or did you miss that in the last 6 pages of this thread?

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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We took the crappy Iron Station? LOL, Ok dude, whatever. We took a frakking refinary outpost, which was making billions a day

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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to be used towards the war machine that was rolling through stain.

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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We never even planned on taking any stations, it's something that just happened, how soon people seem to forget. I'll hold off on saying anything else, I think our projects should be wrapping up in RKK soonÖ see you then

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Originally by: dalman

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Some day ago I had a great fight with some SE. It was me in a battleship vs raven + tempest + cyclone + kestrel.
I killed the raven and the cyclone and the other two warped out.

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Originally by: shivan

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ASCN maths 4TW.

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Tis sad to see blue on blue forum/eve wars and just hope there is even the tinyest chance of a diplomatic solution but as it gets more intense the chances diminish

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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Quote:

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Tis sad to see blue on blue forum/eve wars and just hope there is even the tinyest chance of a diplomatic solution but as it gets more intense the chances diminish

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that would of been nice, and could possibly of happned if it wasnt for the bob forum brigade,as there was a good portion of SA against this war (i was very much against it)..but since we have now seen first hand exactly what sort of attitude bob have towards us (master to lapdog, and not friend to friend and they claimed) that chances of that happening now are 0. bob and their servents may eventualy kill of SA..but it wont come easy or cheap..it will be months if not longer..which during that time all of bobs plans will have to be put on hold, and ever day SA live will be just that little bit more proof that maybye..just maybye bobs bark is worse than its bite

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Quote:

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and slowly but surly your enemies will turn there plans against you

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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that would of been nice, and could possibly of happned if it wasnt for the bob forum brigade,as there was a good portion of SA against this war (i was very much against it)..but since we have now seen first hand exactly what sort of attitude bob have towards us (master to lapdog, and not friend to friend and they claimed) that chances of that happening now are 0. bob and their servents may eventualy kill of SA..but it wont come easy or cheap..it will be months if not longer..which during that time all of bobs plans will have to be put on hold, and ever day SA live will be just that little bit more proof that maybye..just maybye bobs bark is worse than its bite

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Originally by: Taz Devlin

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With those words I'd like to ask SA members to refrain from posting anymore in here.

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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We will not be moving to purple alert for quite some time.

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Originally by: Zzazzt

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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We will not be moving to purple alert for quite some time.

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Understandable - it means changing the bulb

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Originally by: Razzil

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Hey Masieee, get your a** to LGK mate, I need a new Masieee corpse. The old one is getting battered.

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Originally by: DeadProphet

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Originally by: Zzazzt

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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We will not be moving to purple alert for quite some time.

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Understandable - it means changing the bulb

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haha, i just watched that episode today :P classic

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Originally by: TheSoul

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Originally by: dantes inferno

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that would of been nice, and could possibly of happned if it wasnt for the bob forum brigade,as there was a good portion of SA against this war (i was very much against it)..but since we have now seen first hand exactly what sort of attitude bob have towards us (master to lapdog, and not friend to friend and they claimed) that chances of that happening now are 0. bob and their servents may eventualy kill of SA..but it wont come easy or cheap..it will be months if not longer..which during that time all of bobs plans will have to be put on hold, and ever day SA live will be just that little bit more proof that maybye..just maybye bobs bark is worse than its bite

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Hmmmmm, so let me get this straight. Orc A says SA wanted to fight bob, and you are saying a good portion didnt.

So i can assume Orc A didnt even bother to contact his superiors and just waged war by himself, dragging SA in with him. Then SA tries to save face and makes up all this "we arent slaves blah blah" crap ? :)

Orc A = the pied piper
SA = all the little boys and girls

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Originally by: Sarmaul

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Originally by: Taz Devlin

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With those words I'd like to ask SA members to refrain from posting anymore in here.

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I think you need to shout louder

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: DeadProphet

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Originally by: Zzazzt

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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We will not be moving to purple alert for quite some time.

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Understandable - it means changing the bulb

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haha, i just watched that episode today :P classic

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Clue me in, I have no idea what your talking about.

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Originally by: Esurnir

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AFAIK From an outside pov, BoB deedn't seems to try hard to destroy SA, they are occupied in the north, and in that case, SA wardec, they pay. Why the hell they would engage a considerable long time effort to obliterate SA ? They don't have any reasonable reason except an hypothetical smacktalk between sa and bob that started the war.

So imho, whatsoever are the odds about can Fix-BoB destroy sa or not, that couldn't happen due to a lack of trying.

P.S. That's an empire pov, wich try to stay neutral and as no intend to become the next flamebait. Thx

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Originally by: Esurnir

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Over created the mods

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Originally by: Esurnir

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People make mistakes. But you sure didn't tried hard don't you :).

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Originally by: Gibmundur

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H¦H¦

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Originally by: USN CVN73

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Free icecream for everyone

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