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Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
512
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:54:00 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:Manfred Sideous wrote:So I am sorry that you put yourselves into this position only to find out you don't enjoy what you asked for. I am sorry that you are outmatched in every aspect of this conflict other than Warm Bodies. I am sorry that 30 minutes of PVP takes 300 minutes under heavy server load. Remember you (RUS) wanted this war you (RUS) started this war and you (RUS) will now live with your decisions. Do you, personally, enjoy 30 minutes fights that last 5 hours? If no, why dont you turn to CCP and say: hey, those lags are crap, fix them. If yes... oh well.
nah the not so strange thing is that these lags were out like forever , you didnt care for any fix for it ,maybe you enjoyed its benefits , but suddenly it is used agains you , you cry louder than a whole kindergarden found out their chocomilk got spoiled
why else suddely fixing this "drone" lag got so important? |
Skia Aumer
Atlas Research Group
70
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:02:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote:Perhaps there is a solution. Make a change where you can have one set of abandoned drones. If you try to abandon a 2nd set of drones it deletes the first set
You see? It's not that hard when you turn on your brain and kick away those "grrr rusrus" thoughts.
Manfred Sideous wrote:This simple change should address any concerns about the issue. However we will be back to whine threads soon enough over a new reason things aren't going someones way.
Whining about lags is good, mkay?
From blackscreening to TIDI, we have a progress. If we keep pushing, and CCP keep working on that - who knows, maybe some day EVE would be fun to play? |
Cap Zhukov
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:04:00 -
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Fix drone lag |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
693
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:10:00 -
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Cap Zhukov wrote:Fix drone lag
fix stupid postings |
le Ellecon Ellecon
Impetus Corporation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:13:00 -
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I feell so much pain from both sides:/ |
Alexander the Great
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
151
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:30:00 -
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Sentry carriers are imbalanced and too cost-effective for so many reasons... I don't understand the logic of people who'd like everyone to use them instead of fixing them. But the main problem is every carrier launching up to 10 drones, so when you deploy 200 carriers you effectively launch 2200 separate objects into space. And someone says it doesn't affect server performance, seriously?
TiDi issue has to be addressed asap, but I'd like to see carriers balanced as well. Main characteristics of every combat ship are damage, defense and navigation (how fast can you get into battle). Let's look at them.
Damage
All the ships in EVE apply damage well only to one class below and all classes above (battleships hitting cruisers and above, dreadnoughts hitting battleships and capitals etc), all the ships except carriers.
- sentry drones can hit everything starting from frigates and at a very long range
- sentry drones are assisted, so EWAR doesn't affect them at all, and they have perfect alpha
- sentry drones can be killed (by bombs etc), but this is a drawback only for subcapital ships not carriers which carry thousands of spare drones
Defense
1) Remote repair. I'd say this isn't well balanced throughout entire game, but capital reps on carriers and supercarriers with all the high slots available for utility are most broken. Because of high resists you need much more capitals to break through the tank than there are carriers on the field.
2) Buffer. If it's too hard to break through reps, the most adequate idea is to kill a ship in one shot. But carriers have so much EHP they can tank even a doomsday. Dreadnoughts can do the work but unlike carriers they cannot receive remote assist while dealing damage, which should be true for all the capitals in my opinion.
Navigation
With a chain of cynoes one can move a full fleet of carriers through entire universe in like half an hour.
Price
For all this versatility and ease of usage you pay less than 2 bill for a fitted and loaded carrier. This isn't much for most players in null-sec alliances. And due to high defense and lag they create it's unlikely to see many carriers dead during a small period of time.
Now can somebody explain how do you call this balanced compared to other ships in EVE? |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
693
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:34:00 -
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Alexander the Great wrote:Sentry carriers are imbalanced and too cost-effective for so many reasons......
deploy a fleet of such "OP" carriers and see what happens, hm? |
Skia Aumer
Atlas Research Group
70
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:36:00 -
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Alexander the Great wrote:Sentry carriers are imbalanced
So go and create a separate thread about nerfing them. This thread is about lags and fixing thereof.
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Nex Killer
Drunk3n Industry
49
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:15:00 -
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Wouldn't something like making abandoned drones self destruct after 5 minutes help with some of the TiDi? From reading all of this thread it seems like some of the TiDi has to do with abandoned drones. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
693
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:17:00 -
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Nex Killer wrote:Wouldn't something like making abandoned drones self destruct after 5 minutes help with some of the TiDi? From reading all of this thread it seems like some of the TiDi has to do with abandoned drones.
why destroy something what can be scooped and made to ISK later by people. there are billions sitting on grid waiting to be scooped and taken to jita. |
uyguhb
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:20:00 -
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I wish there was a sentry drone with decent tank and the dps of 5 sentry drones. 125mb bandwidth |
Nex Killer
Drunk3n Industry
49
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:32:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Nex Killer wrote:Wouldn't something like making abandoned drones self destruct after 5 minutes help with some of the TiDi? From reading all of this thread it seems like some of the TiDi has to do with abandoned drones. why destroy something what can be scooped and made to ISK later by people. there are billions sitting on grid waiting to be scooped and taken to jita.
True but what about if they would only self destruct if TiDi got to a fixed percent like 50%. Once TiDi was 50% they would start self destructing but any TiDi lower they would stay so scavengers can scoop and sell in Jita later. |
Makalu Zarya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
148
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:51:00 -
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I like how you told all your members to go on the forum and make they sure they like this thread. You made your decision to go to war, don't blame N3 and don't blame PL for it. It was a war that YOU wanted, now you suffer the consequences. Instead of having an actual fight you decide to go and have a forum CTA where all your members like a post...for real? Is this how low you have dropped?
I wish you luck in your forum war. Perhaps your time is better spent finding more blues however. |
Jimbo Lannister
Surreal corp
Darkness of Despair
0
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:21:00 -
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My favourite game is broken by tremendous lags caused by drones in mass pvp.
Dear CCP, please fix it.
P.S.: Am I the only one around here who can't understand why PL members post about HC vs. N3 war in this thread? |
Nastionka
War Tactical Groups
SOLAR FLEET
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 03:32:00 -
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Fix sentry drone assist on carriers
and fix drone lags |
Makalu Zarya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
148
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:12:00 -
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Nastionka wrote:Fix sentry drone assist on carriers
and fix drone lags
yes please just fix carriers...drop assign on 500 domis is working as intended |
RD 18
Russian Thunder Squad
Darkness of Despair
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:50:00 -
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CCP, Drones are broken. Please fix them!!! |
mulatka WakolAdka
Synergy Cybernetics
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:30:00 -
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CCP PLS FIX TiDi LAGS !!!!!!!!!!!!
really with TiDi fleet dreads cant kill carrier !!!! lol? coth TiDI give time to make target RR save befor dreads make damage !!!
WTF
really this is tard s1ht |
Mystic Rebel
Russian Thunder Squad
Darkness of Despair
213
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:15:00 -
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Makalu Zarya wrote:I like how you told all your members to go on the forum and make they sure they like this thread. You made your decision to go to war, don't blame N3 and don't blame PL for it. It was a war that YOU wanted, now you suffer the consequences. Instead of having an actual fight you decide to go and have a forum CTA where all your members like a post...for real? Is this how low you have dropped?
I wish you luck in your forum war. Perhaps your time is better spent finding more blues however.
Funny fact: PL drew more attention to this thread than SW/SFBL/CFC players combined together 
Keep it up plz. |
JIeoH Mocc
brotherhood of desman
Darkness of Despair
198
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:28:00 -
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Makalu Zarya wrote:I like how you told all your members to go on the forum and make they sure they like this thread. You made your decision to go to war, don't blame N3 and don't blame PL for it. It was a war that YOU wanted, now you suffer the consequences. Instead of having an actual fight you decide to go and have a forum CTA where all your members like a post...for real? Is this how low you have dropped?
I wish you luck in your forum war. Perhaps your time is better spent finding more blues however.
And another one bites...
Two questions for you, if you would be so kind.
Do you argue the point that sentry drones, in thousands, create lag?
Don't you want this lag addressed, and the issue fixed?
The flow of disgruntedPL/N3 posters in this thread is amusing, raving about some war or another, as if someone asks to nerf or take away some of their toys, and here you are defending the lag created by drones, as if you're using it to some purpose. |
Rimfus
Real Enemy
SOLAR FLEET
1
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Posted - 2014.01.09 07:10:00 -
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Fix drones! plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
Cossa Aivo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 08:53:00 -
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Fix Drone Lag |
Blood Viper Johnson
23
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:24:00 -
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fix it pls ccp |
Loretta Seamus
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:29:00 -
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drones broken. fix drones = fix lags. or give guns and launchers assist too  |
Zemlyani4ka
Gipsies
Darkness of Despair
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:38:00 -
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Fix Drone Lag |
Osbeorn
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:45:00 -
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fix pls drone lags |
Leutenant Kiff
Surreal corp
Darkness of Despair
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:53:00 -
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CCP, i love this game, fix Drones please  |
Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA
C0VEN
263
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Posted - 2014.01.09 09:59:00 -
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Fix this lag.
I have life , and when i go to fight i'm not planing to sit next 8 hours ( 48min eve time) in 10% drone TIDI lag.
This is game not work.
1 hour in a game is fun - 8 hours in a game is work ( not fun ).
TIDI IS NIGHTMARE - CCP SHOW US THE TIMERS
Reactivation timers on : MJD and more.
Please like & post in this idea to keep it visible. |
Dalilah
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:01:00 -
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* |
Stan Hallard
Tax Evasion Co
0
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:19:00 -
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Hey, PL, please say again that the game in which you fly ceptor, get targeted by remote seboed non-dampable Aeon and then blap in several seconds is not broken.
Idea of drones induces lags is most likely stupid but hell, Wrecking Ball is abusing broken game mechanic and something should be fixed around it. |
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