| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 .. 14 :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
230
   |
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:26:00 -
[151] - Quote
while we are fixing drones. can we re balance them so the amarr ones are kind of usefull |
shebu
Russian SOBR
SOLAR FLEET
1
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:29:00 -
[152] - Quote
drone asist is cheat |
bp920091
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
21
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:29:00 -
[153] - Quote
First off, i dont have a problem with slowcats. I do have a problem with how they are currently being used (ie, drone assist).
Sentry Drones are, in essence turrets. They share far more with turrets than they do with regular drones. Simply put, they dont move, and are extensions of one's own ship (drone based ship in most cases), in regards to damage. The different flavors of sentry drones are also representative of guns as a whole. Shorter range, better tracking, more dps? Better use a Garde. Long range, worse tracking, less damage? Use Bouncers.
People say that drones should be assistable, yet several classes of drones are not. Often called support drones, ECM, Remote Repair, and Salvage Drones cannot be assisted to someone else. While Remote Repair and Salvage drones make sense, being "Support," ECM drones are different entirely. While it is true that they do not deal damage, instead, they directly negatively effect the opponent's status (web, jam, target paint, etc). CCP has decided that this is far too powerful for assisting, and have therefore made these classes of drones un-assistable.
For those calling for Carriers to be "Fighters Only," I do not think that this is the right path either. The Slowcat doctrine is a strong and powerful one indeed, and a removal of the utility of carriers to only be able to field fighters is a rather large nerf that is unneeded.
As for sentry drones, they create the issue of "Perfect Alpha." If this is intended in the game then the only thing that needs to be done is to allow modules to be assisted as well. If "Perfect Alpha" was not something that was intended, and seen as undesirable, remove sentry assist from the game. Regular drone assist is not broken due to other aspects (ie, time for drones to get into position, position of drones in fleet, as well as giving other ships the ability to get on killmails (logi), when they are focusing on other aspects (ie, repping their fleet-members)).
I for one feel that for a ship to fire on someone using turrets (which sentry drones are), they should have to lock you first.
For those saying "Well, -A- supports Dominix/Ishtar Fleets, so they really arent supporting drone assist nerfs, just slowcats," I say this. I dont like sentry assist on ANY platform, including dominix/ishtars. In order for a ship to use turrets on you, it should have to lock you and fire on you. I would be in SUPPORT of a change that would cause Dominixes and Ishtars to need to manually lock and fire on the target that they with THEIR drones to shoot.
Carriers in the past have not been used in this manner because of an inbuilt mechanic, that is, lock time (that, and before the drone mods, sentries werent nearly as good). When you can delegate the damage to one ship, built specifically for lock time and range, the drawbacks for using a carrier are lost, leaving only the positive aspects.
TLDR: Remove sentry Assist or allow guns to be assistable |
Dirk Action
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
259
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:32:00 -
[154] - Quote
Skia Aumer wrote:Xolve wrote:Angry Russians.
Angry Russians Everywhere. Much of an argument. Dunked.
it's a waste of time to argue with someone who refuses to see facts
you know, like how Veritas posted saying that the drones haven't actually caused the latest node crashes, despite you pro-blobbers insisting that they do
instead i think i'll continue to dunk on you ingame  |
Okapist
The First Foundation
SOLAR FLEET
29
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:33:00 -
[155] - Quote
FIx drone lags |
Skia Aumer
Atlas Research Group
69
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:48:00 -
[156] - Quote
bp920091 wrote:TLDR: Remove sentry Assist or allow guns to be assistable
Basically, you suggest to make drones similar to guns. I.e. to remove their flavor. To make the game more homogenous. And more dumb.
Thus, I will not agree with you.
Also, it has nothing to do with server performance and is thus offtopic. |
Kat Ayclism
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
187
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:48:00 -
[157] - Quote
Andski wrote:-a- vs -a- is amusing
As good or better than the new BoB grrring about BoB?
And drones
And titans bumping
And etc...
GrrrrrrGameNotBeingMyWay |
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project
Surely You're Joking
518
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:49:00 -
[158] - Quote
Jindan Belt wrote:TiDi occur more often when carrier-drone doctrine is used. So higher load is produced by drones, not by your fictional "blob".
What we're asking in this thread is that CCP to look into this issue and fix that high load.
On your first point, numbers to back your claim?
You're not asking CCP to look at the issue, you want CCP to nerf Slowcats, drone assist, sentries etc. Anything to neuter the fleet doctrine you won't risk the assets to beat.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Skia Aumer
Atlas Research Group
69
|
Posted - 2014.01.07 23:54:00 -
[159] - Quote
Dirk Action wrote:Veritas posted saying that the drones haven't actually caused the latest node crashes, despite you pro-blobbers insisting that they do
Veritas didnt even mention about drones. |
Criss Scaurus
Real Enemy
SOLAR FLEET
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 00:00:00 -
[160] - Quote
FIx drone lags |
|
|
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project
Surely You're Joking
518
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 00:08:00 -
[161] - Quote
Skia Aumer wrote:Dirk Action wrote:Veritas posted saying that the drones haven't actually caused the latest node crashes, despite you pro-blobbers insisting that they do Veritas didnt even mention about drones.
Veritas mentioned high load. If drones are indeed creating such server lag as the anti-drone activists are claiming, drones were (indirectly) mentioned.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Ekhss Nihilo
Ideal Machine
The Explicit Alliance
54
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 00:17:00 -
[162] - Quote
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP wrote:1Of9 wrote:uaaaaaaaaaau .. tears ... so delicious nom nom nom anyway, on a more serious note. CCP nerfed areaDD at goons request, because, well, goons could not win. CCP nerfed sensor boosters at goons request, well, you know, old vets like BoB could pwn them too far away since they didn't had the skills :THEHORROR:.. Then goons discover that NANO was too much, they where getting owned left and right in their ratting pastures. :cry cry cry: and CCP nerfs. Goons jump into a system bubbled? too many bubbles? NO PROBLEMO, batphone CCP they will remove them for us. Now getting owned by sentry drones .. what do to? lemme see.. AH YES! let's bat phone CCP once more. ALWAYS WORKED IN THE PAST why not once more? Next on the cry list: REMOVE caps from game, since goons out number everyone, it's game over for everyone else. Then, remove MWD, make sure hostiles cant run away. Why not nerf skilling speed? OLDER chars like SirMolle etc can skill SLOWER so goons and buddies catch up? Why not make WARP BUBBLES affect only the hostiles and NOT those that are blue to the bubble owner? Goons love sabres.. System with 8000+ abandoned sentry drones was lagging whole day (until they were removed by petition) With only 50 ppl in local, grid was loading for a few minutes. Do you really like it that way? There is no need to fix carriers or drone assist...just fix lags caused by them, goddamit!
I approve of this post.
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
-- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)
|
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
691
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 00:29:00 -
[163] - Quote
hey, rest of eve coalition, if you'd have choosen a different point in time to express your concerns about drones and their mechanics, you would probably earn some more credibility but as you do said thing during a war you are in process to fckin loose your whine doesnt count for more than like "waahhhhh CCP PLEASE NERF ENEMY SO WE CAN FINALLY WIN!", you understand?
Its a stupid thing to complain about enemys fleet compositions during an active war you are about to loose or at least dont make any progress for months since its begin!!! HTFU and go grow some balls!! |
Jaz Antollare
Deadly Loneliness
73
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 00:43:00 -
[164] - Quote
Make drones less laggy, thats for sure. |
Aethera Cura
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 00:49:00 -
[165] - Quote
Cry MORE please |
IncogNeggro
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 01:07:00 -
[166] - Quote
on a more realistic note, why not fix TIDI itself? from what i along with pretty much everyone else i have ever bin in a giant tidi lag fest with have realized... is the fact that when ever tidi reaches a certain point clicking on mods is no longer effective as everything is so out of timing that instead of it being true "time dilation" its more like tumbling through a time warp where everything and nothing reacts the way it's meant to under normal circumstances :p fix that..... not drone assist..... lets face it, if CCP did in fact "fix" drone assist it would ONLY be due to the CRYING and for the benefit of their historical PETS the goons, whom have a loooooong history of doing this when ever an enemy has found a tactic they are not clever enough to counter effectively. Cpt. Mittens tries hard to come off as a sophisticate "master manipulator" or some shtit but he is no more than a glorified internet spaceship nerd. He has some how managed to convince the pilots under him that "petitioning" for game changes that don't suit them during a major war is an honorable thing to do lol. it really just shows the lack of intellect on the part of the majority of his members, as well as the inability to be a true strategic leader on his part. Fight the good fight, DON"T cry more bros :) and may the best tactician win ;) |
Svetlan Zibiah
Perkone
Caldari State
5
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 01:48:00 -
[167] - Quote
FIx drone lags |
St Rannik
Van Diemen's Demise
Northern Coalition.
41
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 01:57:00 -
[168] - Quote
NaltDi wrote:Sariah Eylaya wrote:All I see is butt hurt here. Drones are not broke. They just aren't how rusrus/goons like em. So, 8 hours laggfest(30-40 min in eve) causing by 250 carriers is ok, and server working fine? 250 ships is creating laggs more than 2k f*ck*ng subcaps, do CCP think it's normal?
there is no lag when we use the same carriers with same drones without any hostiles in the system.
so the fix would be simple, and doesn't require CCP involvement: stop coming into systems when we are there.
problem solved |
GirlMaria
The Ur'Quan Masters
SOLAR FLEET
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 02:11:00 -
[169] - Quote
Fix drone lag |
Konnor Maklaud
Real Enemy
SOLAR FLEET
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:00:00 -
[170] - Quote
fix the drones! |
|
|
Katie Scoop
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:01:00 -
[171] - Quote
Fix the drone Lags! |
Are Mi
Solar Legion Of Black Fleet
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:02:00 -
[172] - Quote
fix centry drones! |
Lighting Rain
Solar Legion Of Black Fleet
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:03:00 -
[173] - Quote
fix centry drones! |
park0urfreak
Real Enemy
SOLAR FLEET
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:04:00 -
[174] - Quote
Fix the drones! |
Amoral MoralFreak
Solar Legion Of Black Fleet
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:10:00 -
[175] - Quote
fix the drone lags. |
Marie Maklaud
Real Enemy
SOLAR FLEET
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:11:00 -
[176] - Quote
Fix the drone lags! |
Janie Maklaud
Real Enemy
SOLAR FLEET
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:13:00 -
[177] - Quote
fix the drones. |
xDUKE NUKEMx
Russion Corporation for New Players
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:15:00 -
[178] - Quote
fix the drone lags! |
Lily Colins
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:16:00 -
[179] - Quote
fix the centry assist! |
Goddess Love
WATAG Academy
SOLAR WING
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.08 03:34:00 -
[180] - Quote
fix centry drones! |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 .. 14 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |