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Svett	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:24:00 - [301] Edited by: Svett on 24/03/2006 09:25:17 a lame pic
hired goon	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:28:00 - [302] Originally by: Hemroid O'Heimatar I'd like to order a few freighter's full of space cheese to go with the G/IRON whine please. Better get the events team to escort those freighters, or they'll never undock. -omg-
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:29:00 - [303] one of these days i'll remember to turn the ui off when i take a ss ATUK frig gang in action!
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:09:00 - [304] Intresting, Someone count the Iron/G posters compared to the FE/5 and then ask who is whining.I think whining about whining is almost if not worse. Now the only pic I have seen of gang attacking pos showing actual numbers was 215.Even on that pic there is not that many pilots active on the POS.So at least we got decent numbr of who was atcive or alts etc. ty :) WW
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:13:00 - [305] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 24/03/2006 10:14:00 People. This ends now. This rapidly degenerated into a mud slinging contest only a few pages in. I want to get some things straight right here, to my knowledge on the incident: - The event was unannounced - There has been no subsequent in-character announcement by Guristas, regarding their assault on the IRON/G POS' - There has been no announcement at all in fact, from a CCP employee/GM/Aurora person, regarding the event Perhaps I missed things (I posted in the Events forum that perhaps Aurora actors should have green bars, like Dev's yellow ones, for us to recognise events), but that's how I see it. Shinoobie's original post did not suggest that F-E/.5. pilots had friends in the GM/Aurora team., and frankly I am disgusted that pilots on both sides are suggesting it. There were similar accusations in the past against ASCN, BoB, IRON, etc., all without any proof whatsoever. We need an official response on this. This whole thread, it's origination, and the 6 others that have spawned in other forums; have all been regarding Aurora policy on this matter. I refer you to my original points about this appearing to be a seemingly random occurance, without any forewarning, or official post-analysis. Edit: This thread should not be an e-peen contest on who had the bigger fleet. These are NOT official IRON/G views.
Daxes	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:36:00 - [306] Originally by: ZedLey We havent lost any POS but whatever you say must be true right if "we" = 5 then you are right, prolly because .5. has no POS in d7 but a POS of F-E was already killed in d7.
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:22:00 - [307] Originally by: Well wicked lol -pwnt- I think some atuk muppet said?? with screen shot of gang.props on the proof Well you have screen shot of 320 person gang; I give you that.It's a **in pic of you all at a friendly safe pos.Show me this same gang attacking the pos. or doing anything in unisson in battle. THe bottom line is them 8 dreads put more fire power out than you whole fleet.Yet you say this in no way effected the out come?You couldn't even finish the job, guy.Out numbered G/iron/rzr seem to be picking you apart.However time will tell and this whole smack fest has fueled the fire more.So let the fighting comence. Atm I think f-e,5 etc have lost 4 pos's and 2 being large.removed...gone.no more.So talk about pos numbers is dumb or do you need proof?So man your 300+ gang and pwn the pos's without the npc dreads.Then no questions will be left.k? thanx Silly thing is I wonder how many alts, were in the gang of FE/5/koas/friends and how many carebear **s that knew gurista's would be there and got all happy.I mean lol, people in this game go nutz for that shyt so i doubt that represents your current military power imo.prove me wrong ww 5/FE/Guristas attacking POS POS ATTACK
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:23:00 - [308] Yes, Ty G dude, I guess 5 is seperating themselves alrdy from FE.So easy and nice to combine all to make stats or anything to make you look good.Which hasn't happened much this war(the ability to look good). Yet make sure the people that are getting pwned don't affect you, cuzz they are allies not you... lol.I am more aligned with 5/FE/koas/friends.Yet some of the things said make be think of you as weak people.I mean you contradict yourselfs constantly.So tell peopel to get on the same page before they start to post, at least. Again anyone that wonders what is really going on.Check killboards and stats.The rest of you pirates hookers . Start the killing and deportation of morale. ladiez ww
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:24:00 - [309] Whatever makes you feel better altiboy
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:26:00 - [310] Originally by: Well wicked Yes, Ty G dude, I guess 5 is seperating themselves alrdy from FE.So easy and nice to combine all to make stats or anything to make you look good.Which hasn't happened much this war(the ability to look good). Yet make sure the people that are getting pwned don't affect you, cuzz they are allies not you... lol.I am more aligned with 5/FE/koas/friends.Yet some of the things said make be think of you as weak people.I mean you contradict yourselfs constantly.So tell peopel to get on the same page before they start to post, at least. Again anyone that wonders what is really going on.Check killboards and stats.The rest of you pirates hookers . Start the killing and deportation of morale. ladiez ww for contridiction just give orc A a call he will constantly change his mind and confuse u endlessly
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:40:00 - [311] Hey, Thank you for the post of the gang and pic.There is no way in hell that is even half of the gang number you posted.Maybe almost half, that was my point.You guys act like you had a uber 350 person gang for hours and no one could stop you, which doesn't seem true now(unless more pics?).Granted you had the bigger fleet at that time, but nothing near the nubmers you boast.Not fully active at least. So why the others are safespoted,docked,or at the friendly pos I don't know.However I know enough and can't count to see even the ones stacked(givign them 2-3), that don't come anywhere near 200 let alone 350. Again though ty for posting the pic and proving me point a bit again.Now get out there and whoop some ass WW p.s. Also curious if you had any goon fleet mixxed in that gang.Also; we will prob never know true numbers with all the other corps that are flying with you now, but granted they are there for the battle.Still impressive numbers:0 GL all
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:46:00 - [312] Originally by: Well wicked Hey, Thank you for the post of the gang and pic.There is no way in hell that is even half of the gang number you posted.Maybe almost half, that was my point.You guys act like you had a uber 350 person gang for hours and no one could stop you, which doesn't seem true now(unless more pics?).Granted you had the bigger fleet at that time, but nothing near the nubmers you boast.Not fully active at least. So why the others are safespoted,docked,or at the friendly pos I don't know.However I know enough and can't count to see even the ones stacked(givign them 2-3), that don't come anywhere near 200 let alone 350. Again though ty for posting the pic and proving me point a bit again.Now get out there and whoop some ass WW p.s. Also curious if you had any goon fleet mixxed in that gang.Also; we will prob never know true numbers with all the other corps that are flying with you now, but granted they are there for the battle.Still impressive numbers:0 GL all Enough is enough, your obviusly only here to smack and nothing less...I did you a favor and posted these pics...blatently calling me a liar, only enforces my believs in your ability to communicate coherent on these forums. Your ramblings only further testaments your alliance whining policy, and makes you look like a muppet. Im sorry to say
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:16:00 - [313] So making a quick rewind of the week events on D7-ZAC: 1)During the weekend/this week G/IRON/RAZOR/FATE forces managed to destroy several POS, inflict a big defeat over a 5/FE fleet and install 3 POS in D7-ZAC, 2)FE/5 assembled a huge fleet of more then 250BS with Dreads to destroy the 3 hostile POS The IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces on local were completly outnumbered. While still trying to assemble a force, a NPC event started and 7/8 Dread from Guristas faction alligned on FE/5 forces side, completly frustrating any plans of IRON/G/RAZOR/Fate forces still try to offer any kind of resistance. 3) The 3 POS from IRON/G were reduced to reinforced mode by FE/5/Guristas fleet and IRON/G/Razor/Fate forces still lost some BS in skirmishes around the POS's 4) Yesterday the IRON/G/Razor/Fate Forces managed to recover all the POS that were reduced to reinforced mode on the previous day. Some skirmishes occour but a big engament never took place. Week Conclusions: 1) IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces continue in D7-ZAC system 2) 5/FE managed to show a overwelming strenght during the week but failed to achive pratical results because the primary objectives werent achived: a) Destruction of the Iron/G POS's b) Destruction of Iron/G/Razor/Fate fleet I think thats it
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:17:00 - [314] Youve always assumed too much deadduck
Naphtalia	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:29:00 - [315] F-E nor .5. never announced any primary objective, I am glad you think you know our primary objective for this week and I agree our primary objectives failed. In other words get better spies.. you will need them soon..
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:31:00 - [316] Originally by: Lowa Page 9, page 10..who cares! I want a proper "Page 3"! /LOWA lol, 2nd^^ Chimera Sales
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:33:00 - [317] OMG DD I think you've just been appointed our own Iraqi information minister ---
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:35:00 - [318] Noted ulric don't like facts :( Well, I'm not in any alliance so, good job on assuming things.Do you know what you do when you assume?I hope you do.... The facts are: I did not call you a liar,I actually thanked you for the pics.However there is barely over hundred ships encluding the EVENT dreads in the screen shot you gave me.I also mentioned nice gang numbers count on the tab, that don't mean active pilots or envolved.The pic you showed me was by far the biggest number of 5/fe/koas/friends I have seen.Again props on them numbers in the gang window. I'm not smacking and more on your side than you know.However I'm pointing out facts ok.If there is anything you wish to prove wrong or challenge me then fine.However there is little that i have said to flame and not represent the facts as read and combine that information. Sorry I upset you with the facts?Keep flaming me... yes you've been flaming me if anything.I haven't falmed anyone yet and I'll count the number of fe/5/koas posts vs others.Show you who is whining louder than the rest. Also when you read the posts about this event, can't you see that besidse you,SOME BoB, and few stranglers the rest of the player base is agreeign with iron/g/rzr/friends that it shouldn't of went down like that?.. or are you blind ffs? thanx WW
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:36:00 - [319] Originally by: Fred0 OMG DD I think you've just been appointed our own Iraqi information minister Please dont !!!! I dont have have the bull**** capabilities !!!!
Buster Gonads	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:37:00 - [320] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 24/03/2006 10:14:00 People. This ends now. This rapidly degenerated into a mud slinging contest only a few pages in. I want to get some things straight right here, to my knowledge on the incident: - The event was unannounced - There has been no subsequent in-character announcement by Guristas, regarding their assault on the IRON/G POS' - There has been no announcement at all in fact, from a CCP employee/GM/Aurora person, regarding the event Perhaps I missed things (I posted in the Events forum that perhaps Aurora actors should have green bars, like Dev's yellow ones, for us to recognise events), but that's how I see it. Shinoobie's original post did not suggest that F-E/.5. pilots had friends in the GM/Aurora team., and frankly I am disgusted that pilots on both sides are suggesting it. There were similar accusations in the past against ASCN, BoB, IRON, etc., all without any proof whatsoever. We need an official response on this. This whole thread, it's origination, and the 6 others that have spawned in other forums; have all been regarding Aurora policy on this matter. I refer you to my original points about this appearing to be a seemingly random occurance, without any forewarning, or official post-analysis. Edit: This thread should not be an e-peen contest on who had the bigger fleet. These are NOT official IRON/G views. QFT.
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.24 13:57:00 - [321] Holy smack "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
TaiPe	Posted - 2006.03.24 14:55:00 - [322] Order #1 for all 5-members Everytime you see a logical GIRON contribution at the forums, quote it and paste one of our satisfactorily standard answers below. Also you may use one or serveral smilies. If you don't know how to copy & paste ask the ppl in your Ally-Channel. Here a snapshot of our answer-database rofl lamo lol they cant explain ppl just like to whine whiners Yup Yup ust keep the whining comming i enjoy it gogogo f-e/5 Please shut up dont cry to loud now.... aint life a real kick in the ***** F-E 4tw \o/ 5 4tw \o/ I frapsed it, just for you G guys hey allready crying at forums Just LOL loolol bleh 2 LIES blah blah blah Deal with it FivE > GIRON cry more iron/g. you dirty bugger lol @ IRON + G.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:09:00 - [323] Originally by: TaiPe Order #1 for all 5-members Everytime you see a logical GIRON contribution at the forums, quote it and paste one of our satisfactorily standard answers below. Also you may use one or serveral smilies. If you don't know how to copy & paste ask the ppl in your Ally-Channel. Here a snapshot of our answer-database rofl lamo lol they cant explain ppl just like to whine whiners Yup Yup ust keep the whining comming i enjoy it gogogo f-e/5 Please shut up dont cry to loud now.... aint life a real kick in the ***** F-E 4tw \o/ 5 4tw \o/ I frapsed it, just for you G guys hey allready crying at forums Just LOL loolol bleh 2 LIES blah blah blah Deal with it FivE > GIRON cry more iron/g. you dirty bugger lol @ IRON + G. I happen to enjoy's "Bizarre"'s famous "End yourself" most tbh.
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:16:00 - [324] Originally by: DeadDuck So making a quick rewind of the week events on D7-ZAC: A quick rewind of the REAL events shall we? Quote: 1)During the weekend/this week G/IRON/RAZOR/FATE forces managed to destroy several POS, inflict a big defeat over a 5/FE fleet and install 3 POS in D7-ZAC, During the weekend G/IRON/RZR/FATE/CELES forces manage to destroy 1 F-E PoS that was unarmed and has no strontium. Stupid mistake by the owner, yes. A feat? Not really. F-E starts moving people to H-W/IMK and D7 to match the GIRFC numbers. GIRFC dominates afternoon timezones early in the week while F-E/[5]/KAOS gather people. On tuesday G tries to put up their first PoS and F-E and [5] kill it before it ever onlines even with 150 enemies in local. Of course they still put up a PoS cause you can't really stop it anyway and start ferrying in supplies with dreads and freighters. <skip rest of week> Quote: 2)FE/5 assembled a huge fleet of more then 250BS with Dreads to destroy the 3 hostile POS The IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces on local were completly outnumbered. While still trying to assemble a force, a NPC event started and 7/8 Dread from Guristas faction alligned on FE/5 forces side, completly frustrating any plans of IRON/G/RAZOR/Fate forces still try to offer any kind of resistance. 3) The 3 POS from IRON/G were reduced to reinforced mode by FE/5/Guristas fleet and IRON/G/Razor/Fate forces still lost some BS in skirmishes around the POS's Sounds about right. Quote: 4) Yesterday the IRON/G/Razor/Fate Forces managed to recover all the POS that were reduced to reinforced mode on the previous day. Some skirmishes occour but a big engament never took place. GIRFC PoS'es come out of reinforced at a convenient time for them and an unconvenient one for us and they manage to resupply them. Situation hasn't changed. F-E withdraws most of its presence from D7 and clean up the pipes while GIRFC gloats on the forum and recharges shields with 180 of their pilots in local. On a sidenote that will get lost in this whine and smackfest, CCP managed to invent pointless PoS wars part #2 now that you need fleets of 250 people to even think about attacking PoS'es and that's with no enemy fleet of meaning in local. Given that the servers can't handle those amounts I wish G and IRON good luck in their attempts to seize control of D7. [qupte] Week Conclusions: 1) IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces continue in D7-ZAC system 2) 5/FE managed to show a overwelming strenght during the week but failed to achive pratical results because the primary objectives werent achived: a) Destruction of the Iron/G POS's b) Destruction of Iron/G/Razor/Fate fleet Our primary goal was AFAIK, to not get any of the Gurista dreads killed cos that would have been quite nasty, I imagine. I'm not informed of the ins and outs of this cooperation but I dont think Gurista's like their dreads destroyed due to lack of our support. Anyway, your weekview is quite biased, but that might be a timezone thing. From, say, downtime to 1900 eve GIRFC dominates D7 and F-E and [5] go for quick ganks only and sit in PoS. Between 1900-2100 numbers are fairly even but usually the fights that occur kill the node and we fight with 5 minute module lag and pointlessly lose ships left and right. After 2100 GIRFC gets slightly outnumbered and sit and their PoS and play the game F-E and [5] play during the afternoon. Warp, gank, run. Then, from 2200 and onward D7 is 100% controlled by F-E, KAOS and The Five. This lasts until around downtime.
Mangus Thermopyle	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:46:00 - [325] I dont think I have ever seen so much whine from alts. G, grow a pair and atleast post with your main. You are making yourself look very silly. About the d7 situation: I am having a lot of fun, and I think most of us are. So why all this whine and crying?
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:46:00 - [326] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux GIRFC PoS'es come out of reinforced at a convenient time for them and an unconvenient one for us and they manage to resupply them. Situation hasn't changed. F-E withdraws most of its presence from D7 and clean up the pipes while GIRFC gloats on the forum and recharges shields with 180 of their pilots in local. Hehe yea middle of a working day realy suited us all im shure, funny tho cos when I was F-E they was also euro timezones as is .5. ?. Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Our primary goal was AFAIK, to not get any of the Gurista dreads killed cos that would have been quite nasty, I imagine. I'm not informed of the ins and outs of this cooperation but I dont think Gurista's like their dreads destroyed due to lack of our support. Yea this sounds right sorta what I said, its your war not gurista your ment to do the main work not them wile you support. Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Then from 2200 and onward D7 is 100% controlled by F-E, KAOS and The Five. This lasts until around downtime. hehe not last night a ?, the suspect involment of event team only annoyed us into action even more. Also doing it all wile the event team should have known the G pos was bugged is also suspect, that should have had GM attention before this so called event. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:50:00 - [327] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I dont think I have ever seen so much whine from alts. G, grow a pair and atleast post with your main. You are making yourself look very silly. About the d7 situation: I am having a lot of fun, and I think most of us are. So why all this whine and crying? I dont see much crying & wining, you might have known about the event team, noone our side did so its news to us so poeple have posted asking WTF ?. As you would to, hope we get 8 Caldri Navy dreads then we see whos wines ?. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.24 16:20:00 - [328] Originally by: Well wicked Intresting, Someone count the Iron/G posters compared to the FE/5 and then ask who is whining.I think whining about whining is almost if not worse. Now the only pic I have seen of gang attacking pos showing actual numbers was 215.Even on that pic there is not that many pilots active on the POS.So at least we got decent numbr of who was atcive or alts etc. ty :) WW way to completely ignore the 2 pics i posted..just above your post
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 16:53:00 - [329] Edited by: Well wicked on 24/03/2006 16:55:55 Hey guys In with more facts.Just so we can see that this same pattern carries over to the other posts about this event or any post related.However these are jsut quick stats for this thread.An unbias look at who is the whiners.ok? This is quick glance at corps alliances posting in this thread.I did not even bother messing with alts or people without the tags.Unless it's clear they are with allaince exmpl. (Narfai) FE/5/KOAS posts I/G/RZR Page #'s ::: # of posts Page #'s ::: #of posts 1 ------- 10 ______________ 1 ------- 7 2 ------- 14 ______________ 2 ------- 0! 3 ------- 13 ______________ 3 ------- 2 4 ------- 10 ______________ 4 ------- 6 5 ------- 15!______________ 5 ------- 7 6 ------- 13 ______________ 6 ------- 9! 7 ------- 12 ______________ 7 ------- 2 8 ------- 18!______________ 8 ------- 2 9 ------- 14 ______________ 9 ------- 5 10 ------- 10 ______________ 10 ------- 6 11 ------- 12 ______________ 11 ------- 8 So as you can see even if you gave all even the 5/fe/koas alts n friends to I/G/R/F still wouldn't amount ot he whinign and forum spammage as 5 are.... think if we counted in their fan boi's alt and bob(they are bias it seems).So who exactly is crying??Also most I/G/R responses are personal attacks for questioning the event or telling peopel to stop smacking. What does this tell you EVE ?You can do your 5 style little propaganda bullshyt with alot of people;not me!If you look at the pattern of you posts it's like 4-6 fe/5 responses at a time for each one of iron or g's posts....sad and clear. It becomes clear more with every post about it from 5/FE.Iron and G I would say shut up now tbh.. that way they just look like "asshatz" (right context? [*** atuk guy]?)and carry on with it like always. WW
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 17:09:00 - [330] BTW sorry at work, nothing better to do now lol someone respond or I win WW

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