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LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:12:00 - [421] Originally by: ZedLey Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet. bring it Originally by: Commander Nikolas People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS. Antipiracy is causing brain damage
Xthril Ranger	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:21:00 - [422] The only way to stop a 300+ fleet from destroying your pos is to take out enough dreadnoughts to make the attackers withdraw before the losses are to heavy to bear. The ATUK/F-E fleet have withdrawn from a pos attack while outnumbering the defenders 3-1 to save their fleet before. But this time most of the dreadnoughts where actor spawned and the actors got nothing to loose and would never retreat. So the actors presence removed the best chance for G/IRON of defending the pos. The only other option was to bring a much larger fleet and hold the battlefield by superior fighting force (something they obvously wasnt up to?). I think it is unfair to G/IRON to complain that they didnt engage when they all they could hope for was to kill some dreadnoughts that would despawn at the end of the battle anyway. you'll never jump alone
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:33:00 - [423] Originally by: Xthril Ranger The only way to stop a 300+ fleet from destroying your pos is to take out enough dreadnoughts to make the attackers withdraw before the losses are to heavy to bear. The ATUK/F-E fleet have withdrawn from a pos attack while outnumbering the defenders 3-1 to save their fleet before. But this time most of the dreadnoughts where actor spawned and the actors got nothing to loose and would never retreat. So the actors presence removed the best chance for G/IRON of defending the pos. The only other option was to bring a much larger fleet and hold the battlefield by superior fighting force (something they obvously wasnt up to?). I think it is unfair to G/IRON to complain that they didnt engage when they all they could hope for was to kill some dreadnoughts that would despawn at the end of the battle anyway. There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:34:00 - [424] Originally by: TURBOman Originally by: Xthril Ranger The only way to stop a 300+ fleet from destroying your pos is to take out enough dreadnoughts to make the attackers withdraw before the losses are to heavy to bear. The ATUK/F-E fleet have withdrawn from a pos attack while outnumbering the defenders 3-1 to save their fleet before. But this time most of the dreadnoughts where actor spawned and the actors got nothing to loose and would never retreat. So the actors presence removed the best chance for G/IRON of defending the pos. The only other option was to bring a much larger fleet and hold the battlefield by superior fighting force (something they obvously wasnt up to?). I think it is unfair to G/IRON to complain that they didnt engage when they all they could hope for was to kill some dreadnoughts that would despawn at the end of the battle anyway. There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- yupp was nicely done and we learned out of it the hard way -------------------------------- I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need.
Xthril Ranger	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:40:00 - [425] Originally by: TURBOman There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- I don't doubt that you can handle them. I was just trying to say that I think it was unfair that actors removed the best chance of defending a smaller fleet have and that they didnt deserve any smack for not engaging that night. you'll never jump alone
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:42:00 - [426] Originally by: Xthril Ranger Originally by: TURBOman There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- I don't doubt that you can handle them. I was just trying to say that I think it was unfair that actors removed the best chance of defending a smaller fleet have and that they didnt deserve any smack for not engaging that night. Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
WildCard	Posted - 2006.03.26 16:20:00 - [427] Well loosing a Dread may happen when you use your own ones. However was a nice fight. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--
Astarte Nosferatu	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:04:00 - [428] Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Originally by: Santiago Cortes Thread has gone wildly off-topic, flamebait and little desire on anyone's part to read what anyone else has written. Member of the [23]
Yuzier OA	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:11:00 - [429] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Yeah because the 5 and Bob which are all secretly GM's Have decided we dont like you very much and do you want some cheese with the whine
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:43:00 - [430] Edited by: Sir JoJo on 26/03/2006 17:43:56 Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Advanced Whinnig 5 FTL Bringing pain to a place near you
csebal	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:58:00 - [431] Originally by: Xthril Ranger Originally by: TURBOman There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- I don't doubt that you can handle them. I was just trying to say that I think it was unfair that actors removed the best chance of defending a smaller fleet have and that they didnt deserve any smack for not engaging that night. Thats kinda short sighted on many levels. 1) There were FE dreads to target as well. The reason they were unwilling to bring their fleet in was not the lack of targets, but the next to zero chance to achieve anything with it. We could easily park our BSes next to the dreads at all times, and sure it popped a few, but the big majority of them survived. With that many ships, the POS fire is simply too dispersed to do any good even to a BS. I spent literally hours there without even being fired on by the POS. Sure i got scrambled once or twice, but as there was noone to shoot, it meant nothing. 2) People would have a reason to compalin about the Gurista dreads, if they would have managed to down one, instead of an FE one. Then they would have the moral highground to say, that we used them to shield our own ones. Fact is, that no dread died there, for the reasons outlined above. 3) IF they would have killed a Gurista dread somehow, we would have been in very deep **. It was made clear to us, that we better not loose any of the supporting Gurista fleet... Guess what, the guristas do not take losing ships because of their allies lightly. I think, that everybody with some creativity would have seen the opportunity to turn an unstabile entity like the Gurista pirates against us, while at the same time reinforcing their complaints about us hiding behind the NPC ships. What happened instead is history already. Nothing worth debating about that. bottomline: I do not blame G/IRON for not jumping in to defend their POSes. They were well aware, that the POSes will most probably survive anyway: clever play with the reinforced timer there. What i do not like is that people pretend us to be hiding behind NPC ships, when in reality those could have been our own as well, and we would have lost the exactly same ammount of dreads in the engagement. Still, congrats to G/IRON on their actual POS kills. It is easy to take a POS into reinforced mode, as you can choose the time of attack. The tricky part comes when you try to finish it off... G/IRON still leads in that i'm afraid. Btw: i suggest reading the alliance news about what happened. It gives some insight on the why and how part. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.**
Archonon	Posted - 2006.03.26 19:13:00 - [432] Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.26 20:54:00 - [433] Originally by: Well wicked Originally by: Shirei Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'? PWNED!!!!!! :) WTF, if that's ir misguided idea of pwned, u r a pleb, no doubt's, what a crap argument, truly and woefully pathetic. You quote from 1 flippin page, what about the other 13 or whatever, constant whine and it's just plain silly. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
machinis fit	Posted - 2006.03.26 21:49:00 - [434] I heard G lost a dreadnaught today, is this true?? can someone in G confirm this??
Endeva	Posted - 2006.03.26 21:59:00 - [435] Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance omg stay away from forum boy gurista didnt send 200 npc they send 6 dreads or 8? and there were 321 in our gang witouth them so 8 dread means nothing to us when you have gang consisting of 190 BS and couple of fe dreads and carriers. and you were outnumbered in south because every time when atuk jumps in local 2/3 of your carebering alliances members log off. Please resize your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques
Steven McWayne	Posted - 2006.03.26 22:55:00 - [436] In Kali arent any 0.0 spaces anymore, all is empire, claimed by the npcs factions ;P
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.26 23:09:00 - [437] Edited by: Vince Draken on 26/03/2006 23:09:15 Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance lolz Remember when Shinra and M Corp wanted to have a region? Regreting your arrogance yet are we? The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Chilli Pepper	Posted - 2006.03.26 23:43:00 - [438] Originally by: Vince Draken Edited by: Vince Draken on 26/03/2006 23:09:15 Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance lolz Remember when Shinra and M Corp wanted to have a region? Regreting your arrogance yet are we? Maybe they can ask NBSI, PA or FE for help again. Ops. Maybe not.
WOTANKN	Posted - 2006.03.27 00:00:00 - [439] hiho yes G loss a dread my moros in the ass next 1 pleas
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.03.27 01:30:00 - [440] Originally by: machinis fit I heard G lost a dreadnaught today, is this true?? can someone in G confirm this?? Yes. In a failed attempt to destroy an FE pos in d7 G lost a dread + a number of bs and support.
BellaMaria	Posted - 2006.03.27 01:44:00 - [441] Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance After the way you lost the last 6 dreads (was it?), I doubt even suicidal npcs would support you with dreads.
fuze	Posted - 2006.03.27 01:44:00 - [442] That vid gots nice music.
madhapee	Posted - 2006.03.27 03:44:00 - [443] lol everybody goes nuts over that music. You spend a couple of hours of your life trying to stop an enemy invasion and all people say is : wow that video has cool music :) lol I guess it is really good I like it too! GF to all involved today on both sides. Nice show from IRON/G/RZR/FATE Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.03.27 04:39:00 - [444] Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 27/03/2006 04:40:48 Aphex Twin 4tw!
LadyScarlet	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:09:00 - [445] Edited by: LadyScarlet on 27/03/2006 06:10:48 Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. im dateing a jovian does that count ?
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:10:00 - [446] Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. The Guristas approaching us for help with their goals was sort of surprising for us, to, in light of our killing them in belts. Turns out the only reason Guristas pirates go to belts is for training ops. If they lose ships on training ops - well then those ships don't deserve to be Guristas, do they? We were told that hostile Guristas were fair game, but not to mess with an obvious fleet action. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:31:00 - [447] Edited by: Fred0 on 27/03/2006 06:31:39 Originally by: fire 59 WTF, if that's ir misguided idea of pwned, u r a pleb, no doubt's, what a crap argument, truly and woefully pathetic. You quote from 1 flippin page, what about the other 13 or whatever, constant whine and it's just plain silly. Except someone else made a count for the 10 first pages and it was the same. 80% FE/5 whining about G/IRON/RZR whining, irony ftw. Oh and add in abit of gloating now because you got 1 dread. ---
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:40:00 - [448] Edited by: Sextus Licinius on 27/03/2006 06:41:30 Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Ohh poor baby, was that a bad dream? I have heard sometimes pirates and Gurista NPC give good people bad dreams. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 07:06:00 - [449] Hey, So from the looks of KB"s and such.The most damage done to G/I/rzr/etc. thus far has been done by a pos. I hope that dread pilot learned a lesson. Also mad balls for them to engage with bs's at pos imo, not the smartest, but wow.Also, I think people pay attention to the music on that film, because the rest was pretty lame.Now 5/FE/koas pulling out their dreads and taking all dreads out, would of been movie worthy.Not a pos doing most the work imo. Keep the good fights up guys, I will have to travel down. WW P.s no fraps of the bs n support kills?? or just mostly pos too ;).No wait yes it was says the killboards.
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.27 07:11:00 - [450] Fanboi ahoy Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance

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