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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Shinoobie on 23/03/2006 01:04:44
Tonight, under iffy circumstances, the Guristas decided to align themselves with FE and the 5 and assisted in attacking a friendly POS to IRON.
Not only that, but decided to stick around and safespot in player controlled POS's.
Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts?
If this is now an active feature of the game I would like to call Salvador Saparti of the Serpentis corperation to come and help take on the Guristas.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:04:00 -
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I doubt the serpentis would want to attack us, after all we did escort their newly aquired titan back to Serpentis Prime
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:05:00 -
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under which rock have u been hiding the last couple of months ?
Titan event and the serpentis event line down south have already an active approach of npc corps doing "their thing".
Just because u are disadvantaged atm (npc corps can change sides quickly as seen in the south) doesnt mean there is a secret plot. I would guess the event time has a certain story mapped out, regardless of who controls the space.
P.S. if the event was planned for d7 why would the guristas ally with some invader over the guys claiming the field for the last few months, especially if there was atleast prior to this event some minor contacts already from previous gurista events ?
Just keep on crying about 10 event guys half in capitals and half in pimped up bs, im sure they tipped tonights happenings in your oppositions favour. Unlike the other 10+ capital ships and 320 pilots involved ofc.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 23/03/2006 01:06:01
First the Serps are fighting BoB,second the serps have aided in attacking POS,third npc intervention in conflicts is extremely limited and only last a few weeks usually so ride it out and if FE can turn this to the favore its YOUR fault for letting it stop you.
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Amthrianius
I doubt the serpentis would want to attack us, after all we did escort their newly aquired titan back to Serpentis Prime
you also kill guristas all the time guess they have a bad memory ;s
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:06:00 -
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Well you shoot Guristas all day and they seem to join you. Seems standings are irrelevent. Hence I am asking for Serpentis assistance :)
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Nobues
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:08:00 -
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we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :)
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nobues
we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :)
No wonder so many Guristas die in the north on a daily basis....
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:11:00 -
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I also demand that the natural enemies of the angels come and help me with my current level 4 mission as it's taking ages. if they could offline the angel's targeting sensors it would be lovely.
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Daxes
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Daxes on 23/03/2006 01:13:24
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Edited by: Kcel Chim on 23/03/2006 01:06:56
under which rock have u been hiding the last couple of months ?
Titan event and the serpentis event line down south have already an active approach of npc corps doing "their thing".
Just because u are disadvantaged atm (npc corps can change sides quickly as seen in the south) doesnt mean there is a secret plot. I would guess the event team has a certain story mapped out, regardless of who controls the space (or needs from a subjective pov "help").
P.S. if the event was planned for d7 why would the guristas ally with some invader over the guys claiming the field for the last few months, especially if there was atleast prior to this event some minor contacts already from previous gurista events ?
Just keep on crying about 10 event guys half in capitals and half in pimped up bs, im sure they tipped tonights happenings in your oppositions favour. Unlike the other 10+ capital ships and 320 pilots involved ofc.
u dont honestly compare the npc events down south with the current situation or?
First, BoB never had a full war down there and also werent already outnumbered.
Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players (not to mention that its rather funny that the event team decides to do it AFTER the "problems" with our POS).
And if u are so much better and wouldnt have needed the help then i ask me why u still took it and are sending in the Event team dreads first.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shinoobie
Originally by: Nobues
we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :)
No wonder so many Guristas die in the north on a daily basis....
how do you suggest a gurista event runs then?
20 event guys doing a FFA against everyone cause most likely everyone will have "npced" in the north ?
Or should they individually count everyones standings present in local together and side with the side who npced the least ?
As stated by some events guys on the forums the events are planned "ahead" without knowing who turns up for them and often without having a particular quickly developping 0.0 situation in mind.
The event guys are doomed whatever they do, if they get ppl into events interacting its called favourism or cheating, if they dont its called "far off what players want and not interactive". If its on a sunday peaktime they get called "lagblobbers omghax servers died unplayable" if its in a less active time its "buhuu we dont have pilots online at that time". If they bring just small ships the event gets called "unimpressive" and if they bring capitals "overpowered" and so on and on.
Just get your head around the idea that your posses would have been owned in the very same way without the 5 additional dreads. IF 5 and FE can muster a fleet of 300 at this time and you cant its easy game. No matter if there is 5 gurista dudes sailing along or another 5 FE or -5- guys filling their places.
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tanya Kovacs on 23/03/2006 01:23:30
Originally by: Daxes
u dont honestly compare the npc events down south with the current situation or?
First, BoB never had a full war down there and also werent already outnumbered.
Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players (not to mention that its rather funny that the event team decides to do it AFTER the "problems" with our POS).
And if u are so much better and wouldnt have needed the help then i ask me why u still took it and are sending in the Event team dreads first.
I doubt you will ever get an answer to this.  As said in other thread: the timing of this "event" was daaaamn good, not like the little skirmish-involvements before. This wasn't an event, it was active help with 7 dreads (duno about bs-stuff) for 5/F-E. An event should entertain both sides, not slaughter a already outnumbered side (believe it or not 5/F-E, I wouldn't be happy with such an "event" when it would be against you) - so this isn't an event, it's all about politic and good connections to eventstaff.
Shame on you eventstaff. 
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Shinoobie
Originally by: Nobues
we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :)
No wonder so many Guristas die in the north on a daily basis....
how do you suggest a gurista event runs then?
20 event guys doing a FFA against everyone cause most likely everyone will have "npced" in the north ?
Or should they individually count everyones standings present in local together and side with the side who npced the least ?
As stated by some events guys on the forums the events are planned "ahead" without knowing who turns up for them and often without having a particular quickly developping 0.0 situation in mind.
The event guys are doomed whatever they do, if they get ppl into events interacting its called favourism or cheating, if they dont its called "far off what players want and not interactive". If its on a sunday peaktime they get called "lagblobbers omghax servers died unplayable" if its in a less active time its "buhuu we dont have pilots online at that time". If they bring just small ships the event gets called "unimpressive" and if they bring capitals "overpowered" and so on and on.
Just get your head around the idea that your posses would have been owned in the very same way without the 5 additional dreads. IF 5 and FE can muster a fleet of 300 at this time and you cant its easy game. No matter if there is 5 gurista dudes sailing along or another 5 FE or -5- guys filling their places.
Is this you justification?
What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think.
Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than....
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Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that
this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood?
Needed to shoot something. It's been a while!
would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Daxes
u dont honestly compare the npc events down south with the current situation or?
First, BoB never had a full war down there and also werent already outnumbered.
Wrong, BoB was engaging VC/FA/Imp and Celest in delve, had still skirmishes with you/Iron/Norad and now have war with SA while the eventline isnt "over".
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Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players (not to mention that its rather funny that the event team decides to do it AFTER the "problems" with our POS).
And if u are so much better and wouldnt have needed the help then i ask me why u still took it and are sending in the Event team dreads first.
Apparently the event was delayed from some earlier hours due to unknown reasons. However lag might have played into it and not to mention the fact that most of 5 and FE pilots involved were also europeans (doing overhours 4tw huh?).
Pos killing has been already an event down south because it gives players the opportunity to kill "big ships" instead of a bunch of bs which drop crap loot. Not to mention that our fleet tonight (check your own sources) consisted of enough ships to deal with your pos.
Why the event team was warping in first ? I guess it was either their wish, a roleplay decision or simple calculation by whoever lead our fleets. If you can count and know abit about eve mechanics im sure u will come to the conclusion that neither the "offlining problem" (if it actually happened i dont know) or the "additional help" was needed to deal with your tiny pos against 300+ players and 10+ dreads.
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Roule
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Roule on 23/03/2006 01:27:34
Dont hate the players hate the game, there werent 350 event guys there, which is how many were in local and in gang chat.
You dont like been outnumbered then you shouldnt play in another alliances space.
Take your beatings like man and accept that it was the 340 F-E,KAOS, and -5- members that blew you away and not the 10 guristas
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shinoobie
Is this you justification?
What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think.
Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than....
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Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that
this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood?
Needed to shoot something. It's been a while!
would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here.
no justification as noone is needed.
If the guristas had supported your pos with their 10 ppl event team we would have dealt with them. Since we had this 300+ guys fleet around, you know.
Where was your fleet again ?
As for the reasons guristas are around, prolly cause they can, prolly cause an event needs to be done before other events can happen or before Kali comes out. You know sometimes time schedules dont fit your liking. Can u give me a reason why the serpentis event launched when it launched or the titan event ?
I for one cant and im glad the devs keep it to themself when and where an event happens and "why".
Btw if you complain about the time and place, i couldnt make it to the miner2 event back in the days because i had to work the following day, buhuu guess what i didnt get something in compensation.
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Blazde
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:31:00 -
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I always thought there was a rule with events combat whereby you had to 'consent' to it. Actors would make it clear in local who they were and if you chose to fight and lose stuff that was your choice.
( http://support.eve-online.com/cgi-bin/eve_online.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=714 )
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If I lose my ship during the normal course of an event, will I get reimbursed?
Sadly, no. However, you will not lose a ship to an Aurora Actor or Producer for just being in their way. You will only be ębrought into the eventĘ if you choose to participate, which you can do either by saying so in local or by targeting one of the ships or deciding to ignore the warnings given by the actors. So if you see people talking in local with coloured text, sounding like pirates, just carry on with your own business and you wonĘt be attacked.
In the case of fixed POSes that's obviously not possible so I'd always assumed that POS owners were contacted out of character and asked if they minded their structures being attacked as part of an event, or at least given some warning far in advance in another way. But this is the second time I've heard people complaining that that didn't happen.
Events are a great part of EVE and I'm all for them getting mixed up in 0.0 warfare, but people are going to feel a bit aggrieved if they've done their homework on the fleet strength of their enemy, made strategic descions based on that, deployed expensive equipment and then their enemy is boosted significantly by a non-player intervention they couldn't possibly have anticipated and there's nothing they can do to back out.
But I'm sure the vast majority of corps would be all too happy to go along with the event, so long as it dosn't feel unfair. Perhaps the rules should be made a bit more clear.
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Roule
Edited by: Roule on 23/03/2006 01:27:34
Dont hate the players hate the game, there werent 350 event guys there, which is how many were in local and in gang chat.
You dont like been outnumbered then you shouldnt play in another alliances space.
Take your beatings like man and accept that it was the 340 F-E,KAOS, and -5- members that blew you away and not the 10 guristas
Did I moan about being outnumbered? No
Im trying to make the event more interesting :)
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The Trouble
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Shinoobie
Is this you justification?
What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think.
Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than....
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Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that
this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood?
Needed to shoot something. It's been a while!
would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here.
no justification as noone is needed.
If the guristas had supported your pos with their 10 ppl event team we would have dealt with them. Since we had this 300+ guys fleet around, you know.
Where was your fleet again ?
As for the reasons guristas are around, prolly cause they can, prolly cause an event needs to be done before other events can happen or before Kali comes out. You know sometimes time schedules dont fit your liking. Can u give me a reason why the serpentis event launched when it launched or the titan event ?
I for one cant and im glad the devs keep it to themself when and where an event happens and "why".
Btw if you complain about the time and place, i couldnt make it to the miner2 event back in the days because i had to work the following day, buhuu guess what i didnt get something in compensation.
My god you are soo boring.
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: Shinoobie on 23/03/2006 01:34:30
Double post 4tl :(
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Shinoobie
Is this you justification?
What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think.
Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than....
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Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that
this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood?
Needed to shoot something. It's been a while!
would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here.
no justification as noone is needed.
If the guristas had supported your pos with their 10 ppl event team we would have dealt with them. Since we had this 300+ guys fleet around, you know.
Where was your fleet again ?
As for the reasons guristas are around, prolly cause they can, prolly cause an event needs to be done before other events can happen or before Kali comes out. You know sometimes time schedules dont fit your liking. Can u give me a reason why the serpentis event launched when it launched or the titan event ?
I for one cant and im glad the devs keep it to themself when and where an event happens and "why".
Btw if you complain about the time and place, i couldnt make it to the miner2 event back in the days because i had to work the following day, buhuu guess what i didnt get something in compensation.
Read the post after yours, very interesting read :)
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Roule
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:35:00 -
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Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players
Not you but your buddy did:)
Please inform him that there were 340 real players there
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 23/03/2006 01:38:03
Do you honestly expect that factional warfare will be a purely offensive affair? These engagements are practice for what is to come.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:38:00 -
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G didnt lose anything yet. Their pos were put into reinforced mode.
As for the events in general, if an alliance is sided or against a certain faction it doesnt require any "personal" confirmation anymore, all BoB are Kos to the serpentis, something Iron and G gladly saddled up on if i remember the events in the south.
Didnt see you making a post about unfairness back then, or do you mind to link it for me ?
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Rajon Kelper
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:39:00 -
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tanya, accusing the GMs/Event team of corruption FTL.
Nice alt, btw. 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shinoobie
Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts?
Since many months ago?
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Shinoobie
Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts?
Since many months ago?
attacking or defending?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xanta
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Shinoobie
Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts?
Since many months ago?
attacking or defending?
Serpentis + FA + VC + NORED + Celes VS Bob, i recall a bob POS getting ***** slapped by a mothership and some dreads.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Shinoobie
Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts?
Since many months ago?
Originally by: Shinoobie
Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than....
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Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that
this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood?
Needed to shoot something. It's been a while!
would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here.
Why on earth would the Guristas reveal their long term plans to those theyre attacking? Of course theyre not going to tell you anything.
Theres many diffrent reasons for this attack;
1: Guristas are tired of getting slapped around and have decided to align themselves with 1 or more player alliances. (Hey... that sounds like what Serpentis and the Angel Cartel are doing, gasp a patern?)
2: They could simply be probing out the diffrent alliances for future plans.
3: They could be showing off their awesome power in preperation for anything funky theyve got planned for around the time faction warfare comes out.
4: Theyre pirates and want to kill stuff, you are todays designated stuff.
5: Vengeance for killing all of their minion NPC's, like serpentis theyre forced to work with the lesser evil of the two, in this case you are the major evil.
6: etc...
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Rajon Kelper
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:48:00 -
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josh is smart.
Theres this really uber 1337 thing coming up called the Kali Expansion... in this "Kali Expansion" theres a thing called Factional Warfare. perhaps the Event Corps are gearing up for that?
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