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Shinoobie	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:00:00 - [1] Edited by: Shinoobie on 23/03/2006 01:04:44 Tonight, under iffy circumstances, the Guristas decided to align themselves with FE and the 5 and assisted in attacking a friendly POS to IRON. Not only that, but decided to stick around and safespot in player controlled POS's. Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? If this is now an active feature of the game I would like to call Salvador Saparti of the Serpentis corperation to come and help take on the Guristas. Regards, http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles Maximum signture image dimensions are 400x120 - Udat
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:04:00 - [2] I doubt the serpentis would want to attack us, after all we did escort their newly aquired titan back to Serpentis Prime ---------------
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:05:00 - [3] under which rock have u been hiding the last couple of months ? Titan event and the serpentis event line down south have already an active approach of npc corps doing "their thing". Just because u are disadvantaged atm (npc corps can change sides quickly as seen in the south) doesnt mean there is a secret plot. I would guess the event time has a certain story mapped out, regardless of who controls the space. P.S. if the event was planned for d7 why would the guristas ally with some invader over the guys claiming the field for the last few months, especially if there was atleast prior to this event some minor contacts already from previous gurista events ? Just keep on crying about 10 event guys half in capitals and half in pimped up bs, im sure they tipped tonights happenings in your oppositions favour. Unlike the other 10+ capital ships and 320 pilots involved ofc.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:05:00 - [4] Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 23/03/2006 01:06:01 First the Serps are fighting BoB,second the serps have aided in attacking POS,third npc intervention in conflicts is extremely limited and only last a few weeks usually so ride it out and if FE can turn this to the favore its YOUR fault for letting it stop you. ----------------------------------------------- Done is done Yes, there will be no taking back Every journey must come to an end All hail to the Gunslinger Beyond our reach, out of control
Xanta	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:06:00 - [5] Originally by: Amthrianius I doubt the serpentis would want to attack us, after all we did escort their newly aquired titan back to Serpentis Prime you also kill guristas all the time guess they have a bad memory ;s
Shinoobie	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:06:00 - [6] Well you shoot Guristas all day and they seem to join you. Seems standings are irrelevent. Hence I am asking for Serpentis assistance :) http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles Maximum signture image dimensions are 400x120 - Udat
Nobues	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:08:00 - [7] we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :)
Shinoobie	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Nobues we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :) No wonder so many Guristas die in the north on a daily basis.... http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles Maximum signture image dimensions are 400x120 - Udat
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:11:00 - [9] I also demand that the natural enemies of the angels come and help me with my current level 4 mission as it's taking ages. if they could offline the angel's targeting sensors it would be lovely. kthx.
Daxes	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:12:00 - [10] Edited by: Daxes on 23/03/2006 01:13:24 Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 23/03/2006 01:06:56 under which rock have u been hiding the last couple of months ? Titan event and the serpentis event line down south have already an active approach of npc corps doing "their thing". Just because u are disadvantaged atm (npc corps can change sides quickly as seen in the south) doesnt mean there is a secret plot. I would guess the event team has a certain story mapped out, regardless of who controls the space (or needs from a subjective pov "help"). P.S. if the event was planned for d7 why would the guristas ally with some invader over the guys claiming the field for the last few months, especially if there was atleast prior to this event some minor contacts already from previous gurista events ? Just keep on crying about 10 event guys half in capitals and half in pimped up bs, im sure they tipped tonights happenings in your oppositions favour. Unlike the other 10+ capital ships and 320 pilots involved ofc. u dont honestly compare the npc events down south with the current situation or? First, BoB never had a full war down there and also werent already outnumbered. Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players (not to mention that its rather funny that the event team decides to do it AFTER the "problems" with our POS). And if u are so much better and wouldnt have needed the help then i ask me why u still took it and are sending in the Event team dreads first.
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Shinoobie Originally by: Nobues we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :) No wonder so many Guristas die in the north on a daily basis.... how do you suggest a gurista event runs then? 20 event guys doing a FFA against everyone cause most likely everyone will have "npced" in the north ? Or should they individually count everyones standings present in local together and side with the side who npced the least ? As stated by some events guys on the forums the events are planned "ahead" without knowing who turns up for them and often without having a particular quickly developping 0.0 situation in mind. The event guys are doomed whatever they do, if they get ppl into events interacting its called favourism or cheating, if they dont its called "far off what players want and not interactive". If its on a sunday peaktime they get called "lagblobbers omghax servers died unplayable" if its in a less active time its "buhuu we dont have pilots online at that time". If they bring just small ships the event gets called "unimpressive" and if they bring capitals "overpowered" and so on and on. Just get your head around the idea that your posses would have been owned in the very same way without the 5 additional dreads. IF 5 and FE can muster a fleet of 300 at this time and you cant its easy game. No matter if there is 5 gurista dudes sailing along or another 5 FE or -5- guys filling their places.
Tanya Kovacs	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:22:00 - [12] Edited by: Tanya Kovacs on 23/03/2006 01:23:30 Originally by: Daxes u dont honestly compare the npc events down south with the current situation or? First, BoB never had a full war down there and also werent already outnumbered. Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players (not to mention that its rather funny that the event team decides to do it AFTER the "problems" with our POS). And if u are so much better and wouldnt have needed the help then i ask me why u still took it and are sending in the Event team dreads first. I doubt you will ever get an answer to this. As said in other thread: the timing of this "event" was daaaamn good, not like the little skirmish-involvements before. This wasn't an event, it was active help with 7 dreads (duno about bs-stuff) for 5/F-E. An event should entertain both sides, not slaughter a already outnumbered side (believe it or not 5/F-E, I wouldn't be happy with such an "event" when it would be against you) - so this isn't an event, it's all about politic and good connections to eventstaff. Shame on you eventstaff. -- All postings reflects just my personal opinion.
Shinoobie	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Shinoobie Originally by: Nobues we dont shot them we "train" there poilts :) No wonder so many Guristas die in the north on a daily basis.... how do you suggest a gurista event runs then? 20 event guys doing a FFA against everyone cause most likely everyone will have "npced" in the north ? Or should they individually count everyones standings present in local together and side with the side who npced the least ? As stated by some events guys on the forums the events are planned "ahead" without knowing who turns up for them and often without having a particular quickly developping 0.0 situation in mind. The event guys are doomed whatever they do, if they get ppl into events interacting its called favourism or cheating, if they dont its called "far off what players want and not interactive". If its on a sunday peaktime they get called "lagblobbers omghax servers died unplayable" if its in a less active time its "buhuu we dont have pilots online at that time". If they bring just small ships the event gets called "unimpressive" and if they bring capitals "overpowered" and so on and on. Just get your head around the idea that your posses would have been owned in the very same way without the 5 additional dreads. IF 5 and FE can muster a fleet of 300 at this time and you cant its easy game. No matter if there is 5 gurista dudes sailing along or another 5 FE or -5- guys filling their places. Is this you justification? What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think. Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than.... Quote: Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood? Needed to shoot something. It's been a while! would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here. http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles Maximum signture image dimensions are 400x120 - Udat
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Daxes u dont honestly compare the npc events down south with the current situation or? First, BoB never had a full war down there and also werent already outnumbered. Wrong, BoB was engaging VC/FA/Imp and Celest in delve, had still skirmishes with you/Iron/Norad and now have war with SA while the eventline isnt "over". Quote: Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players (not to mention that its rather funny that the event team decides to do it AFTER the "problems" with our POS). And if u are so much better and wouldnt have needed the help then i ask me why u still took it and are sending in the Event team dreads first. Apparently the event was delayed from some earlier hours due to unknown reasons. However lag might have played into it and not to mention the fact that most of 5 and FE pilots involved were also europeans (doing overhours 4tw huh?). Pos killing has been already an event down south because it gives players the opportunity to kill "big ships" instead of a bunch of bs which drop crap loot. Not to mention that our fleet tonight (check your own sources) consisted of enough ships to deal with your pos. Why the event team was warping in first ? I guess it was either their wish, a roleplay decision or simple calculation by whoever lead our fleets. If you can count and know abit about eve mechanics im sure u will come to the conclusion that neither the "offlining problem" (if it actually happened i dont know) or the "additional help" was needed to deal with your tiny pos against 300+ players and 10+ dreads.
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:27:00 - [15] Edited by: Roule on 23/03/2006 01:27:34 Dont hate the players hate the game, there werent 350 event guys there, which is how many were in local and in gang chat. You dont like been outnumbered then you shouldnt play in another alliances space. Take your beatings like man and accept that it was the 340 F-E,KAOS, and -5- members that blew you away and not the 10 guristas
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Shinoobie Is this you justification? What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think. Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than.... Quote: Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood? Needed to shoot something. It's been a while! would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here. no justification as noone is needed. If the guristas had supported your pos with their 10 ppl event team we would have dealt with them. Since we had this 300+ guys fleet around, you know. Where was your fleet again ? As for the reasons guristas are around, prolly cause they can, prolly cause an event needs to be done before other events can happen or before Kali comes out. You know sometimes time schedules dont fit your liking. Can u give me a reason why the serpentis event launched when it launched or the titan event ? I for one cant and im glad the devs keep it to themself when and where an event happens and "why". Btw if you complain about the time and place, i couldnt make it to the miner2 event back in the days because i had to work the following day, buhuu guess what i didnt get something in compensation.
Blazde	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:31:00 - [17] I always thought there was a rule with events combat whereby you had to 'consent' to it. Actors would make it clear in local who they were and if you chose to fight and lose stuff that was your choice. ( http://support.eve-online.com/cgi-bin/eve_online.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=714 ) Quote: If I lose my ship during the normal course of an event, will I get reimbursed? Sadly, no. However, you will not lose a ship to an Aurora Actor or Producer for just being in their way. You will only be æbrought into the eventÆ if you choose to participate, which you can do either by saying so in local or by targeting one of the ships or deciding to ignore the warnings given by the actors. So if you see people talking in local with coloured text, sounding like pirates, just carry on with your own business and you wonÆt be attacked. In the case of fixed POSes that's obviously not possible so I'd always assumed that POS owners were contacted out of character and asked if they minded their structures being attacked as part of an event, or at least given some warning far in advance in another way. But this is the second time I've heard people complaining that that didn't happen. Events are a great part of EVE and I'm all for them getting mixed up in 0.0 warfare, but people are going to feel a bit aggrieved if they've done their homework on the fleet strength of their enemy, made strategic descions based on that, deployed expensive equipment and then their enemy is boosted significantly by a non-player intervention they couldn't possibly have anticipated and there's nothing they can do to back out. But I'm sure the vast majority of corps would be all too happy to go along with the event, so long as it dosn't feel unfair. Perhaps the rules should be made a bit more clear. _
Shinoobie	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:31:00 - [18] Originally by: Roule Edited by: Roule on 23/03/2006 01:27:34 Dont hate the players hate the game, there werent 350 event guys there, which is how many were in local and in gang chat. You dont like been outnumbered then you shouldnt play in another alliances space. Take your beatings like man and accept that it was the 340 F-E,KAOS, and -5- members that blew you away and not the 10 guristas Did I moan about being outnumbered? No Im trying to make the event more interesting :) http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles Maximum signture image dimensions are 400x120 - Udat
The Trouble	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Shinoobie Is this you justification? What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think. Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than.... Quote: Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood? Needed to shoot something. It's been a while! would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here. no justification as noone is needed. If the guristas had supported your pos with their 10 ppl event team we would have dealt with them. Since we had this 300+ guys fleet around, you know. Where was your fleet again ? As for the reasons guristas are around, prolly cause they can, prolly cause an event needs to be done before other events can happen or before Kali comes out. You know sometimes time schedules dont fit your liking. Can u give me a reason why the serpentis event launched when it launched or the titan event ? I for one cant and im glad the devs keep it to themself when and where an event happens and "why". Btw if you complain about the time and place, i couldnt make it to the miner2 event back in the days because i had to work the following day, buhuu guess what i didnt get something in compensation. My god you are soo boring.
Shinoobie	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:34:00 - [20] Edited by: Shinoobie on 23/03/2006 01:34:30 Double post 4tl :( http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles Maximum signture image dimensions are 400x120 - Udat
Shinoobie	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Shinoobie Is this you justification? What a joke. What would have happened if those 5 extra dread were on OUR side and helped fend off the attack and killed your dreads? Different story I think. Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than.... Quote: Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood? Needed to shoot something. It's been a while! would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here. no justification as noone is needed. If the guristas had supported your pos with their 10 ppl event team we would have dealt with them. Since we had this 300+ guys fleet around, you know. Where was your fleet again ? As for the reasons guristas are around, prolly cause they can, prolly cause an event needs to be done before other events can happen or before Kali comes out. You know sometimes time schedules dont fit your liking. Can u give me a reason why the serpentis event launched when it launched or the titan event ? I for one cant and im glad the devs keep it to themself when and where an event happens and "why". Btw if you complain about the time and place, i couldnt make it to the miner2 event back in the days because i had to work the following day, buhuu guess what i didnt get something in compensation. Read the post after yours, very interesting read :) http://img208.exs.cx/img208/1889/siggy9ox.jpg Shuttles Maximum signture image dimensions are 400x120 - Udat
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:35:00 - [22] Quote: Secondly, the timing is really weird, why does the event team appear to a time where the presence of G/Iron is rather low and thus knowing that u wont get a real fight and instead they just do POS killing, stuff which should be done by real players Not you but your buddy did:) Please inform him that there were 340 real players there
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:38:00 - [23] Edited by: Vishnej on 23/03/2006 01:38:03 Do you honestly expect that factional warfare will be a purely offensive affair? These engagements are practice for what is to come. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:38:00 - [24] G didnt lose anything yet. Their pos were put into reinforced mode. As for the events in general, if an alliance is sided or against a certain faction it doesnt require any "personal" confirmation anymore, all BoB are Kos to the serpentis, something Iron and G gladly saddled up on if i remember the events in the south. Didnt see you making a post about unfairness back then, or do you mind to link it for me ?
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:39:00 - [25] tanya, accusing the GMs/Event team of corruption FTL. Nice alt, btw. --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:40:00 - [26] Originally by: Shinoobie Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? Since many months ago? ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Xanta	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Shinoobie Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? Since many months ago? attacking or defending?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Xanta Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Shinoobie Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? Since many months ago? attacking or defending? Serpentis + FA + VC + NORED + Celes VS Bob, i recall a bob POS getting ***** slapped by a mothership and some dreads. ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Shinoobie Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? Since many months ago? Originally by: Shinoobie Also, if it was planned out by the events team way in advance, then surely a story more than.... Quote: Lucash Helmatt > Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighborhood? Needed to shoot something. It's been a while! would be created. ATM there is no reason for Guristas to be here. Why on earth would the Guristas reveal their long term plans to those theyre attacking? Of course theyre not going to tell you anything. Theres many diffrent reasons for this attack; 1: Guristas are tired of getting slapped around and have decided to align themselves with 1 or more player alliances. (Hey... that sounds like what Serpentis and the Angel Cartel are doing, gasp a patern?) 2: They could simply be probing out the diffrent alliances for future plans. 3: They could be showing off their awesome power in preperation for anything funky theyve got planned for around the time faction warfare comes out. 4: Theyre pirates and want to kill stuff, you are todays designated stuff. 5: Vengeance for killing all of their minion NPC's, like serpentis theyre forced to work with the lesser evil of the two, in this case you are the major evil. 6: etc... ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:48:00 - [30] josh is smart. Theres this really uber 1337 thing coming up called the Kali Expansion... in this "Kali Expansion" theres a thing called Factional Warfare. perhaps the Event Corps are gearing up for that? --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Tanya Kovacs	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:50:00 - [31] Originally by: Rajon Kelper tanya, accusing the GMs/Event team of corruption FTL. Nice alt, btw. Um what's so strange about a char not playing since june 2003? Must be strange for you, but trust me: there are players which started after 2003/2004 Anyway: Where do I accuse the eventstuff for corruption? Read my post again please. It was just strange to see so many dreads supporting a already huge fleet (gratz for this numbers btw - no irony here), catching a lot of POS-fire. And read the post of blazde please. -- All postings reflects just my personal opinion.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:50:00 - [32] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 23/03/2006 01:52:49 Originally by: Xanta Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Xanta Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Shinoobie Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? Since many months ago? attacking or defending? Serpentis + FA + VC + NORED + Celes VS Bob, i recall a bob POS getting *** slapped by a mothership and some dreads. but they attacked a bob region not helped defend a fa + vc + norad + celes region seems a bit different to me :/ Serpentis + Players attacked a Bob POS. Guristas + Players attacked an Iron POS. I dont see the real diffrence? Originally by:** Shinoobie Well you shoot Guristas all day and they seem to join you. Seems standings are irrelevent. Hence I am asking for Serpentis assistance :) And to the 5 members who seem to have to post, I'mnot crying just calling in assistance in the only way WE know how. You dont get to call for help, one of the event people picks an alliance to contact for offer help. Criteria? God knows, Serpentis aligned themselves with the underdog, cant say theres real underdog in the north but i guess they picked the Five and FA for being in control of Guristas home space? Originally by: Rajon Kelper josh is smart. Theres this really uber 1337 thing coming up called the Kali Expansion... in this "Kali Expansion" theres a thing called Factional Warfare. perhaps the Event Corps are gearing up for that? Indeed i am and it does look like it. So far the only two factions who havent really mobilzed yet are Sansha and the Covenant. Though Sansha did serve as target practice for the Angel Cartel and ASCN iirc. Whether or not involving the 0.0 alliances in faction warfare is a good thing, imagine all the Caldari NAvy mission runners signing up with the state on Patch day and finding themselves face to face with the Five and F-E ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Xanta	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:55:00 - [33] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Serpentis + Players attacked a Bob POS. Guristas + Players attacked an Iron POS. I dont see the real diffrence? the bob pos wasn't being used in a sov ping pong game with the way things are now this puts any g claim on d7 days back
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.03.23 01:56:00 - [34] Originally by: Tanya Kovacs Anyway: Where do I accuse the eventstuff for corruption? Read my post again please. It was just strange to see so many dreads supporting a already huge fleet (gratz for this numbers btw - no irony here), catching a lot of POS-fire. And read the post of blazde please. Q: What do you think happens when an alliance announces in their alliance channel that theyre gonna be escorting 6 Guristas dreadnaughts? A: Everybody and their mom gears up for combat, duh. Who doesnt want to escort 6 Guristas dreads? If not for the possible reward then for the total awesomeness of 6 guristas dreads. ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:07:00 - [35] Girls calm down, stop talking about the 10 event team players there and start talking about the 340 -5-/F-E/KAOS that were in D7 tonight and that only 5 of the 13 dreads there werent real players, so reguardless of the event team been there or not i am afraid the results of this planned alliance op was inevitable
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:12:00 - [36] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain imagine all the Caldari NAvy mission runners signing up with the state on Patch day and finding themselves face to face with the Five and F-E Oh god, the facton loot would flow like a river. Btw, awesome sig. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Mrs Nemisis	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:12:00 - [37] Shame on you GM/Event team!! Well we know whos side they are on.
Xanta	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:12:00 - [38] Originally by: Roule Girls calm down, stop talking about the 10 event team players there and start talking about the 340 -5-/F-E/KAOS that were in D7 tonight and that only 5 of the 13 dreads there werent real players, so reguardless of the event team been there or not i am afraid the results of this planned alliance op was inevitable yet it would have taken longer and your losses would have been higher 5 dreads is still a large amount of firepower
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Xanta Originally by: Roule Girls calm down, stop talking about the 10 event team players there and start talking about the 340 -5-/F-E/KAOS that were in D7 tonight and that only 5 of the 13 dreads there werent real players, so reguardless of the event team been there or not i am afraid the results of this planned alliance op was inevitable yet it would have taken longer and your losses would have been higher 5 dreads is still a large amount of firepower You do know that 5 didnt even bring our fleet out ya? The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Blazde	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Kcel Chim Didnt see you making a post about unfairness back then, or do you mind to link it for me ? If you're replying to my post, there's nothing partisan about it at all. As I said I assumed POS owners were contacted ahead of time when the BoB POS was attacked. It only seemed to be BoB members complaining then. Perhaps they didn't know it was pre-agreed with BoB leadership shrug. But now I see G/IRON directors complaining, so my assumption is perhaps wrong? If the rules have been changed we should know about it. Events should be exicting things, not something that everyone complains about afterwards, and there's only complaints when a POS is attacked. _
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Xanta Originally by: Roule Girls calm down, stop talking about the 10 event team players there and start talking about the 340 -5-/F-E/KAOS that were in D7 tonight and that only 5 of the 13 dreads there werent real players, so reguardless of the event team been there or not i am afraid the results of this planned alliance op was inevitable yet it would have taken longer and your losses would have been higher 5 dreads is still a large amount of firepower yes it would have taken abit longer but then the pilot who chose to jump in Battleships instead of Dreads coz there were now enough POSpumbling firepower and they wanted to get killmails, so we would have had the same amount of dreads and only a few less battleships. My suggestion would be to stop crying about this and get more members online if you wish to take a system, well that would atleast be the good old fashion way, and stop posting and get into a battleship to help your friends out, i can afford to troll for abit as you have no firepower left but your pos's and your fighter drones your assigning to frigates
Lorth	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:21:00 - [42] It does seem wierd that the event team would take sides in a conflict of like. As far as I'm aware the attack on the BOB POS was done in a system which wasn't under constant attack in a developing conflict. I also seem to remember the system in question being NPC sovernty anyways. I'm not saying that this wouldn't have happened with out NPC help. But it is a thorn in the side when your involved in a conflict and the even team brings in thier own dreads to help a specific side. And yes 5 dreads is a big help, even if the result would have been the same with out them.
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:25:00 - [43] Originally by: Lorth It does seem wierd that the event team would take sides in a conflict of like. As far as I'm aware the attack on the BOB POS was done in a system which wasn't under constant attack in a developing conflict. I also seem to remember the system in question being NPC sovernty anyways. I'm not saying that this wouldn't have happened with out NPC help. But it is a thorn in the side when your involved in a conflict and the even team brings in thier own dreads to help a specific side. And yes 5 dreads is a big help, even if the result would have been the same with out them. If the Teneriffis incident was permissable by the GM's... I dont see WHY people are whining about todays events..
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:30:00 - [44] Well if i didnt know the events team were comming i would have been in a nag and not a tempist as i wanted to get some killmails (Which i have) and there are a few more of us that did the same, so lets not put a big emphasis on the 5 dreads they brought, and lets put the emphasis on the 10 extra players that came with the other 340 real players in our gang, The bob incident was the first time that NPCs interviened in a conflict and i am sure they are sorry that the curcumstances couldnt be exactly copied, dont come crying on the forums when they help you on one hand and slap you with the other, maybe the events team didnt want to help the same alliance twice in there 2 outings
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:35:00 - [45] I am a little dissapointed myself, in the sense that when we do squash this incursion many will point to the assistance the Guristas offered as the main circumstances for our victory. Regarless if this is the case or not, because they helped us once, people will attribute it to the rest of the campaign! :( :( :( Chimera Sales
Lorth	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:38:00 - [46] Originally by: SengH Originally by: Lorth It does seem wierd that the event team would take sides in a conflict of like. As far as I'm aware the attack on the BOB POS was done in a system which wasn't under constant attack in a developing conflict. I also seem to remember the system in question being NPC sovernty anyways. I'm not saying that this wouldn't have happened with out NPC help. But it is a thorn in the side when your involved in a conflict and the even team brings in thier own dreads to help a specific side. And yes 5 dreads is a big help, even if the result would have been the same with out them. If the Teneriffis incident was permissable by the GM's... I dont see WHY people are whining about todays events.. I'm not whinning. I'm simply trying to suggest that in the future the even team not take place in an active sovernty war. While I know that the POS's would have been taken into renforced quickly anyways, its just wierd that the even team would have taken part in a POS killing in a system of such importance. And yes the Teni incident sucked, but it still doesn't mean CCP, the GM's, or the even team should be premitted to do what ever they want because one side got the bad end of the stick a few mounths back.
madhapee	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:38:00 - [47] Originally by: Roule and lets put the emphasis on the 10 extra players that came with the other 340 real players in our gang can i get some screenshots of the fleet? It was so awesome, so many bs it was amazing. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Lorth	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:43:00 - [48] Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar I am a little dissapointed myself, in the sense that when we do squash this incursion many will point to the assistance the Guristas offered as the main circumstances for our victory. Regarless if this is the case or not, because they helped us once, people will attribute it to the rest of the campaign! :( :( :( You do have a point. And yes 16 mounths down the road people will still be pointing to this and saying the [5] have gm help etc etc. Perhaps anouther reason the even team should stay out of matter of significant player importance. No doubt the POS's would have been taken out anyways, but everyone will remember the NPC help that came with it. If the players are doing a good job of making content for them selves, at the highest level availible to them, why are we having out side interferance? It didn't make a differance here, the result would have been the same. But what about next time when two groups are involved in what can be considered the 'end game' of eve (IE allience conflicts) and the presence of the even team makes a differance.
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:46:00 - [49] The thing a lot of ppl are missing is that the 'team' is compliling data that will be used to improve client performance in large battles as well as hopefully touching up some of the painfull dreadnought issues that still need correcting. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Raeff	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:50:00 - [50] Edited by: Raeff on 23/03/2006 02:52:30 i dont know if you guys remember or not, but there is a story line and roleplay side to this game .. it will occasionally have to mix with what else is going on we just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get involved .. luck ftw simple as that .. maybe it will happen to you too one day?
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:50:00 - [51] while for IRON/G that may suck a bit , it was a great event, we had a lot of fun our fleet was assembled BEFORE most knew that Guristas would join us (atleast speaking for fe) the only Dreads used were F-E/Guristas, ifGuristas wouldnt have come with dreads, F-E could have field some more i think, but more importantly the entire .5. dreadfleet wasnt used The Guristas help, DID help us, it speed things up, and losses might have been a bit higher (due to the fact that it would have taken longer). But if anyone of the G/IRON guys present in d7 that day is honest, he'll admit that it changed nothing in the outcome. Also ppl i advise you to get yourselves rdy for Kali (Factional Warfare) Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
TickTackTuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:51:00 - [52] Edited by: TickTackTuck on 23/03/2006 02:52:26 congrats to .5. for being able to bring 10% of their members to a battle (.5./F-E/KAOS = 3500 ppl). Btw i see no mention of the F-E pos that was killed today with no resistance at all.
Eskiban Vlasic	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:52:00 - [53] This REEKS of meddling Great bang-up job - Vlasic of TW Fame The Suicidal Newb F.R.E.E. Explorer
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:53:00 - [54] "I'm not whinning. I'm simply trying to suggest that in the future the even team not take place in an active sovernty war." In the future the faction warfare system will kick in, and suddenly half the alliances is going to find themselves facing the up-to-now-technical-but-not-really-present owners of the space they've been claiming. Will these alliances also complain that "omg the Guristas are shooting us instead of allowing us to chain them in belts day in day out"..? This is just taste of things to come. Oh, and all the "GMs have shown they picked side and whose alts they are" whining is quite silly, considering the same team pretty much gets to play all factions in turns, depending on the day and exact storyline going. So by this logic they are one day G's alts, then 5's alts another day, then whoever-else's alts week after... talk about personality split. :s
Lorth	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:55:00 - [55] Originally by: Raeff i dont know if you guys remember or not, but there is a story line and roleplay side to this game .. it will occasionally have to mix with what else is going on we just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get involved .. luck ftw simple as that .. maybe it will happen to you too We are involved in the story line and the roleplay aspect of eve, with out having the NPC's step in to add thier own 'content.' What about player made content? Regional war-fare done completly between the players. Do we need NPC involvent at all?
madhapee	Posted - 2006.03.23 02:56:00 - [56] Screenie of gang of 330+ people this was by far the biggest gang I have ever been in :) FE/5/KAOS/BIO-C 4T f**king win! Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:03:00 - [57] Originally by: madhapee Edited by: madhapee on 23/03/2006 02:59:41 Screenie of gang of 330+ people this was by far the biggest gang I have ever been in :) FE/5/KAOS/BIO-C 4T fking win! I don't think the guristas tipped the balance :) I got a ton more screenies, lag was actually quite good, only had to relog twice. izzat a muthaship? ---------------- Originally by:** Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
slip66	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:14:00 - [58] Originally by: Shinoobie Edited by: Shinoobie on 23/03/2006 01:04:44 Tonight, under iffy circumstances, the Guristas decided to align themselves with FE and the 5 and assisted in attacking a friendly POS to IRON. Not only that, but decided to stick around and safespot in player controlled POS's. Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? If this is now an active feature of the game I would like to call Salvador Saparti of the Serpentis corperation to come and help take on the Guristas. Regards, its happened a number of times now in delve, and foutain with the serpentis vrs bob Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:14:00 - [59] 0.0 people shouldn't be complaining about event consentuality, it just makes you look weak. Anyone with sovereignty should not be in shock when they come under attack. If I had to guess why all these previously mindless NPC driven factions are suddenly meddling into player politics, I'd guess it has something to do with Factional Warfare. Something with the fact that players pick sides to fight for, and you'll see lots of these gurista "players" harassing you in the future. Maybe its a wakeup call? Be happy they decided to show up at a time where you didn't stand a chance to begin with :p Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Kaaii	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:16:00 - [60] See now if you hadn't "thrown out" all the allainces (northern cleansing) in fade etc, there would be more fodder for you to throw on thier swords.... Mr nose, meet mr face.. "..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.." Tradeing 101
Civik	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:19:00 - [61] /Emote still waiting for CCP statement on this issue.
Lorth	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:20:00 - [62] Originally by: Raeff are they not players? are their ships not as easily destroyed as yours or mine? no god mode involved, we could have easily fielded more than three times that many dreads .. whats the big deal? 300 fe/5/kaos players, and i guess it was 10 Guristas .. wow man they really turned the tide .. we were SO doomed without them You really missed the point didn't you? At no time did I ever say that guristas made a differance, as a matter of fact I said they didn't. But no they are not real players. The dreads are spawned for them. The charactors they use are spawned. No need for isk, skill points, clones, there is a lot thats differant between an event charactor and me and you. Lets take the specifics out of this for a second, and ask your self if this is something thats really good for the game. Should allience wars be in part decided by the event team? 5 dreads fielded against a specific allience can make a differance in the campain. How would you feel if your attacking XX allience, and suddenly they have 5 extra dreads at no costs to them. I am not in favour of faction war fare being a situation were one allience suddenly benifits from the support of the even team. It doesn't make sence if CCP in part takes sides in allience conflicts. We've done a good job at creating our own content, without the help of the event team thus far.
Adamus TorK	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:24:00 - [63] blah blah blah, flame, blah blah blah, ramble, rubbish, blah blahhh... This is a game, and you and me and everyone playing it for FUN! The event was great and Guristas Pilots made excellent RPG play. G/IRON/RAZOR/CELES/FATE and etc came here to play with us... we answered the game, perhaps you think its was unfair, but who cares? Its a game, its has rules which has not been broken afaik.... "ESRB Notice: Game Experience May Change During Online PlayThe game experencie may" This game will always change, and we all love it. Good work CCP, <3 EVE :) ---------------------------------
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:29:00 - [64] could we pretty plz make the (node)reinforcment of d7 permanent? Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Aegis Osiris	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:35:00 - [65] Raeff, in all honesty Lorth wasn't complaining about the Guristas folks changing or really affecting the outcome of the day. His concern is that CCP sanctioned NPC faction involvement will degrade the spontaneous, player driven content we all have grown to know and love. His concern isn't invalid or a whine (unlike other posts I've read so far), but with that said, I'd urge everyone to take a 'wait and see' attitude. None of us really know what the Dev's are planning with Factional Warfare and Kali, the information given so far is, of necessity, vague. Let it develop, and lets try and enjoy the game. ________________________________________________ This thread does not exist
Lorth	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:41:00 - [66] Originally by: Aegis Osiris Raeff, in all honesty Lorth wasn't complaining about the Guristas folks changing or really affecting the outcome of the day. His concern is that CCP sanctioned NPC faction involvement will degrade the spontaneous, player driven content we all have grown to know and love. His concern isn't invalid or a whine (unlike other posts I've read so far), but with that said, I'd urge everyone to take a 'wait and see' attitude. None of us really know what the Dev's are planning with Factional Warfare and Kali, the information given so far is, of necessity, vague. Let it develop, and lets try and enjoy the game. Thanks. I think this is a topic for anouther thread. Any disscussion here will be overshadowed by other discussions.
csebal	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:43:00 - [67] Originally by: Tiuwaz could we pretty plz make the (node)reinforcment of d7 permanent? A big YEA vote for the idea. What about spending that subscription money, to buy enough stuff so you can reinforce every single system that has stations in it? :) After 3 years i finally had a fight with 200-300 people where i was able to lock and fire on targets. To me, that was worth more than any downed POSs will ever be. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.
Krimsonblade	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:52:00 - [68] Funny G/Iron are wasting so much time and resources fighting a unwinnable battle with F-E when your about to have hells fury tearing down your back door.
Malken	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:53:00 - [69] badgers are blue and pandas are pink! just another fine ending to a "OMG!!!! WHATEVER THREAD!!"
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:54:00 - [70] Originally by: madhapee Originally by: Roule and lets put the emphasis on the 10 extra players that came with the other 340 real players in our gang can i get some screenshots of the fleet? It was so awesome, so many bs it was amazing. sure here gurista fleet + ours --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
Halseth Durn	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:59:00 - [71] Edited by: Halseth Durn on 23/03/2006 04:00:40 I've got the Sanshas hauling for our mining ops now. As long as I role play in local chat, they think they are running an "event". Seriously, this is the "coming of the lord" for eve. Please dont F it up by complaining to the point where CCP says "screw-it, it's not worth the hassle". When faction standings become a real factor in game play come Kali, you are going to have to either adjust your game or play with the kids in empire. It's that simple. Life in Venal, Stain, Fountain, Curse, ect will change the most. Good standings with the regions owners will be a requisite for docking privs. You want to chain NPCs for a week? Then you better be willing to do missions for them for a week first. And that STILL wont keep you immune from the Devs saddling up as your regions hosts and playing "kick the can" with your ship for a while. If you have a hard time grasping these concepts, just think of CCP as some uber corporation with the ability to own your a$$ or fly with anyone that will have them whenever or whereever they want.
madhapee	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:00:00 - [72] awesome screenies pyro, this one is awesome : Linkage Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:06:00 - [73] Originally by: Halseth Durn Edited by: Halseth Durn on 23/03/2006 04:00:40 I've got the Sanshas hauling for our mining ops now. As long as I role play in local chat, they think they are running an "event". Seriously, this is the "coming of the lord" for eve. Please dont F it up by complaining to the point where CCP says "screw-it, it's not worth the hassle". When faction standings become a real factor in game play come Kali, you are going to have to either adjust your game or play with the kids in empire. It's that simple. Life in Venal, Stain, Fountain, Curse, ect will change the most. Good standings with the regions owners will be a requisite for docking privs. You want to chain NPCs for a week? Then you better be willing to do missions for them for a week first. And that STILL wont keep you immune from the Devs saddling up as your regions hosts and playing "kick the can" with your ship for a while. If you have a hard time grasping these concepts, just think of CCP as some uber corporation with the ability to own your a$$ or fly with anyone that will have them whenever or whereever they want. Good post. Right on the money. Time for the 0.0 alliances to face a little realism. _________________ Shoot Tyrants - join Jericho Fraction!
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:17:00 - [74] Edited by: SengH on 23/03/2006 04:22:37 Originally by: Lorth Originally by: SengH Originally by: Lorth It does seem wierd that the event team would take sides in a conflict of like. As far as I'm aware the attack on the BOB POS was done in a system which wasn't under constant attack in a developing conflict. I also seem to remember the system in question being NPC sovernty anyways. I'm not saying that this wouldn't have happened with out NPC help. But it is a thorn in the side when your involved in a conflict and the even team brings in thier own dreads to help a specific side. And yes 5 dreads is a big help, even if the result would have been the same with out them. If the Teneriffis incident was permissable by the GM's... I dont see WHY people are whining about todays events.. I'm not whinning. I'm simply trying to suggest that in the future the even team not take place in an active sovernty war. While I know that the POS's would have been taken into renforced quickly anyways, its just wierd that the even team would have taken part in a POS killing in a system of such importance. And yes the Teni incident sucked, but it still doesn't mean CCP, the GM's, or the even team should be premitted to do what ever they want because one side got the bad end of the stick a few mounths back. What I'm saying is that we just sucked it up and dealt with it our own way rather than whining for CCP to fix it even though it was a major ****up on their part. If G/Iron can whine about this, I wonder what would have happened if CCP had pulled a "Teneriffis" on them (and no the whole drone ruling was the LEAST of the problems). Things happen, we deal with them, and still accomplished our goals. The GM's changed the rules halfway during the attack which was pretty suicidal to begin with but we still dealt with it and moved on. Which proved FAR more expedient than waiting for the petition. Furthermore, its not like G/Iron did not obtain help of their own when the Serpentis requested their help in removing BoB poses. To say that now its somehow GM "favoritism" is hypocritical. CCP has interfered on territorial disputes before, now and I'm sure they will again in the future. One side will always lose when CCP resolves any dispute between two players, ie. ship reimbursment etc. The same will happen with factional warfare and when ISD creates 0.0 events that involve 0.0 residents.
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:38:00 - [75] do we really need 2 threads with the same topic?
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.03.23 04:53:00 - [76] "/Emote still waiting for CCP statement on this issue." The event staff rarely reads this forum section, so you're quite likely waiting in vain... you have far higher chance to attract their attention in the Events section, instead.
Baun	Posted - 2006.03.23 05:43:00 - [77] I've never been in favor of event people interfering in player politics (even when they were hitting BoB .... though i was obviously more ambivalent about that), but the real question is why would they side with FE in this conflict? Aren't both G/IRON and FE/5 against the Guristas here? FE/5 holds guristas patrolled areas and G/IRON and trying to take those areas. If anything wouldn't the guristas want to help G/IRON take back the area in their name? The Enemy's Gate is Down
Pettu	Posted - 2006.03.23 05:46:00 - [78] Edited by: Pettu on 23/03/2006 05:49:56 For what I've heard (and this is by no means 100% confirmed), this thing has been planned by the event team for some time. FE directors were contacted by them x weeks/months ago, and the concern was PA and NBSI alliance and trying to get them out of the region. Something about PA/NBSI being incompetent, etc, blah, blah. FE made a pact /verbal agreement with the Guristas to help them drive PA/NBSI out at some later time. Then live goes on and FE/KAOS/.5. forces manage to clean the region of PA/NBSI members without any help, so there are basicly no targets left. Then two weeks ago, IRON/G showed strong force up in D7 and guess who the Guristas gonna attack then? This is THEIR region so they're gonna defend it and attack the invaders. Too bad for IRON/G. What would have happend if IRON/G wasn't in D7? Who knows... making P3EN 0.6 sec space without letting Celest know and having guristas police show up whenever Celest attacks someone there? Open up new complexes/training grounds? New stations, new technology, new hidden stuff, or whatever... but most likely this event went through because of the invasion OK, you can say we're living in their region and killing them by ratting, event staff said we were merely "training" the pilots and could rat as much as we liked ... P.S. or maybe the GMs were tired of hearing about LAG-issues in D7 so they decided to fix it themselves.
TIvian	Posted - 2006.03.23 06:15:00 - [79] Edited by: TIvian on 23/03/2006 06:19:35 First off. When the Guristas contacted a rep from FE and The 5 it was dicey to begin with. The rep said the right thing as it was a role play situation in a GAME EVENT. it could have gone either way. Remember folks its a ROLE PLAYING GAME even though pvpers tend to not role play but just shoot people. SO as stated before WHO KNOWS whats up with the Guristas....HELLO?? PIRATES??? THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT? Secondly. IF G or IRON guys lost ships in this event its because they choose to engage what they considered and enemy target....so there is your "Consent" to participate in the event. And as for fun for both sides? any one shooting NPC's for isk and loot is having fun right? so why should the Guristas not have some fun of there own? G and IRON have been in the north WAY longer then the 5 has. And FE has been there longer then both IRON G and the 5 combined. So from a Guristas point of view you could say they(Guristas) wanted to stick with the poison they Knew...rather then try a new poison. get what I am saying? You should have enjoyed defending your POS's and enjoyed fighting and killing the attacking forces. But, I guess your enjoying this event by coming on the forums and whinning about it. By the way...Serpentis is not going to help you as they have already stated last week in Syndicate that they are aligned with the 5 because we helped them get their brand new titan. I personally don't trust the Guristas in their motives...they have never been trust worthy or kept their word any time. You won't find us complaining on the forums when they double cross us. and mark my words...they will. here endith the lesson! Forever Curse Alliance (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you all!!
PSA1SWIPE	Posted - 2006.03.23 06:38:00 - [80] Originally by: Shinoobie Edited by: Shinoobie on 23/03/2006 01:04:44 Tonight, under iffy circumstances, the Guristas decided to align themselves with FE and the 5 and assisted in attacking a friendly POS to IRON. Not only that, but decided to stick around and safespot in player controlled POS's. Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? If this is now an active feature of the game I would like to call Salvador Saparti of the Serpentis corperation to come and help take on the Guristas. Regards, Look just be happy ccp is finally doing some really cool event more often its about time first the caldari tourmnet now this im glad they finally doing somthing with faction ect ect I like bunny wabbits
PSA1SWIPE	Posted - 2006.03.23 06:46:00 - [81] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: madhapee Edited by: madhapee on 23/03/2006 02:59:41 Screenie of gang of 330+ people this was by far the biggest gang I have ever been in :) FE/5/KAOS/BIO-C 4T f**king win! I don't think the guristas tipped the balance :) I got a ton more screenies, lag was actually quite good, only had to relog twice. izzat a muthaship? nah that croshibas chimera pretty isent it i put 3 coats of wax on for the fight I like bunny wabbits
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.23 07:46:00 - [82] funneh thing is with as much damage of pos killing and ship killing G/iron/rzr/friends have done to 5/FE/KOA/FRIENDS while they do very little but complain of lag even when they are engaged; I'm glad to see the devs change and help them a bit. Regardless if you say you had 350+ pilots, huge difference with 5+ capital ships helping you.The time it takes to get pilot on, your losses from warp ins etc.Makes huge ****im difference, and tbh i'm glad they helped 5/fs/koa.. cuzz could you even for sec imagine with the pwning they are getting day to day what type of whine posts they would of had if 5+ dreads came and took out their remaining pos's??... lol would be whining for years to come. So again, even if they maneed a 350 person fleet nice to see they needed actual dreads...and not posts about dreads on forums. As stated b4 I doubt you would see a post if gurista attacked a pos in even a home system of G/iron/rzr. The fact is 5/fe/K are getting the bad end of the stick simple as that. Lossing all your pos's. and only having a few left to hang on to sov. and now gurista comes and helps you along with everyone else... lol man would f-e n 5 be crying if this was the other way around..simple as that
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2006.03.23 07:52:00 - [83] Its a sad sad day. I had not realised that this sort of thing was happening in the past. For the events team to get involved on this scale is absoulty ridiculous. There are few enough members of 0.0 for this sort of behaviour from CCP. When G/Iron and BoB had an event after teh ryan routine fight, as far as i was aware all parties had been contacted by the event people so they KNEW what was coming and could prepeare for it. The FE fleet - in the thread claim they had the forces alone - what a tragedy that they should allow the guristas to particiapte and thus remove any right they can have to claim a success for themselves. G/IRON as far as i see are the only alliances that stand up to the other mega alliances who all seem to have naped each other. Where does the game go if any allaince that stands up for itself without GM assistance can be blown out of the sky at any moment by CCP??? You may take this as gripes, whines or whatever, i really dont care what you think my motives are as a populus. I tell you this, i started playing eve the day after it was retailed, to be part of this growing and evoloving environment was SO much fun. Although CCP nerfed some weps, cahnged the way some mods worked etc which sucked at the time it was all in the name of modular balancing and kept the game exciting. But the main attraction of the environemnt was simply that in this unreal world we live in we used to be able to determine our own success, our own path. Do u want to be a pirate, a trader, a 0.0er? what do u want to do? - do it, and if ur good at it the game allowed u to be successful. If this trully is the way eve has gone then ALL 0.0 allaince members should be aware that at ANYTIME the events team are bored, or 'have some mates' in the allaince that are being attacked they can spawn themselves a large captial ship fleet with no warning and change the entire politics of a region. I am SO pleased to be in FATE, we claim no space, we have nothing the events team can attack, we are just UBER pvp pilots, and no doubt all we have to do is move to an npc station in 0.0 and fly out and gank all the nublar alliance pilots we bump into, after all, we have no time wasted on POS management, we just kill!!! God help all u allaince members. U can give ur ALL to ur alliance, and have it taken away at a stroke by a third party that dont pay for their accounts, dont skill train (they all have max skills) - they have no need to create isk, they press a button and theres there ship. Good luck to you all, both my old friends and enemies. See you on the battlefield (without pos)
Lost Dragon	Posted - 2006.03.23 07:54:00 - [84] 5/F-E..... I know that you are not truely proud of this no matter what front you put on it. Firstly, yes it is true you currently held the upperhand on the battlefild, but this was due to time zones and you know it. Secondly sense you already ahd the advantage of timezones why was it necisary to accept storyline help with no apparent storyline or forwarning. And thrid if you ahd such superior numbers why not just kill the guristas and take the loot... And last but not least.. you need to take a moment to think on what exactly your fleet would do if we first outnumbered you and then just for some off hand reason got NPC saport... You would be on here doing the exact same thing, and i would also like to note that this is the largest NPC capitol fleet we have thus far seen... Besides that there is the fact that we have had "reporters" observing our fleet for the past several days. These "reporters" would surely know the time zones that we are mainly active and could therefore coordinate an offensive when we could at least retaliate in kind. Having invulnerable scouts is one way to get the upperhand i guess. Would it not have been a better method to announce Guristas interaction beforehand therefor giving both sides at least a chance to mount a decent fleet or offinsive?? Instead it seams the storyline moderators decided that only one side needed to be informed. Maybe next time put it in the bulotun boards or something saying when and where.. give both sides a chance to participate or else its jsut lame. I am not against the storyline guys coming in and putting their mark on Eve... this however needs to be done with some forwarning to all parties involved.. without that forewarning it seams a little underhanded at the very least.. and down right favoritism at the very most.. Please rethink your involvement, next time or you might verywell just send us all running off to be elfs and trolls in world of ****ers. Please edit your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 400 pixels in width - Jacques ([email protected])
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:02:00 - [85] Originally by: DANGEROUS Its a sad sad day. I had not realised that this sort of thing was happening in the past. For the events team to get involved on this scale is absoulty ridiculous. There are few enough members of 0.0 for this sort of behaviour from CCP. When G/Iron and BoB had an event after teh ryan routine fight, as far as i was aware all parties had been contacted by the event people so they KNEW what was coming and could prepeare for it. The FE fleet - in the thread claim they had the forces alone - what a tragedy that they should allow the guristas to particiapte and thus remove any right they can have to claim a success for themselves. G/IRON as far as i see are the only alliances that stand up to the other mega alliances who all seem to have naped each other. Where does the game go if any allaince that stands up for itself without GM assistance can be blown out of the sky at any moment by CCP??? You may take this as gripes, whines or whatever, i really dont care what you think my motives are as a populus. I tell you this, i started playing eve the day after it was retailed, to be part of this growing and evoloving environment was SO much fun. Although CCP nerfed some weps, cahnged the way some mods worked etc which sucked at the time it was all in the name of modular balancing and kept the game exciting. But the main attraction of the environemnt was simply that in this unreal world we live in we used to be able to determine our own success, our own path. Do u want to be a pirate, a trader, a 0.0er? what do u want to do? - do it, and if ur good at it the game allowed u to be successful. If this trully is the way eve has gone then ALL 0.0 allaince members should be aware that at ANYTIME the events team are bored, or 'have some mates' in the allaince that are being attacked they can spawn themselves a large captial ship fleet with no warning and change the entire politics of a region. I am SO pleased to be in FATE, we claim no space, we have nothing the events team can attack, we are just UBER pvp pilots, and no doubt all we have to do is move to an npc station in 0.0 and fly out and gank all the nublar alliance pilots we bump into, after all, we have no time wasted on POS management, we just kill!!! God help all u allaince members. U can give ur ALL to ur alliance, and have it taken away at a stroke by a third party that dont pay for their accounts, dont skill train (they all have max skills) - they have no need to create isk, they press a button and theres there ship. Good luck to you all, both my old friends and enemies. See you on the battlefield (without pos) Heres a suggestion.. before you start complaining, ask Lorth what happened to Supremacy in Teneriffis. That had no storyline justification at all. Where was all your "righteousness" then when that happened. Almost everyone was like haha its 5 they deserve it...
Invisible Touch	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:06:00 - [86] Originally by: Halseth Durn Edited by: Halseth Durn on 23/03/2006 04:00:40 I've got the Sanshas hauling for our mining ops now. As long as I role play in local chat, they think they are running an "event". Seriously, this is the "coming of the lord" for eve. Please dont F it up by complaining to the point where CCP says "screw-it, it's not worth the hassle". When faction standings become a real factor in game play come Kali, you are going to have to either adjust your game or play with the kids in empire. It's that simple. Life in Venal, Stain, Fountain, Curse, ect will change the most. Good standings with the regions owners will be a requisite for docking privs. You want to chain NPCs for a week? Then you better be willing to do missions for them for a week first. And that STILL wont keep you immune from the Devs saddling up as your regions hosts and playing "kick the can" with your ship for a while. If you have a hard time grasping these concepts, just think of CCP as some uber corporation with the ability to own your a$$ or fly with anyone that will have them whenever or whereever they want. What he said. Game changes FTW and NPC station huggers FTL. Ancient GODS division
Shittake	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:11:00 - [87] Edited by: **take on 23/03/2006 08:11:24 Originally by: DigitalCommunist 0.0 people shouldn't be complaining about event consentuality No offense DC, but I distinctly remember a considerable number of complaints by BoB members (includingd yourself) about some Serpentis showing up in Fountain not so long ago and killing a Dread I believe and a bunch of battleships? But that's not my point. It seems that even if the event team's Gurristas were NOT there, the POS was doomed anyways based on the gang size intending to remove it. I do not know why there are now 3 threads about this with IRON/G folks complaining about it. It's just a single POS and I'm betting that if it was offline it was due more to bad management by its operator than the event team.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:13:00 - [88] Originally by: ***take Edited by: ***take on 23/03/2006 08:11:24 Originally by: DigitalCommunist 0.0 people shouldn't be complaining about event consentuality No offense DC, but I distinctly remember a considerable number of complaints by BoB members (includingd yourself) about some Serpentis showing up in Fountain not so long ago and killing a Dread I believe and a bunch of battleships? But that's not my point. It seems that even if the event team's Gurristas were NOT there, the POS was doomed anyways based on the gang size intending to remove it. I do not know why there are now 3 threads about this with IRON/G folks complaining about it. It's just a single POS and I'm betting that if it was offline it was due more to bad management by its operator than the event team. Its not about a single POS, and the POS couldnt be offline due to bad management, cause you get a mail before, and we took lots of care about that POS. I think it was some spy within our allies.
djNME	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:14:00 - [89] well, If this case made by 5 n friends of "thats wf kali is gunna be, so don't ** it up etc" Well if thats the case my friends. I sure as the ** better see alot of interaction and npc's jumping into Player driven conflicts and changing the make up alot..... simple as that. there better be shyt happening everyday in dif. regoins and systems that effect the game play as much as 5+ cap ships do.... and there better be alot of it or this.. omg this is what kali will be like shyt is null and void to me. Simple fact is normal npx don't have the knowledge and skilsl to set thigns up unless a human programs them to be here or spawn here type of thing target this at most....So ccp better be hiring or have people playing npc factions to T if it gunna be shyt like this all day.
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:17:00 - [90] Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:18:00 - [91] Originally by: ***take Edited by: ***take on 23/03/2006 08:11:24 Originally by: DigitalCommunist 0.0 people shouldn't be complaining about event consentuality No offense DC, but I distinctly remember a considerable number of complaints by BoB members (includingd yourself) about some Serpentis showing up in Fountain not so long ago and killing a Dread I believe and a bunch of battleships? But that's not my point. It seems that even if the event team's Gurristas were NOT there, the POS was doomed anyways based on the gang size intending to remove it. I do not know why there are now 3 threads about this with IRON/G folks complaining about it. It's just a single POS and I'm betting that if it was offline it was due more to bad management by its operator than the event team. The reason WHY I COMPLAIN are those "ACCIDENTS" regarding the ISD involvement. Maybe their involvment wouldn't have mattered today - but who can assure us that it won't happen again under such circumstances ... if they can backup their acting with a well-though story it's more than ok ... if they attack outnumbered an enemy of their faction it's ok - the defenders get the fun AND the loot. But interferring in quite balanced conflicts is imho a no-no ... _________________________________________ Originally by: Skellibjalla Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit. Originally by: Tool - Hush I can't say what I want to,even if I'm not serious.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:18:00 - [92] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? Cause we own D7 at day and you own D7 at night
Shittake	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:21:00 - [93] Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte Originally by: ***take Edited by: ***take on 23/03/2006 08:11:24 Originally by: DigitalCommunist 0.0 people shouldn't be complaining about event consentuality No offense DC, but I distinctly remember a considerable number of complaints by BoB members (includingd yourself) about some Serpentis showing up in Fountain not so long ago and killing a Dread I believe and a bunch of battleships? But that's not my point. It seems that even if the event team's Gurristas were NOT there, the POS was doomed anyways based on the gang size intending to remove it. I do not know why there are now 3 threads about this with IRON/G folks complaining about it. It's just a single POS and I'm betting that if it was offline it was due more to bad management by its operator than the event team. The reason WHY I COMPLAIN are those "ACCIDENTS" regarding the ISD involvement. Maybe their involvment wouldn't have mattered today - but who can assure us that it won't happen again under such circumstances ... if they can backup their acting with a well-though story it's more than ok ... if they attack outnumbered an enemy of their faction it's ok - the defenders get the fun AND the loot. But interferring in quite balanced conflicts is imho a no-no ... But I don't remember all the outrage from the G/IRON folks when BoB had a "bad day" with the event team? How is this different?
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:23:00 - [94] Originally by: **take Originally by:** Ishquar Teh'Sainte Originally by: ***take Edited by: ***take on 23/03/2006 08:11:24 Originally by: DigitalCommunist 0.0 people shouldn't be complaining about event consentuality No offense DC, but I distinctly remember a considerable number of complaints by BoB members (includingd yourself) about some Serpentis showing up in Fountain not so long ago and killing a Dread I believe and a bunch of battleships? But that's not my point. It seems that even if the event team's Gurristas were NOT there, the POS was doomed anyways based on the gang size intending to remove it. I do not know why there are now 3 threads about this with IRON/G folks complaining about it. It's just a single POS and I'm betting that if it was offline it was due more to bad management by its operator than the event team. The reason WHY I COMPLAIN are those "ACCIDENTS" regarding the ISD involvement. Maybe their involvment wouldn't have mattered today - but who can assure us that it won't happen again under such circumstances ... if they can backup their acting with a well-though story it's more than ok ... if they attack outnumbered an enemy of their faction it's ok - the defenders get the fun AND the loot. But interferring in quite balanced conflicts is imho a no-no ... But I don't remember all the outrage from the G/IRON folks when BoB had a "bad day" with the event team? How is this different? Cause Im a ebil BoB/5 anti hateboy sucker and the rest of G doesnt post at all anyway. Also some people use right channels to express their grudge.
1naz	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:24:00 - [95] Why are NPCs interfering negatively with player controlled content in such a massive way? Cheese.
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:25:00 - [96] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? Cause we own D7 at day and you own D7 at night i logged in at 18-19 eve time and never did G/IRON own anything this day in d7 (from the point i logged on, doesnt mean it was because of me , just cant speak for earlier) we had our fleet during prime time sitting at the hw gate and never got contested, we reached the gang peak around 22.15 eve time with 330-340 ppl in gang. Operation ended around 3-4 eve time (dont quote me here dead tired) with 100 ppl in gang oh appearently the gangsystem went broke at 330-340 ppl as it kicked at that point 100+ ppl from gang also TS had reached it limits with 500ppl at some point i think oO Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:26:00 - [97] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? should have used different terms ... the guristas didn't changed the outcome of the BATTLE in a WAR which was quite well balanced BEFORE they entered the stage. afaik we had in the last days some nice battles - so why did the guristas intervene in this conflict? the following reasons for an involvement of the guristas(not from a rp side ... i think it's legitime, cause i couldn't find some rp backup to this event) a.) G/IRON/RZR were winning against F-E/.5 in d7-zac .. so they needed backup by the guristas b.) G/IRON/RZR and F-E/.5 were quite equal in the battles in d7-zac ... why do we need a involvement by a NPC-Faction?? let the skills of our FC decide .. so can someone explain it to me why they showed up?? c.) G/IRON/RZR were loosing against F-E/.5 ... could someone from ISD explain the bandwagon-warfare style?? so please tell me now ... have i forgotten something and/or missunderstood?? _________________________________________ Originally by: Skellibjalla Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit. Originally by: Tool - Hush I can't say what I want to,even if I'm not serious.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:27:00 - [98] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? Cause we own D7 at day and you own D7 at night i logged in at 18-19 eve time and never did G/IRON own anything this day in d7 (from the point i logged on, doesnt mean it was because of me , just cant speak for earlier) we had our fleet during prime time sitting at the hw gate and never got contested, we reached the gang peak around 22.15 eve time with 330-340 ppl in gang. Operation ended around 3-4 eve time (dont quote me here dead tired) with 100 ppl in gang oh appearently the gangsystem went broke at 330-340 ppl as it kicked at that point 100+ ppl from gang also TS had reached it limits with 500ppl at some point i think oO We killed off your POS at the afternoon , but such discussions are not point of this thread
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:29:00 - [99] Originally by: **take Originally by:** Ishquar Teh'Sainte But I don't remember all the outrage from the G/IRON folks when BoB had a "bad day" with the event team? How is this different? Don't know about this event ... must have been in my time before G ... i'd appreciate if you can give me a link to this event ... so not that i'm talking about things i don't know atm _________________________________________ Originally by: Skellibjalla Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit. Originally by: Tool - Hush I can't say what I want to,even if I'm not serious.
Wizzkidy	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:32:00 - [100] Originally by: 1naz Why are NPCs interfering negatively with player controlled content in such a massive way? Cheese. This is the point. I get you to all read this again and again and again. It's this kinda thing that really annoys me as the battle was balanced out. There is no need to bring in alot of NPC's to start messing with player driven content! This will make me leave the game if it carries on. _______________________________ Waa it still too big not by much tho
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:33:00 - [101] @ Ishquar there is a background story behind that, most ppl just dont know it, as i dont know the details myself i wont spread anything that might be false so i'll leave it at that for now Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:35:00 - [102] Originally by: Nafri We killed off your POS at the afternoon , but such discussions are not point of this thread probably because i wasnt online, then you dare! agreed agreed not point of this thread Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:35:00 - [103] Let's just see what the event team say about it, then carry on flaming one another. To be honest, ig a Guristas fleet had jumped in and started taking pot shots at the F-E/5/Kaos/etc fleet; we'd have seen exactly the same thread. So let's all be cool.
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:35:00 - [104] @ tiuwaz ... well .. if there's a background story for this event .. where can i find it?? should be posted somewhere ... can you at least tell me the name of the event?? i need something to feed eve-search.com _________________________________________ Originally by: Skellibjalla Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit. Originally by: Tool - Hush I can't say what I want to,even if I'm not serious.
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:35:00 - [105] First off, BOB whined or what ever you want to call it when it happened to them.I think even in the fact it did, was alot different than now erm kay.Bigger conflict tipping the scales(that conflict). How many pos you kill in d7- before DEV got involved?5,FE plz tell.Also i wonder the time it takes you to put out the fire power of them dreads, how many passes or pilots would of been activated and picked off alot mroe fo your uber fleet??Don't act like this had no impact plz...unless your part retarded I guess. Also as stated before, the pos started having problems as this was about to happen...oh imagine that.Pos has troubles, things going offline no mail etc. and it happent o be the time the dev team are coming to engage.... Alot of bull** is what I smell.I think overall it's ok, the battle was one; maybe one you can actualy with clear head say you won.Looking at the killboards and visiting clear to see who has been winning most engagements. Also 300 person fleet you talk/brag about, you manned this fleet after you constantly *** that 60 person fleets lag you guys out and thats why been getting the short end of most engagements?.. or was it everyone and their dog logged on to help dev's take down a POS?...seems that's what it was.. DEV team took down a pos today good work.... I wish both mroe fun and real fights in thic conflict, it more the npc(devs whatever) that erk me,and 5/fe jumping on the wagon saying "omg our fleet,though".... simple fact is you had 5+ cap ships that even if lost would cost you nothing and add the fire power of everything.So stop acting like YOU did anything. -.- ncie fleet though i guess =\
Netto	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:51:00 - [106] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Indeed i am and it does look like it. So far the only two factions who havent really mobilzed yet are Sansha and the Covenant. Though Sansha did serve as target practice for the Angel Cartel and ASCN iirc. That's correct. We've had I believe 2 incursions by Sansha forces, and we assaulted one Sansha POS. Only the latter did Angels actually lend any ships to the battle. Was actually a lot of fun, minus the crazy ass lag and inflated death count because of it. (Dreads not being able to go into siege ftl :( ) Netto Celestial Fleet - We care.
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:53:00 - [107] I'd be scared of a real angel cartel fleet... could you imagine a 80 BS angel cartel fleet with max skilled machariel pilots? ... yikess....
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:55:00 - [108] all issues aside atm i had fun in this event, and i have to praise the Guristas players for absolutely staying true to their role, they did some great roleplaying (mostly in gang chat, some in local) props to that oke got that off my chest, the lamenting can continue now Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 08:56:00 - [109] Originally by: SengH I'd be scared of a real angel cartel fleet... could you imagine a 80 BS angel cartel fleet with max skilled machariel pilots? ... yikess.... better get them on our side now Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
HordeZla	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:07:00 - [110] Originally by: Lost Dragon 5/F-E..... IBesides that there is the fact that we have had "reporters" observing our fleet for the past several days. These "reporters" would surely know the time zones that we are mainly active and could therefore coordinate an offensive when we could at least retaliate in kind. First of all....your time zone is not much difference then majority of us. Secondly....we had 170 pilots gang at 19:30 EVE time and numbers went higher and higher over time. With that allready you could assume something will happen (more like it atacking the POS). Or you thought we were just looking for gate/station fights as last few days? But, no...you didnt gather your fleet as high as you would like. It has nothing to do with Event at that time. When guristas came they came with 8-10 dreads. We used only few more i guess. (why bother to take others when we have 300+ gang so those several dreads should be more then enough). I heeard stories about 40 G/Iron dreads...where were they? Or you think guristas would bring extra more in that caise?. So....10 guristas dread at most made you start this whining threads? So think a bit before you post about global picture and not just "OH, mama mia....CCP are in favor to 5 / FE* ------------------------------------------------ With killing of G/Iron who need Sex?
Phonix	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:09:00 - [111] I dont care about the event. CCP just need to work on EVE, not thinking about events. The game is almost unplayable at the moment in large scale pvp. Yet they release capitals ships, so called fixes to the phoon (Nice fix btw). They promote the game for large scale warfare, yet its impossible. When you have to relog every 30 mins to clear the 100% CPU usage I think thats abit more important to fix than the ships. Open a new server using caster, ^^ so we can have large scale pvp without this 5 min module activation time.. Fate Website & Killboard CEO of Fate
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:12:00 - [112] Edited by: Tiuwaz on 23/03/2006 09:12:47 Originally by: Phonix I dont care about the event. CCP just need to work on EVE, not thinking about events. The game is almost unplayable at the moment in large scale pvp. Yet they release capitals ships, so called fixes to the phoon (Nice fix btw). They promote the game for large scale warfare, yet its impossible. When you have to relog every 30 mins to clear the 100% CPU usage I think thats abit more important to fix than the ships. Open a new server using caster, ^^ so we can have large scale pvp without this 5 min module activation time.. the lag as such was oke and the (reinforced) node was able to handle the amount off ppl nicely big problem is their memory leak (which i think you are speaking off), also the inital loading when you warp into a pos is rather bad, not sure why that is the case Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:18:00 - [113] Originally by: SengH I'd be scared of a real angel cartel fleet... could you imagine a 80 BS angel cartel fleet with max skilled machariel pilots? ... yikess.... thats why we napped them lol btw sanshas brought up a pos in our space during one of our events and we lost 2 dreads to it so I think everyone had their troubles with events at some point - Gob (my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p)
Yzman Shhan	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:19:00 - [114] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Q: What do you think happens when an alliance announces in their alliance channel that theyre gonna be escorting 6 Guristas dreadnaughts? A: Everybody and their mom gears up for combat, duh. Who doesnt want to escort 6 Guristas dreads? If not for the possible reward then for the total awesomeness of 6 guristas dreads. I had no clue that Guristas are joining in on the fun. This was planned before by people maybe in the know of the event, but I assure most of the people had NO idea that Guristas are taking part of the action. Besides I logged before the event, again :\| -- No sig ftw!
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:22:00 - [115] Originally by: Yzman Shhan Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Q: What do you think happens when an alliance announces in their alliance channel that theyre gonna be escorting 6 Guristas dreadnaughts? A: Everybody and their mom gears up for combat, duh. Who doesnt want to escort 6 Guristas dreads? If not for the possible reward then for the total awesomeness of 6 guristas dreads. I had no clue that Guristas are joining in on the fun. This was planned before by people maybe in the know of the event, but I assure most of the people had NO idea that Guristas are taking part of the action. Besides I logged before the event, again :\| So it was an event allmost no one on both sides knew??? Is it then allowed to call it an "event" (in the ISD/Aurora - storytelling - manner)?? /me thinks Aurora has now some serious problems with its credibility _________________________________________ Originally by: Skellibjalla Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit. Originally by: Tool - Hush I can't say what I want to,even if I'm not serious.
Xlover	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:22:00 - [116] ok, so 10 dreads now..so which is it? 350 man fleet,300 man fleet, 195 man fleet with few joining.. 3 dreads,5 dreads,up to but not limited to 10.. lol I agree with the fate guy tbh,Can't even fleet battle on a large scale yet they are spawning 10 dreads to take down a player pos..player isk envolved.Again you knew dev's envolved would over shadow anything you did,yet you let it happen.Expect feed back wether psotive or negative plenty of diverse peopel n corps posting tbh.Ten dreads ffs..I hope that the Gurista's enemy goes and helps g n friends own 2-3 of 5/FE pos's in that contested system.For 5/fe trying to help gurista get the space back..oh wait if they took down even 1-3 of your pos's in that system then you wouldn't have soverenty.. but thats not much, just a fleet of 10 dreads to make quick work of those pos's no matter what armies are scrambled.. imo big difference either way... Anyways many more battles to come and fun to be had CCP need to spend time working on game and reinforcing system that have bigger conflict, not just when they roll in for fun.. kinda funneh eh they reinforce the node when theya re around, but can't do it when they know 500+ pilots are through per day. teh X blood radier phinox's 4tpwnage
WildCard	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:37:00 - [117] Ok, FE/5 needs 500 ppl at TS and about 340 in the gang to stand vs 60 G/IRON and friends. Not enough they called for help from the Guristas team. Then they engaged in the middel of the night. Sure, we attacked em agin and again with our small group. At last of course, we aren't able to handel em, and they shoot 3 POS in the reinfored mode. Well all fine for me. Let em be proud about their big deadly high end fleet, we also should be proud members of G/IRON and friends. Guys we enganged with 60ppl a fleet of ~340! Perhaps BOB will also do such things. But FE/5? Never erver. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:42:00 - [118] Wildcard you really should stop posting when u start to look retarded. It seriously doesnt get better after that. So much missinformation and twist from a hostile ceo just cant be answered in any other way, sorry. I think i made every relevant post on the pages 1-3 so maybe just read up.
Phonix	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:46:00 - [119] Originally by: Kcel Chim Wildcard you really should stop posting when u start to look retarded. It seriously doesnt get better after that. So much missinformation and twist from a hostile ceo just cant be answered in any other way, sorry. I think i made every relevant post on the pages 1-3 so maybe just read up. Huh? Fate Website & Killboard CEO of Fate
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:47:00 - [120] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 23/03/2006 09:47:38 Originally by: WildCard Ok, FE/5 needs 500 ppl at TS and about 340 in the gang to stand vs 60 G/IRON and friends. Not enough they called for help from the Guristas team. Then they engaged in the middel of the night. Sure, we attacked em agin and again with our small group. At last of course, we aren't able to handel em, and they shoot 3 POS in the reinfored mode. Well all fine for me. Let em be proud about their big deadly high end fleet, we also should be proud members of G/IRON and friends. Guys we enganged with 60ppl a fleet of ~340! Perhaps BOB will also do such things. But FE/5? Never erver. @Phonix i was refering to this masterpiece of wit and humor offered by our great G competitors.
Yzman Shhan	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:47:00 - [121] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? Cause we own D7 at day and you own D7 at night C'mon, I was in D7 all day yesterday and I only saw your fleet once and even then it was warping out. You've had big fleets in D7, even bigger then us but yesterday even before the event we had over 115 battleships in our gang and you had a few dozen at most. And this was during the day. Tides shift, we recalled our npc'ers to fight and built a gang that didn't get any action before the event (and again, I logged even before I knew about any Guristas involvment). -- No sig ftw!
csebal	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:55:00 - [122] Originally by: HordeZla First of all....your time zone is not much difference then majority of us. Secondly....we had 170 pilots gang at 19:30 EVE time and numbers went higher and higher over time. With that allready you could assume something will happen (more like it atacking the POS). Or you thought we were just looking for gate/station fights as last few days? Thats a pity indeed, we were shooting down three damn large POSes, starting from about 23:00 EVE time up into the early morning of 3:30 EVE time. Thats 4.5 bloody hours to do something. Before that, we have gathered and gathered uncontested. We had cyno fields all over the place, moving in dreads.. Where were the G/IRON guys? Why havent you tried to engage / kill our dreads? I mean.. try!!! not just sending a shuttle out with a few fighter drones assigned to it, but actually bringing in the about 100 man strong fleet of yours to do something... The devs have reinforced the node to an extent, that i've not seen any server side lag greater than say 10-15 seconds the whole evening.. There was the BIG chance to have a proper fleet fight with hundreds of people against hundreds more enemies. Sorry to say, but i've expected more from you. That after such an evening of incompetence you try to make it look like as if the Guristas had anything to do with your inability / unwillingness to act.. that just ruined the little rep you had left i think. Quote: But, no...you didnt gather your fleet as high as you would like. It has nothing to do with Event at that time. When guristas came they came with 8-10 dreads. We used only few more i guess. (why bother to take others when we have 300+ gang so those several dreads should be more then enough). I heeard stories about 40 G/Iron dreads...where were they? Or you think guristas would bring extra more in that caise?. So....10 guristas dread at most made you start this whining threads? Actually, it was 8 Gurista phoenixes, with 6 FE dreads and 100-300 people backing them up depending on which point you look at in time. I really hope they leave D7 in reinforced state for the weeks to come, so that we can have battles like the one we had today without the lag monster deciding who wins. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.
Oriana Fallaci	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:57:00 - [123] The anger is completely understandable. Sure, the outcome would not have changed, but things would have slowed down more and G/Iron would have caused slightly more losses. Factional warfare is some roleplay junk that should be optional for some people willing to do PvE, but should absolutely play no role in 0.0. PvP. And to the guy claiming that the "event team" people are also players: they didnt work for the dreadnoughts and pimped up battleships. All they have and are was given to them for free by CCP, and as such they are not players but NPCs that should stay the hell out of fleet battles.
HordeZla	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:01:00 - [124] Edited by: HordeZla on 23/03/2006 10:01:52 Well, tbh, you should have Rommel type of leaders/FC in G/Iron....you dont....you'll die ------------------------------------------------ With killing of G/Iron who need Sex?
csebal	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:06:00 - [125] Originally by: Oriana Fallaci The anger is completely understandable. Sure, the outcome would not have changed, but things would have slowed down more and G/Iron would have caused slightly more losses. Factional warfare is some roleplay junk that should be optional for some people willing to do PvE, but should absolutely play no role in 0.0. PvP. And to the guy claiming that the "event team" people are also players: they didnt work for the dreadnoughts and pimped up battleships. All they have and are was given to them for free by CCP, and as such they are not players but NPCs that should stay the hell out of fleet battles. What you dont get is that we had all the dreads we needed to finish the job ourselves. After all, you do not plan an action like this based on CCP.. they have a rep to delay / cancel things ya know. :) The most pathetic point of these threads is that people make it look like as if the gurista dreads have meant anything. Yes, we had to risk less of our dreads in the action, but please.. we havent lost a single one anyway, so its not as if we would be sacrificing gurista dreads to save our own. In fact we lost several battleships to the POS while warping to the AFK/less competent/uncareful gurista dreads to warp out. So all in one, having them in our gang caused more losses overally, than if we would have gone with our own people, who are better at following orders... There was noone to kill them anyway. Their POSes got quite some lucky kills on BSes and support for sure, but those are expendable, and noone really cares. End of story, period. They've lost nothing serious as of now, some pride at most. The fun part comes today, when their POSes come out of reinforced mode. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.
Smith	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:17:00 - [126] I been away for a while and I have been missing eve like crazy and after reading this post today made me go buy a Justin Timerlakes album. I then enlarged and printed off G/Irons alliance logos off and posted them on the wall and layed back listening to "Cry me a River". It felt like playing EvE. Thanks for post this winey post. It make me so happy that so many are crying little rivers over this Event.
Bayroo	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:22:00 - [127] YAP YAP - Just stop your moaning, its agame. Just end what you started and move along.
Nifel	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:23:00 - [128] Originally by: Halseth Durn Edited by: Halseth Durn on 23/03/2006 04:00:40 I've got the Sanshas hauling for our mining ops now. As long as I role play in local chat, they think they are running an "event". Seriously, this is the "coming of the lord" for eve. Please dont F it up by complaining to the point where CCP says "screw-it, it's not worth the hassle". When faction standings become a real factor in game play come Kali, you are going to have to either adjust your game or play with the kids in empire. It's that simple. Life in Venal, Stain, Fountain, Curse, ect will change the most. Good standings with the regions owners will be a requisite for docking privs. You want to chain NPCs for a week? Then you better be willing to do missions for them for a week first. And that STILL wont keep you immune from the Devs saddling up as your regions hosts and playing "kick the can" with your ship for a while. If you have a hard time grasping these concepts, just think of CCP as some uber corporation with the ability to own your a$$ or fly with anyone that will have them whenever or whereever they want. If we get the ability to shoot the npc stations into uselessnes (or out of the way completely) so that you can't do anything with the services in them I'm all for that. "We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata
Mangus Thermopyle	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:29:00 - [129] So this is how the "mighty" G/IRON sounds like when they lose
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:41:00 - [130] ROFL - there are SO many noobs in this thread its SO funny!! why ddint G/IRON fight ur 300 man fleet? well cos most are euros and were IN BED ASLEEP. persoanlly i was REALLY looking forward to friday night as i expected the G/IRON/RZR/FATE dreads to be engaged with teh ATUK and FE dreads in a huge fleet battle. Will this fight still take place? probably not. why bother getting involved in an invasion to teach the weak a lesson when they can somehow MIRACOUSLY get assitnce from CCP. It trully is a joke. Moreover, as i stated previoulsy - if the FE fleet was trully so powerful, why did they not reject the offer of assistance? The different time zones of the forces engaged was a fact appreciated by the invading forces, exactly as it was in ASCN space. This is factored into any tacical planning. Clearly u must maximise the devestation you can cause when ur oppenent is weak. SHOULD FE been able to take the pos without help would their be any moaning? no there wouldnt. infact the opposite,, there would probably have been repsect to the defenders for taking all 3 pos down when we had only destroyed one FE pos. So i believe AGAIN most people should keep on topic, shinoobie started this thread asking for a statement from the guristas and asking for help from a faction alliance that hate the guristas - he did not flame and the question is still unaswered -
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:48:00 - [131] hey heres an idea lets move on and fight some more and like have fun. ----------------------------------------------- Done is done Yes, there will be no taking back Every journey must come to an end All hail to the Gunslinger Beyond our reach, out of control
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:56:00 - [132] The numbers yesterday in D7 from FE/5 Forces were really high. The 2 alliances showed a outstanding force. And the dam Guristas appearance was a nasty surprise alsow They won the day yesterday, but other days will come
csebal	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:03:00 - [133] Originally by: DANGEROUS ROFL - there are SO many noobs in this thread its SO funny!! why ddint G/IRON fight ur 300 man fleet? well cos most are euros and were IN BED ASLEEP. Thats the lousiest excuse i've ever heard. I'm euro TZ as well, hell even more EURO than most of you, as i live in CET, which is one hour ahead of france or the UK for example. So what.. i've been there all night during the OP, had about 4-5 hours of sleep before coming to work, and now i have a terrible headache, but it was definitely worth it. The OP started at about 20:00 eve time, which is very well inside the EURO TZ, so why dont you just cut making excuses and say that you / your friends were ) too lazy to come fighting at first. ) too scared to come when things started to look bad. Considering that with all these players we had little to no lag, i would say G/IRON missed THE chance to prove, that they can do more than snipe off emergency warping lagged out ships at gates. Quote: It trully is a joke. Moreover, as i stated previoulsy - if the FE fleet was trully so powerful, why did they not reject the offer of assistance? For the same reson we did not refuse to ally ourselves with our former enemies. We do not turn down assistance out of egoism, and do not turn allies away our of pride. Only the fool do that. Do you honestly expect us to turn down help we get offered 'just' to make us look better in your eyes? just FYI: the POSes were only put into reinforced mode. They are not dead yet, and i highly doubt - even though i hope - that we'll be able to kill all of them. They are simply too widely spread out throughout the day, and for example i (as many others) can be there when the first one comes out of reinforced mode, simply because we are at work... so that sux. Then again, what we did once, we can do again, given CCP keeps the node in reinforced mode. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.
Balazs Simon	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:07:00 - [134] Originally by: DANGEROUS ROFL - there are SO many noobs in this thread its SO funny!! why ddint G/IRON fight ur 300 man fleet? well cos most are euros and were IN BED ASLEEP. persoanlly i was REALLY looking forward to friday night as i expected the G/IRON/RZR/FATE dreads to be engaged with teh ATUK and FE dreads in a huge fleet battle. Will this fight still take place? probably not. why bother getting involved in an invasion to teach the weak a lesson when they can somehow MIRACOUSLY get assitnce from CCP. It trully is a joke. Moreover, as i stated previoulsy - if the FE fleet was trully so powerful, why did they not reject the offer of assistance? The different time zones of the forces engaged was a fact appreciated by the invading forces, exactly as it was in ASCN space. This is factored into any tacical planning. Clearly u must maximise the devestation you can cause when ur oppenent is weak. SHOULD FE been able to take the pos without help would their be any moaning? no there wouldnt. infact the opposite,, there would probably have been repsect to the defenders for taking all 3 pos down when we had only destroyed one FE pos. So i believe AGAIN most people should keep on topic, shinoobie started this thread asking for a statement from the guristas and asking for help from a faction alliance that hate the guristas - he did not flame and the question is still unaswered - LOL so many G/Iron here who don't know the CLOCK.. Hay bastard I'm EU as well, as most of F-E and .5 as well.. we started gathering around 18:00 EVE time, the actual POS shooting started 23:00 eve time .. for me the whole op ended 4:30 AM local time !!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I work 8 hour a day, could sleep only a few hour because the event. And BTW german ppl live aonly a few hunderd KM away from me. If I were able to participate, tehy had every cance as well... - POST WITH YOUR MAIN! This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. -
lazlow lang	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:08:00 - [135] Quick someone call in backup from Concord
nubos	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:14:00 - [136] Originally by: Balazs Simon Originally by: DANGEROUS ROFL - there are SO many noobs in this thread its SO funny!! why ddint G/IRON fight ur 300 man fleet? well cos most are euros and were IN BED ASLEEP. persoanlly i was REALLY looking forward to friday night as i expected the G/IRON/RZR/FATE dreads to be engaged with teh ATUK and FE dreads in a huge fleet battle. Will this fight still take place? probably not. why bother getting involved in an invasion to teach the weak a lesson when they can somehow MIRACOUSLY get assitnce from CCP. It trully is a joke. Moreover, as i stated previoulsy - if the FE fleet was trully so powerful, why did they not reject the offer of assistance? The different time zones of the forces engaged was a fact appreciated by the invading forces, exactly as it was in ASCN space. This is factored into any tacical planning. Clearly u must maximise the devestation you can cause when ur oppenent is weak. SHOULD FE been able to take the pos without help would their be any moaning? no there wouldnt. infact the opposite,, there would probably have been repsect to the defenders for taking all 3 pos down when we had only destroyed one FE pos. So i believe AGAIN most people should keep on topic, shinoobie started this thread asking for a statement from the guristas and asking for help from a faction alliance that hate the guristas - he did not flame and the question is still unaswered - LOL so many G/Iron here who don't know the CLOCK.. Hay bastard I'm EU as well, as most of F-E and .5 as well.. we started gathering around 18:00 EVE time, the actual POS shooting started 23:00 eve time .. for me the whole op ended 4:30 AM local time !!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I work 8 hour a day, could sleep only a few hour because the event. And BTW german ppl live aonly a few hunderd KM away from me. If I were able to participate, tehy had every cance as well... oops
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:18:00 - [137] Originally by: Balazs Simon Originally by: DANGEROUS ROFL - there are SO many noobs in this thread its SO funny!! why ddint G/IRON fight ur 300 man fleet? well cos most are euros and were IN BED ASLEEP. persoanlly i was REALLY looking forward to friday night as i expected the G/IRON/RZR/FATE dreads to be engaged with teh ATUK and FE dreads in a huge fleet battle. Will this fight still take place? probably not. why bother getting involved in an invasion to teach the weak a lesson when they can somehow MIRACOUSLY get assitnce from CCP. It trully is a joke. Moreover, as i stated previoulsy - if the FE fleet was trully so powerful, why did they not reject the offer of assistance? The different time zones of the forces engaged was a fact appreciated by the invading forces, exactly as it was in ASCN space. This is factored into any tacical planning. Clearly u must maximise the devestation you can cause when ur oppenent is weak. SHOULD FE been able to take the pos without help would their be any moaning? no there wouldnt. infact the opposite,, there would probably have been repsect to the defenders for taking all 3 pos down when we had only destroyed one FE pos. So i believe AGAIN most people should keep on topic, shinoobie started this thread asking for a statement from the guristas and asking for help from a faction alliance that hate the guristas - he did not flame and the question is still unaswered - LOL so many G/Iron here who don't know the CLOCK.. Hay bastard I'm EU as well, as most of F-E and .5 as well.. we started gathering around 18:00 EVE time, the actual POS shooting started 23:00 eve time .. for me the whole op ended 4:30 AM local time !!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I work 8 hour a day, could sleep only a few hour because the event. And BTW german ppl live aonly a few hunderd KM away from me. If I were able to participate, tehy had every cance as well... 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you ....
HordeZla	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:23:00 - [138] Originally by: DeadDuck 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you .... Exactly So ask yourfriends to whine less ------------------------------------------------ With killing of G/Iron who need Sex?
Jennie Marlboro	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:26:00 - [139] Originally by: Oriana Fallaci The anger is completely understandable. Sure, the outcome would not have changed, but things would have slowed down more and G/Iron would have caused slightly more losses. Nonsense. G/IRON didn't engage us before the Guristas arrived. Our fleet gathered for hours without opposition. You can argue that they'd have been foolhardy to take on over 300 enemy pilots, sure, but the fact remains that the G/IRON commanders decided not to fight before the event team took the field. You can't cause more losses if you won't engage. The revolution will not be televised. It will, however, be available on pay-per-view.
csebal	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:26:00 - [140] Originally by: DeadDuck 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you .... Complaining, about numbers, during the evening? It looks like that is ok, despite your obvious unwillingness to commit yourself to a task. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:29:00 - [141] Originally by: csebal Originally by: DeadDuck 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you .... Complaining, about numbers, during the evening? It looks like that is ok, despite your obvious unwillingness to commit yourself to a task. Sorry, but our natinal soccer team had a game vs USA yesterday evening . Beer > Soccer > Eve
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:45:00 - [142] Originally by: Yzman Shhan Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? Cause we own D7 at day and you own D7 at night C'mon, I was in D7 all day yesterday and I only saw your fleet once and even then it was warping out. You've had big fleets in D7, even bigger then us but yesterday even before the event we had over 115 battleships in our gang and you had a few dozen at most. And this was during the day. Tides shift, we recalled our npc'ers to fight and built a gang that didn't get any action before the event (and again, I logged even before I knew about any Guristas involvment). Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections.
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:48:00 - [143] Very odd timing I must say & event team should have known Gs pos was bugged so even more dodgy. I not to shure but I think F-E only had 2 dreads witch wasnt gunno do nothing to anyones pos wile guratis had around 6 ? anyone confirm that ?. If so thats pretty lame feilding more than the home allaince can, hehe. HAHA no its was 8 Guratis dreads & 2 F-E heres a screenie Note G is guratis not G even more confution. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
asdaasddfssd	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:54:00 - [144] IS NO'T THE GAME FUNNY LIKE HELL!!! and more funny is the time wen this event comes right in time to save F-E ass. MORE and MORE funny !!!! Buth if i remember wen PA/F-E/NBSI was friendly they kill a gang of Guristas wen they enter in obe and near sistems to kill a F-E " POS ".... So wtf in the past Guristas was killed by F-E and now is friendly ..... seems the same story like """ F-E & [5] NAP and friendly stentings after 1 week F-E = msg to EVE is """ IARRR im sleeping in bead will all of you """
Mather Maelstrom	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:55:00 - [145] Last I heard now that FE and .5. are siding with the guristas the Caldari State is closing their borders to them and settting them to KOS, aiding the enemies of the state is a dangerous buisness This would be a logical consequence, imo no alliance should get an endless amount NPC spawns to aid them without consequences. //No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\
Shaydin	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:58:00 - [146] Well ..... slept at 5 AM, had massive fun, servers had little lag, EVE was playable with such a large number ..... a promise to some some great events in the future ... Great work and great dedication to the people who stayed up late put the effort and gave it their best .... Just try to enjoy a great game!!
Balazs Simon	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:02:00 - [147] Edited by: Balazs Simon on 23/03/2006 12:02:48 Originally by: Mather Maelstrom Last I heard now that FE and .5. are siding with the guristas the Caldari State is closing their borders to them and settting them to KOS, aiding the enemies of the state is a dangerous buisness This would be a logical consequence, imo no alliance should get an endless amount NPC spawns to aid them without consequences. Yeh, the mighty Caldari state and concord, who ignore gate rats I'm so scared... - POST WITH YOUR MAIN! This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. -
madhapee	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:04:00 - [148] Edited by: madhapee on 23/03/2006 12:04:39 Sinb, we had more than 2, 5 or so as you can see in another screenie. I do think the firepower of the fleet was greater as if not equal then the entire dreadnaught fleet. But all in all it was cool to see the guristas dreads. just as a note, one of the guristas dread got stuck and we had to warp our fleet in range of the POS guns to get it out. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:09:00 - [149] Originally by: WildCard Ok, FE/5 needs 500 ppl at TS and about 340 in the gang to stand vs 60 G/IRON and friends. Not enough they called for help from the Guristas team. Then they engaged in the middel of the night. Sure, we attacked em agin and again with our small group. At last of course, we aren't able to handel em, and they shoot 3 POS in the reinfored mode. Well all fine for me. Let em be proud about their big deadly high end fleet, we also should be proud members of G/IRON and friends. Guys we enganged with 60ppl a fleet of ~340! Perhaps BOB will also do such things. But FE/5? Never erver. wow
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:11:00 - [150] I have to say Kalened you are one bitter little boy
Lion El'Jonson	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:21:00 - [151] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: csebal Originally by: DeadDuck 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you .... Complaining, about numbers, during the evening? It looks like that is ok, despite your obvious unwillingness to commit yourself to a task. Sorry, but our natinal soccer team had a game vs USA yesterday evening . Beer > Soccer > Eve omg ... we are doomed ... the soccer worldchampionship is comin am i scary?
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:31:00 - [152] Originally by: csebal Originally by: DeadDuck 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you .... Complaining, about numbers, during the evening? It looks like that is ok, despite your obvious unwillingness to commit yourself to a task. Have you heard me complain about numbers ??? I already posted that your operation was very well organized and the strenght that FE/5 showed was awesome, speaking for my self it was a surprise... I stayed there connected during 4 hours watching your numbers rising and ours fallen ... then I went to bed ... Regarding the lack of commitment, this war is gonna be a long one, fights will occur on a daily basis, commitment will be seen on the long run, not in one day, and in the end it will decide who the winner is ... Dont know how many from FE/5/RAZOR/G/IRON/FATE ... Guristas ... are gonna be in the region tonight, one thing I know, I will be there, and if the order from fleet commanders to engage will arrive, I will engage no matter what our ods are
Gareth Angel	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:43:00 - [153] Originally by: Kalened Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. \o/ Here we go again! Come on, G/IRON, you can't possibly be proud of (im)posters like this...
Yzman Shhan	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:47:00 - [154] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: csebal Originally by: DeadDuck 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you .... Complaining, about numbers, during the evening? It looks like that is ok, despite your obvious unwillingness to commit yourself to a task. Have you heard me complain about numbers ??? I already posted that your operation was very well organized and the strenght that FE/5 showed was awesome, speaking for my self it was a surprise... I stayed there connected during 4 hours watching your numbers rising and ours fallen ... then I went to bed ... Regarding the lack of commitment, this war is gonna be a long one, fights will occur on a daily basis, commitment will be seen on the long run, not in one day, and in the end it will decide who the winner is ... Dont know how many from FE/5/RAZOR/G/IRON/FATE ... Guristas ... are gonna be in the region tonight, one thing I know, I will be there, and if the order from fleet commanders to engage will arrive, I will engage no matter what our ods are I don't think the comments were directed at you, tbh you're one of the few ppl in this thread who take the event as I think it should be taken. It didn't change the outcome IMO, but provided some extra spice to a boring day camping a system with little hostile movement. And again, if ppl knew about the event it was kept under wraps very well, I doubt that none of the average grunts knew about the event much before the guristas came. We had a fleet of +200 members hours earlier without the knowledge guristas are coming to the system. -- No sig ftw!
Yuzier OA	Posted - 2006.03.23 13:09:00 - [155] Originally by: Kalened Originally by: Yzman Shhan Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte so my conclusio: 1. the guristas didn't change the outcome (hence ... even if they were on our side ... it wouldn't have mattered) agreed Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte 3. why the hell is the event-team interferring in conflicts which were balanced? if it didnt effect the outcome in any way, how can it influence the balance? Cause we own D7 at day and you own D7 at night C'mon, I was in D7 all day yesterday and I only saw your fleet once and even then it was warping out. You've had big fleets in D7, even bigger then us but yesterday even before the event we had over 115 battleships in our gang and you had a few dozen at most. And this was during the day. Tides shift, we recalled our npc'ers to fight and built a gang that didn't get any action before the event (and again, I logged even before I knew about any Guristas involvment). Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. Why The leaders of your alliance, allow you to keep posting that nonse is beyond my belief.....G has allways been respected, but lately iron just makes a fool of themselves with this kind of accusations and crap....If you know something we dont, please put forth some evidence or be silent, this way your just looking like a Noob, whining all over. G keep putting up the real fight, you guys are a worthy enemy, but please silence your IRON counterpart
Quillan Rage	Posted - 2006.03.23 13:45:00 - [156] Originally by: csebal Where were the G/IRON guys? Why havent you tried to engage / kill our dreads? I mean.. try!!! not just sending a shuttle out with a few fighter drones assigned to it, but actually bringing in the about 100 man strong fleet of yours to do something... The devs have reinforced the node to an extent, that i've not seen any server side lag greater than say 10-15 seconds the whole evening.. There was the BIG chance to have a proper fleet fight with hundreds of people against hundreds more enemies. Sorry to say, but i've expected more from you. That after such an evening of incompetence you try to make it look like as if the Guristas had anything to do with your inability / unwillingness to act.. that just ruined the little rep you had left i think. I wasn't there, so am not going to comment on the fight but do just want to point out something that a lot of people, yourself included, seem to miss! Imho, one of the great qualities of a good Fleet Commander is his ability to gauge the situation and make a decision on the viability of engaging in combat. Even if we had a 100 man fleet, it would not really make a huge deal of sense to jump into a 300 man fleet, as this would be suicidal move, resulting in the loss of a huge number of ships. A better tact would surely be to wait until you have either a tactical advantage or more even numbers. Losing a great number of ships jumping in when hugely outnumbered goes nothing to show how brave you are, or how l33t an alliance you are, but instead lowers morale and more importantly takes bodies off an active battle field as they go to pick up and equip new BS in empire. I for one would not follow a commander who continually took the decision to fight against highly stacked uneven odds, culminating in me ending up in a cloning station minus ship, with the task of then paying for and refitting a new ship. If you respect foolishness, and bad decision making then that is your perogative but I think any fleet commander worth their salt (including your own) would not have engaged whilst outnumbered 3:1 with numbers going down due to it's mainly European contingent.
Shyalud	Posted - 2006.03.23 13:49:00 - [157] Originally by: Balazs Simon Edited by: Balazs Simon on 23/03/2006 12:02:48 Originally by: Mather Maelstrom Last I heard now that FE and .5. are siding with the guristas the Caldari State is closing their borders to them and settting them to KOS, aiding the enemies of the state is a dangerous buisness This would be a logical consequence, imo no alliance should get an endless amount NPC spawns to aid them without consequences. The Caldari State is of no consequence to FE/5 and the Guristas. They have no choice but to allow us entry to their space. Shyalud, CHSN High Council
Carth Jared	Posted - 2006.03.23 13:59:00 - [158] Originally by: Kalened Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. Congratulations on making yourself, your corporation and your alliance look utterly ridiculous everytime you post.
Raaki	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:03:00 - [159] Whoooohooo F-E/5 VS G/Iron/Rzr Smack fest ! Finaly. /me wonders when the Guiristas will join the flamefest
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:09:00 - [160] Originally by: ZedLey I have to say Kalened you are one bitter little boy Bitter but chocolatey
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:10:00 - [161] Originally by: Carth Jared Originally by: Kalened Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. Congratulations on making yourself, your corporation and your alliance look utterly ridiculous everytime you post. Thank you.. 5 keeps trying to recruit me but i insist on equal distribution of stupidity.
Shyalud	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:14:00 - [162] Originally by: Kalened Originally by: Carth Jared Originally by: Kalened Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. Congratulations on making yourself, your corporation and your alliance look utterly ridiculous everytime you post. Thank you.. 5 keeps trying to recruit me but i insist on equal distribution of stupidity. Did you just call yourself stupid? Shyalud, CHSN High Council
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:32:00 - [163] Edited by: Kalened on 23/03/2006 14:33:19 Originally by: Shyalud Originally by: Kalened Originally by: Carth Jared Originally by: Kalened Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. Congratulations on making yourself, your corporation and your alliance look utterly ridiculous everytime you post. Thank you.. 5 keeps trying to recruit me but i insist on equal distribution of stupidity. Did you just call yourself stupid? Yes.. i do have a sense of humor.. maybe you should try to find yours LOL They say to understand your enemy you should think like them.. so i think stupid. I wish FE and 5 had a cumulative IQ higher than 73 but at least you can legaly attend kindergarten.. as a group.
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:42:00 - [164] Edited by: ZedLey on 23/03/2006 14:43:44 Kalened you have some serious issues, and you keep making you and your alliance look worse everytime you post
Zagum Darkfin	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:46:00 - [165] This is one funny thread. Please keep posting GIRON, those salty tears taste good. I end with a thought: let your own actions speak about your character, not your words.
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:47:00 - [166] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin I end with a thought: let your own actions speak about your character, not your words. Did a member of the five just make a comment about smacking on the forums? holy f*ck i think i might die laughing. heres 5 isk.. buy a clue.
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:48:00 - [167] Originally by: ZedLey Edited by: ZedLey on 23/03/2006 14:43:44 Kalened you have some serious issues, and you keep making you and your alliance look worse everytime you post Well since your in the 5 i guess that means your free to look as stupid as you please.. no way you can make your alliance look any worse.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:55:00 - [168] Dissapointing to see G pilots and Iron pilots insinuating aurora favouritism here. I'd assume they'd know better. Power to the players !
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:59:00 - [169] Edited by: fire 59 on 23/03/2006 15:01:35 OOP's , double post Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:01:00 - [170] It's very funny hearing about gm's in bak pocket's, the whining is strong in this thread. It's nothing new at all to have npc baddie's involved in battles, and as for the dodgy pos stuff, i seem to remember iron and g etc gettin there pos put into god mode in AZN when ascn were pounding it, pot calling kettle black maybe? Don't whine just because something didn't go your way, it's a game, get over it and stop with the whole 'the hills have eye's malarky'. Iron, G fanboi's etc, you guys are really funny, you'd think that you expected everyone to run in terror from you or something, it will be a long battle and i know who id put my money on to be standing amongst the dead and dying at the end. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Wizie	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:03:00 - [171] Originally by: WildCard Ok, FE/5 needs 500 ppl at TS and about 340 in the gang to stand vs 60 G/IRON and friends. Not enough they called for help from the Guristas team. Then they engaged in the middel of the night. Sure, we attacked em agin and again with our small group. At last of course, we aren't able to handel em, and they shoot 3 POS in the reinfored mode. Well all fine for me. Let em be proud about their big deadly high end fleet, we also should be proud members of G/IRON and friends. Guys we enganged with 60ppl a fleet of ~340! Perhaps BOB will also do such things. But FE/5? Never erver. Stop crying already....
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:05:00 - [172] Originally by: fire 59 It's very funny hearing about gm's in bak pocket's, the whining is strong in this thread. It's nothing new at all to have npc baddie's involved in battles, and as for the dodgy pos stuff, i seem to remember iron and g etc gettin there pos put into god mode in AZN when ascn were pounding it, pot calling kettle black maybe? Don't whine just because something didn't go your way, it's a game, get over it and stop with the whole 'the hills have eye's malarky'. Iron, G fanboi's etc, you guys are really funny, you'd think that you expected everyone to run in terror from you or something, it will be a long battle and i know who id put my money on to be standing amongst the dead and dying at the end. OMG Fire 59 double posted. This individual is clearly a GM. RUN EVERYONE RUN... This thread has reached teh heights of both Paranoia and Hypocricy. Well done GIRON. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Wizie	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:11:00 - [173] Definitely worth mentioning however.... If Guristas had brough that many dreads to help G, would have seen the same posts that 5/FE are doing from G and whining from 5/FE. It is important to note that Guristas support for G would have changed the outcome of the fight, this event did not. So all in all, I think people are making too much out of it and are just whining because they were on the losing end... which they would have been either way.
Kantar	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:22:00 - [174] Originally by: DANGEROUS ROFL - there are SO many noobs in this thread its SO funny!! why ddint G/IRON fight ur 300 man fleet? well cos most are euros and were IN BED ASLEEP. - Was 9/10 pm EVE time m8 not 5 am in the morning.... next time pls tell us what time we should engage so we can work around you.........
Naphtalia	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:30:00 - [175] Originally by: Kalened Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. Ah that explains why I got my ships I lost yesterday reimbursed. I heard about 15 BS that were reimbursed for FE/5 for last nights event because the POS killed us while lagged. I had given up on it, but script encouraged me to ask for reimbursement.
Wizie	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:36:00 - [176] Originally by: Naphtalia Originally by: Kalened Yep tides shift.. in your case the gm's helped you shift that tide. Be proud you have gm's in your back pocket. It isnt a secret about 5's gm connections. Ah that explains why I got my ships I lost yesterday reimbursed. I heard about 15 BS that were reimbursed for FE/5 for last nights event because the POS killed us while lagged. I had given up on it, but script encouraged me to ask for reimbursement. You know he's gonna take that at face value and believe it 100%.. fueling more of his rants on the forums.
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:36:00 - [177] Originally by: Nafri Cause Im a ebil BoB/5 anti hateboy sucker and the rest of G doesnt post at all anyway. Also some people use right channels to express their grudge. I still <3 u nafri --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
magickangaroo	Posted - 2006.03.23 15:42:00 - [178] Originally by: Shinoobie Since when has NPC corperations taken an active role in helping defend regions, in neighboring conflicts? If this is now an active feature of the game I would like to call Salvador Saparti of the Serpentis corperation to come and help take on the Guristas. Regards, old news for us bobits mate sugest you just enjoy the nice loot. (GAL11) Brigadier General yay
Maule	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:34:00 - [179] Its beyond me how the iron leadership even tollerates Kalened to say stuff like 5 clearly have the gm¦s in their pocket. fyi being a gm is a job, not a hobby you do when off from your rl work or school..
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:35:00 - [180] Originally by: Krimsonblade Funny G/Iron are wasting so much time and resources fighting a unwinnable battle with F-E when your about to have hells fury tearing down your back door. What - The MGRL are going to Fade?!? ____________________________________________
maria stallion	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:36:00 - [181] I think G and Iron thoughed they could walk over F-E in a couple of days since we are fighting for so long allready and now G/iron/razor/celest/fate/trust and all the others you brought up to try and kill us seeing them selves being outnumbers 3 to 1. Guristas helped us out now since G and Iron are a thread to tribute, I think we are gratefull that guristas assisted us, but seeing the numbers we are bringing up it didn't matter much.
Nira Li	Posted - 2006.03.23 16:40:00 - [182] stop whining, we are all going to drown in all these tears You Will Cry My Name
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:07:00 - [183] Originally by: Zzazzt Originally by: Krimsonblade Funny G/Iron are wasting so much time and resources fighting a unwinnable battle with F-E when your about to have hells fury tearing down your back door. What - The MGRL are going to Fade?!? nice one
Krychton	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:09:00 - [184] I don't see what the big deal is, you're angry because 10 Gruistas helped a 340+ pilot fleet? Get over yourselves. With or without the Gruistas there, the outcome would have been the same. ---- You need Kaos in your soul to give birth to a rising star
Gabriel BriGGs	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:16:00 - [185] So did the event team purchase these dreadnaughts off of a corporation? Or did they mine all the fuel and material in H-PA and get ahold of the component bp's to build the dread parts? I would assume so, since every other allince in this conflict had to spend real life time to gather all these resources and move this stuff out.. Or did it just all magicaly appear via the "free dreads" button on the even teams UI? :D I have no problem with events happening out here, it just seems odd that while IRON/G were allready ridiculously out numbered, and .5./FE had enough dreads and ships to do all the work themselves, that they'd all of a sudden get some support when they really didnt need it. If it was 10 rattlesnakes or something then I don't think you would have heard as much complaining.. but dreads attacking a POS.. i dont know.. thats a bit.. stepping over the line I think.. oh well.. we'll see what happens next i guess Hey, how come those serpentis forces in that Ryan Routine event didnt jump out of serp prime to where the IRON and G fleets were and assist us with attemping to fight BoB?! --------------------------------------------
HeKnewTooMuch	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:17:00 - [186] Well, it is well known fact that big sums of real money are involved in EVE, so appearance of favoritism and corruption amongst those who have "advanced facilities" in the game is (or maybe already was) just a matter of time. I wonder if these "Guristas pirates" not only "helping" FE/5 in battles but also supply them with their expensive mods... It would be very logical step in that event - like, аren't they allies now?
Milkminer	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:21:00 - [187] I had another think about the situation and understand why some people are annoyed... 0.0 is a haven away from empire gameplay, different pace of life, different way of doing things etc. Its a life thats not restricted/dictated (for the mostpart) by NPC's, its a way of playing this game and affecting the way u play directly, as well as changing the game for everyone else (specially if people band together, just see ASCN outpost farm for proof). To this end, I can now see that some people get annoyed when their 0.0 gameplay is changed/ruined (depending on their opinion) by a fation that has nothing to do with 0.0 life for many. And these people who feel that the "event team" are just running events for the fun of it, which is true to a large extent (as its volenteering after all, though im pritty sure some perks are in there, otherwise why would these people pay to work, being nice isnt acceptable). I would like to see some sort of visable storyline to go along with these events, rather than them suddenly happening without any sort of "We will get you" sort of thing a month before (to give it the suprise factor still). IMO though 0.0 is that, safe from NPC's its aplayer world out there!
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:27:00 - [188] Maria STFU and get a clue or don't post. K thx WW
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:31:00 - [189] Originally by: Well wicked Maria STFU and get a clue or don't post. K thx WW take your own advice, asshat. ____________________________________________
Krychton	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:33:00 - [190] I see this thread being locked soon. ---- "No army is big enough to conquer the galaxy. But faith alone can overturn the universe."
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:38:00 - [191] Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte /me thinks Aurora has now some serious problems with its credibility I'm sure they're crushed by your lack of faith. ____________________________________________
pacifica	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:41:00 - [192] It just Funny that the Guistar start to help FE I remember when .5. was having a POS in H-PA the events ppl didn t try to help bringing 9 dread So calling that strange or something else that Now the events PPL help FE and did that after a BUG or a Mistake on a POS is just funny. If it how the game will go then I wish to be a Event player have free ship and skill and blows ppl stuff as a Event Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:42:00 - [193] The irony of this thread is hillarious. "Yay ISD roleplaying Serps are off to gank the ebil BoBBits, wooohoo, ISD rule, Serpentis are my new bestest friends, let's go help them gangbang the ebil ones, muahahaha" "OMG 5 ***** cheating m0f0's are all GM's and are abusing us with their Guristas buddies from ISD.... waaaaaaggghhhhhh" LOL @ IRON in particular. Priceless. Eve Blacklight Style
Agent Kenshin	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:42:00 - [194] Edited by: Agent Kenshin on 23/03/2006 17:42:58 One thing i dont understand is the ideas i think i get coming from people that its ok for the NPC factions to interact with each other but not interact with the player alliances.. Do the players and the NPCs exist in the same universe or am i just going crazy in thinking that they do??? The one real thing that gets me is that the interaction between the NPCs and the players is the only real thing lacking when it comes to content in the game. Sure Kali is gonna fix all that but an NPC ship is very predictable while as the Aurora actors arent and can bring more depth to combat. They can make mistakes and follies just like everyone else. Would be great to see the major officers of the factions being RPed by Aurora actors once kali hits. Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers' ehehehh....
TickTackTuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:44:00 - [195] Originally by: maria stallion I think G and Iron thoughed they could walk over F-E in a couple of days since we are fighting for so long allready and now G/iron/razor/celest/fate/trust and all the others you brought up to try and kill us seeing them selves being outnumbers 3 to 1. Guristas helped us out now since G and Iron are a thread to tribute, I think we are gratefull that guristas assisted us, but seeing the numbers we are bringing up it didn't matter much. since when does trust fight for them? Also funny that u list alliances which are smaller than some f-e corps just to make G/Iron and co look bigger while they are clearly outnumbered and u still rarely manage to show up with ur numbers (as if its an achivement to have 1/10 of its members online => F-E/5 etc. got over 3500 members so 350 ppl fleets should be the normal thing and nothing special, G got only 600 members and has every day at least 60-70 ppl in D7). And btw u should stop to make it look like F-E is the deciding factor in this war. G even without Iron would have walked over you easily without the assistance of .5. (and others like KAOS, Bio etc.).
Gozer	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:44:00 - [196] i would like more posts from Kalend please.. he really has made my day.. gj iron for letting him post freely.
Krychton	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:46:00 - [197] Originally by: Blacklight The irony of this thread is hillarious. "Yay ISD roleplaying Serps are off to gank the ebil BoBBits, wooohoo, ISD rule, Serpentis are my new bestest friends, let's go help them gangbang the ebil ones, muahahaha" "OMG 5 ***** cheating m0f0's are all GM's and are abusing us with their Guristas buddies from ISD.... waaaaaaggghhhhhh" LOL @ IRON in particular. Priceless. Yeah I know what you mean. If Gruistas had helped them instead they wouldn't be singing that tune. Gruistas being there is irrelevant. They even said it themselves that they where outnumbered, the outcome would have been the same. ---- "No army is big enough to conquer the galaxy. But faith alone can overturn the universe."
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:49:00 - [198] Originally by: Blacklight The irony of this thread is hillarious. "Yay ISD roleplaying Serps are off to gank the ebil BoBBits, wooohoo, ISD rule, Serpentis are my new bestest friends, let's go help them gangbang the ebil ones, muahahaha" "OMG 5 ***** cheating m0f0's are all GM's and are abusing us with their Guristas buddies from ISD.... waaaaaaggghhhhhh" LOL @ IRON in particular. Priceless. IRON seems such an inapropriate name. ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
TickTackTuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:49:00 - [199] Originally by: Blacklight The irony of this thread is hillarious. "Yay ISD roleplaying Serps are off to gank the ebil BoBBits, wooohoo, ISD rule, Serpentis are my new bestest friends, let's go help them gangbang the ebil ones, muahahaha" can u plz show to the ppl when G/Iron just once were involved in a POS attack on one of your systems with NPC help? Maybe u are really not that bright and dont get the major difference. Not to mention that there were also heavy complaints and "whine" threads from BoB when it happened to you. So are you saying that two wrongs make one right?
TickTackTuck	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:50:00 - [200] Originally by: Krychton Originally by: Blacklight The irony of this thread is hillarious. "Yay ISD roleplaying Serps are off to gank the ebil BoBBits, wooohoo, ISD rule, Serpentis are my new bestest friends, let's go help them gangbang the ebil ones, muahahaha" "OMG 5 ***** cheating m0f0's are all GM's and are abusing us with their Guristas buddies from ISD.... waaaaaaggghhhhhh" LOL @ IRON in particular. Priceless. Yeah I know what you mean. If Gruistas had helped them instead they wouldn't be singing that tune. Gruistas being there is irrelevant. They even said it themselves that they where outnumbered, the outcome would have been the same. reminds me of cheaters in online games saying "the cheat didnt matter i would have won anyways".
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:52:00 - [201] Originally by: ***take Edited by: ***take on 23/03/2006 08:11:24 Originally by: DigitalCommunist 0.0 people shouldn't be complaining about event consentuality No offense DC, but I distinctly remember a considerable number of complaints by BoB members (includingd yourself) about some Serpentis showing up in Fountain not so long ago and killing a Dread I believe and a bunch of battleships? But that's not my point. Uhm, the thread which started it was complaining about the timing. A week or two before the server upgrades they send a massive fleet. BoB lost 12 battleships jumping into a gang one third the size. If BoB didn't want to participate, it wouldn't have. IRON/G are not talking about lag, they don't want the Gurista to be there. Considering the Gurista presence had very little to do with the final outcome of their POS, I'd say they were just fumbling for excuses as to why they suck. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Agent Kenshin	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:53:00 - [202] Originally by: TickTackTuck Originally by: Blacklight The irony of this thread is hillarious. "Yay ISD roleplaying Serps are off to gank the ebil BoBBits, wooohoo, ISD rule, Serpentis are my new bestest friends, let's go help them gangbang the ebil ones, muahahaha" can u plz show to the ppl when G/Iron just once were involved in a POS attack on one of your systems with NPC help? Maybe u are really not that bright and dont get the major difference. Not to mention that there were also heavy complaints and "whine" threads from BoB when it happened to you. So are you saying that two wrongs make one right? IIRC those threads were because the ISD brought in mothership, carriers, and dreads without the use of a Cyno field. The bob guys have no problem with getting kicked in the teeth as long as ships dont magically apear in system with no cyno field. Their complaint was about ISD having to follow game mechanics while using capital ships. Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers' ehehehh....
Zagum Darkfin	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:54:00 - [203] Originally by: Kalened Originally by: Zagum Darkfin I end with a thought: let your own actions speak about your character, not your words. Did a member of the five just make a comment about smacking on the forums? holy fck i think i might die laughing. heres 5 isk.. buy a clue. Yes, I did. Young padawon, there is a difference in how you smack and if you can back it up. When we smack, its based on INGAME ACTIONS*. Can you say the same?? Lets ponder that thought for awhile..... Are you a...(read the sig)
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:54:00 - [204] Originally by: WildCard Ok, FE/5 needs 500 ppl at TS and about 340 in the gang to stand vs 60 G/IRON and friends. Not enough they called for help from the Guristas team. Then they engaged in the middel of the night. Sure, we attacked em agin and again with our small group. At last of course, we aren't able to handel em, and they shoot 3 POS in the reinfored mode. Well all fine for me. Let em be proud about their big deadly high end fleet, we also should be proud members of G/IRON and friends. Guys we enganged with 60ppl a fleet of ~340! Perhaps BOB will also do such things. But FE/5? Never erver. Wow a [G] genuine post. Ok [G] dude you're right, FE and The Five are found guilty to bring such a ridiculous force to defend D7. Defending your home is maybe too evil . You, brave G/IRON 60 pilots have shown great sense of reality there engaging ~340 defenders and your fleet commander have earned my respect. You haven't told us yet ... you won with those 60 pilots? I really doubt that 60 BoB would engage a ~340 fleet, they musta not be as "brave" as you . Guristas want to keep the good relations with us since they felt on their own skin that we are more concerned with the pvp side of the game than shooting them for iskies and t1 modules. Gurista are put to better use to shoot you and perhaps you should stop killing your npc so bad and they just might come with you to invade us ... better rofl This clue i gave you is free of charge, but hey; you're not gonna accept any explanation because remember ... IRON is smart, they just know better. I hope u had as much fun reading this as i had posting it "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:56:00 - [205] Ass hat? is this a homo term you are used to using or? Do you have proof of anything I have said is wrong or incorrect plz feel free to correct me and/or explain my asshatedness If not the stfu plz. What maria said was not even legit.Or is there bug and her alliance name is wrong and she is in the know. G/Iron/Rzr have seem to be pretty respectfull towards 5/fe/kaos in most recent posts.While you scream of lag etc etc.The thing everyone deals with in game. They even admit to the lag and gave your some leeway. You would be unhappy and wondering wtf(surely crying on forums)Just like if you got your last pos's put into reinforced mode in D7- cuzz of a G/iron/rzr and 8!! npc dreads (that did the most damage)Hit them,we would never hear the end of how un-****in-fair it was OK. Again I/everyone else want a screen shot of this 300+ gang 5/FE/koas had.I have heard of it mention as the 340 man gang or 350 even lol... but now it's getting down to 100-250.. PICS!!!! Until then stfu with your numbers as they keep changing.3 npc dreads,5,10,8... and countless gang numbers differ. Just looks at your posts even the edited ones,tell story differently. You had perfectly skilled 8 pheniox dreads on your side to hurt 3 pos's, I bet they put out more damage than your whole gang.Yet you say they made no difference.lol Show me a pos you 5/fe/koas/friends have destroyed or forced into reinforced mod without "event dreads" then I will ponder more on the fact.Until then again stfu acting like it made no difference. Now plz pics of 300 + gang. number not pic. of ships pics of numbers thanks :) WW
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:01:00 - [206] tbh i think the event guys just thought they would pic the winning team good for them STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
Commander Solo	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:02:00 - [207] Edited by: Commander Solo on 23/03/2006 18:03:34 Poor show from the events team tbh. Regardless of whether the dreads had any impact on the battle itself, to meddle in a regional conflict in a PVP orientated game is pure BS. If the Guristas had attacked POS in VFK/JU/3JN fair enough, it would have demonstrated their negative standing to IRON and its allies, while having no/little effect on a regional conflict. But aiding a defending fleet in a regional conflict is just flamebait, irresponsible and quite frankly in contrast to every thing CCP have aimed for. CCP whine on and on about the game being primarily PVP in their eyes, and how they want to push people away from 1.0 and into 0.0 and the event team pull something like this, do they really know their ass from their elbows? I couldnt care less if it happened it IRON or BOB, any NPC involvement in a regional conflict is BS. Since Guristas are now aligning themselves to FE etc, how about the devs remove guristas NPCs from FE/-V- space, oh we couldnt do that now could we :P
Krychton	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:05:00 - [208] Originally by: Well wicked Ass hat? is this a homo term you are used to using or? Do you have proof of anything I have said is wrong or incorrect plz feel free to correct me and/or explain my asshatedness If not the stfu plz. What maria said was not even legit.Or is there bug and her alliance name is wrong and she is in the know. G/Iron/Rzr have seem to be pretty respectfull towards 5/fe/kaos in most recent posts.While you scream of lag etc etc.The thing everyone deals with in game. They even admit to the lag and gave your some leeway. You would be unhappy and wondering wtf(surely crying on forums)Just like if you got your last pos's put into reinforced mode in D7- cuzz of a G/iron/rzr and 8!! npc dreads (that did the most damage)Hit them,we would never hear the end of how un-***in-fair it was OK. Again I/everyone else want a screen shot of this 300+ gang 5/FE/koas had.I have heard of it mention as the 340 man gang or 350 even lol... but now it's getting down to 100-250.. PICS!!!! Until then stfu with your numbers as they keep changing.3 npc dreads,5,10,8... and countless gang numbers differ. Just looks at your posts even the edited ones,tell story differently. You had perfectly skilled 8 pheniox dreads on your side to hurt 3 pos's, I bet they put out more damage than your whole gang.Yet you say they made no difference.lol Show me a pos you 5/fe/koas/friends have destroyed or forced into reinforced mod without "event dreads" then I will ponder more on the fact.Until then again stfu acting like it made no difference. Now plz pics of 300 + gang. number not pic. of ships pics of numbers thanks :) WW The question is, do you proof of there wasn't a 300+ fleet of F-E/-5-/KAOS and friends combined? Where talking about 3 alliances and support corps invovled, why is it hard to believe? Makes sense to me, if anything that was a small show of force. Imagine if everyone in those alliances actually did show up? ---- "No army is big enough to conquer the galaxy. But faith alone can overturn the universe."*
kashkaisha	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:05:00 - [209] "OMG 5 ***** cheating m0f0's are all GM's and are abusing us with their Guristas buddies from ISD.... waaaaaaggghhhhhh" NO WAY !! So you now .5. got GM in their team to help them to planificate the next action just like Bob ave ?? Any other alliance can claim to b lucky like them ? Those 2 alliance are also friend whit each other... Wow, what a fantastic coincidence
Quillan Rage	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:06:00 - [210] On a much lighter note, this is the coolest Sig I have ever seen on the forum boards... Apologies for having to upload to eve-files but you have a rotation on your sig so had to mnake sure it was the right one.... Please tell me you really made that and if so have you done any other models! Lego Megathron
Muskells	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:08:00 - [211] Edited by: Muskells on 23/03/2006 18:08:48 Does FE still think -5- have GM's in there alliance now they are friends an all
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:08:00 - [212] COME ON PEOPLE!!!!111!!!! IF WE KEEP PUSHING, WE CAN MAKE PAGE NINE!!!! /me hands out the cheese ____________________________________________
Krychton	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:09:00 - [213] I was hoping for page 10!!!! W00t!!! ---- "No army is big enough to conquer the galaxy. But faith alone can overturn the universe."
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:11:00 - [214] Originally by: Muskells Edited by: Muskells on 23/03/2006 18:08:48 Does FE still think -5- have GM's in there alliance now they are friends an all Yes we do. Why do you think we allied with them. Persh found out the truth by performing Sexual favours for Stan and next thing you know.......BAM NAP time. Now we are the winning side and we don't feel so bad that we had to *** Persh out. Yay Us Originally by:** Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:15:00 - [215] Originally by: Muskells Edited by: Muskells on 23/03/2006 18:08:48 Does FE still think -5- have GM's in there alliance now they are friends an all Nah - 10 seconds on TS with Thol removes that idea as a possibility ____________________________________________
Yuzier OA	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:16:00 - [216] Originally by: HeKnewTooMuch Well, it is well known fact that big sums of real money are involved in EVE, so appearance of favoritism and corruption amongst those who have "advanced facilities" in the game is (or maybe already was) just a matter of time. I wonder if these "Guristas pirates" not only "helping" FE/5 in battles but also supply them with their expensive mods... It would be very logical step in that event - like, аren't they allies now? Michael Moore is playing EVE The more you post the more pathetic G/Iron looks......
Lowa	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:22:00 - [217] Page 9, page 10..who cares! I want a proper "Page 3"! /LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Moridan	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:24:00 - [218] See Blacklight, you have outlined the real problem here. It looked like favortism to use that you got to kill all the Serps and get all that neato expensive loot and have fun. We the north just sat back and said: hey it would sure be nice if a dread/carrier showed up that we could fight and have some fun. And then, after a long time of nothing major ever seeming to happen NPC corp wise up here, BAM theres a HUGE Gurristas prescence helping out enemies taking out a POS when there was already a huge enemy fleet and not much resistance. So we're thinking WTF??? Theres nothing fun in that at all except for 5/FE in making their job easier. Not to mention any such 'story' element has so many holes in it, it doesn't make sense. "Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:33:00 - [219] Originally by: Muskells Edited by: Muskells on 23/03/2006 18:08:48 Does FE still think -5- have GM's in there alliance now they are friends an all Everyone knows all the GM's are in BoB... Fear the Ibis of doom.
Krychton	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:35:00 - [220] Originally by: Moridan See Blacklight, you have outlined the real problem here. It looked like favortism to use that you got to kill all the Serps and get all that neato expensive loot and have fun. We the north just sat back and said: hey it would sure be nice if a dread/carrier showed up that we could fight and have some fun. And then, after a long time of nothing major ever seeming to happen NPC corp wise up here, BAM theres a HUGE Gurristas prescence helping out enemies taking out a POS when there was already a huge enemy fleet and not much resistance. So we're thinking WTF??? Theres nothing fun in that at all except for 5/FE in making their job easier. Not to mention any such 'story' element has so many holes in it, it doesn't make sense. Would those 10 NPC's would have really made a difference? Sure they added more firepower, no denying that. Lets do some basic math here. We have lets say, 340 ships, 10 of them being NPC's. 340 - 10 = 330 Wow, thats still alot, don't you think? Almost makes those 10 NPC's irrelevant. ---- "No army is big enough to conquer the galaxy. But faith alone can overturn the universe."
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:42:00 - [221] LoL @ stan LOL thanks check the KB's for stats at least.
Ka Ten	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:44:00 - [222] those 10 npc as i understand it were in dreads and they have like max max skills so they make a hell of a difference to your capital fleet, because thats all people are moaning about here not numbers
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:47:00 - [223] Quote: Would those 10 NPC's would have really made a difference? Sure they added more firepower, no denying that. Lets do some basic math here. We have lets say, 340 ships, 10 of them being NPC's. 340 - 10 = 330 Nah they just want to complain whine and moan, funny how they were already flaming the forum as this was happening. Tip Be pro-active in future and stop tapping on your keyboard and flaming the forums to start using your mouse to bring your BSs and dreads out of a station and fight, hell thats what BoB did when it happened to them
Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:49:00 - [224] Edited by: Antoinette Civari on 23/03/2006 18:49:28 Originally by: Ka Ten those 10 npc as i understand it were in dreads and they have like max max skills so they make a hell of a difference to your capital fleet, because thats all people are moaning about here not numbers Yep, 5/fe/kaos wouldn't have been able to field 10(!) dreadnoughts on our own. we suck. :\
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:50:00 - [225] Originally by: Ka Ten those 10 npc as i understand it were in dreads and they have like max max skills so they make a hell of a difference to your capital fleet, because thats all people are moaning about here not numbers There were 5 dreads and 5 in BS support, but then we also had 7 dreads there with several more in D7 station just waiting for the call to come out, and shall i say that -5- and Kaos didnt bring there fleets down either. So if the NPCs hadnt come we would of had even more firepower there
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:50:00 - [226] Originally by: Well wicked Ass hat? is this a homo term you are used to using or? Do you have proof of anything I have said is wrong or incorrect plz feel free to correct me and/or explain my asshatedness If not the stfu plz. What maria said was not even legit.Or is there bug and her alliance name is wrong and she is in the know. G/Iron/Rzr have seem to be pretty respectfull towards 5/fe/kaos in most recent posts.While you scream of lag etc etc.The thing everyone deals with in game. They even admit to the lag and gave your some leeway. You would be unhappy and wondering wtf(surely crying on forums)Just like if you got your last pos's put into reinforced mode in D7- cuzz of a G/iron/rzr and 8!! npc dreads (that did the most damage)Hit them,we would never hear the end of how un-****in-fair it was OK. Again I/everyone else want a screen shot of this 300+ gang 5/FE/koas had.I have heard of it mention as the 340 man gang or 350 even lol... but now it's getting down to 100-250.. PICS!!!! Until then stfu with your numbers as they keep changing.3 npc dreads,5,10,8... and countless gang numbers differ. Just looks at your posts even the edited ones,tell story differently. You had perfectly skilled 8 pheniox dreads on your side to hurt 3 pos's, I bet they put out more damage than your whole gang.Yet you say they made no difference.lol Show me a pos you 5/fe/koas/friends have destroyed or forced into reinforced mod without "event dreads" then I will ponder more on the fact.Until then again stfu acting like it made no difference. Now plz pics of 300 + gang. number not pic. of ships pics of numbers thanks :) WW not that I have anything to prove to an alt... but... shoo unbeliever
Lone Bear	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:53:00 - [227] Edited by: Lone Bear on 23/03/2006 18:53:17 Originally by: kashkaisha "OMG 5 ***** cheating m0f0's are all GM's and are abusing us with their Guristas buddies from ISD.... waaaaaaggghhhhhh" NO WAY !! So you now .5. got GM in their team to help them to planificate the next action just like Bob ave ?? Any other alliance can claim to b lucky like them ? Those 2 alliance are also friend whit each other... Wow, what a fantastic coincidence Come on Kash I know you can be smarter than that... You aint gonna fall on the same foolish arguments than a lot of pilots have put here... Edit: On a side note Estamel is my fiancT
kashkaisha	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:59:00 - [228] Originally by: Lone Bear Edited by: Lone Bear on 23/03/2006 18:53:17 Originally by: kashkaisha "OMG 5 ***** cheating m0f0's are all GM's and are abusing us with their Guristas buddies from ISD.... waaaaaaggghhhhhh" NO WAY !! So you now .5. got GM in their team to help them to planificate the next action just like Bob ave ?? Any other alliance can claim to b lucky like them ? Those 2 alliance are also friend whit each other... Wow, what a fantastic coincidence Come on Kash I know you can be smarter than that... You aint gonna fall on the same foolish arguments than a lot of pilots have put here... Edit: On a side note Estamel is my fiancT yea i know...But you ave to admit its "louche "... Even if it doesnt change the final result...
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:04:00 - [229] Originally by: Well wicked Ass hat? is this a homo term you are used to using or? Do you have proof of anything I have said is wrong or incorrect plz feel free to correct me and/or explain my asshatedness If not the stfu plz. What maria said was not even legit.Or is there bug and her alliance name is wrong and she is in the know. G/Iron/Rzr have seem to be pretty respectfull towards 5/fe/kaos in most recent posts.While you scream of lag etc etc.The thing everyone deals with in game. They even admit to the lag and gave your some leeway. You would be unhappy and wondering wtf(surely crying on forums)Just like if you got your last pos's put into reinforced mode in D7- cuzz of a G/iron/rzr and 8!! npc dreads (that did the most damage)Hit them,we would never hear the end of how un-****in-fair it was OK. Again I/everyone else want a screen shot of this 300+ gang 5/FE/koas had.I have heard of it mention as the 340 man gang or 350 even lol... but now it's getting down to 100-250.. PICS!!!! Until then stfu with your numbers as they keep changing.3 npc dreads,5,10,8... and countless gang numbers differ. Just looks at your posts even the edited ones,tell story differently. You had perfectly skilled 8 pheniox dreads on your side to hurt 3 pos's, I bet they put out more damage than your whole gang.Yet you say they made no difference.lol Show me a pos you 5/fe/koas/friends have destroyed or forced into reinforced mod without "event dreads" then I will ponder more on the fact.Until then again stfu acting like it made no difference. Now plz pics of 300 + gang. number not pic. of ships pics of numbers thanks :) WW I love people who post without having the balls to say who they really are, i guess its one of those tartds that was posting on the forum while we were still gathering forces in D7, or maybe it was also one of the tards the the invaders had smacking in public. But yes truth be told we do have the help of the GMs now so i suggest all of eve just surrenders now to -5-/F-E/KAOS and goes back upto Jita/Rens and stays well away from 0.0, we are also having a gate installed for our own pirate use so that we can also disappear up into jove space and have some fun and collect some jove mods to come back down and pumble you again with, the real funny thing will be when tonight when we engage you again, and ship that opposes us the GMs have agreed to "Accidentaly Disconnect You From The Server" and you will log on in a pod after you have been popped. Also if we start to get overwhelmed by you whinging soggy tissues the events team has agreed to ally us to the Jove empire and they will come smash G/IRON just like they did to the amaars a long time ago
Kiyoshi Aphelion	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:07:00 - [230] If NPC corporations are going to aid one side in a conflict, then in all fairness, since this is a game we all pay to play, NPC corporations should aid, maybe not in the same way, but still aid the other side in the conflict. That being said. NPC corporations, and CCP should have no stake, right, or business interfering in a conflict in 0.0 space. 0.0 has always been player run roleplaying, alliances, affiliations, treaties. Empire has always been controled by Empires. Alliances are already at a disadvantage in holding space. Without the ability to place gate guns, outpost guns, so on and so forth, they are extremely vulnerable to attack. Especially when stricken by overwhelming force. In my humble opinion, I do not believe CCP should ever interfere in 0.0 operations as that is the only realm we players have left. This is not a flame, simply a statement of my opinion. I am in no way declaring it was unfair to IRON/G or overpowering .5. anymore than they already are. I am simply stating facts and opinion. Flame me Baby.
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:09:00 - [231] Originally by: Well wicked I have heard of it mention as the 340 man gang or 350 even lol... but now it's getting down to 100-250.. PICS!!!! Until then stfu with your numbers as they keep changing. For Obvious Alt OBVIOUSLY the NUMBERS in gang with GO UP AND DOWN with 300-400 ppl involved (relogging, crashing, taking a break, ect). Post with your main, many of us know who it is. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:11:00 - [232] Originally by: SengH Originally by: Well wicked Ass hat? is this a homo term you are used to using or? Do you have proof of anything I have said is wrong or incorrect plz feel free to correct me and/or explain my asshatedness If not the stfu plz. What maria said was not even legit.Or is there bug and her alliance name is wrong and she is in the know. G/Iron/Rzr have seem to be pretty respectfull towards 5/fe/kaos in most recent posts.While you scream of lag etc etc.The thing everyone deals with in game. They even admit to the lag and gave your some leeway. You would be unhappy and wondering wtf(surely crying on forums)Just like if you got your last pos's put into reinforced mode in D7- cuzz of a G/iron/rzr and 8!! npc dreads (that did the most damage)Hit them,we would never hear the end of how un-**in-fair it was OK. Again I/everyone else want a screen shot of this 300+ gang 5/FE/koas had.I have heard of it mention as the 340 man gang or 350 even lol... but now it's getting down to 100-250.. PICS!!!! Until then stfu with your numbers as they keep changing.3 npc dreads,5,10,8... and countless gang numbers differ. Just looks at your posts even the edited ones,tell story differently. You had perfectly skilled 8 pheniox dreads on your side to hurt 3 pos's, I bet they put out more damage than your whole gang.Yet you say they made no difference.lol Show me a pos you 5/fe/koas/friends have destroyed or forced into reinforced mod without "event dreads" then I will ponder more on the fact.Until then again stfu acting like it made no difference. Now plz pics of 300 + gang. number not pic. of ships pics of numbers thanks :) WW not that I have anything to prove to an alt... but... shoo unbeliever LOL PWNT !!!!! Originally by:** Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
maria stallion	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:12:00 - [233] Why are people whinning about us and how lame we are? G/iron Started to attack us at our weakest point. You don't have any balls if you leave a ally to die slowly while they are getting attacked for months and months and then say G could have walked over F-E no problem. Yeah if G space was invaded for 6 months in a row F-E could have walked over G without a problem aswell. For the people who say I don't know what I am talking about probally aint anywhere near tribute and BTW I saw Trust on the killmails in one of the big fleet battles or did they took a wrong turn?
Moridan	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:12:00 - [234] The numbers weren't the problem either. Who cares how many 5/fe/kaos had stuffed somewhere. Thats not the point. But you flagwavers will never see the point. We don't like it, we don't think its fair. You call us whiners and that we suck anyways. You do that anyways so its no skin off our back. "Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:16:00 - [235] Originally by: Moridan The numbers weren't the problem either. Who cares how many 5/fe/kaos had stuffed somewhere. Thats not the point. But you flagwavers will never see the point. We don't like it, we don't think its fair. You call us whiners and that we suck anyways. You do that anyways so its no skin off our back. What is the point then if a +300 fleet and the capability to field 3 times the dreads the guristas had isn't !!! We dotn call you whiners btw u guys speack for urselfs in the last bizillion whining posts that hurt my eyes readign so far "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:18:00 - [236] Originally by: maria stallion BTW I saw Trust on the killmails in one of the big fleet battles or did they took a wrong turn? He must have had crystals fit on his barge to get on the killmail. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
maria stallion	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:23:00 - [237] Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: maria stallion BTW I saw Trust on the killmails in one of the big fleet battles or did they took a wrong turn? He must have had crystals fit on his barge to get on the killmail. Didn't say they killed anyone, maybe they just got killed(didn't knew minning barges could tank that well) :P
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:28:00 - [238] Originally by: maria stallion Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: maria stallion BTW I saw Trust on the killmails in one of the big fleet battles or did they took a wrong turn? He must have had crystals fit on his barge to get on the killmail. Didn't say they killed anyone, maybe they just got killed(didn't knew minning barges could tank that well) :P A trust(X-tech) Eagle killed some atuk guy in H-W last week. Do a KB search.. Lets end this discussion here.
Lone Bear	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:36:00 - [239] Edited by: Lone Bear on 23/03/2006 19:41:42 Originally by: kashkaisha yea i know...But you ave to admit its "louche "... Even if it doesnt change the final result... I saw a lot of more "louche" things happening than these 8 guristas dreads. It aint suspicious. It was an event. Oveur didnt came in his pown mobile aka Titan of Doom. GM's werent even involved. That was the Aurora team. Only a part of them. But well if all capsuleers want to think someone has been paid, bribed etc to do this, it s up to them, but pity the fools and they should face the consequencies of such accusations from the GM team this time. Most amazin thing is how reactions are radically differents depending on wich side is the event team... Hypocrisy? Edit: What are those peeps gonna say when full factional warfare will be introduced? -> "OMG Caldari Navy are Haxxx000rz!!!" -> "WTF!! all those Fleet Tempest and we only got one Imperial Apoc on our side CHEAAAAT!!!" -> "DAMN I cant dock anymore in that npc 0.0 station I m even shot at!!!! Refund my sub!!!".
CKOZUK	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:46:00 - [240] Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS:
Jurushy	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:55:00 - [241] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS: check it again
johnnyknoxvile	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:02:00 - [242] ok im abit confused here.. guristas are npc's that you shot and get bountys for if i am correct.. and they helped shot down a pos and fight for an alliance now or just for a few weeks?
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:09:00 - [243] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS: Well I guess to be fair I shall say to you what was said to Kalened. At least his posts appear to be well constructed, and dont call FE .5.'s pets. But you know, what can you say. --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
Lord Violent	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:17:00 - [244] I dont see what all the fuss is about. The guristas want a new home in Jita and will be moving all there lvl 4 agents there. In exchange for us helping them attack the caldari state and take over the Jita stations they promised us a new titan, guristas dread support for a night and the first Megalith Mobile Starbase BPC. You need to train up criminal connections and find one of the secret factional deadspace complexes then you too will get these awesome factional warfare offers.
hired goon	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:24:00 - [245] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS: Well it's encouraging to know you guys are laughing and we're crying at the fact that we still have a foothold in your space dispite events team intervention, and are constantly embarassing you in every battle you attempt to fight. Because it's much more morally acceptable to school you if you're enjoying it! -omg-
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:31:00 - [246] I just had a kick butt chicken sandwich from carls jr. burp
Yuzier OA	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:56:00 - [247] Originally by: hired goon Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS: Well it's encouraging to know you guys are laughing and we're crying at the fact that we still have a foothold in your space dispite events team intervention, and are constantly embarassing you in every battle you attempt to fight. Because it's much more morally acceptable to school you if you're enjoying it! Ok...I am begining to think, in order to be a member of AUS corp, you have to be "Somewhere over the Rainbow", since both you Hired goon and your corpmate khalaned, have a somewhat obscure view of EVE
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:59:00 - [248] Originally by: Yuzier OA Originally by: hired goon Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS: Well it's encouraging to know you guys are laughing and we're crying at the fact that we still have a foothold in your space dispite events team intervention, and are constantly embarassing you in every battle you attempt to fight. Because it's much more morally acceptable to school you if you're enjoying it! Ok...I am begining to think, in order to be a member of AUS corp, you have to be "Somewhere over the Rainbow", since both you Hired goon and your corpmate khalaned, have a somewhat obscure view of EVE Goon's my alt and he speaks the truth.
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2006.03.23 21:16:00 - [249] ALL the questions towards ccp involvement have remained unaswered. However - let it be said - whatever ur thoughts are regarding the fairness of the ccp involvement - all THREE pos that were put into reinforced mode have been saved today by the G/FATE/IRON/RZR fleet, both in defending the pos and recharging their shields. So - the 'mighty' FE 5 340 mans fleet deployment with their sponsored help from CCP failed in its mission and they will have to start over again. Now that the pos's have been more heavily armed, i wonder, next time, will they have to beg for 20 ccp little helpers? or have they the balls to determine their own destiny??? personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht needed so much help
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.03.23 21:27:00 - [250] what does smite mean? - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Eskiban Vlasic	Posted - 2006.03.23 22:00:00 - [251] Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS: Don't even pretend that F-E and KAOS aren't your own personal little lapdogs. - Vlasic of TW Fame The Suicidal Newb F.R.E.E. Explorer
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.23 22:01:00 - [252] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists what does smite mean? smite Audio pronunciation of "smite" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smt) v. smote, (smt) smit+ten, (smtn) or smote smit+ing, smites v. tr. 1. 1. To inflict a heavy blow on, with or as if with the hand, a tool, or a weapon. 2. To drive or strike (a weapon, for example) forcefully onto or into something else. 2. To attack, damage, or destroy by or as if by blows. 3. 1. To afflict: The population was smitten by the plague. 2. To afflict retributively; chasten or chastise. 4. To affect sharply with great feeling: He was smitten by deep remorse. v. intr. To deal a blow with or as if with the hand or a hand-held weapon. [Middle English smiten, from Old English smtan, to smear.]smiter n.
Azure Skyclad	Posted - 2006.03.23 22:19:00 - [253] Originally by: Svett Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists what does smite mean? smite Audio pronunciation of "smite" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smt) v. smote, (smt) smit+ten, (smtn) or smote smit+ing, smites v. tr. 1. 1. To inflict a heavy blow on, with or as if with the hand, a tool, or a weapon. 2. To drive or strike (a weapon, for example) forcefully onto or into something else. 2. To attack, damage, or destroy by or as if by blows. 3. 1. To afflict: The population was smitten by the plague. 2. To afflict retributively; chasten or chastise. 4. To affect sharply with great feeling: He was smitten by deep remorse. 5. To pwn with unrestrained pwnage; They were pwned and found wanting. v. intr. To deal a blow with or as if with the hand or a hand-held weapon. [Middle English smiten, from Old English smtan, to smear.]smiter n. http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.03.23 22:33:00 - [254] Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 23/03/2006 22:33:33 k - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Sylvia McGregor	Posted - 2006.03.23 23:03:00 - [255] Hi i cannt get one Thing guys. You had to pay the Guristas with something ( you dont name it exactly) so they help you in D7. And in the next topics you named that they dont had any impact and with your mega fleet it would be the same without them. Conlusion you just wasted the Gurista help as you only managed to do something you would have been able to do alone.
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.03.23 23:09:00 - [256] Originally by: hired goon Originally by: CKOZUK Edited by: CKOZUK on 23/03/2006 19:47:01 For those of you who dont want to read the 9 pages of pure comdey Ill give you a quick synopsis: G+Pets: 5/FE/KAOS: Well it's encouraging to know you guys are laughing and we're crying at the fact that we still have a foothold in your space dispite events team intervention, and are constantly embarassing you in every battle you attempt to fight. Because it's much more morally acceptable to school you if you're enjoying it! Your Forum W*****G Skills make the mods wanna go Clicky Clicky "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
Aiolos Caci	Posted - 2006.03.23 23:14:00 - [257] Originally by: Azure Skyclad Originally by: Svett Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists what does smite mean? smite Audio pronunciation of "smite" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smt) v. smote, (smt) smit+ten, (smtn) or smote smit+ing, smites v. tr. 1. 1. To inflict a heavy blow on, with or as if with the hand, a tool, or a weapon. 2. To drive or strike (a weapon, for example) forcefully onto or into something else. 2. To attack, damage, or destroy by or as if by blows. 3. 1. To afflict: The population was smitten by the plague. 2. To afflict retributively; chasten or chastise. 4. To affect sharply with great feeling: He was smitten by deep remorse. 5. To pwn with unrestrained pwnage; They were pwned and found wanting. v. intr. To deal a blow with or as if with the hand or a hand-held weapon. [Middle English smiten, from Old English smtan, to smear.]smiter n. n00bs... it all came from a Russian word "smetana", which has only one meaning... sour cream!!! P.S. Az, your application to re-join BSC has been rejected again. Go away you ole git!!!
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2006.03.23 23:22:00 - [258] Quote: whatever ur thoughts are regarding the fairness of the ccp involvement - all THREE pos that were put into reinforced mode have been saved today by the G/FATE/IRON/RZR fleet, both in defending the pos and recharging their shields. So - the 'mighty' FE 5 340 mans fleet deployment with their sponsored help from CCP failed in its mission and they will have to start over again. Good job at 11 am. applause People tend to work at that time. The others came out of reinforced late afternoon (1600-ish) and we simply didnt have the numbers. Shooting PoS is a royal pain in the ass as it is already and reinforced mode just adds insult to injury. Anyway, had you strontium happen to run out 2-3 hours later the 'MIGHTY' G/IRON +random bandwagon corps would have had no chance to even start thinking about saving their PoS'es. I sure hope you Cmd Woodlouse enjoyed ferrying in more supplies with his carrier. Quote: Now that the pos's have been more heavily armed, i wonder, next time, will they have to beg for 20 ccp little helpers? or have they the balls to determine their own destiny??? Just FYI, the G PoS was as badly armed as it gets (7x Large Arty), so it wont be much of a difference next time around. Quote: personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht needed so much help personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht have yet to even fire a shot at a PoS
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.23 23:22:00 - [259] Edited by: Vince Draken on 23/03/2006 23:23:24 For the not so bright people here I shall let you in on a little seceret. Did you see the guristas today? Did you see us finish off the POS today? Could you have stopped us if we tried? If you you answered yes to any of the above, I pity you, seriously. We were contacted in advance as they wanted to try out their dreads and wanted to work with the pro's. It was said our job was to protect them during the event and make sure no incident (their deaths) happened. If we failed, we would suffer serious repercussions. If we succeed we would be rewarded. Figure it out. P.S. It is why the whinign is so funny, because what they did had ZERO impact on the whole thing. It is to setup for a later date. You wonder why some 'things' work certain ways in Eve? Look no further than your attitude here. Enjoy flying for Further Foodstuffs come Kali. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Adelai Niska	Posted - 2006.03.23 23:28:00 - [260] Originally by: Sylvia McGregor Hi i cannt get one Thing guys. You had to pay the Guristas with something ( you dont name it exactly) so they help you in D7. And in the next topics you named that they dont had any impact and with your mega fleet it would be the same without them. Conlusion you just wasted the Gurista help as you only managed to do something you would have been able to do alone. There's a serious possibility that the 'something' will have big negative consequences for F-E, but the other part of our payment (their initial offer) may or may not offset it. The dreads helped us, yes, but the way we fought (losing the occasional BS against their many POS guns, in order to shorten the siege hugely), they probably didn't do more than 1/3 the damage. Call it enthusiasm on the part of our leaders to take part in an event.
Kalened	Posted - 2006.03.23 23:54:00 - [261] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht needed so much help personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht have yet to even fire a shot at a PoS we took down an FE pos just after we put ours up. 1 pos kill g/iron 0 pos kills 5/fe.
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2006.03.24 00:16:00 - [262] Oh right yes that offline one. That definately gives you bragging rights.
meafy	Posted - 2006.03.24 00:23:00 - [263] Originally by: Kalened Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht needed so much help personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht have yet to even fire a shot at a PoS we took down an FE pos just after we put ours up. 1 pos kill g/iron 0 pos kills 5/fe. i think you will find that we killed the G POS on the first day of your invasion so that will be 1 - 1
hired goon	Posted - 2006.03.24 00:24:00 - [264] Originally by: Vince Draken Edited by: Vince Draken on 23/03/2006 23:23:24 For the not so bright people here I shall let you in on a little seceret. Did you see the guristas today? Did you see us finish off the POS today? Could you have stopped us if we tried? If you you answered yes to any of the above, I pity you, seriously. We were contacted in advance as they wanted to try out their dreads and wanted to work with the pro's. It was said our job was to protect them during the event and make sure no incident (their deaths) happened. If we failed, we would suffer serious repercussions. If we succeed we would be rewarded. Figure it out. P.S. It is why the whinign is so funny, because what they did had ZERO impact on the whole thing. It is to setup for a later date. You wonder why some 'things' work certain ways in Eve? Look no further than your attitude here. Enjoy flying for Further Foodstuffs come Kali. If you really need to bring an NPC corp to help, then yeah I guess. Long as it means we get an engagement, whatever. -omg-
Skogul	Posted - 2006.03.24 00:47:00 - [265] Smack Smack Smack Smack. Muppet's
Demangel	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:08:00 - [266] ROFL, I find all this really amusing. I would admit, I don't think I'd be angry one bit about it if I was on Iron/G's side... Though I might be a bit jealous for the attention... But I wouldn't go off spouting accusations of Gm's playing favorites. It's not like this one event doomed G/Iron to extinction, or even kicked them out of D7... Of course, the event may have only just started, who knows what will happen next... I would say this however... Nothing can be gained without some form of sacrifice... some price is always paid for such assistance, seeing as CCP (by proxy) is in effect buffing a player faction, and will likely continue to do so... One must wonder what the real costs will be in the long run for the player faction in question, not just what the short term costs are. It is the nature of making deals with the devil, that the price for ones dreams often seems so small in comparison, until at last the time comes to pay the piper... The only thing people need to wonder here... assuming CCP plays this well, Who is the devil, and who is going to be paying in the end? As far as I see it, even if I wasn't involved in the factions specified, or even if I was on the recieving end of the guristas guns, I would see this as a cool event, one that makes EVE seem more alive... IMHO the factions and nations in EVE, if used as nothing more than game mechanic pathways, are a horrible waste of ambience, and backstory... IMHO for EVE to realy feel alive, EVEs factions have to act alive now and then, even if they only ever play a second fiddle role in the player driven content, they are NPC's, and as such, must serve as a means to drive the games RP content forward, not just a source of missions, loot, and things to shoot at. What seems horrible to some of you, is IMHO something that would draw others to EVE if they knew it happened... I know next time i try and sell some of my friends on the game, I will bring up this event as one of the reasons why EVE is revolutionary, and really more than just an endless grind of leveling and aquisition, because it goes to show that there is more to this game that just pixels on the screen... When events such as these happen, EVE feels alive... Why? Simple... Because such events have repurcussions, and ripples, They actually effect a change... How many events in WOW/EQ have this quality about them? Unless you count handing out of uber rare loot as reward for saying your thee's and thou's properly, I think it's safe to say that none of those games have come even close to making thier events feel as if part of EVE. So I'm sorry, win or lose, knowing real players are involved and it having a major part of the games cannon/story, are really worth the loss of a little pride to the G/Iron invasion... Besides, there is always the possibility the same could happen in favor of you. Will you moan then? Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit.
Quillan Rage	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:11:00 - [267] Edited by: Quillan Rage on 24/03/2006 01:12:40 Edited by: Quillan Rage on 24/03/2006 01:12:29 Summary: Iron are L33t according to its members -V- are l33t according to its members FE are l33t according to its members Guristas are l33t according to CCP 9 pages of crap spouting the same rubbish Yes, F-E and -V- outnumbered IRON/G/Fate/Razor on March 22nd Yes IRON outnumbered -V- and F/E on March 20th this is a campaign so will be more about the long term results - having spoken to F-E guys - usually in a BS in empire travelling towards D7 - I have to say the conversations have been civil and we have said how we are enjoying the gameplay and the fact we have a battle on our doorsteps, whicjh is afterall what PvP'ers want. It seems a shame that this forum whoring of who is pwn'ing who is starting to taint what have so far been enjoyable and fun fights. As for CCP, in this case getting involved at what could be deemed a critical point in the development of a system was careless and ill thought out - alliances have been fighting there own battles and wars for long enough not to need an events team to come in and spice things up, which in this case actually ended up being detrimental to both sides, IRON because it scared us so much we all had to log and F-E because you were perfectly capable of achieving your mission without them, but will be remembered as the guys who had the hekp of the 4 (8am) or 300 (8pm) dreads that the Guristas supplied
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:24:00 - [268] Edited by: SengH on 24/03/2006 01:26:46 Originally by: Quillan Rage Edited by: Quillan Rage on 24/03/2006 01:12:40 Edited by: Quillan Rage on 24/03/2006 01:12:29 Summary: Iron are L33t according to its members -V- are l33t according to its members FE are l33t according to its members Guristas are l33t according to CCP 9 pages of crap spouting the same rubbish Yes, F-E and -V- outnumbered IRON/G/Fate/Razor on March 22nd Yes IRON outnumbered -V- and F/E on March 20th this is a campaign so will be more about the long term results - having spoken to F-E guys - usually in a BS in empire travelling towards D7 - I have to say the conversations have been civil and we have said how we are enjoying the gameplay and the fact we have a battle on our doorsteps, whicjh is afterall what PvP'ers want. It seems a shame that this forum whoring of who is pwn'ing who is starting to taint what have so far been enjoyable and fun fights. As for CCP, in this case getting involved at what could be deemed a critical point in the development of a system was careless and ill thought out - alliances have been fighting there own battles and wars for long enough not to need an events team to come in and spice things up, which in this case actually ended up being detrimental to both sides, IRON because it scared us so much we all had to log and F-E because you were perfectly capable of achieving your mission without them, but will be remembered as the guys who had the hekp of the 4 (8am) or 300 (8pm) dreads that the Guristas supplied I'm pretty sure there wasnt a single -V- member in D7 on March 22... So yeah if your going to post, at least get your alliances right. I dont even think -V- has even been involved in the fight vs Iron & G and all afaik. Their busy fighting RA down south.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:38:00 - [269] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 24/03/2006 01:39:33 Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Quote: whatever ur thoughts are regarding the fairness of the ccp involvement - all THREE pos that were put into reinforced mode have been saved today by the G/FATE/IRON/RZR fleet, both in defending the pos and recharging their shields. So - the 'mighty' FE 5 340 mans fleet deployment with their sponsored help from CCP failed in its mission and they will have to start over again. Good job at 11 am. applause People tend to work at that time. The others came out of reinforced late afternoon (1600-ish) and we simply didnt have the numbers. Shooting PoS is a royal pain in the ass as it is already and reinforced mode just adds insult to injury. Anyway, had you strontium happen to run out 2-3 hours later the 'MIGHTY' G/IRON +random bandwagon corps would have had no chance to even start thinking about saving their PoS'es. I sure hope you Cmd Woodlouse enjoyed ferrying in more supplies with his carrier. Quote: Now that the pos's have been more heavily armed, i wonder, next time, will they have to beg for 20 ccp little helpers? or have they the balls to determine their own destiny??? Just FYI, the G PoS was as badly armed as it gets (7x Large Arty), so it wont be much of a difference next time around. Quote: personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht needed so much help personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht have yet to even fire a shot at a PoS actually thats what carriers are for - support and resupply and a lil bit of fighter support. BUT u can transport stuff in a dread way better - havent u seen my lil baby? Badly armed? Dude, get a clue, our pos had scored over 100 kills on you, including 15 BS And to the last one, rofl? 9-1 - where we have a pos now, well there stood another L one from F-E. Do u think we have removed it w/o shooting at all? <3 the intel of F-E -------------------------------- I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:44:00 - [270] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Oh right yes that offline one. That definately gives you bragging rights. Actually it was online until reinforce mode. then it dropped out of it due to not being fuelled correctly a bit after dt. thx for the haulers with pos fuel btw -------------------------------- I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:17:00 - [271] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Quote: whatever ur thoughts are regarding the fairness of the ccp involvement - all THREE pos that were put into reinforced mode have been saved today by the G/FATE/IRON/RZR fleet, both in defending the pos and recharging their shields. So - the 'mighty' FE 5 340 mans fleet deployment with their sponsored help from CCP failed in its mission and they will have to start over again. Good job at 11 am. applause People tend to work at that time. The others came out of reinforced late afternoon (1600-ish) and we simply didnt have the numbers. Shooting PoS is a royal pain in the ass as it is already and reinforced mode just adds insult to injury. But wait... Originally by: csebal Originally by: DeadDuck 4:30 AM during the week because of a Game ????!!!! Let me think a bit about that ... no thank you .... Complaining, about numbers, during the evening? It looks like that is ok, despite your obvious unwillingness to commit yourself to a task. Maybe you should ditch work and commit yourself to a task? Oh, and Guristas helped us with a kill or two tonight. [23:26:16] Twizzle > maybe next time you would want to try that with out having the npcs helping you:) [23:26:25] Twizzle > more than 1 will go down, for certain [23:26:32] siliconix > ... [23:27:09] Hamatitio > we can't fight without npcs helping us tbh [23:27:27] siliconix > we have guristas helping us today ;p [23:27:29] Twizzle > I know, your a bunch of pansies hmm.. buggy pasting. --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
vankar	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:47:00 - [272] Edited by: vankar on 24/03/2006 02:48:39 I've pretty much faught everyone in my time in eve and IRON/G have to be the most moaning bitaches out there, just get over it.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:55:00 - [273] Originally by: vankar Edited by: vankar on 24/03/2006 02:48:39 I've pretty much faught everyone in my time in eve and IRON/G have to be the most moaning bitaches out there, just get over it. Wow, Welcome Mr. uber, I am sorry I didnt make appropriate arrangements for you, I had little knowledge of your involvement in this thread. How do you have anything useful to add? --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:59:00 - [274] Edited by: Tiuwaz on 24/03/2006 03:00:42 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 24/03/2006 01:39:33 Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Quote: whatever ur thoughts are regarding the fairness of the ccp involvement - all THREE pos that were put into reinforced mode have been saved today by the G/FATE/IRON/RZR fleet, both in defending the pos and recharging their shields. So - the 'mighty' FE 5 340 mans fleet deployment with their sponsored help from CCP failed in its mission and they will have to start over again. Good job at 11 am. applause People tend to work at that time. The others came out of reinforced late afternoon (1600-ish) and we simply didnt have the numbers. Shooting PoS is a royal pain in the ass as it is already and reinforced mode just adds insult to injury. Anyway, had you strontium happen to run out 2-3 hours later the 'MIGHTY' G/IRON +random bandwagon corps would have had no chance to even start thinking about saving their PoS'es. I sure hope you Cmd Woodlouse enjoyed ferrying in more supplies with his carrier. Quote: Now that the pos's have been more heavily armed, i wonder, next time, will they have to beg for 20 ccp little helpers? or have they the balls to determine their own destiny??? Just FYI, the G PoS was as badly armed as it gets (7x Large Arty), so it wont be much of a difference next time around. Quote: personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht needed so much help personally - - i say WTFPWNED - to those taht have yet to even fire a shot at a PoS actually thats what carriers are for - support and resupply and a lil bit of fighter support. BUT u can transport stuff in a dread way better - havent u seen my lil baby? Badly armed? Dude, get a clue, our pos had scored over 100 kills on you, including 15 BS And to the last one, rofl? 9-1 - where we have a pos now, well there stood another L one from F-E. Do u think we have removed it w/o shooting at all? <3 the intel of F-E woody woody you as non english native speaker should have realized first that he meant, that the pos was HEAVILY armed. He responed to one of your guys, who implied that the pos werepoorly armed which was fixed after they came out of reinforced. Shayla simply stated that he said bull** as yourpos' were already heavily armed with 7 large arties. You just confirmed Shaylas statement that they were heavily armed. If you had looked beyond the word "badly" and looked at the meaning of his statement you should have realized. Look at the meaning and dont pick out words, lots of non english speaker and we do make mistakes . Yeh ppl forget about that 1 POS you shot down. To all the other G/IRON first you whine several pages about Guristas, then you go haha not even Guristas help made finish off those POS', do some chest beating, say the others suck etc. Can it get more retarded? To the timezone whining, G/IRON of all ppl have no right to whine, while it may be a weakness of yours it is also one of your greatest strength as most of your playerbase will be online at the same time. (and its not like G says, hey lets not do anything till they got their population peak) All in all a very poor attitude mostly from IRON guys and some from G. I especially find IRON's big guy attitude hilarious as it's mostly G/RAZOR/Fate fighting with some IRON guys. Originally by:** Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:03:00 - [275] I find this funny if the roles were reversed the same thing would have happened endless forum whining. ----------------------------------------------- Done is done Yes, there will be no taking back Every journey must come to an end All hail to the Gunslinger Beyond our reach, out of control
Colonel O'Neill	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:37:00 - [276] Originally by: Tiuwaz woody woody you as non english native speaker should have realized first that he meant, that the pos was HEAVILY armed. In defence of Woodlouse, since when does "badly" mean "really good"? I'm sick of people twisting/completely changing the meaning of words. Especially street slang BS // Colonel O'Neill
Pant Alones	Posted - 2006.03.24 04:04:00 - [277] Originally by: Tiuwaz All in all a very poor attitude mostly from IRON guys and some from G. I especially find IRON's big guy attitude hilarious as it's mostly G/RAZOR/Fate fighting with some IRON guys. Hammer away at that wedge! ------------------------
Xenu	Posted - 2006.03.24 04:20:00 - [278] can i have someone's stuff? ________________________________________________________
Recscue	Posted - 2006.03.24 04:51:00 - [279] eh too bad all that effort was in vain as not one pos that was put in reinforced was taken out
Phonix	Posted - 2006.03.24 04:59:00 - [280] Originally by: Recscue eh too bad all that effort was in vain as not one pos that was put in reinforced was taken out I find that pretty funny to. Fate Website & Killboard CEO of Fate
Wizie	Posted - 2006.03.24 05:29:00 - [281] Had it been taken out, I'm sure we would have seen 2-5 more threads from G/IRON regarding how lame 5 and there GM alts screwed over everything.
VladImpaler	Posted - 2006.03.24 05:59:00 - [282] Irony: It's funny how 5 left their own space because POS wars sucked so bad, only to jump into more POS wars a few months later. Will they pull out and blame game mechanics this time too? All the claims that the Guristas influence made no difference in the battle. Well in this case they were right, only that they didn't think that it would be G/IRON/Razor the victors. The fact that despite having subsantially greater numbers and "skilled pilots", 5 and F-E are under attack from much smaller and pathetic forces, and 5/F-E are losing ground. The fact that both sides defend their use of "off-peak" times to advance against the other side, while at the same time frowning upon the other's use of the same tactic. The fact that the inhabitants of Cloud Ring, Fade, & Deklien are red to nearly all other 0.0 alliances, yet no one is invading them. The fact that at no point has 5/F-E fielded that large of a fleet to combat the invading forces prior to the Guristas event. The fact that F-E napped their enemies, The Five, in order to save their own asses, only to make an enemy of a much bigger threat to their survival.
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:08:00 - [283] Originally by: VladImpaler Irony: It's funny how 5 left their own space because POS wars sucked so bad, only to jump into more POS wars a few months later. Will they pull out and blame game mechanics this time too? All the claims that the Guristas influence made no difference in the battle. Well in this case they were right, only that they didn't think that it would be G/IRON/Razor the victors. The fact that despite having subsantially greater numbers and "skilled pilots", 5 and F-E are under attack from much smaller and pathetic forces, and 5/F-E are losing ground. The fact that both sides defend their use of "off-peak" times to advance against the other side, while at the same time frowning upon the other's use of the same tactic. The fact that the inhabitants of Cloud Ring, Fade, & Deklien are red to nearly all other 0.0 alliances, yet no one is invading them. The fact that at no point has 5/F-E fielded that large of a fleet to combat the invading forces prior to the Guristas event. The fact that F-E napped their enemies, The Five, in order to save their own asses, only to make an enemy of a much bigger threat to their survival. I love when ppl have no clue about that they talk about
NATMav	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:11:00 - [284] I love when ppl have no clue about that they talk about I love when people post something to discredit a post, rather than try to refute it.
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:16:00 - [285] Originally by: ZedLey Originally by: VladImpaler Irony: It's funny how 5 left their own space because POS wars sucked so bad, only to jump into more POS wars a few months later. Will they pull out and blame game mechanics this time too? All the claims that the Guristas influence made no difference in the battle. Well in this case they were right, only that they didn't think that it would be G/IRON/Razor the victors. The fact that despite having subsantially greater numbers and "skilled pilots", 5 and F-E are under attack from much smaller and pathetic forces, and 5/F-E are losing ground. The fact that both sides defend their use of "off-peak" times to advance against the other side, while at the same time frowning upon the other's use of the same tactic. The fact that the inhabitants of Cloud Ring, Fade, & Deklien are red to nearly all other 0.0 alliances, yet no one is invading them. The fact that at no point has 5/F-E fielded that large of a fleet to combat the invading forces prior to the Guristas event. The fact that F-E napped their enemies, The Five, in order to save their own asses, only to make an enemy of a much bigger threat to their survival. I love when ppl have no clue about that they talk about I agree with mr. alt Oh my god what has this world come to. However I am starting to feel this thread has run its course and I feel a lock coming soon :\ --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:25:00 - [286] a .5. member told me to drink bleach. It burned. I think the bleach is allying with them too. Down with clorox! Down with clorox! nerf clorox. --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
Trespasser	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:26:00 - [287] Edited by: Trespasser on 24/03/2006 06:31:35 The best part is that 80% of the replys to this post are by FE and 5ive saying it was fair, and no 1 has answered my question yet - find me 8 Caldari dreads that do 1mill+ damage per minute with 40% resist on the shields -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and to the 5 and fe, why is like all your members posting the same stuff in this thread "it was fair etc? i mean after the first 4 pages i stopped reading, it ran togeather and i kept asking my self didnt i read this before? bottom line is we wouldnt have cared so much if we would have atleast knownen a day or so ahead of time so we could have had people on, but that didnt happen, It was a ****take tbh if H-pa was a conq station and serpentis rolled up in their and put all your pos's in reinforced mode without any notice and then g/iron took the station because of it, you guys wouldnt say oh its fair game, you guys would be like zomg our dreads are stuck in a station, and if you undocked and died you couldnt get back in to get another ship so you would be forced to leave or keep moving in a SS all day oh and <3 darko and <3 woody :D My name is Trespasser and I approved this Message!
Trespasser	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:27:00 - [288] Edited by: Trespasser on 24/03/2006 06:27:50 Originally by: Hamatitio a .5. member told me to drink bleach. It burned. I think the bleach is allying with them too. Down with clorox! Down with clorox! nerf clorox. /signed only because i was told to drink it too 2 things happened 1. im out of bleach 2. imran thought it was Cherry soda My name is Trespasser and I approved this Message!
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:33:00 - [289] lol -pwnt- I think some atuk muppet said?? with screen shot of gang.props on the proof Well you have screen shot of 320 person gang; I give you that.It's a **in pic of you all at a friendly safe pos.Show me this same gang attacking the pos. or doing anything in unisson in battle. THe bottom line is them 8 dreads put more fire power out than you whole fleet.Yet you say this in no way effected the out come?You couldn't even finish the job, guy.Out numbered G/iron/rzr seem to be picking you apart.However time will tell and this whole smack fest has fueled the fire more.So let the fighting comence. Atm I think f-e,5 etc have lost 4 pos's and 2 being large.removed...gone.no more.So talk about pos numbers is dumb or do you need proof?So man your 300+ gang and pwn the pos's without the npc dreads.Then no questions will be left.k? thanx Silly thing is I wonder how many alts, were in the gang of FE/5/koas/friends and how many carebear **s that knew gurista's would be there and got all happy.I mean lol, people in this game go nutz for that shyt so i doubt that represents your current military power imo.prove me wrong ww
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.24 06:37:00 - [290] Event team dreads > all others. Not many actual players have dread 5 and citadel torp 5! haxsploits tbh! I think I hijacked the thread back onto course though, because im pretty sure the original topic was the guristas aligning with Fe... maybe. --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
BlackHawk177	Posted - 2006.03.24 07:59:00 - [291] Edited by: BlackHawk177 on 24/03/2006 07:59:44 Originally by: Well wicked Well you have screen shot of 320 person gang; I give you that.It's a **in pic of you all at a friendly safe pos.Show me this same gang attacking the pos. or doing anything in unisson in battle. Sorry... This isn't the 'Entire" gang, but there's atleast 100+ ships attacking here. Linkage (not my screenshot btw) Originally by:** Dark Shikari In soviet russia, game lags you
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.24 08:04:00 - [292] Originally by: Well wicked lol -pwnt- I think some atuk muppet said?? with screen shot of gang.props on the proof Well you have screen shot of 320 person gang; I give you that.It's a **in pic of you all at a friendly safe pos.Show me this same gang attacking the pos. or doing anything in unisson in battle. THe bottom line is them 8 dreads put more fire power out than you whole fleet.Yet you say this in no way effected the out come?You couldn't even finish the job, guy.Out numbered G/iron/rzr seem to be picking you apart.However time will tell and this whole smack fest has fueled the fire more.So let the fighting comence. Atm I think f-e,5 etc have lost 4 pos's and 2 being large.removed...gone.no more.So talk about pos numbers is dumb or do you need proof?So man your 300+ gang and pwn the pos's without the npc dreads.Then no questions will be left.k? thanx Silly thing is I wonder how many alts, were in the gang of FE/5/koas/friends and how many carebear **s that knew gurista's would be there and got all happy.I mean lol, people in this game go nutz for that shyt so i doubt that represents your current military power imo.prove me wrong ww We havent lost any POS but whatever you say must be true right
Garia666	Posted - 2006.03.24 08:18:00 - [293] ffs guy`s.. Shut the hell up and fight it out on the battle grounds. ADGA Website
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.24 08:20:00 - [294] Edited by: Fred0 on 24/03/2006 08:20:57 Originally by: Garia666 ffs guy`s.. Shut the hell up and fight it out on the battle grounds. Indeed. You guys got some isd backup. We had 24 hours of whining on the forums. Seems pretty even to me, but now lets get on with it again. ---
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.03.24 08:21:00 - [295] Just be glad you have an enemy that fights. Wish we had one... :( Fear the Ibis of doom.
Balazs Simon	Posted - 2006.03.24 08:51:00 - [296] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 24/03/2006 08:20:57 Originally by: Garia666 ffs guy`s.. Shut the hell up and fight it out on the battle grounds. Indeed. You guys got some isd backup. We had 24 hours of whining on the forums. Seems pretty even to me, but now lets get on with it again. 50-50 But agree... All G/I/R can calm down, you guys did not lost your POS-es, basicly noting happened, you just lost some strontium, and a few POS moduls. We got a nice event, and we saw some pretty explosions... thats all. Nothing to see here move along... - POST WITH YOUR MAIN! This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. -
DirtyHarry	Posted - 2006.03.24 08:58:00 - [297] This thread shows some simple facts, G and IRON got owned by Roleplayers note: i didnt read past the first post so bite me -Havo ------------------- DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - yarr tbh "Take from the rich and put it on eBay" - zincol
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:07:00 - [298] I cast magic missile ON THE DARKNESS!
Lain Khazar	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:12:00 - [299] Originally by: BlackHawk177 Linkage (not my screenshot btw) lol @ stab WTB: avatar-pic
Hemroid O'Heimatar	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:15:00 - [300] I'd like to order a few freighter's full of space cheese to go with the G/IRON whine please.
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:24:00 - [301] Edited by: Svett on 24/03/2006 09:25:17 a lame pic
hired goon	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:28:00 - [302] Originally by: Hemroid O'Heimatar I'd like to order a few freighter's full of space cheese to go with the G/IRON whine please. Better get the events team to escort those freighters, or they'll never undock. -omg-
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.24 09:29:00 - [303] one of these days i'll remember to turn the ui off when i take a ss ATUK frig gang in action!
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:09:00 - [304] Intresting, Someone count the Iron/G posters compared to the FE/5 and then ask who is whining.I think whining about whining is almost if not worse. Now the only pic I have seen of gang attacking pos showing actual numbers was 215.Even on that pic there is not that many pilots active on the POS.So at least we got decent numbr of who was atcive or alts etc. ty :) WW
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:13:00 - [305] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 24/03/2006 10:14:00 People. This ends now. This rapidly degenerated into a mud slinging contest only a few pages in. I want to get some things straight right here, to my knowledge on the incident: - The event was unannounced - There has been no subsequent in-character announcement by Guristas, regarding their assault on the IRON/G POS' - There has been no announcement at all in fact, from a CCP employee/GM/Aurora person, regarding the event Perhaps I missed things (I posted in the Events forum that perhaps Aurora actors should have green bars, like Dev's yellow ones, for us to recognise events), but that's how I see it. Shinoobie's original post did not suggest that F-E/.5. pilots had friends in the GM/Aurora team., and frankly I am disgusted that pilots on both sides are suggesting it. There were similar accusations in the past against ASCN, BoB, IRON, etc., all without any proof whatsoever. We need an official response on this. This whole thread, it's origination, and the 6 others that have spawned in other forums; have all been regarding Aurora policy on this matter. I refer you to my original points about this appearing to be a seemingly random occurance, without any forewarning, or official post-analysis. Edit: This thread should not be an e-peen contest on who had the bigger fleet. These are NOT official IRON/G views.
Daxes	Posted - 2006.03.24 10:36:00 - [306] Originally by: ZedLey We havent lost any POS but whatever you say must be true right if "we" = 5 then you are right, prolly because .5. has no POS in d7 but a POS of F-E was already killed in d7.
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:22:00 - [307] Originally by: Well wicked lol -pwnt- I think some atuk muppet said?? with screen shot of gang.props on the proof Well you have screen shot of 320 person gang; I give you that.It's a **in pic of you all at a friendly safe pos.Show me this same gang attacking the pos. or doing anything in unisson in battle. THe bottom line is them 8 dreads put more fire power out than you whole fleet.Yet you say this in no way effected the out come?You couldn't even finish the job, guy.Out numbered G/iron/rzr seem to be picking you apart.However time will tell and this whole smack fest has fueled the fire more.So let the fighting comence. Atm I think f-e,5 etc have lost 4 pos's and 2 being large.removed...gone.no more.So talk about pos numbers is dumb or do you need proof?So man your 300+ gang and pwn the pos's without the npc dreads.Then no questions will be left.k? thanx Silly thing is I wonder how many alts, were in the gang of FE/5/koas/friends and how many carebear **s that knew gurista's would be there and got all happy.I mean lol, people in this game go nutz for that shyt so i doubt that represents your current military power imo.prove me wrong ww 5/FE/Guristas attacking POS POS ATTACK
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:23:00 - [308] Yes, Ty G dude, I guess 5 is seperating themselves alrdy from FE.So easy and nice to combine all to make stats or anything to make you look good.Which hasn't happened much this war(the ability to look good). Yet make sure the people that are getting pwned don't affect you, cuzz they are allies not you... lol.I am more aligned with 5/FE/koas/friends.Yet some of the things said make be think of you as weak people.I mean you contradict yourselfs constantly.So tell peopel to get on the same page before they start to post, at least. Again anyone that wonders what is really going on.Check killboards and stats.The rest of you pirates hookers . Start the killing and deportation of morale. ladiez ww
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:24:00 - [309] Whatever makes you feel better altiboy
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:26:00 - [310] Originally by: Well wicked Yes, Ty G dude, I guess 5 is seperating themselves alrdy from FE.So easy and nice to combine all to make stats or anything to make you look good.Which hasn't happened much this war(the ability to look good). Yet make sure the people that are getting pwned don't affect you, cuzz they are allies not you... lol.I am more aligned with 5/FE/koas/friends.Yet some of the things said make be think of you as weak people.I mean you contradict yourselfs constantly.So tell peopel to get on the same page before they start to post, at least. Again anyone that wonders what is really going on.Check killboards and stats.The rest of you pirates hookers . Start the killing and deportation of morale. ladiez ww for contridiction just give orc A a call he will constantly change his mind and confuse u endlessly
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:40:00 - [311] Hey, Thank you for the post of the gang and pic.There is no way in hell that is even half of the gang number you posted.Maybe almost half, that was my point.You guys act like you had a uber 350 person gang for hours and no one could stop you, which doesn't seem true now(unless more pics?).Granted you had the bigger fleet at that time, but nothing near the nubmers you boast.Not fully active at least. So why the others are safespoted,docked,or at the friendly pos I don't know.However I know enough and can't count to see even the ones stacked(givign them 2-3), that don't come anywhere near 200 let alone 350. Again though ty for posting the pic and proving me point a bit again.Now get out there and whoop some ass WW p.s. Also curious if you had any goon fleet mixxed in that gang.Also; we will prob never know true numbers with all the other corps that are flying with you now, but granted they are there for the battle.Still impressive numbers:0 GL all
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2006.03.24 11:46:00 - [312] Originally by: Well wicked Hey, Thank you for the post of the gang and pic.There is no way in hell that is even half of the gang number you posted.Maybe almost half, that was my point.You guys act like you had a uber 350 person gang for hours and no one could stop you, which doesn't seem true now(unless more pics?).Granted you had the bigger fleet at that time, but nothing near the nubmers you boast.Not fully active at least. So why the others are safespoted,docked,or at the friendly pos I don't know.However I know enough and can't count to see even the ones stacked(givign them 2-3), that don't come anywhere near 200 let alone 350. Again though ty for posting the pic and proving me point a bit again.Now get out there and whoop some ass WW p.s. Also curious if you had any goon fleet mixxed in that gang.Also; we will prob never know true numbers with all the other corps that are flying with you now, but granted they are there for the battle.Still impressive numbers:0 GL all Enough is enough, your obviusly only here to smack and nothing less...I did you a favor and posted these pics...blatently calling me a liar, only enforces my believs in your ability to communicate coherent on these forums. Your ramblings only further testaments your alliance whining policy, and makes you look like a muppet. Im sorry to say
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:16:00 - [313] So making a quick rewind of the week events on D7-ZAC: 1)During the weekend/this week G/IRON/RAZOR/FATE forces managed to destroy several POS, inflict a big defeat over a 5/FE fleet and install 3 POS in D7-ZAC, 2)FE/5 assembled a huge fleet of more then 250BS with Dreads to destroy the 3 hostile POS The IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces on local were completly outnumbered. While still trying to assemble a force, a NPC event started and 7/8 Dread from Guristas faction alligned on FE/5 forces side, completly frustrating any plans of IRON/G/RAZOR/Fate forces still try to offer any kind of resistance. 3) The 3 POS from IRON/G were reduced to reinforced mode by FE/5/Guristas fleet and IRON/G/Razor/Fate forces still lost some BS in skirmishes around the POS's 4) Yesterday the IRON/G/Razor/Fate Forces managed to recover all the POS that were reduced to reinforced mode on the previous day. Some skirmishes occour but a big engament never took place. Week Conclusions: 1) IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces continue in D7-ZAC system 2) 5/FE managed to show a overwelming strenght during the week but failed to achive pratical results because the primary objectives werent achived: a) Destruction of the Iron/G POS's b) Destruction of Iron/G/Razor/Fate fleet I think thats it
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:17:00 - [314] Youve always assumed too much deadduck
Naphtalia	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:29:00 - [315] F-E nor .5. never announced any primary objective, I am glad you think you know our primary objective for this week and I agree our primary objectives failed. In other words get better spies.. you will need them soon..
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:31:00 - [316] Originally by: Lowa Page 9, page 10..who cares! I want a proper "Page 3"! /LOWA lol, 2nd^^ Chimera Sales
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:33:00 - [317] OMG DD I think you've just been appointed our own Iraqi information minister ---
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:35:00 - [318] Noted ulric don't like facts :( Well, I'm not in any alliance so, good job on assuming things.Do you know what you do when you assume?I hope you do.... The facts are: I did not call you a liar,I actually thanked you for the pics.However there is barely over hundred ships encluding the EVENT dreads in the screen shot you gave me.I also mentioned nice gang numbers count on the tab, that don't mean active pilots or envolved.The pic you showed me was by far the biggest number of 5/fe/koas/friends I have seen.Again props on them numbers in the gang window. I'm not smacking and more on your side than you know.However I'm pointing out facts ok.If there is anything you wish to prove wrong or challenge me then fine.However there is little that i have said to flame and not represent the facts as read and combine that information. Sorry I upset you with the facts?Keep flaming me... yes you've been flaming me if anything.I haven't falmed anyone yet and I'll count the number of fe/5/koas posts vs others.Show you who is whining louder than the rest. Also when you read the posts about this event, can't you see that besidse you,SOME BoB, and few stranglers the rest of the player base is agreeign with iron/g/rzr/friends that it shouldn't of went down like that?.. or are you blind ffs? thanx WW
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:36:00 - [319] Originally by: Fred0 OMG DD I think you've just been appointed our own Iraqi information minister Please dont !!!! I dont have have the bull**** capabilities !!!!
Buster Gonads	Posted - 2006.03.24 12:37:00 - [320] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 24/03/2006 10:14:00 People. This ends now. This rapidly degenerated into a mud slinging contest only a few pages in. I want to get some things straight right here, to my knowledge on the incident: - The event was unannounced - There has been no subsequent in-character announcement by Guristas, regarding their assault on the IRON/G POS' - There has been no announcement at all in fact, from a CCP employee/GM/Aurora person, regarding the event Perhaps I missed things (I posted in the Events forum that perhaps Aurora actors should have green bars, like Dev's yellow ones, for us to recognise events), but that's how I see it. Shinoobie's original post did not suggest that F-E/.5. pilots had friends in the GM/Aurora team., and frankly I am disgusted that pilots on both sides are suggesting it. There were similar accusations in the past against ASCN, BoB, IRON, etc., all without any proof whatsoever. We need an official response on this. This whole thread, it's origination, and the 6 others that have spawned in other forums; have all been regarding Aurora policy on this matter. I refer you to my original points about this appearing to be a seemingly random occurance, without any forewarning, or official post-analysis. Edit: This thread should not be an e-peen contest on who had the bigger fleet. These are NOT official IRON/G views. QFT.
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.24 13:57:00 - [321] Holy smack "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
TaiPe	Posted - 2006.03.24 14:55:00 - [322] Order #1 for all 5-members Everytime you see a logical GIRON contribution at the forums, quote it and paste one of our satisfactorily standard answers below. Also you may use one or serveral smilies. If you don't know how to copy & paste ask the ppl in your Ally-Channel. Here a snapshot of our answer-database rofl lamo lol they cant explain ppl just like to whine whiners Yup Yup ust keep the whining comming i enjoy it gogogo f-e/5 Please shut up dont cry to loud now.... aint life a real kick in the ***** F-E 4tw \o/ 5 4tw \o/ I frapsed it, just for you G guys hey allready crying at forums Just LOL loolol bleh 2 LIES blah blah blah Deal with it FivE > GIRON cry more iron/g. you dirty bugger lol @ IRON + G.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:09:00 - [323] Originally by: TaiPe Order #1 for all 5-members Everytime you see a logical GIRON contribution at the forums, quote it and paste one of our satisfactorily standard answers below. Also you may use one or serveral smilies. If you don't know how to copy & paste ask the ppl in your Ally-Channel. Here a snapshot of our answer-database rofl lamo lol they cant explain ppl just like to whine whiners Yup Yup ust keep the whining comming i enjoy it gogogo f-e/5 Please shut up dont cry to loud now.... aint life a real kick in the ***** F-E 4tw \o/ 5 4tw \o/ I frapsed it, just for you G guys hey allready crying at forums Just LOL loolol bleh 2 LIES blah blah blah Deal with it FivE > GIRON cry more iron/g. you dirty bugger lol @ IRON + G. I happen to enjoy's "Bizarre"'s famous "End yourself" most tbh.
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:16:00 - [324] Originally by: DeadDuck So making a quick rewind of the week events on D7-ZAC: A quick rewind of the REAL events shall we? Quote: 1)During the weekend/this week G/IRON/RAZOR/FATE forces managed to destroy several POS, inflict a big defeat over a 5/FE fleet and install 3 POS in D7-ZAC, During the weekend G/IRON/RZR/FATE/CELES forces manage to destroy 1 F-E PoS that was unarmed and has no strontium. Stupid mistake by the owner, yes. A feat? Not really. F-E starts moving people to H-W/IMK and D7 to match the GIRFC numbers. GIRFC dominates afternoon timezones early in the week while F-E/[5]/KAOS gather people. On tuesday G tries to put up their first PoS and F-E and [5] kill it before it ever onlines even with 150 enemies in local. Of course they still put up a PoS cause you can't really stop it anyway and start ferrying in supplies with dreads and freighters. <skip rest of week> Quote: 2)FE/5 assembled a huge fleet of more then 250BS with Dreads to destroy the 3 hostile POS The IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces on local were completly outnumbered. While still trying to assemble a force, a NPC event started and 7/8 Dread from Guristas faction alligned on FE/5 forces side, completly frustrating any plans of IRON/G/RAZOR/Fate forces still try to offer any kind of resistance. 3) The 3 POS from IRON/G were reduced to reinforced mode by FE/5/Guristas fleet and IRON/G/Razor/Fate forces still lost some BS in skirmishes around the POS's Sounds about right. Quote: 4) Yesterday the IRON/G/Razor/Fate Forces managed to recover all the POS that were reduced to reinforced mode on the previous day. Some skirmishes occour but a big engament never took place. GIRFC PoS'es come out of reinforced at a convenient time for them and an unconvenient one for us and they manage to resupply them. Situation hasn't changed. F-E withdraws most of its presence from D7 and clean up the pipes while GIRFC gloats on the forum and recharges shields with 180 of their pilots in local. On a sidenote that will get lost in this whine and smackfest, CCP managed to invent pointless PoS wars part #2 now that you need fleets of 250 people to even think about attacking PoS'es and that's with no enemy fleet of meaning in local. Given that the servers can't handle those amounts I wish G and IRON good luck in their attempts to seize control of D7. [qupte] Week Conclusions: 1) IRON/G/RAZOR/FATE forces continue in D7-ZAC system 2) 5/FE managed to show a overwelming strenght during the week but failed to achive pratical results because the primary objectives werent achived: a) Destruction of the Iron/G POS's b) Destruction of Iron/G/Razor/Fate fleet Our primary goal was AFAIK, to not get any of the Gurista dreads killed cos that would have been quite nasty, I imagine. I'm not informed of the ins and outs of this cooperation but I dont think Gurista's like their dreads destroyed due to lack of our support. Anyway, your weekview is quite biased, but that might be a timezone thing. From, say, downtime to 1900 eve GIRFC dominates D7 and F-E and [5] go for quick ganks only and sit in PoS. Between 1900-2100 numbers are fairly even but usually the fights that occur kill the node and we fight with 5 minute module lag and pointlessly lose ships left and right. After 2100 GIRFC gets slightly outnumbered and sit and their PoS and play the game F-E and [5] play during the afternoon. Warp, gank, run. Then, from 2200 and onward D7 is 100% controlled by F-E, KAOS and The Five. This lasts until around downtime.
Mangus Thermopyle	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:46:00 - [325] I dont think I have ever seen so much whine from alts. G, grow a pair and atleast post with your main. You are making yourself look very silly. About the d7 situation: I am having a lot of fun, and I think most of us are. So why all this whine and crying?
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:46:00 - [326] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux GIRFC PoS'es come out of reinforced at a convenient time for them and an unconvenient one for us and they manage to resupply them. Situation hasn't changed. F-E withdraws most of its presence from D7 and clean up the pipes while GIRFC gloats on the forum and recharges shields with 180 of their pilots in local. Hehe yea middle of a working day realy suited us all im shure, funny tho cos when I was F-E they was also euro timezones as is .5. ?. Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Our primary goal was AFAIK, to not get any of the Gurista dreads killed cos that would have been quite nasty, I imagine. I'm not informed of the ins and outs of this cooperation but I dont think Gurista's like their dreads destroyed due to lack of our support. Yea this sounds right sorta what I said, its your war not gurista your ment to do the main work not them wile you support. Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Then from 2200 and onward D7 is 100% controlled by F-E, KAOS and The Five. This lasts until around downtime. hehe not last night a ?, the suspect involment of event team only annoyed us into action even more. Also doing it all wile the event team should have known the G pos was bugged is also suspect, that should have had GM attention before this so called event. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.24 15:50:00 - [327] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I dont think I have ever seen so much whine from alts. G, grow a pair and atleast post with your main. You are making yourself look very silly. About the d7 situation: I am having a lot of fun, and I think most of us are. So why all this whine and crying? I dont see much crying & wining, you might have known about the event team, noone our side did so its news to us so poeple have posted asking WTF ?. As you would to, hope we get 8 Caldri Navy dreads then we see whos wines ?. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Svett	Posted - 2006.03.24 16:20:00 - [328] Originally by: Well wicked Intresting, Someone count the Iron/G posters compared to the FE/5 and then ask who is whining.I think whining about whining is almost if not worse. Now the only pic I have seen of gang attacking pos showing actual numbers was 215.Even on that pic there is not that many pilots active on the POS.So at least we got decent numbr of who was atcive or alts etc. ty :) WW way to completely ignore the 2 pics i posted..just above your post
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 16:53:00 - [329] Edited by: Well wicked on 24/03/2006 16:55:55 Hey guys In with more facts.Just so we can see that this same pattern carries over to the other posts about this event or any post related.However these are jsut quick stats for this thread.An unbias look at who is the whiners.ok? This is quick glance at corps alliances posting in this thread.I did not even bother messing with alts or people without the tags.Unless it's clear they are with allaince exmpl. (Narfai) FE/5/KOAS posts I/G/RZR Page #'s ::: # of posts Page #'s ::: #of posts 1 ------- 10 ______________ 1 ------- 7 2 ------- 14 ______________ 2 ------- 0! 3 ------- 13 ______________ 3 ------- 2 4 ------- 10 ______________ 4 ------- 6 5 ------- 15!______________ 5 ------- 7 6 ------- 13 ______________ 6 ------- 9! 7 ------- 12 ______________ 7 ------- 2 8 ------- 18!______________ 8 ------- 2 9 ------- 14 ______________ 9 ------- 5 10 ------- 10 ______________ 10 ------- 6 11 ------- 12 ______________ 11 ------- 8 So as you can see even if you gave all even the 5/fe/koas alts n friends to I/G/R/F still wouldn't amount ot he whinign and forum spammage as 5 are.... think if we counted in their fan boi's alt and bob(they are bias it seems).So who exactly is crying??Also most I/G/R responses are personal attacks for questioning the event or telling peopel to stop smacking. What does this tell you EVE ?You can do your 5 style little propaganda bullshyt with alot of people;not me!If you look at the pattern of you posts it's like 4-6 fe/5 responses at a time for each one of iron or g's posts....sad and clear. It becomes clear more with every post about it from 5/FE.Iron and G I would say shut up now tbh.. that way they just look like "asshatz" (right context? [*** atuk guy]?)and carry on with it like always. WW
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 17:09:00 - [330] BTW sorry at work, nothing better to do now lol someone respond or I win WW
Cadman Weyland	Posted - 2006.03.24 17:10:00 - [331] Originally by: SinBin As you would to, hope we get 8 Caldri Navy dreads then we see whos wines ?. Thats Whines btw. But hey, if the Caldari Navy want to give us wine then im cool, make it red please Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.24 17:20:00 - [332] Originally by: Cadman Weyland Originally by: SinBin As you would to, hope we get 8 Caldri Navy dreads then we see whos wines ?. Thats Whines btw. But hey, if the Caldari Navy want to give us wine then im cool, make it red please Its also "who" not "whos" but then I dont give a ---- as you should know by now. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
DarkAlpha	Posted - 2006.03.24 18:25:00 - [333] Originally by: Shinoobie Originally by: Roule Edited by: Roule on 23/03/2006 01:27:34 Dont hate the players hate the game, there werent 350 event guys there, which is how many were in local and in gang chat. You dont like been outnumbered then you shouldnt play in another alliances space. Take your beatings like man and accept that it was the 340 F-E,KAOS, and -5- members that blew you away and not the 10 guristas Did I moan about being outnumbered? No Im trying to make the event more interesting :) YOU ARE UGLY No forgiveness with out bloodshed!
Lone Bear	Posted - 2006.03.24 19:04:00 - [334] Edited by: Lone Bear on 24/03/2006 19:04:17 12 pages for 2-3 POS put on reinforced modes... How many if those POS have been destroyed? You lost some strontium, some modules even, whined a lot, you refueled and resupplied those POS when RM ended. Took down 1 FE pos and now still 50% complaining 50% chest banging? Stop switching versions, it's kinda annoying. You still fail to see what happened anyway. Edit: typos
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 19:11:00 - [335] Hey guys, Did this last poster miss what I just typed?The numbers are clear.Now 5 etc. tell people to stop posting as clearly your the one's whining on this post and others liek it.It started with a question in this thread and a REPORT (need def.?) and plee to NPC's to AID your war targets and expand the story line or "Event".. not smack.. or whining. So stop the same old stupid omg stop whining posts ffs and grow hair on your balls.The stats i posted alone prove the fact your camp if anyone has been whining about something.So give it a break, OK? let it die, OK?or do you want the attention.. ofc. WW
Rytir	Posted - 2006.03.24 19:23:00 - [336] Gurista's 4tw or 4tl. Who cares? G/IRON/RZR/fate. are not in anyway set back in this campaign. infact all this has done is strenghen our resolve. watch out for another load of pos's coming to our new region soon Originally by: TheJay I went to MLM and all I got was this lousy alliance
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2006.03.24 19:43:00 - [337] Quote: watch out for another load of pos's coming to our new region soon Does this Molle imitation strike anyone as remotely funny at all? Watch what you say Ironboy, cos youir new region may very well be Lonetrek.
Rytir	Posted - 2006.03.24 19:44:00 - [338] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Quote: watch out for another load of pos's coming to our new region soon Does this Molle imitation strike anyone as remotely funny at all? Watch what you say Ironboy, cos youir new region may very well be Lonetrek. NO ONE CAN IMITATE SIR MOLLE. i'm just stating facts. Originally by: TheJay I went to MLM and all I got was this lousy alliance
Nikoko Usao	Posted - 2006.03.24 19:55:00 - [339] Originally by: Lone Bear Edited by: Lone Bear on 24/03/2006 19:04:17 12 pages for 2-3 POS put on reinforced modes... How many if those POS have been destroyed? You lost some strontium, some modules even, whined a lot, you refueled and resupplied those POS when RM ended. Took down 1 FE pos and now still 50% complaining 50% chest banging? Stop switching versions, it's kinda annoying. You still fail to see what happened anyway. Edit: typos Thats just missing the point. The point is that player event team people just have gone across - in this case - absolute clear borderline. By no means events from the event team should interfere with territorial war between alliances, period. If they do so, then this means nothing less, then every achievement in EVE politics accomplished is subject to pure arbitrariness and therefore pointless. It does not matter how the ratio between event dreadnoughts and player DNs were, one single event DN engaging a POS is just one too much. If their action is tolerated by the CCP staff, then this is just the end of the illusion of a persistent world. To my eyes, all the event people involved in this eclatant abuse of powers should get removed their status and at least temporarily get banned their main accounts.
Prydeless	Posted - 2006.03.24 20:05:00 - [340] Event teams shouldn't be involved in conflicts of alliances. Maybe a small fleet to go fight, but capital ships pounding a pos is wrong imho.
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.24 20:10:00 - [341] Preach on fellow EVE player base. Thanks for unbias opinions, :) WW
Vodalus	Posted - 2006.03.24 22:13:00 - [342] Originally by: Nikoko Usao Thats just missing the point. The point is that player event team people just have gone across - in this case - absolute clear borderline. By no means events from the event team should interfere with territorial war between alliances, period. If they do so, then this means nothing less, then every achievement in EVE politics accomplished is subject to pure arbitrariness and therefore pointless. It does not matter how the ratio between event dreadnoughts and player DNs were, one single event DN engaging a POS is just one too much. If their action is tolerated by the CCP staff, then this is just the end of the illusion of a persistent world. To my eyes, all the event people involved in this eclatant abuse of powers should get removed their status and at least temporarily get banned their main accounts. You tell 'em tiger! -------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Oveur EVE is primarily a PVP game
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.24 23:28:00 - [343] Here's my idea of what happened: "Guristas: hey let us test our dreads against your enemies, then we will fully assault them in their space" "5/FE : Sure" "Guristas: If you let us die you will have a fiery wrath upon you" "5/FE : OMG get everyone online" Thats my interpretation anyway. I Don't think I can count the number of posts 'hinting' towards a guristas invasion of the north on one hand. Hell if I get bored I'll quote them all here. I.E.: "barking up your back door" "You have no idea wahts coming to you" "I laugh when they don't know the true reason" Thats just off the top of my head too. Event wars are stupid imo, the enemy doesnt actually lose anything but meh, i have to go to work now. --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.24 23:36:00 - [344] Originally by: Hamatitio Here's my idea of what happened: "Guristas: hey let us test our dreads against your enemies, then we will fully assault them in their space" "5/FE : Sure" "Guristas: If you let us die you will have a fiery wrath upon you" "5/FE : OMG get everyone online" Pretty much correct, which is why events continued as they have. It also has future repercussions/rewards since we succeeded in our duty. This is why I don't know why some people got so bent out of shape. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
DeadProphet	Posted - 2006.03.25 00:09:00 - [345] I didn't read the vast majority of this thread, so i'll just reply to the subject matter rather than what happened later in the thread. I definatly sympathise with G/IRON here, its just not on when you are out there losing 'real' ships, fighting a 'real' war,which you worked hard to build/buy with your game time, and you find yourselves fighting people with free pimp ships, with mega skilled chars. occasional event = good interfering in a player conflict = bad
LordSlay Them	Posted - 2006.03.25 01:15:00 - [346] OMG guys, the point is not "oh we did not even get our buddies on even team to blow up your POSs just put them in reinforce mode..." Its the fact that they did it, they clearly chose their side and CHEATED yes, kick this whole account if you like mister eve boss dude. After this huge spout of bull** i dont really care, wtf happens next? Guristas and other NPCs gonna start taking over fouuking outposts and POSs all over 0.0, perhaps roam into empire and take stns out there? This is a whole buch of crap that should have never happened, I seriously hope the "guristas" get their heads out of their *** and let the "REAL PLAYERS" (you know, people that acctualy exist and are NOT gm's / event team ppl) fight the war. I should not even have to write this... This isn't smack, its my opinion. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9471/lordslay1zu.jpg Signature dimensions exceeds max 400x120 dimensions and 24,000 bytes filesize allowed. mail us if you have any questions -Eldo Davip
BellaMaria	Posted - 2006.03.25 03:57:00 - [347] Originally by: LordSlay Them OMG guys, the point is not "oh we did not even get our buddies on even team to blow up your POSs just put them in reinforce mode..." Its the fact that they did it, they clearly chose their side and CHEATED yes, kick this whole account if you like mister eve boss dude. After this huge spout of bull** i dont really care, wtf happens next? Guristas and other NPCs gonna start taking over fouuking outposts and POSs all over 0.0, perhaps roam into empire and take stns out there? This is a whole buch of crap that should have never happened, I seriously hope the "guristas" get their heads out of their *** and let the "REAL PLAYERS" (you know, people that acctualy exist and are NOT gm's / event team ppl) fight the war. I should not even have to write this... This isn't smack, its my opinion. You are a complete fool. This isn't smack, its my opinion.
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.25 10:14:00 - [348] Hey, Your the fool for even attempting to say that guy is.He can type his opinion in the box and hit post without some muppet spamimg OMG****INNOOBIE?? or what?It's his opinion along with a big part of the EVE player base that this was not ok.Mine opinion stands firm there also. The funniest thing is that it backed fired badly and that 300+ fleet of military power 5/fe so simply manned never showed back up to finish the job.Props to the POS managers of the other team that kept the right fuel in the pos's to keep them going.Unlike your reasons for losing pos's.Tthe "omg, so what you killed a pos cuzz the fuel wasn't in it" excuse.. lol thats your retort FE/5.Thats like saying.. bah I lost the fight cuzz I suck at fitting my ship properly;but using it as an excuse to make the kill no legit. So, the fact that I/G/R po's are still there don't make what happened any different.Peopel give theri opininos and I have seen 5/fe/k jump down each persons throat for stating their opinions.Is it that ahrd to hear people think it was wrong?really? WW
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.25 10:25:00 - [349] WW you simply dont know what really went on so crawl back into your hole and logon your iron main
Balazs Simon	Posted - 2006.03.25 10:34:00 - [350] this thread still alive ?? sniff - POST WITH YOUR MAIN! This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. -
Roule	Posted - 2006.03.25 10:50:00 - [351] Originally by: Well wicked Hey, Your the fool for even attempting to say that guy is.He can type his opinion in the box and hit post without some muppet spamimg OMG****INNOOBIE?? or what?It's his opinion along with a big part of the EVE player base that this was not ok.Mine opinion stands firm there also. The funniest thing is that it backed fired badly and that 300+ fleet of military power 5/fe so simply manned never showed back up to finish the job.Props to the POS managers of the other team that kept the right fuel in the pos's to keep them going.Unlike your reasons for losing pos's.Tthe "omg, so what you killed a pos cuzz the fuel wasn't in it" excuse.. lol thats your retort FE/5.Thats like saying.. bah I lost the fight cuzz I suck at fitting my ship properly;but using it as an excuse to make the kill no legit. So, the fact that I/G/R po's are still there don't make what happened any different.Peopel give theri opininos and I have seen 5/fe/k jump down each persons throat for stating their opinions.Is it that ahrd to hear people think it was wrong?really? WW Love people that dont have the balls to post with there main. And 8 FE Battle POSs to úg/Iron POS, i think the system is safe for a long time
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:00:00 - [352] Sadly this is my main, I transfered this account and he is a implanted cloaned pod pilot.Training at it's best.I will be joining a major corp soon, with info of skills and screen shots.Until then I guess I have to put up with some "omgstfualt" and I understand that.Coming back to the game has it's ups and downs. Also my points are back and white.Again you can tell how you guys are aligned do to your 1 line replys and qouting a whole post...5/FE/.I'm not iron, but comapred to the whining you are doing guys I would be honored to fly with them some day.5/FE/K are the spammers.. mostly FE/5 simple fact. stats are there...I psoted them in black and white.Now either reply with balls and retort...or stfu and save us all replying in this thread to pwn you. WW
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:01:00 - [353] Further to my posts earlier: Col. Jessep: You want answers? Kaffee: I think I'm entitled. Col. Jessep: You want answers? Kaffee: I want the truth. Col. Jessep: You can't handle the truth.
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.25 11:56:00 - [354] Originally by: Well wicked Sadly this is my main, I transfered this account and he is a implanted cloaned pod pilot.Training at it's best.I will be joining a major corp soon, with info of skills and screen shots.Until then I guess I have to put up with some "omgstfualt" and I understand that.Coming back to the game has it's ups and downs. WW And there are no us infidels in iraq
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.25 12:06:00 - [355] again qoute. one line post thanx for keepin your qouta up. WW
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.03.25 12:10:00 - [356] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Quote: watch out for another load of pos's coming to our new region soon Does this Molle imitation strike anyone as remotely funny at all? Watch what you say Ironboy, cos youir new region may very well be Lonetrek. Will you push em to lonetrek using plated raxes ? ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.25 12:14:00 - [357] Originally by: Well wicked again qoute. one line post thanx for keepin your qouta up. WW /care
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.25 12:49:00 - [358] Still no news to match this so called event then ?. My suspect side assumes there still trying to make something up, dreads have been long since tested so thats bull. I think event should also stay away from real player conflicts but if they must then both sides should get a turn, I dont see how anyone cant aggree with that, CCP ?. Lets get Caldri Navy to contact G, Iron, Rzr or Fate soon a ccp. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.25 14:05:00 - [359] Originally by: SinBin Still no news to match this so called event then ?. You not been reading the thread? This wasn't the event... Originally by: SinBin My suspect side assumes there still trying to make something up, dreads have been long since tested so thats bull. Yeah, and your "suspect side" is always infallible, eh.... Originally by: SinBin I think event should also stay away from real player conflicts but if they must then both sides should get a turn, I dont see how anyone cant aggree with that, CCP ?. Lets get Caldri Navy to contact G, Iron, Rzr or Fate soon a ccp. If you lot can bring yourselves to compromise your obviously enormous principles, a little thought should perhaps leadt to the idea that your event would be with the serps... ____________________________________________
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.25 14:21:00 - [360] Edited by: SengH on 25/03/2006 14:22:26 Originally by: SinBin Still no news to match this so called event then ?. My suspect side assumes there still trying to make something up, dreads have been long since tested so thats bull. I think event should also stay away from real player conflicts but if they must then both sides should get a turn, I dont see how anyone cant aggree with that, CCP ?. Lets get Caldri Navy to contact G, Iron, Rzr or Fate soon a ccp. From what I've been hearing, that might very well happen as the Caldari Navy will probably not tolerate what might be comming . Yet legally they are unable to enter 0.0 space. Other pieces might need to fall into place first. Let aurora do their work and sit back and enjoy the story. Edit Zzzat: They cant, Serps are allied with .5. after the Titan. They wont side with G/Iron against us.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.25 14:26:00 - [361] Originally by: SengH Edited by: SengH on 25/03/2006 14:22:26 Edit Zzzat: They cant, Serps are allied with .5. after the Titan. They wont side with G/Iron against us. Yeh, [5] always side with the npc factions.... n00bs.
Aegis Osiris	Posted - 2006.03.25 14:26:00 - [362] I wasn't going to bother posting, but its just too funny. Wick boy, the reason you get one line answers is that you haven't earned a better response. By your own admission, you aren't involved in this conflict. You aren't there fighting, hell you aren't even in space spectating. Your an armchair quarterback. You expect the folks actually in the game to spend time arguing with someone whose only source of info is whats posted on this forum?? Sorry, but thats trolling, by any definition. Have a trollific day. OR, get in a ship and roll up to Tribute, and we'll be happy to give you a warm and friendly embrace ________________________________________________ This thread does not exist
General Hansen	Posted - 2006.03.25 15:06:00 - [363] The General does not approve this thread.
LordSlay Them	Posted - 2006.03.25 15:39:00 - [364] AG, wick boy may be an armchair quaterback, but you are the 13 year old 350lb.kid living in your mom's basement playing EVE. You people who talk all this S**t really get me fired up, i just wish RL was` like this so i could take my anger out physicly BTW, i still have not heard an excuse on the dread thing...doubt i will either, figures. OH ya, this is my main. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9471/lordslay1zu.jpg Signature dimensions exceeds max 400x120 dimensions and 24,000 bytes filesize allowed. mail us if you have any questions -Eldo Davip
Chilli Pepper	Posted - 2006.03.25 16:51:00 - [365] Edited by: Chilli Pepper on 25/03/2006 16:53:42 Originally by: LordSlay Them AG, wick boy may be an armchair quaterback, but you are the 13 year old 350lb.kid living in your mom's basement playing EVE. You people who talk all this S**t really get me fired up, i just wish RL was` like this so i could take my anger out physicly BTW, i still have not heard an excuse on the dread thing...doubt i will either, figures. OH ya, this is my main. Very nice, real life threats and insults sure makes you look tough. I'm pretty sure that since you are such brave soul talking crap on the forums, you must be talking from experience when talking about 13 year old, 350 pound punk living in mommies basement. You are a true tough guy and IRON has a real asset in you. You should set your forum setting to show the name of your corp and alliance, so that they can also be proud of you.
Wizie	Posted - 2006.03.25 16:56:00 - [366] Originally by: LordSlay Them AG, wick boy may be an armchair quaterback, but you are the 13 year old 350lb.kid living in your mom's basement playing EVE. You people who talk all this S**t really get me fired up, i just wish RL was` like this so i could take my anger out physicly BTW, i still have not heard an excuse on the dread thing...doubt i will either, figures. OH ya, this is my main. Rofl @ LordSlay Them Synergy [S.Y.N] IRON Brilliant post right there. I think this guy even beats Kalened as the forum moron from IRON.
Plague Black	Posted - 2006.03.25 17:15:00 - [367] In my village we have same name for all events of this kind - Exploits. Ok now you can kill me for telling the truth... errrr... flamming... err... flamming the truth
SinBin	Posted - 2006.03.25 17:42:00 - [368] Edited by: SinBin on 25/03/2006 17:43:23 Originally by: SengH Yet legally they are unable to enter 0.0 space. A bit off topic but how does legal & 0.0 go together ? or is it there own law, wouldnt susprise me Caldari aint known for there brains. Dunno what your on about Zz so wont bother responding, still any 8 dreads will do & we show ya how they should be used. Originally by: Plague Black In my village we have same name for all events of this kind - Exploits. Ok now you can kill me for telling the truth... errrr... flamming... err... flamming the truth Carfull man the big O will popup soon & threated to ban us all we start talking truth. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Balazs Simon	Posted - 2006.03.25 17:57:00 - [369] Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Quote: watch out for another load of pos's coming to our new region soon Does this Molle imitation strike anyone as remotely funny at all? Watch what you say Ironboy, cos youir new region may very well be Lonetrek. Will you push em to lonetrek using plated raxes ? Plated RAX 4tw - POST WITH YOUR MAIN! This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. -
LordSlay Them	Posted - 2006.03.25 18:53:00 - [370] Call me what you will, i happen to be 155 lb BTW. I am no asset to IRON whatsoever, i'm sure they honestly dont care about me and that is not the point. Even if I were the 5 or F-E it would still ** me off. Why? Why would I be ed off to have unlimited help from the event team... Geee, maybe because its cheating and a bunch of bull. I'm just gonna drop it now because there is nothing more I can do besides express my opinion and kick some 5/f-e * in tribute. Good luck in the threads, look forward to alot more empty threats 5/F-E. See ya all on the battlefield (hopefully WITHOUT the event team eh?) http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9471/lordslay1zu.jpg Signature dimensions exceeds max 400x120 dimensions and 24,000 bytes filesize allowed. mail us if you have any questions -Eldo Davip
Chilli Pepper	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:09:00 - [371] Originally by: LordSlay Them Call me what you will, i happen to be 155 lb BTW. I am no asset to IRON whatsoever, i'm sure they honestly dont care about me and that is not the point. Even if I were the 5 or F-E it would still ** me off. Why? Why would I be ed off to have unlimited help from the event team... Geee, maybe because its cheating and a bunch of bull. I'm just gonna drop it now because there is nothing more I can do besides express my opinion and kick some 5/f-e * in tribute. Good luck in the threads, look forward to alot more empty threats 5/F-E. See ya all on the battlefield (hopefully WITHOUT the event team eh?) You are in need of some therapy, because if a game makes you so mad that you are threatening physical violence, then you need to be on medication.
Gabriel BriGGs	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:41:00 - [372] From news item... " leaving the final task of destroying the towers to the F-E and combined forces. " LOLOLOOLOLOL Doesn't look like that happend :\ --------------------------------------------
Abend	Posted - 2006.03.25 19:58:00 - [373] Originally by: Gabriel BriGGs From news item... " leaving the final task of destroying the towers to the F-E and combined forces. " LOLOLOOLOLOL Doesn't look like that happend :\ Do you consider that a victory for you, because your POSes did not get destroyed? Quite an accomplishment.
Cluadius	Posted - 2006.03.25 21:05:00 - [374] HAHA, rats took down a POS in 0.0. Then they say it was the event team, then the other side confirms it, then changes their tactics to say it was not, then blah blah. the 5 need help guys, give them a break, i would hate to be comprised of noobs too.
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.25 22:59:00 - [375] There is now a nwes item for the event, when you login to Eve. Doesn't appear to have made the main site yet though. Looks like there could be reprecussions though...

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2006.03.25 23:02:00 - [376] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Doesn't appear to have made the main site yet though. Try here See me here

Raffael Ramirez	Posted - 2006.03.25 23:12:00 - [377] Originally by: Eris Discordia Originally by: FireFoxx80 Doesn't appear to have made the main site yet though. Try here Are you serious about this ? Player alliances get NPC reinforcements ? Don¦t think thats the right way to go .
Gusar Mora	Posted - 2006.03.25 23:55:00 - [378] I think this is a pathetic attempt, which disadnavtages real players in eve. from the news artickle .5. and f-e could only mount 4 player dreads, but hey how about you just add another 8 npc ones to do their job, which means now there is 12. I think its unfair and stupid for NPC to change the balance of the game in this way. I am disapointed CCP hardout.
Franky B	Posted - 2006.03.26 00:27:00 - [379] Edited by: Franky B on 26/03/2006 00:27:15 yesterday afternoon before luncheons and scotch biscuits, memobers of the IRANFROMMINERS (Iron Reconnisance and Assault Negotiaions For Relations outside Mainstream Mediums Including NPC Entities Residing in Space) division began intensive talks with non aligned factions from an unexplored region of space. as a result of these talks , Iron has aquired key assets to continue its push into tribute. be warned eveians, this faction bites...
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.26 00:37:00 - [380] Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it, it's coming soon for good. --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Martin Mckenna	Posted - 2006.03.26 00:52:00 - [381] Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it, it's coming soon for good. it would be welcome if it was kali m8...but oh...it aint
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.26 01:01:00 - [382] Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Sir Godfrey	Posted - 2006.03.26 01:08:00 - [383] were is my medal then for alignin to guristas
Kalissa	Posted - 2006.03.26 01:17:00 - [384] In my honest opinion there are some things CCP should stay the hell out of, and supplementing an already powerful fleet with 8 Phoenix dreads is one of them, storyline or not when CCP start popping peoples equipment it's a bad day for Eve. It's a very slippery slope this is, people work hard to get the equipment to deploy in 0.0, if it's destroyed by another player/alliance then fine. But when CCP spawn 8 Dreads and go in there to destroy PLAYER owned equipment then CCP have taken the first step to truely ruining 0.0 for a lot of people. Yeah I'm ****ed, the person in Aurora who came up with this needs his/her head examining.
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.26 01:18:00 - [385] comon people, lets think here instead of intentionally being stupid as hell. Try reading the first sentence: "Show your allegiance" Any half-intelegent person could logically deduct that this is referring to aligning with NPC factions. Past week's occurance, then, is simply CCP starting to set this up. Wouldnt be suprised if this happens more often soon as patch day comes closer. --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
David Godfrey	Posted - 2006.03.26 01:19:00 - [386] I call for all leaders of the Serpentis and Angel armys to band together and ridd the north of guristas for good....They can take our pos's they can rob us all they want but they will never take our freeeedooom!!!!!!! ----------- Would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance just one chance, to come back here as young men and tell our enemies that they may take our lives but they
DoZ3r	Posted - 2006.03.26 01:20:00 - [387] Time to deploy the Suicide Squad
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.26 02:24:00 - [388] Actually its totally different. Factional warfare is joining a corporation like "Caldari Navy" and going and killing those allied with "Guristas". As you kill more you get a higher ranking. Not Guristas magically spawning 8 dreads in a system with max skills doing more damage than the 320 man FE fleet. But thats just my opinion. --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
SengH	Posted - 2006.03.26 02:46:00 - [389] Originally by: David Godfrey I call for all leaders of the Serpentis and Angel armys to band together and ridd the north of guristas for good....They can take our pos's they can rob us all they want but they will never take our freeeedooom!!!!!!! Angel Cartel is already allied with ASCN AFAIK and Serps have stated their with us. I highly doubt ASCN feels bad about G POSes being shot at by Guristas.
David Godfrey	Posted - 2006.03.26 02:50:00 - [390] Then there is no choice left but to call a emergency meeting with the joint security staff to call in help from the JOVIANS prepare to feel the wrath of the almighty ones judgement day will be upon thee!!! ----------- They may take our lives but they will never take our freedom!
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:01:00 - [391] Quote: Factional warfare is joining a corporation like "Caldari Navy" and going and killing those allied with "Guristas". As you kill more you get a higher ranking. Not Guristas magically spawning 8 dreads in a system with max skills doing more damage than the 320 man FE fleet. But thats just my opinion. Can you post a link to where devs said this for me to check out? I was of the impression that it ment that players can side with NPC factions to fight vs other NPC factions. That, though, was just my deductions from the info I've seen, as I havent found any detailed explainations yet. --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:09:00 - [392] My deductions are different. To my knowledge none of you received a medal for 'helping' them did you? --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:11:00 - [393] why are medals mandatory? --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Dalilah	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:54:00 - [394] So named "Guristas" can increase a war efficiency against G/IRON very much if next time will spawn 8 dreads for each claiming POS around Fade, Deklein and Cloud Ring stations. And don't forget eve-mail to .5., F-E, KAOS leaders about exact time of the reinforce mode finish that "corps de ballet" will not arrived too late for the battle Simply a shame to see that people searching the justifications for a broken fairplay in "Kali features" Go G! Go IRON! --- Ohhh... No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering
Dorah Hawkwing	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:57:00 - [395] People.. from my experience DMing on another online game, I can just tell you one little detail: People/groups who complain too much about event DMing usually have to waita very long time before they get positive attention from events (eg: events happening for them), as DM's are only people too.
Moonlight Express	Posted - 2006.03.26 04:30:00 - [396] I just hope that there's an event that benefits G and IRON soon, because there's going to be some major payback whining on the forums and we'll see how the same people that are crying now, will be defendig the event when it benefits them.
Dalilah	Posted - 2006.03.26 04:35:00 - [397] Originally by: Dorah Hawkwing DM's are only people too. They are overpowered people and must to be very careful, tolerant and neutral for all sides that take a part in the events and don't break gameplay for hundreds of players. Are we saw that during this event? I'm not sure We have experience to take a part in the "undeclared event" with the True Power. I think simply guys from Aurora were bored and start to threaten us as Sansha residents. Then their 2 Nightmare и Phantasm were spawned during a hot battle between SA and SE. Very funny surprise, isn't it? --- Ohhh... No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering
Aegis Osiris	Posted - 2006.03.26 04:54:00 - [398] Good grief. How can so many people, even those involved, completely MISS THE POINT. So many have stated 'its unfair for an NPC group to magically spawn dreads and DESTROY PLAYERS' PRECIOUS POS's. Which POS's, exactly, were DESTROYED by the Guristas?? Do you think the event staff were blind? Were they simply complete morons? Did they not ALSO see the timers for reinforced mode? If they had wanted to DESTROY those pos's, wouldnt they have SHOWN UP THE NEXT DAY???? The mixed fleet ITSELF was the event, NOT any perceived goal. NO PLAYER EQUIPMENT WAS HARMED DURING THIS EVENT. It cost G/IRON some time recharging. It cost FE/5 BS's, lost to the POS guns themselves, and the ammo spent. Pretty even frackin' trade, don't you think? If you STILL can't see this, then please follow these simple directions: 1. Unplug your keyboard 2. Smack yourself in the forehead with a ball pien hammer a few times. 2 or 3 good wacks should do it. 3. Plug the keyboard back in, and reread. 4. If it still don't make sense, rinse and repeat until understanding or a comatose state are reached...whichever comes first P.S. Lordslay Them, you seem like an angry young man. Can I give you a hug? ________________________________________________ This thread does not exist
Kantar	Posted - 2006.03.26 08:59:00 - [399] erm.....14 pages and counting.......... Too much whining and complains pls refer to my office.
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:14:00 - [400] WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Shirei	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:25:00 - [401] Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'?
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:31:00 - [402] Edited by: ZedLey on 26/03/2006 09:31:14 Originally by: Shirei Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'? You cant let go can you
Shirei	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:34:00 - [403] Yay, flames irrelevant to the post they're replying to 4tw.
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:36:00 - [404] Originally by: Shirei Yay, flames irrelevant to the post they're replying to 4tw. You missed my point but whatever
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:51:00 - [405] Edited by: Darko1107 on 26/03/2006 09:54:34 I LOVE the news item, i swear they tried to make it into a comedy. First paragraph, all entity's are hyperlinked apart from IRON/G. Quote: leaving the final task of destroying the towers to the F-E and combined forces. Woops. Quote: Reports indicate that F-E leadership had met with Gurista negotiator Pel Reton, and that a mutual agreement had been reached, Pel Reton: HOW DARE YOU CONVO ME AFTER YOU KILL MY PILOTS NIGHT AFTER NIGHT. F-E Leader: Errmmm..... Yeh sorry about that mate, lack of communication, we had the wrong standings set. Pel Reton: I just lost another about 2 minutes ago, oh and another 1, and another 1. Just cant stop my stupid pilots getting ganked in belts :\. F-E Leader: Cumon, cant we look past the fact that we kill your pilots daily and will continue to do so and just work together to kill the people that are trying to remove us(f-e) from our space? Pel Reton: Sure where do u want our 8 dreads? Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. I think ccp are probly wondering why aswell..... Quote: bellowing "Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighbourhood? I needed to shoot something." Yeh... just a nice play in the neighbourhood, risk some lives, take our most expensive ships... take on some heavily armed POS's for 6 hours just sitting there shooting. All in the name of FUN! Wait, POS shooting is fun? Quote: F-E ranking officer, Naphtalia, simply rehashed Helmatt's statement; "They need to come through this system to move between Empire and their home systems. Having Hostile forces blocking D7 is unacceptable." Ofcourse... i mean there would never be any F-E shooting at Gurista pilots along these routes.... Might aswell have just made a statement: "I R TEH NAPHTALIA, I LIE ALOT, THANKYOU." Comedy legends from all over will look at this peice as inspiration, something to look up to.
Gradinger	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:06:00 - [406] its really gettin boring now, and you¦re running out of arguments - sry
WildCard	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:24:00 - [407] Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--
Kaleeb	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:30:00 - [408] Its a game....jees you should all be greatful that there are now a few less pos's ingame player vs pos player vs player I know which one i prefer
Twoside	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:34:00 - [409] Edited by: Twoside on 26/03/2006 10:34:23 edit: nm actually, didnt read all mandatory 14 pages :)
Majaraw Awalabas	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:45:00 - [410] Edited by: Majaraw Awalabas on 26/03/2006 10:50:52 CCP interests Gallente Elections sorry, the what? You guys seriously still thinking about that? Sarum heir dudes, she's probably not dead man! Why get hung up! Amarr emperor Bah who needs an emperor for EVEs largest empire... Tetrimon event Uh yeah they uh smack in Amarr channel.. preparing us for the return of a unified Empire.. or something... wait... its a year since the documents were moved? Flying around in dreadnaughts you get handed free on leet characters you don't need to train for Yes! Oh yes! Can't you just feel how much we care for the storyline!
Joerd Toastius	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:48:00 - [411] Bad 2s :P Seriously though. I don't see any way of reading the "AURORA shouldn't have got involved at all" argument as not boiling down to "RP should be consensual". People have even outright stated that G/IRON should've been informed OOC. I can see the argument that there shouldn't be NPC alliances in 0.0 in the first place - I disagree with it, but I can see it from the "Pure PvPer" perspective. However, given that they are there, in any game claiming to have RP elements you're going to have to accept that their presence there has consequences, and that those consequences may not be to your liking. And seriously, step back for a second. Take a deep breath. And compare the arguments here to that other great "consensual" debate - "should PvP be consensual?". Not only are they structurally similar, but I suspect you'll find that many of the arguments that work for each side in one work for the same side in the other. For those of you angry about AURORA here - that anger is the same anger that carebears feel when you gank them - "a bigger kid came along and hit me no fair!". Show a little consistency, please? On a side note, while the fact of pilots hitting Guristas patrols etc fits in RP terms, the numbers killed do not. In reality the Guristas would have a navy of maybe thousands, but they wouldn't have anything like the numbers of hardware or crew (remember, every BS you hit has a couple of thousand people onboard) that spawn in the belts. In the same way that the mission system doesn't really mean in IC terms that the governor's daughter really got kidnapped every 10 seconds, or that your faction of choice really had that many informants needing silencing, so spawn-killing doesn't really mean in IC terms that a million or so Guristas ships are destroyed every day. They're there for gameplay reasons, but you have to make allowances in IC terms. A good starting point would be to only count kills which give you a sec status boost as "real" in IC terms, as that generates a half-way acceptable number of kills.
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:06:00 - [412] Originally by: Shirei Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'? PWNED!!!!!! :)
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:16:00 - [413] Edited by: Sir JoJo on 26/03/2006 11:16:16 Thread has run its course Click Edit: ups wasent the gm/forum mod acc Bringing pain to a place near you
Tholarim	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:27:00 - [414] Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet.
Turkantho	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:30:00 - [415] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet. bring it ontopic: can we lock this dreadful thread now please ? ________ As[G]ard
Crellion	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:28:00 - [416] Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 26/03/2006 09:54:34 I LOVE the news item, i swear they tried to make it into a comedy. First paragraph, all entity's are hyperlinked apart from IRON/G. Quote: leaving the final task of destroying the towers to the F-E and combined forces. Woops. Quote: Reports indicate that F-E leadership had met with Gurista negotiator Pel Reton, and that a mutual agreement had been reached, Pel Reton: HOW DARE YOU CONVO ME AFTER YOU KILL MY PILOTS NIGHT AFTER NIGHT. F-E Leader: Errmmm..... Yeh sorry about that mate, lack of communication, we had the wrong standings set. Pel Reton: I just lost another about 2 minutes ago, oh and another 1, and another 1. Just cant stop my stupid pilots getting ganked in belts :\. F-E Leader: Cumon, cant we look past the fact that we kill your pilots daily and will continue to do so and just work together to kill the people that are trying to remove us(f-e) from our space? Pel Reton: Sure where do u want our 8 dreads? Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. I think ccp are probly wondering why aswell..... Quote: bellowing "Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighbourhood? I needed to shoot something." Yeh... just a nice play in the neighbourhood, risk some lives, take our most expensive ships... take on some heavily armed POS's for 6 hours just sitting there shooting. All in the name of FUN! Wait, POS shooting is fun? Quote: F-E ranking officer, Naphtalia, simply rehashed Helmatt's statement; "They need to come through this system to move between Empire and their home systems. Having Hostile forces blocking D7 is unacceptable." Ofcourse... i mean there would never be any F-E shooting at Gurista pilots along these routes.... Might aswell have just made a statement: "I R TEH NAPHTALIA, I LIE ALOT, THANKYOU." Comedy legends from all over will look at this peice as inspiration, something to look up to. I think Darko is liek my enemy in the big scheme of thinks but this is one funny post. Good job
Hast	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:52:00 - [417] Originally by: Pepperami Quoting loads of text then adding one line sucks. like you just did? Recruit me
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:54:00 - [418] Originally by: Hast like you just did? Dude, Irony pwns. [Art of War][- V -]
Hast	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:58:00 - [419] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Hast like you just did? Dude, Irony pwns. pretending you dont get irony even moreso Recruit me
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.26 14:37:00 - [420] Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet. bring it
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:12:00 - [421] Originally by: ZedLey Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet. bring it Originally by: Commander Nikolas People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS. Antipiracy is causing brain damage
Xthril Ranger	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:21:00 - [422] The only way to stop a 300+ fleet from destroying your pos is to take out enough dreadnoughts to make the attackers withdraw before the losses are to heavy to bear. The ATUK/F-E fleet have withdrawn from a pos attack while outnumbering the defenders 3-1 to save their fleet before. But this time most of the dreadnoughts where actor spawned and the actors got nothing to loose and would never retreat. So the actors presence removed the best chance for G/IRON of defending the pos. The only other option was to bring a much larger fleet and hold the battlefield by superior fighting force (something they obvously wasnt up to?). I think it is unfair to G/IRON to complain that they didnt engage when they all they could hope for was to kill some dreadnoughts that would despawn at the end of the battle anyway. you'll never jump alone
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:33:00 - [423] Originally by: Xthril Ranger The only way to stop a 300+ fleet from destroying your pos is to take out enough dreadnoughts to make the attackers withdraw before the losses are to heavy to bear. The ATUK/F-E fleet have withdrawn from a pos attack while outnumbering the defenders 3-1 to save their fleet before. But this time most of the dreadnoughts where actor spawned and the actors got nothing to loose and would never retreat. So the actors presence removed the best chance for G/IRON of defending the pos. The only other option was to bring a much larger fleet and hold the battlefield by superior fighting force (something they obvously wasnt up to?). I think it is unfair to G/IRON to complain that they didnt engage when they all they could hope for was to kill some dreadnoughts that would despawn at the end of the battle anyway. There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:34:00 - [424] Originally by: TURBOman Originally by: Xthril Ranger The only way to stop a 300+ fleet from destroying your pos is to take out enough dreadnoughts to make the attackers withdraw before the losses are to heavy to bear. The ATUK/F-E fleet have withdrawn from a pos attack while outnumbering the defenders 3-1 to save their fleet before. But this time most of the dreadnoughts where actor spawned and the actors got nothing to loose and would never retreat. So the actors presence removed the best chance for G/IRON of defending the pos. The only other option was to bring a much larger fleet and hold the battlefield by superior fighting force (something they obvously wasnt up to?). I think it is unfair to G/IRON to complain that they didnt engage when they all they could hope for was to kill some dreadnoughts that would despawn at the end of the battle anyway. There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- yupp was nicely done and we learned out of it the hard way -------------------------------- I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need.
Xthril Ranger	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:40:00 - [425] Originally by: TURBOman There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- I don't doubt that you can handle them. I was just trying to say that I think it was unfair that actors removed the best chance of defending a smaller fleet have and that they didnt deserve any smack for not engaging that night. you'll never jump alone
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.03.26 15:42:00 - [426] Originally by: Xthril Ranger Originally by: TURBOman There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- I don't doubt that you can handle them. I was just trying to say that I think it was unfair that actors removed the best chance of defending a smaller fleet have and that they didnt deserve any smack for not engaging that night. Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
WildCard	Posted - 2006.03.26 16:20:00 - [427] Well loosing a Dread may happen when you use your own ones. However was a nice fight. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--
Astarte Nosferatu	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:04:00 - [428] Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Originally by: Santiago Cortes Thread has gone wildly off-topic, flamebait and little desire on anyone's part to read what anyone else has written. Member of the [23]
Yuzier OA	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:11:00 - [429] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Yeah because the 5 and Bob which are all secretly GM's Have decided we dont like you very much and do you want some cheese with the whine
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:43:00 - [430] Edited by: Sir JoJo on 26/03/2006 17:43:56 Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Advanced Whinnig 5 FTL Bringing pain to a place near you
csebal	Posted - 2006.03.26 17:58:00 - [431] Originally by: Xthril Ranger Originally by: TURBOman There were some f-e dreads there aswell, and today we were heavily outnumbered in d7 and managed to stop GIRON attack anyways whilist killing off one of their dreads -_- I don't doubt that you can handle them. I was just trying to say that I think it was unfair that actors removed the best chance of defending a smaller fleet have and that they didnt deserve any smack for not engaging that night. Thats kinda short sighted on many levels. 1) There were FE dreads to target as well. The reason they were unwilling to bring their fleet in was not the lack of targets, but the next to zero chance to achieve anything with it. We could easily park our BSes next to the dreads at all times, and sure it popped a few, but the big majority of them survived. With that many ships, the POS fire is simply too dispersed to do any good even to a BS. I spent literally hours there without even being fired on by the POS. Sure i got scrambled once or twice, but as there was noone to shoot, it meant nothing. 2) People would have a reason to compalin about the Gurista dreads, if they would have managed to down one, instead of an FE one. Then they would have the moral highground to say, that we used them to shield our own ones. Fact is, that no dread died there, for the reasons outlined above. 3) IF they would have killed a Gurista dread somehow, we would have been in very deep **. It was made clear to us, that we better not loose any of the supporting Gurista fleet... Guess what, the guristas do not take losing ships because of their allies lightly. I think, that everybody with some creativity would have seen the opportunity to turn an unstabile entity like the Gurista pirates against us, while at the same time reinforcing their complaints about us hiding behind the NPC ships. What happened instead is history already. Nothing worth debating about that. bottomline: I do not blame G/IRON for not jumping in to defend their POSes. They were well aware, that the POSes will most probably survive anyway: clever play with the reinforced timer there. What i do not like is that people pretend us to be hiding behind NPC ships, when in reality those could have been our own as well, and we would have lost the exactly same ammount of dreads in the engagement. Still, congrats to G/IRON on their actual POS kills. It is easy to take a POS into reinforced mode, as you can choose the time of attack. The tricky part comes when you try to finish it off... G/IRON still leads in that i'm afraid. Btw: i suggest reading the alliance news about what happened. It gives some insight on the why and how part. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe.**
Archonon	Posted - 2006.03.26 19:13:00 - [432] Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.26 20:54:00 - [433] Originally by: Well wicked Originally by: Shirei Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'? PWNED!!!!!! :) WTF, if that's ir misguided idea of pwned, u r a pleb, no doubt's, what a crap argument, truly and woefully pathetic. You quote from 1 flippin page, what about the other 13 or whatever, constant whine and it's just plain silly. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
machinis fit	Posted - 2006.03.26 21:49:00 - [434] I heard G lost a dreadnaught today, is this true?? can someone in G confirm this??
Endeva	Posted - 2006.03.26 21:59:00 - [435] Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance omg stay away from forum boy gurista didnt send 200 npc they send 6 dreads or 8? and there were 321 in our gang witouth them so 8 dread means nothing to us when you have gang consisting of 190 BS and couple of fe dreads and carriers. and you were outnumbered in south because every time when atuk jumps in local 2/3 of your carebering alliances members log off. Please resize your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques
Steven McWayne	Posted - 2006.03.26 22:55:00 - [436] In Kali arent any 0.0 spaces anymore, all is empire, claimed by the npcs factions ;P
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.26 23:09:00 - [437] Edited by: Vince Draken on 26/03/2006 23:09:15 Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance lolz Remember when Shinra and M Corp wanted to have a region? Regreting your arrogance yet are we? The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Chilli Pepper	Posted - 2006.03.26 23:43:00 - [438] Originally by: Vince Draken Edited by: Vince Draken on 26/03/2006 23:09:15 Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance lolz Remember when Shinra and M Corp wanted to have a region? Regreting your arrogance yet are we? Maybe they can ask NBSI, PA or FE for help again. Ops. Maybe not.
WOTANKN	Posted - 2006.03.27 00:00:00 - [439] hiho yes G loss a dread my moros in the ass next 1 pleas
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.03.27 01:30:00 - [440] Originally by: machinis fit I heard G lost a dreadnaught today, is this true?? can someone in G confirm this?? Yes. In a failed attempt to destroy an FE pos in d7 G lost a dread + a number of bs and support.
BellaMaria	Posted - 2006.03.27 01:44:00 - [441] Originally by: Archonon Originally by: TURBOman Well tbh f-e/.5. was outnumbered badly for 2-3 days before that day. So that is the reason for such big numbers. Sadly for GIRON most of them took a break that day as it seems, and that is the reason they were so heavily outnumbered. We are largely outnumbered in the south (1 vs 3) could u ask to arch angel to send a 200 npcs ' fleet plz? Thanks in advance After the way you lost the last 6 dreads (was it?), I doubt even suicidal npcs would support you with dreads.
fuze	Posted - 2006.03.27 01:44:00 - [442] That vid gots nice music.
madhapee	Posted - 2006.03.27 03:44:00 - [443] lol everybody goes nuts over that music. You spend a couple of hours of your life trying to stop an enemy invasion and all people say is : wow that video has cool music :) lol I guess it is really good I like it too! GF to all involved today on both sides. Nice show from IRON/G/RZR/FATE Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.03.27 04:39:00 - [444] Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 27/03/2006 04:40:48 Aphex Twin 4tw!
LadyScarlet	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:09:00 - [445] Edited by: LadyScarlet on 27/03/2006 06:10:48 Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 26/03/2006 17:06:14 Originally by: Rajon Kelper Welcome, gents, to KALI. stop whining and get used to it Originally by: Rajon Kelper Kali Features Please do your homework before you make ignorant comments. Check out the first thing on the list. OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. im dateing a jovian does that count ?
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:10:00 - [446] Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. The Guristas approaching us for help with their goals was sort of surprising for us, to, in light of our killing them in belts. Turns out the only reason Guristas pirates go to belts is for training ops. If they lose ships on training ops - well then those ships don't deserve to be Guristas, do they? We were told that hostile Guristas were fair game, but not to mess with an obvious fleet action. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:31:00 - [447] Edited by: Fred0 on 27/03/2006 06:31:39 Originally by: fire 59 WTF, if that's ir misguided idea of pwned, u r a pleb, no doubt's, what a crap argument, truly and woefully pathetic. You quote from 1 flippin page, what about the other 13 or whatever, constant whine and it's just plain silly. Except someone else made a count for the 10 first pages and it was the same. 80% FE/5 whining about G/IRON/RZR whining, irony ftw. Oh and add in abit of gloating now because you got 1 dread. ---
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.27 06:40:00 - [448] Edited by: Sextus Licinius on 27/03/2006 06:41:30 Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu OMG I CAN PLAY KALI WITHOUT DOWNLOADING THE PATCH Oh wait, this is still Red Moon Rising, not Kali. Btw, can we expect the Guristas (allied with FE) and the Serpentis (allied with the 5) to take over Deklein and Fade with Dreadnaughts and Carriers whilst our pvp'ers are fighting their Motherships and Titans in Tribute, and while FE/5 smack in local from their stations? And while that is happening, BoB and ASCN declare an empire war on us? P.S. I forgot the Jovians that take over all the empire stations and boot all the clone contracts of members of IRON/G/FATE/RZR and then hunt our pods with their invulnerable spawned Jovian ships. Ohh poor baby, was that a bad dream? I have heard sometimes pirates and Gurista NPC give good people bad dreams. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 07:06:00 - [449] Hey, So from the looks of KB"s and such.The most damage done to G/I/rzr/etc. thus far has been done by a pos. I hope that dread pilot learned a lesson. Also mad balls for them to engage with bs's at pos imo, not the smartest, but wow.Also, I think people pay attention to the music on that film, because the rest was pretty lame.Now 5/FE/koas pulling out their dreads and taking all dreads out, would of been movie worthy.Not a pos doing most the work imo. Keep the good fights up guys, I will have to travel down. WW P.s no fraps of the bs n support kills?? or just mostly pos too ;).No wait yes it was says the killboards.
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.27 07:11:00 - [450] Fanboi ahoy Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 07:28:00 - [451] Hey, Omg 5/fe are leet!!!!!Did you see them 5-7 bs's take out that dred pilot in space!That pos was pounding on it too! PWNED!!!!There was so many battles in that vid and wow!!!!The tactical movements!! omg Fraps worthy for sure!!!!Omg I hope you post it in the video data base.Epic fraps like that don't come often. Is that a bit better to your liking? WW P.s. The only thing I see on the video is what appears to be a fresh mistaken dread pilot.Every time I see people posting wether thats G/I/etc or 5/FE/etc I will point out the flaws and the reality of the situation and possibly my opinion(not always).If you don't like it please don't read my posts.However!!!!! Keep this in mind I read your posts even though most are shyt.
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.27 07:46:00 - [452] Originally by: Well wicked Hey, So from the looks of KB"s and such.The most damage done to G/I/rzr/etc. thus far has been done by a pos. I hope that dread pilot learned a lesson. Also mad balls for them to engage with bs's at pos imo, not the smartest, but wow.Also, I think people pay attention to the music on that film, because the rest was pretty lame.Now 5/FE/koas pulling out their dreads and taking all dreads out, would of been movie worthy.Not a pos doing most the work imo. Keep the good fights up guys, I will have to travel down. WW P.s no fraps of the bs n support kills?? or just mostly pos too ;).No wait yes it was says the killboards. Another alt in distress What you consider lame is a POS shooting back a GIRON dread ... , how can you even post something like that? So FE to stop being lame in your troubled mind is to switch their POS to offline or even better; set it up so they shoot themselves with it? Keep on praising GIRON's "mad balls" as yourself mentioned, maybe they will listen to you and they will display even more of those. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:04:00 - [453] Hey, There is a long long list if you want to know my opinion on not being lame.However let us not go there my friend.So just a few opinions on the post. The statement was the video imo was lame.Do me a favour; if your going to do your famous "quote followed by a Small sentence to hide any doubt of your ignorance"then read what your commenting on fully. k thanx IMO.You were lame in putting a fraps(of noobie or mistaken dread pilot getting downed by a pos with few bs jumpin in)out in public,or sneaking in the fact you downed one to make yourself look better in a thread where you look dumb.Talking about whining when it's been proven that 5/FE are the whining party if anyone in this whole thread. Then again what else can we expect from 5?Now it just seems FE is also partaking in the forum whoring.You all have been working the forums to the fullest.I think most that are smart enough, know why tooWell I forums ***** too now that I'm back with game.So get used to it. WW P.s. who wants to make me a sig :D
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:36:00 - [454] Originally by: Well wicked Talking about whining when it's been proven that 5/FE are the whining party if anyone in this whole thread. Then again what else can we expect from 5?Now it just seems FE is also partaking in the forum whoring. Dude you're on the wrong thread or on the wrong planet. This whole thread has been started by GIRON to whine about Guristas taking FE side. I understand why you're posting with an alt, you don't want GIRON to know who's the village fool. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Lain Khazar	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:48:00 - [455] Originally by: Sextus Licinius Dude you're on the wrong thread or on the wrong planet. This whole thread has been started by GIRON to whine about Guristas taking FE side. True, but since several pages mostly F-E/5/neutrals are posting. So what WW says is: this thread is a "whine" about GIRON-whining for at least half a dozen pages now. But keep up the good work, we will reach the twenty pages-marker soon. \o/ WTB: avatar-pic
Nisha Nay'Knickerz	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:53:00 - [456] For the love of god will you all shut up. Jebus what a waste of typing! Mods i'll show you my knickers if you please lock this thread!
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:54:00 - [457] Originally by: Well wicked Edited by: Well wicked on 24/03/2006 16:55:55 Hey guys In with more facts.Just so we can see that this same pattern carries over to the other posts about this event or any post related.However these are jsut quick stats for this thread.An unbias look at who is the whiners.ok? This is quick glance at corps alliances posting in this thread.I did not even bother messing with alts or people without the tags.Unless it's clear they are with allaince exmpl. (Narfai) FE/5/KOAS posts I/G/RZR Page #'s ::: # of posts Page #'s ::: #of posts 1 ------- 10 ______________ 1 ------- 7 2 ------- 14 ______________ 2 ------- 0! 3 ------- 13 ______________ 3 ------- 2 4 ------- 10 ______________ 4 ------- 6 5 ------- 15!______________ 5 ------- 7 6 ------- 13 ______________ 6 ------- 9! 7 ------- 12 ______________ 7 ------- 2 8 ------- 18!______________ 8 ------- 2 9 ------- 14 ______________ 9 ------- 5 10 ------- 10 ______________ 10 ------- 6 11 ------- 12 ______________ 11 ------- 8 So as you can see even if you gave all even the 5/fe/koas alts n friends to I/G/R/F still wouldn't amount ot he whinign and forum spammage as 5 are.... think if we counted in their fan boi's alt and bob(they are bias it seems).So who exactly is crying??Also most I/G/R responses are personal attacks for questioning the event or telling peopel to stop smacking. What does this tell you EVE ?You can do your 5 style little propaganda bullshyt with alot of people;not me!If you look at the pattern of you posts it's like 4-6 fe/5 responses at a time for each one of iron or g's posts....sad and clear. It becomes clear more with every post about it from 5/FE.Iron and G I would say shut up now tbh.. that way they just look like "asshatz" (right context? [*** atuk guy]?)and carry on with it like always. WW Hey, Numbers are there shalli bother counting the pages after or do you get my point?K thanx WW
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:56:00 - [458] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 27/03/2006 06:31:39 Originally by: fire 59 WTF, if that's ir misguided idea of pwned, u r a pleb, no doubt's, what a crap argument, truly and woefully pathetic. You quote from 1 flippin page, what about the other 13 or whatever, constant whine and it's just plain silly. Except someone else made a count for the 10 first pages and it was the same. 80% FE/5 whining about G/IRON/RZR whining, irony ftw. Oh and add in abit of gloating now because you got 1 dread. I just had a looksie out of plain curiousity, just in case i may be horribly wrong. Looked over 3 or so pages to get an idea and it's very even actually, nt including the g/iron fanboi's, dnt know where you got this 80% malarky, if i can be bothered i may go through every page and get an exact number of g/iron/rzr/the rest whines against the allies responses. Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:59:00 - [459] Edited by: fire 59 on 27/03/2006 09:02:17 LOL, takes out book and learns to read chart's Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:02:00 - [460] Originally by: Lain Khazar Originally by: Sextus Licinius Dude you're on the wrong thread or on the wrong planet. This whole thread has been started by GIRON to whine about Guristas taking FE side. True, but since several pages mostly F-E/5/neutrals are posting. So what WW says is: this thread is a "whine" about GIRON-whining for at least half a dozen pages now. But keep up the good work, we will reach the twenty pages-marker soon. \o/ Tbh... maybe 5. have more forum wh@ring population, but it doesn't mean that giron isn't whining. For instance, i think this event turned out better than many others, it sucks to be on the receiving side, but does anyone remember mordu event when they returned to empire so half of the pursuers were concordokened ? Originally by: Commander Nikolas People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS. Antipiracy is causing brain damage
Mr SunTzu	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:05:00 - [461] 2 wrongs dont make one right.
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:09:00 - [462] Originally by: Well wicked Originally by: Well wicked Edited by: Well wicked on 24/03/2006 16:55:55 Hey guys In with more facts.Just so we can see that this same pattern carries over to the other posts about this event or any post related.However these are jsut quick stats for this thread.An unbias look at who is the whiners.ok? This is quick glance at corps alliances posting in this thread.I did not even bother messing with alts or people without the tags.Unless it's clear they are with allaince exmpl. (Narfai) FE/5/KOAS posts I/G/RZR Page #'s ::: # of posts Page #'s ::: #of posts 1 ------- 10 ______________ 1 ------- 7 2 ------- 14 ______________ 2 ------- 0! 3 ------- 13 ______________ 3 ------- 2 4 ------- 10 ______________ 4 ------- 6 5 ------- 15!______________ 5 ------- 7 6 ------- 13 ______________ 6 ------- 9! 7 ------- 12 ______________ 7 ------- 2 8 ------- 18!______________ 8 ------- 2 9 ------- 14 ______________ 9 ------- 5 10 ------- 10 ______________ 10 ------- 6 11 ------- 12 ______________ 11 ------- 8 So as you can see even if you gave all even the 5/fe/koas alts n friends to I/G/R/F still wouldn't amount ot he whinign and forum spammage as 5 are.... think if we counted in their fan boi's alt and bob(they are bias it seems).So who exactly is crying??Also most I/G/R responses are personal attacks for questioning the event or telling peopel to stop smacking. What does this tell you EVE ?You can do your 5 style little propaganda bullshyt with alot of people;not me!If you look at the pattern of you posts it's like 4-6 fe/5 responses at a time for each one of iron or g's posts....sad and clear. It becomes clear more with every post about it from 5/FE.Iron and G I would say shut up now tbh.. that way they just look like "asshatz" (right context? [*** atuk guy]?)and carry on with it like always. WW Hey, Numbers are there shalli bother counting the pages after or do you get my point?K thanx WW Wow you took the time to figure out who's whining and whining-about-whining more in what specific page... priceless. No one can do you more damage than you are already doing to yourself. My personal opinion is that you are Wildcard's alt "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:09:00 - [463] Edited by: Fred0 on 27/03/2006 09:09:48 Originally by: LUKEC ...It sucks to be on the receiving side, but does anyone remember mordu event when they returned to empire so half of the pursuers were concordokened ? That's not what happened in the Mordu's event. 2 NORAD bs were concordokkened due to shooting the escort of Mordu's instead of the actual Mordu's. Bringing the fight into empire was actually pretty clever by norad since that meant they didn't have to deal with the escort, but being overexited and shooting the wrong people was not that smart Oh and NORAD had been informed and was taking part with consent. Same as bob and mc in that event. ---
hired goon	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:12:00 - [464] Lot of crap in this thread. So far though, this quote is winning; Originally by: WildCard Well loosing a Dread may happen when you use your own ones. However was a nice fight. -omg-
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:22:00 - [465] Originally by: hired goon Lot of crap in this thread. So far though, this quote is winning; Originally by: WildCard Well loosing a Dread may happen when you use your own ones. However was a nice fight. There were FE dreads too as shown in ss, none of em were lost so here's 5 dollars go buy yourself a clue. Oh btw, keep em dreads commin "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:28:00 - [466] Hey, Omg the made it out in space!!!Was there even talk about them being used? <3 WW
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.03.27 10:09:00 - [467] Pathetic But please, do continue posting. Greater fall will be in the end and laughs to your, filled with dust, little face ('s). DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
Rytir	Posted - 2006.03.27 10:40:00 - [468] Ok i've been whined to death by everyone, so i am currently in talks with the jovians to spank everyone who has whined in this thread and to also remove pos's from the universe Originally by: TheJay I went to MLM and all I got was this lousy alliance
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.27 11:01:00 - [469] Originally by: Darcuese Pathetic But please, do continue posting. Greater fall will be in the end and laughs to your, filled with dust, little face ('s). What the ****, if your not english, then fair enough. BUT what the hell does that mean. You sound like yoda.
General Hansen	Posted - 2006.03.27 11:04:00 - [470] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Darcuese Pathetic But please, do continue posting. Greater fall will be in the end and laughs to your, filled with dust, little face ('s). What the ****, if your not english, then fair enough. BUT what the hell does that mean. You sound like yoda. Hes from Siberia
k1Lz	Posted - 2006.03.27 11:16:00 - [471] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Darcuese Pathetic But please, do continue posting. Greater fall will be in the end and laughs to your, filled with dust, little face ('s). What the ****, if your not english, then fair enough. BUT what the hell does that mean. You sound like yoda. We have a master Jedi, the force is with us we canÆt lose now ...
Balazs Simon	Posted - 2006.03.27 11:31:00 - [472] Originally by: Well wicked Hey, There is a long long list if you want to know my opinion on not being lame.However let us not go there my friend.So just a few opinions on the post. The statement was the video imo was lame.Do me a favour; if your going to do your famous "quote followed by a Small sentence to hide any doubt of your ignorance"then read what your commenting on fully. k thanx IMO.You were lame in putting a fraps(of noobie or mistaken dread pilot getting downed by a pos with few bs jumpin in)out in public,or sneaking in the fact you downed one to make yourself look better in a thread where you look dumb.Talking about whining when it's been proven that 5/FE are the whining party if anyone in this whole thread. Then again what else can we expect from 5?Now it just seems FE is also partaking in the forum whoring.You all have been working the forums to the fullest.I think most that are smart enough, know why tooWell I forums ***** too now that I'm back with game.So get used to it. WW P.s. who wants to make me a sig :D OK mr. clules Here is what happened at the HUN POS, read it, than you have the right to say t was lame. When I logged in D7 local was 150+ around 30ish frendly... I warp to the hw gate with my cov op, hmm 6 - 8 medium boubble, 80 enemy on gate... I warped to wh gate.. small boubble, intredictors 20+ enemy... I warp to sh gate ceptors on the gate... 2 min later Cyno field appear, I warp there to check, dreads coming in warping right to our pos and start pounding it. /this looks me a full scale assaoult, but yeh, maybe you right and only that dread pilot screwed up/ The actula battle looked like this: We gathered every aviable BS in system, warped right on top of the dreads, and started killing the less tanked ones. they still were able to tank us. Enemy fleet warp in, we warp out. Tis part repeat several times. G / I realize, they wont be able to hold for too long, they suffer heavy losses every time they warp their bs in to our pos. Enemy dreads starting to flee out, enemy BS fleet come in every time to cover the dreads , because our taclers are right no them holding them in place. Most enemy dread go out unfortunetly, but our brave taclers under the enemy BS fleet fire are able to hold the last Moros. POS vaporize the enemy fleet faster than they kill our taclers. our fleet warps back in once more and finish off the dread. The dread pilot not screwed up anything. Props to G/I for the great fight. The only thing they screwed up is underestimilate the frendly forces numbers in system. - POST WITH YOUR MAIN! This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the HUN Corporation in any way. -
Mangus Thermopyle	Posted - 2006.03.27 11:32:00 - [473] I cant believe that G/IRON continues to whine about something that didnt even hurt them. No POS where destroyed, and they didnt lose any battleships or other expensive equipment. And whats even worse, they use alts to complain, which in my opinion is as cowardly as you can become. Besides, G/IRON proved yesterday that we dont need help to kill them. One of our POS and 20 BS was enough to kill 1 dread and 20 of their 60 BS gang (I think we lost 4 BS though)
Daxes	Posted - 2006.03.27 11:42:00 - [474] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I cant believe that G/IRON continues to whine about something that didnt even hurt them. No POS where destroyed, and they didnt lose any battleships or other expensive equipment. And whats even worse, they use alts to complain, which in my opinion is as cowardly as you can become. Besides, G/IRON proved yesterday that we dont need help to kill them. One of our POS and 20 BS was enough to kill 1 dread and 20 of their 60 BS gang (I think we lost 4 BS though) u are cool.
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:09:00 - [475] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I cant believe that G/IRON continues to whine about something that didnt even hurt them. No POS where destroyed, and they didnt lose any battleships or other expensive equipment. And whats even worse, they use alts to complain, which in my opinion is as cowardly as you can become. Besides, G/IRON proved yesterday that we dont need help to kill them. One of our POS and 20 BS was enough to kill 1 dread and 20 of their 60 BS gang (I think we lost 4 BS though) I can't YOUR still crying about something very that G/I posted very little about compared to your camp partner. There is even posts from god knows who throughout this thread and some even more on your side still telling what you won't want to hear.Yet everyone is noobies right?..everyone is wrong but your camp right? Grow the **** up, you make my job easier though. WW
RaYmEn	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:09:00 - [476] Edited by: RaYmEn on 27/03/2006 12:09:22 omg!!!!!! we lost a dread better now ? GACKA
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:22:00 - [477] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I cant believe that G/IRON continues to whine about something that didnt even hurt them. No POS where destroyed, and they didnt lose any battleships or other expensive equipment. And whats even worse, they use alts to complain, which in my opinion is as cowardly as you can become. Exactly who is continuing to whine, and about what? read the thread instead of just clicking on it and replying when you see it's still there. It's 80% FE/5 whining. ---
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:24:00 - [478] 482nd!!! Fear the Ibis of doom.
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:31:00 - [479] Fredo, your math's is f##ked up, where did you get 80%, i had a look myself and it's nt 80% at all. Btw, it was g etc etc who were whining, allies were replying so plz use the tiny amount of grey matter that remains to, uummmmmm, think, in future, good boy Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Jherek Cornelian	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:34:00 - [480] Originally by: Well wicked Grow the **** up, you make my job easier though. Bypassing the swear filter doesn't exactly make you mister maturity either. Neither does hiding behind an alt. Neither does actually having an alt called 'Well Wicked' This thread has degenerated into goo (mostly yours) can someone lock it, it's all gone altastic.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:39:00 - [481] Originally by: Well wicked Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I cant believe that G/IRON continues to whine about something that didnt even hurt them. No POS where destroyed, and they didnt lose any battleships or other expensive equipment. And whats even worse, they use alts to complain, which in my opinion is as cowardly as you can become. Besides, G/IRON proved yesterday that we dont need help to kill them. One of our POS and 20 BS was enough to kill 1 dread and 20 of their 60 BS gang (I think we lost 4 BS though) I can't YOUR still crying about something very that G/I posted very little about compared to your camp partner. There is even posts from god knows who throughout this thread and some even more on your side still telling what you won't want to hear.Yet everyone is noobies right?..everyone is wrong but your camp right? Grow the **** up, you make my job easier though. WW Man, i cant beleive your STILL whining about [5] whining about G/IRON whining! FFS STOP WHINING!
Mallik Hendrake	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:03:00 - [482] I am going to be honest. I am here to whine about .5. whining about Giron whining about .5. whining about Giron whining about razor whining about .5. whining about Giron whining about Guristas whining about Giron whining about FE whining about GIron. If you read that you deserve to die. -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_ Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON]
Maule	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:10:00 - [483] its a ***** game so stop whining everyone, think this theard have served it purpose and should be locked. and to that ww guy complaining about the vid about the dreads. did you read the post where he posted it ? he said that it was done quickly and was "suposed" to be for alliance members only so who gives a ** about what happenes there ? And calling said dread pilot a noob is retarded aswell as it could happen to everyone.
Talon SilverHawk	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:27:00 - [484] Man this still going on. Lol Tal Hello mom Tal What goes around comes around
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:31:00 - [485] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I cant believe that G/IRON continues to whine about something that didnt even hurt them. No POS where destroyed, and they didnt lose any battleships or other expensive equipment. And whats even worse, they use alts to complain, which in my opinion is as cowardly as you can become. Exactly who is continuing to whine, and about what? read the thread instead of just clicking on it and replying when you see it's still there. It's 80% FE/5 whining. No, its us laughing at your not so clevr alts. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Steven McWayne	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:40:00 - [486] maybe it would be the best thing to close this smackthread -_--
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:49:00 - [487] Edited by: Fred0 on 27/03/2006 13:51:29 Originally by: Vince Draken No, its us laughing at your not so clevr alts. I swear it's FE/5 alts posing as our alts to make us look bad EDIT: Oh and yes, a lock wouldn't hurt by now ---
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:58:00 - [488] Post, just so I appear on the 1billionth page of this thread.
Doragee	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:59:00 - [489] Just to bring it toward page 18.... whine
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.27 14:25:00 - [490] Originally by: Doragee Just to bring it toward page 18.... whine Good call! \o/ 18 4tw ____________________________________________
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.27 14:38:00 - [491] OMG NOW YOU GUYS ARE WHINING FOR A LOCK, DOES THIS MADNESS EVER STOP? Oh wait i just whined about the fact that your whining for a lock. DAMN.
Hast	Posted - 2006.03.27 14:41:00 - [492] need a lock? abdalion where are j00?
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.03.27 14:56:00 - [493] tip the scales 1st ____________________________________________

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.03.27 15:49:00 - [494] Originally by: Hast need a lock? abdalion where are j00? I have been leaving this thread open, because I closed the many other threads on this topic. It is only fair, especially on such a hot topic. I will read back some and see if this thread is ready to die, as I suspect it is. ___

DoZ3r	Posted - 2006.03.27 16:26:00 - [495] ooooo double post for 500th

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.03.27 16:36:00 - [496] Originally by: DoZ3r ooooo double post for 500th Denied. Thread has run its course. Click. ___


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