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Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:01:00 - [391] Quote: Factional warfare is joining a corporation like "Caldari Navy" and going and killing those allied with "Guristas". As you kill more you get a higher ranking. Not Guristas magically spawning 8 dreads in a system with max skills doing more damage than the 320 man FE fleet. But thats just my opinion. Can you post a link to where devs said this for me to check out? I was of the impression that it ment that players can side with NPC factions to fight vs other NPC factions. That, though, was just my deductions from the info I've seen, as I havent found any detailed explainations yet. --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Hamatitio	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:09:00 - [392] My deductions are different. To my knowledge none of you received a medal for 'helping' them did you? --- I Post on the forums for Fate. Im cool. Industrialists wanted
Rajon Kelper	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:11:00 - [393] why are medals mandatory? --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Dalilah	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:54:00 - [394] So named "Guristas" can increase a war efficiency against G/IRON very much if next time will spawn 8 dreads for each claiming POS around Fade, Deklein and Cloud Ring stations. And don't forget eve-mail to .5., F-E, KAOS leaders about exact time of the reinforce mode finish that "corps de ballet" will not arrived too late for the battle Simply a shame to see that people searching the justifications for a broken fairplay in "Kali features" Go G! Go IRON! --- Ohhh... No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering
Dorah Hawkwing	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:57:00 - [395] People.. from my experience DMing on another online game, I can just tell you one little detail: People/groups who complain too much about event DMing usually have to waita very long time before they get positive attention from events (eg: events happening for them), as DM's are only people too.
Moonlight Express	Posted - 2006.03.26 04:30:00 - [396] I just hope that there's an event that benefits G and IRON soon, because there's going to be some major payback whining on the forums and we'll see how the same people that are crying now, will be defendig the event when it benefits them.
Dalilah	Posted - 2006.03.26 04:35:00 - [397] Originally by: Dorah Hawkwing DM's are only people too. They are overpowered people and must to be very careful, tolerant and neutral for all sides that take a part in the events and don't break gameplay for hundreds of players. Are we saw that during this event? I'm not sure We have experience to take a part in the "undeclared event" with the True Power. I think simply guys from Aurora were bored and start to threaten us as Sansha residents. Then their 2 Nightmare и Phantasm were spawned during a hot battle between SA and SE. Very funny surprise, isn't it? --- Ohhh... No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering
Aegis Osiris	Posted - 2006.03.26 04:54:00 - [398] Good grief. How can so many people, even those involved, completely MISS THE POINT. So many have stated 'its unfair for an NPC group to magically spawn dreads and DESTROY PLAYERS' PRECIOUS POS's. Which POS's, exactly, were DESTROYED by the Guristas?? Do you think the event staff were blind? Were they simply complete morons? Did they not ALSO see the timers for reinforced mode? If they had wanted to DESTROY those pos's, wouldnt they have SHOWN UP THE NEXT DAY???? The mixed fleet ITSELF was the event, NOT any perceived goal. NO PLAYER EQUIPMENT WAS HARMED DURING THIS EVENT. It cost G/IRON some time recharging. It cost FE/5 BS's, lost to the POS guns themselves, and the ammo spent. Pretty even frackin' trade, don't you think? If you STILL can't see this, then please follow these simple directions: 1. Unplug your keyboard 2. Smack yourself in the forehead with a ball pien hammer a few times. 2 or 3 good wacks should do it. 3. Plug the keyboard back in, and reread. 4. If it still don't make sense, rinse and repeat until understanding or a comatose state are reached...whichever comes first P.S. Lordslay Them, you seem like an angry young man. Can I give you a hug? ________________________________________________ This thread does not exist
Kantar	Posted - 2006.03.26 08:59:00 - [399] erm.....14 pages and counting.......... Too much whining and complains pls refer to my office.
fire 59	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:14:00 - [400] WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance
Shirei	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:25:00 - [401] Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'?
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:31:00 - [402] Edited by: ZedLey on 26/03/2006 09:31:14 Originally by: Shirei Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'? You cant let go can you
Shirei	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:34:00 - [403] Yay, flames irrelevant to the post they're replying to 4tw.
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:36:00 - [404] Originally by: Shirei Yay, flames irrelevant to the post they're replying to 4tw. You missed my point but whatever
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:51:00 - [405] Edited by: Darko1107 on 26/03/2006 09:54:34 I LOVE the news item, i swear they tried to make it into a comedy. First paragraph, all entity's are hyperlinked apart from IRON/G. Quote: leaving the final task of destroying the towers to the F-E and combined forces. Woops. Quote: Reports indicate that F-E leadership had met with Gurista negotiator Pel Reton, and that a mutual agreement had been reached, Pel Reton: HOW DARE YOU CONVO ME AFTER YOU KILL MY PILOTS NIGHT AFTER NIGHT. F-E Leader: Errmmm..... Yeh sorry about that mate, lack of communication, we had the wrong standings set. Pel Reton: I just lost another about 2 minutes ago, oh and another 1, and another 1. Just cant stop my stupid pilots getting ganked in belts :\. F-E Leader: Cumon, cant we look past the fact that we kill your pilots daily and will continue to do so and just work together to kill the people that are trying to remove us(f-e) from our space? Pel Reton: Sure where do u want our 8 dreads? Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. I think ccp are probly wondering why aswell..... Quote: bellowing "Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighbourhood? I needed to shoot something." Yeh... just a nice play in the neighbourhood, risk some lives, take our most expensive ships... take on some heavily armed POS's for 6 hours just sitting there shooting. All in the name of FUN! Wait, POS shooting is fun? Quote: F-E ranking officer, Naphtalia, simply rehashed Helmatt's statement; "They need to come through this system to move between Empire and their home systems. Having Hostile forces blocking D7 is unacceptable." Ofcourse... i mean there would never be any F-E shooting at Gurista pilots along these routes.... Might aswell have just made a statement: "I R TEH NAPHTALIA, I LIE ALOT, THANKYOU." Comedy legends from all over will look at this peice as inspiration, something to look up to.
Gradinger	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:06:00 - [406] its really gettin boring now, and you¦re running out of arguments - sry
WildCard	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:24:00 - [407] Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--
Kaleeb	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:30:00 - [408] Its a game....jees you should all be greatful that there are now a few less pos's ingame player vs pos player vs player I know which one i prefer
Twoside	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:34:00 - [409] Edited by: Twoside on 26/03/2006 10:34:23 edit: nm actually, didnt read all mandatory 14 pages :)
Majaraw Awalabas	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:45:00 - [410] Edited by: Majaraw Awalabas on 26/03/2006 10:50:52 CCP interests Gallente Elections sorry, the what? You guys seriously still thinking about that? Sarum heir dudes, she's probably not dead man! Why get hung up! Amarr emperor Bah who needs an emperor for EVEs largest empire... Tetrimon event Uh yeah they uh smack in Amarr channel.. preparing us for the return of a unified Empire.. or something... wait... its a year since the documents were moved? Flying around in dreadnaughts you get handed free on leet characters you don't need to train for Yes! Oh yes! Can't you just feel how much we care for the storyline!
Joerd Toastius	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:48:00 - [411] Bad 2s :P Seriously though. I don't see any way of reading the "AURORA shouldn't have got involved at all" argument as not boiling down to "RP should be consensual". People have even outright stated that G/IRON should've been informed OOC. I can see the argument that there shouldn't be NPC alliances in 0.0 in the first place - I disagree with it, but I can see it from the "Pure PvPer" perspective. However, given that they are there, in any game claiming to have RP elements you're going to have to accept that their presence there has consequences, and that those consequences may not be to your liking. And seriously, step back for a second. Take a deep breath. And compare the arguments here to that other great "consensual" debate - "should PvP be consensual?". Not only are they structurally similar, but I suspect you'll find that many of the arguments that work for each side in one work for the same side in the other. For those of you angry about AURORA here - that anger is the same anger that carebears feel when you gank them - "a bigger kid came along and hit me no fair!". Show a little consistency, please? On a side note, while the fact of pilots hitting Guristas patrols etc fits in RP terms, the numbers killed do not. In reality the Guristas would have a navy of maybe thousands, but they wouldn't have anything like the numbers of hardware or crew (remember, every BS you hit has a couple of thousand people onboard) that spawn in the belts. In the same way that the mission system doesn't really mean in IC terms that the governor's daughter really got kidnapped every 10 seconds, or that your faction of choice really had that many informants needing silencing, so spawn-killing doesn't really mean in IC terms that a million or so Guristas ships are destroyed every day. They're there for gameplay reasons, but you have to make allowances in IC terms. A good starting point would be to only count kills which give you a sec status boost as "real" in IC terms, as that generates a half-way acceptable number of kills.
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:06:00 - [412] Originally by: Shirei Originally by: fire 59 WoW, 14 pagesm last i looked it was 4, that's alot of whining . Seriously G,iron and fanboi's, let the thread go to sleep, it's a ridiculous amount of misinformed whining, giving me a headache On this page so far: 2 posts by pilots affiliated with IRON/G/... 4 posts by people not directly involved 7 posts by people from F-E/5 So you're calling yourself 'G, iron and fanbois'? PWNED!!!!!! :)
Sir JoJo	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:16:00 - [413] Edited by: Sir JoJo on 26/03/2006 11:16:16 Thread has run its course Click Edit: ups wasent the gm/forum mod acc Bringing pain to a place near you
Tholarim	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:27:00 - [414] Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet.
Turkantho	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:30:00 - [415] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet. bring it ontopic: can we lock this dreadful thread now please ? ________ As[G]ard
Crellion	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:28:00 - [416] Originally by: Darko1107 Edited by: Darko1107 on 26/03/2006 09:54:34 I LOVE the news item, i swear they tried to make it into a comedy. First paragraph, all entity's are hyperlinked apart from IRON/G. Quote: leaving the final task of destroying the towers to the F-E and combined forces. Woops. Quote: Reports indicate that F-E leadership had met with Gurista negotiator Pel Reton, and that a mutual agreement had been reached, Pel Reton: HOW DARE YOU CONVO ME AFTER YOU KILL MY PILOTS NIGHT AFTER NIGHT. F-E Leader: Errmmm..... Yeh sorry about that mate, lack of communication, we had the wrong standings set. Pel Reton: I just lost another about 2 minutes ago, oh and another 1, and another 1. Just cant stop my stupid pilots getting ganked in belts :\. F-E Leader: Cumon, cant we look past the fact that we kill your pilots daily and will continue to do so and just work together to kill the people that are trying to remove us(f-e) from our space? Pel Reton: Sure where do u want our 8 dreads? Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. I think ccp are probly wondering why aswell..... Quote: bellowing "Why can't anybody accept that this is just a playful romp in the neighbourhood? I needed to shoot something." Yeh... just a nice play in the neighbourhood, risk some lives, take our most expensive ships... take on some heavily armed POS's for 6 hours just sitting there shooting. All in the name of FUN! Wait, POS shooting is fun? Quote: F-E ranking officer, Naphtalia, simply rehashed Helmatt's statement; "They need to come through this system to move between Empire and their home systems. Having Hostile forces blocking D7 is unacceptable." Ofcourse... i mean there would never be any F-E shooting at Gurista pilots along these routes.... Might aswell have just made a statement: "I R TEH NAPHTALIA, I LIE ALOT, THANKYOU." Comedy legends from all over will look at this peice as inspiration, something to look up to. I think Darko is liek my enemy in the big scheme of thinks but this is one funny post. Good job
Hast	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:52:00 - [417] Originally by: Pepperami Quoting loads of text then adding one line sucks. like you just did? Recruit me
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:54:00 - [418] Originally by: Hast like you just did? Dude, Irony pwns. [Art of War][- V -]
Hast	Posted - 2006.03.26 13:58:00 - [419] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Hast like you just did? Dude, Irony pwns. pretending you dont get irony even moreso Recruit me
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.03.26 14:37:00 - [420] Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: WildCard Quote: While collaboration between both parties has been confirmed now, the question as to why remains unanswered. Yes i think that lots of ppl are abit confused about that, cuz Guristas are npc's that FE are shoting em to get bountys. Now they are allied. ...But 5 also was shooting FEs each day... now they are allied. So i think thats usual for FE to NAP thier enemys. However 5 lost more ships in the last few days as they did during the whole campain vs FE/PA/NBIS. So all fine for me. lol. And we haven't even started yet. bring it

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