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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4015
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:12:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:There is no conspiracy to silence some people and the group they apparently represent. Do you people ever find something you can't cry about? No matter who CCP hires, or allow to volunteer as the case may be, the rules that they enforce don't change. CCP make the rules. ISD enforces them. Period. If they don't enforce them or overstep their mandate, they get a stern talking to. Or we just don't see them anymore. By the same token, why offer the position to someone who has proved on many occasions that they can't even follow the rules let alone enforce them? Makes no sense to me. Seriously. Some of you people have such a major persecution complex. Mr Epeen  Let me tell you about T20 and his escapades...
T20 was ISD? And how many years ago?
Sheesh brother, you need to do better than that.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4593
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:16:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Let's be honest for a moment. The guy that convinces his marks to rub mayonnaise and miracle whip all over themselves so that he gets pictures to spread around for e-fame is not the best candidate for a moderator position.
If it was some sort of sexual fetish then I could kind of understand it, but he thinks this is normal behaviour & cool. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1604
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:20:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:T20 was ISD? And how many years ago? Sheesh brother, you need to do better than that. Mr Epeen 
Proof its happened, unlike what you posted and can't prove without looking like a dinsdale post. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4593
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:22:00 -
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Remember that time that ISD Stensson locked a newbies thread because he asked why he couldn't tuck his characters pants in, which started a forum riot? Those were the days. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
163
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:35:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Interestingly enough, one can say much the same thing about the game itself.
Give this guy an upvote. Hell, give him all the upvotes... |

Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
160
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:39:00 -
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I rarely come to these forums, the reason being that I am not entertained.
There is no humor or originality here. I've seen all these arguments before, just with different games.
EVE is a game about destroying stuff. So you will get one type of player. Competitive males mostly, probably around twenty-something.
That competitiveness leeches into the forums.
From little things, like reporting posts for being in the wrong forum, to full on flame wars.
Some of the reasons are players competing for an ISD job or competing against old foes from in the game.
I don't find it entertaining.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not fussy, but I need a little bit more than selfies and a little bit more than a forum war of people being rude because they are bored. The flamers are not entertained either, so they make their own fun by causing some consternation.
CCP could give players reasons to exchange information or entertainment, rather than insults.
Insults are old hat. ~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~ |

The Jagji
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.02.06 06:11:00 -
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Have not read anything out side of the OP, so this is my thoughts right out of the box....
I play a LOT of games. One of them is League Of Legends. This game, along with DOTA2, probably has the most TOXIC forums and community. One thing Riot did to curve this is implement a kind of Code of Conduct for both the forums and the game it self. Now, the nature of LoL compered to EVE is EXTREEEEEMLY different (yes, I used more e's than needed), however one thing I think the EVE forums at least could take away from is having some kind of code of conduct. The biggest problem EVE has is also its biggest draw card. Its open to anything, from killing other players to coning them. However, people seem to keep 'playing' EVE on the forums. I think this needs to stop, or at least curved. Your not meant to keep playing it here, merely discuss it. Some people have a tendency to take the in-game problems OUT of the game. That's the hard bit that people need to get over.
Then there are just people who like being assholes.... |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1606
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Posted - 2014.02.06 06:15:00 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:I rarely come to these forums, the reason being that I am not entertained.
There is no humor or originality here. I've seen all these arguments before, just with different games.
EVE is a game about destroying stuff. So you will get one type of player. Competitive males mostly, probably around twenty-something.
That competitiveness leeches into the forums.
From little things, like reporting posts for being in the wrong forum, to full on flame wars.
Some of the reasons are players competing for an ISD job or competing against old foes from in the game.
I don't find it entertaining.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not fussy, but I need a little bit more than selfies and a little bit more than a forum war of people being rude because they are bored. The flamers are not entertained either, so they make their own fun by causing some consternation.
CCP could give players reasons to exchange information or entertainment, rather than insults.
Insults are old hat.
La Nariz wrote:Items we could buy to interact with other forum users would bring life to the forums.
Imagine if you could force a clown mask on that really annoying person, a bag over that really ugly person's head, an egg/tomato/rotten fruit you could chuck at someone or force their font to read in 20 point brilliant pink sparkly comic sans. Put these things in the NeX store for aurum and CCP will have successfully done microtransactions.
Humor and originality right there, its a T rated version of what goes on at SA and it makes CCP money. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |

Honrado deQuiros
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.02.06 07:23:00 -
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Most of the forums I visit has this "New Posts" button along the top forum buttons that collated thread subjects that I haven't viewed since my last visit (cookies). Thats my goto button everytime I load up one specific forum, cause I'll get the opportunity to contribute to the latest/active threads of the board. The visibility and single click access basically made it THE 'community' button.
If ever we implemented it here, I guess there should be New Posts for every major subforum like Eve Communication Center, Eve Gameplay Center, Eve Marketplace (specially this, because of daily bump rulings) etc etc..
While it is true that the eve forum community is.... a "lil bit" hostile yes, most of the gaming forums i've seen will have a smaller population than the actual gamebase; Most of the players are busy playing of course! Gaming forums of old did have a bit of advantage because other structures for communication was not there/hard to get into. Now, discussions are decentralized (reddit, SA, mumble, TS3, etc etc..) and the various ideas, concerns, activities, interests -- whole cultures/communities -- go with it. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4017
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Posted - 2014.02.06 07:54:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:T20 was ISD? And how many years ago? Sheesh brother, you need to do better than that. Mr Epeen  Proof its happened, unlike what you posted and can't prove without looking like a dinsdale post.
You don't even make sense.
You want known scammers that not only scam but humiliate people in the ISD but some ancient Dev cheat is your justification for it? Guy should be your hero the way you are talking.
And more ancient history. The CSM was created to provide checks and balance so T20 would not happen again. It's their mandate to assure total morons don't find there way into the ISD. Or anywhere else for that matter.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2519
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Posted - 2014.02.06 08:20:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Do not underestimate the power of the force nerd. That's all I'm gonna say.  If you weren't an ISD, id inform you that calling the GD regulars "nerds" would more than likely end badly for you.... lol, misunderstand much?
Anyway. Shut it nerd.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
474
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Posted - 2014.02.06 08:41:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Do not underestimate the power of the force nerd. That's all I'm gonna say.  If you weren't an ISD, id inform you that calling the GD regulars "nerds" would more than likely end badly for you.... lol, misunderstand much? Anyway. Shut it nerd. ... said the nerd. EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3024
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Posted - 2014.02.06 08:52:00 -
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Your horrible forum software deletes and loses posts, the layout is awful to read or use on any sort of mobile device, and it has way too many forums and subforums. Unsurprisingly, a great majority of players can't be bothered to fight against those issues to make a post. The fact that the third party fansites are more professional and competently designed than the official eve-o forum should be a source of deep embarrassment to CCP.
Fix those issues and you might see people actually want to use your forums. Post on the Eve-o forums with a Goonswarm Federation character that drinking bleach is bad for you, and 20 forum warriors will hospitalise themselves trying to prove you wrong. |

Muestereate
Minions LLC
154
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Posted - 2014.02.06 09:16:00 -
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I liked that idea about deleting general discussion. ISD certainly seems to have it in its cross-hairs So I guess CCP does also.
I don't think it needs totally deleted though. It need changed into a newsfeed. Format could be the same but only Original post and like /view stats.. An algorithm to keep active posts near the top could be developed or possibly licensed from pros in this sector of crowd management. The newsfeed should show any and all subforums a customer is interested in. This way, all posts could get a good audience while still being located in the correct forum. I like our little previews, if someone clicked it should jump straight to the the subforum. Somewhere on the subforum should be a return to the GD newsfeed.
In addition to reading posts one should be able to create new post from the GD newsfeed page. An additional drop down field below the subject should be required to be selected. The drop down should have all subforums except for the GD. |

Antihrist Pripravnik
Direwolf-Rayet skylian Verge
177
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Posted - 2014.02.06 09:20:00 -
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Assuming that there is a problem of low forum activity in the first place (since I can't take OP's word for it for granted), there is a couple of possible reasons of why some players are distancing themselves from the forums. I'll list some of them in no particular order of importance or the amount of impact they have.
- Increasing number of purely bad character names. Take OP's character name for example. This is one of those rare times when I would even consider opening a thread that created a character with this kind of a name - and I did it only because the character name and the thread's subject have something in common. I don't even want to start talking about the quality of posts expected from characters named this way.
- The forums are almost overrun by NPC corp alts.
- Demographics and mentality of the general playerbase has changed considerably over the last couple of years. The game somehow became easier, but not in a good way. Take as an example that highsec ganking alliance/corp/whatever. That situation was discussed for months on all parts of the forum. You couldn't open any game relevant forum section without it being flooded by posts about "James 315": Market discussions, My Eve, General discussion, CAOD, Features & Ideas,... you name it. Now, by observing that situation I can see how the game became easier and more accepted by the type of players that were not that prominent in the game earlier. One side of that story is a demographics of players that willingly accept play style that is forced upon them by paying ISK for so called licenses. And we are not talking about renter alliances, we are talking about high security space. Those players are mostly passive and tend to post their frustrations about the situation on the forums instead of doing something about it the way it should be done - by in-game actions. For a more experienced player or a veteran, coming to forums to read a post about this is mind-numbingly boring - you know the content of the post, you know multiple solutions to the problem discussed, you know that those solutions has been mentioned in the threads countless number of times and you know that the players who are affected by it are simply not listening or not ready or willing to take any action besides arguing on the forums about it. The other side is equally annoying and can also be described with the same word - "Entitlement".
So, the game has changed and got easier. Easier for helpless kind of almost passive players to enter the game and feel entitled to have protection. Easier for gankers to force their play style to much larger audience and feel entitled that CCP should nurse their play style. It wasn't like that before... well it was, but not in this magnitude.
- Another thing is negativity towards CCP - as a real opinion or as a troll. The game has improved significantly since Crucible. Almost every aspect of it. Yet somehow CCP bashing became mainstream on the forums for no apparent reason. The amount of players that are willing to provide constructive NEGATIVE feedback is at all times low. Pure negativity does not and will not attract more forum activity.
- The negativity is also present in numerous forum posts about Goonswarm. I mean, come on... it's a group of players that hold their own space and is open and vulnerable to anyone that wants to take a shot at them. You don't like them? Then get into a ship and go to their space to make some damage. Complaining on the forums won't get you far.
TL;DR: bad character names, bad posts, swarm of NPC corp alts, changed player demographics, repetitive posts, negativity towards CCP, negativity towards Goonswarm and negativity in general, lack of constructive negative criticism. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic     |

Regis Solo
The Scope Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.02.06 09:49:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Are you serious? If you want to be taken seriously, post with an appropriately named character, with quality content, in the appropriate forums. If you are unable to do so, please see RatKnight1's post above. Do you even play EVE? Or is forum trolling your full-time gig? Baby, with hardware like mine, I can do both.
I've just puked |

Esha Ditrix
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2014.02.06 09:58:00 -
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"Forums perfectly match the game it represents"
what a shocker...
Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it... |

Janeway84
Aliastra Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.02.06 09:59:00 -
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I think its more about players not knowing there is a forum or not knowing or caring on using it.. Not everyone playing the game is vocal about playing the game as people doing pod casts and running websites, some people just want to play the game casualy id guess.
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Ronny Hugo
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc.
51
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Posted - 2014.02.06 12:07:00 -
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I think ISD has a hictor point. Constructive criticism is lacking. Stub your toe into the table leg and the reason you are angry and have pain is your brain's interpretation of the circumstances, not the table leg itself. If you had true control over your brain then you could choose whether an injury should make you feel pain or pleasure. "I tread on a lego, no reason to feel pain from such a trivial event, I should feel pleasure because I am privileged to have legs at all" - Does not happen. When you tread on a Lego, do you feel in control? No. Our insanely strong instinct in such a circumstance is to jump up and down and shout curses. We have different but equally strong instincts when it comes to most threads. Some posts make us feel insanely happy, others make us feel insanely annoyed and superior. And when some poor fool make a post that make us feel insanely annoyed and superior, at no fault of the poor fool, then we get ourselves a warning for insulting someone. Because we mistakenly shout about the table-leg as the cause of our current pain.
Usually ideas are like rings that have been thrown on the ground. The goal is to hit an invisible pole that no one can see or locate. Which idea is nearest to the pole (which idea is best), is unknown. But the other person's idea is the lego under your foot, and your idea is the lego under the other person's foot. So there you are, wasting your lives shouting about your lego-pieces. |

Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
109
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Posted - 2014.02.06 12:10:00 -
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I'm happy with the current state of the game but i come here to enjoy the whinings. |
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1608
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:51:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:You don't even make sense. You want known scammers that not only scam but humiliate people in the ISD but some ancient Dev cheat is your justification for it? Guy should be your hero the way you are talking. And more ancient history. The CSM was created to provide checks and balance so T20 would not happen again. It's their mandate to assure total morons don't find there way into the ISD. Or anywhere else for that matter. Mr Epeen 
So just because something is old it means its insignificant and shouldn't ever be mentioned again, you must work in the legislative branch. Good to know you're part of the problem when it comes to history.
There are rules to being an ISD that make it so if you are doing bad things to people horrible things happen to you so it doesn't matter they literally cannot abuse their power but, do provide another point of view to moderation. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |

Deadonstick
Protagonists Of Doom
5
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:04:00 -
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Two reasons.
1: The reason OP mentioned, people spend more time feeling smug and talking other people down rather than being constructive. Sometimes I need to double check the HTML address to see if I haven't accidentally navigated to /b/.
2: Because there is a huge player base in EVE which are very casual players, they love to log in every now and again, do a mission or two and log out again. EVE has more adults in it than any other game, and they tend to have less time. As a result the time they do have they'd rather actually play the game rather than improve it through the forums. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
702
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:10:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:the topic is bullshit, eve is full of buffed up hyper macho space men. anything else, its just the liberal media and their lies.
source: i heard it on comms, so it must be true.
I am always confused about why billionaires buy up media outlets in order to churn out liberal bias? surely they should be pilloried as class traitors and they should turn over their propaganda machines to people promoting right wing ideals like making it easy for the rich not to pay tax and to support the rich with tax money to fund stupidly expensive programs no one wants or needs. wait isn't the concept of liberal media bias something put out by the media? this is too confusing. i never did understand metagaming. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1131

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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:12:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Let's be honest for a moment. The guy that convinces his marks to rub mayonnaise and miracle whip all over themselves so that he gets pictures to spread around for e-fame is not the best candidate for a moderator position.
That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Mynna in an ISD position. It's not so much about where you're from in game as it is about your actions, I think. I'm not entirely sure what the rules for recruitment are, but if ISD Eshtir thinks someone is not qualified, that's a pretty good indication of crossing a line. Still, the line is definitely not "you must have a completely spotless record and always been a model citizen of Eve". I should know. At any rate, ISDs do not come under the same super-tight restrictions on gameplay with their main characters that CCP employees do.
So far as "diversity"... I can't really say much to that since we are anonymous even to each other, and only ever discuss our in-game origins in vague terms to give the rules a wide berth. Presumably someone like ISD Eshtir or CCP Falcon would know more about that. I certainly hope the membership is diverse! However I believe mynnna is ineligible due to the current involvement with the CSM.
Hir Miriel wrote: Some of the reasons are players competing for an ISD job or competing against old foes from in the game.
What? Sorry, but that's not a thing.
Muestereate wrote:I liked that idea about deleting general discussion. ISD certainly seems to have it in its cross-hairs So I guess CCP does also. Nah, that's just me for now, and I'm weird. I have no idea if other ISD or CCP like the idea.
Anyway, lots of good feedback (more than I could hope to individually respond to)! I will definitely stick around and bring this thread up with people who can actually effect change! Thanks!
ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
244
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:12:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote: liberal bias
dats an ock seymoran |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
885
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:20:00 -
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Personal opinions on the dire status of this forum include volunteer moderation (ISD should be a paying job so that they actually weigh their actions versus a paycheck, which is a better incentive than... "can I find an excuse to lock this thread or send it to a forum nobody reads?"
Also the deliberate defanging and slow death of CAOD as an active decision by CCP.
There is little else to do but whinge and make fun of people you disagree with as it stands, because real discussion is effectively stymied by institutional problems. I have nothing against any particular ISD, it's just that a professional game company has made some odd, poor decisions with regards to how they operate their forums. |

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
24
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:34:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Interestingly enough, one can say much the same thing about the game itself.
yeah i can see that where the only profession being left is some tupe of blob or numbers pvp and ganking pvp |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1132

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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:41:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Personal opinions on the dire status of this forum include volunteer moderation (ISD should be a paying job so that they actually weigh their actions versus a paycheck, which is a better incentive than... "can I find an excuse to lock this thread or send it to a forum nobody reads?"
Believe it or not, it is much easier to click the "Resolve report" button and not moderate an issue that someone reported than to go in and spend time reading stuff and making a decision about what to do. If there is any "finding excuses" involved in forum moderation, it's finding excuses to not touch a thread. Other than that, we do what we do because we genuinely believe that enforcing the forum rules in that way will result in a better experience.
The forum used to be moderated by employees only, but there were simply not enough of them, and they were not here around the clock, leading to "Mods are asleep, post ponies!" The only solution to that would be for CCP to outsource forum moderation to some call center type thing and... do you really want people who know nothing of Eve moderating the forum?
For now at any rate you're stuck with us  ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1113
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:58:00 -
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My experience of GD is that whiney little ***** posts get mercilessly trolled as they should be. Ask a decent question in a non-whiney-little-***** way and you get plenty of insightful responses with only a minimal amount of trolling. Propose an idea that has already been proposed 57 times before (and do it in the wrong forum); mercilessly trolled. Propose a get together in a London pub, ISD LackOfFaith moves it to out of game events, and everyone plans how to meet up and get smashed before the bobbies show up or whatever it is that happens in UK when a bunch of nerds get drunk.
Also, I'm not sure how you guys are getting away with discussing moderation. As a New Order representative, if I even brought up how a certain ISD treats our posts, I'd probably get this whole thread locked. And that is what is wrong with the eve-o forums in general. The overzealous moderation. When players have a legitimate gripe, we saw that all summer long. Just walking the line around the varying discriminatory preferences of the moderators when not gripeing is a huge pain. But, when I'm at work, its all I got, so I persevere. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1138

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Posted - 2014.02.06 16:00:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Also, I'm not sure how you guys are getting away with discussing moderation. I'm not supposed to moderate a thing I'm actively involved in, and trying to get someone else's attention on this thread has gone poorly so far. I'll try semaphores and signal fires next. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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