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Luwc
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
46
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Posted - 2014.02.25 13:10:00 -
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Irishdab Cadelanne wrote:Instead of locking out jita to players why not go in an kick out players that are spaming local all the time. This would lower server load and allow the people that pay for this game the access we want.
I would not have any issues with the spam if the server could handle the load but it clearly can't. This effects the game play for other users and in my view is not fair to us that want to trade.
I know Jita is a high volume system and it is run on it's own sever. But it's getting to the point where you need to decide.
- kick spamers out
or
- Give Jita a second server till the spamers fill it up as well.
+1
Lock Jita local. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19617
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Posted - 2014.02.25 13:14:00 -
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Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
694
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Posted - 2014.02.25 13:41:00 -
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Okay trying to get back on topic...
Someone said this isn't a hardware issue but rather an issue with the game software. I will look for the dev post on this when I get on my computer.
Calling not being able to get into a system due to the game not being able to handle the load PVP is just silly. If anything this just prevents PVP by not allowing more pilots to compete. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1364
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Posted - 2014.02.25 13:54:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Okay trying to get back on topic...
Someone said this isn't a hardware issue but rather an issue with the game software. I will look for the dev post on this when I get on my computer.
Calling not being able to get into a system due to the game not being able to handle the load PVP is just silly. If anything this just prevents PVP by not allowing more pilots to compete.
It's an issue with players ignoring limitations of inanimate objects and placing unnecessary limitations on animate objects. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1744
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1425
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:47:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number.
HI!!! --------> <------- I'm a link! "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
329
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:48:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number.
Cap is in place because of session changes. Spammers actually don't put much stress on the node at all. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19623
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:50:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Wrong. Nope. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Mag's
the united SCUM.
16816
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:52:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number. Just reposting this.
CCP Explorer wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪa cap that is set to accommodate the 1175 non-spammers and the 1000 spammers. If you were to remove the spammers, somehow, the cap would be set to 1175 instead since that's how much load the system can take (after all, the spammers don't contribute to that load). The cap is set based on the load generated by the players logging or jumping into the system. Removing the people that add nothing to that load would just reveal that the actual cap is 1175, so you'd still have just as many slots available for the non-spammers and you'd still not get in. Again what Tippia said.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2793
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:53:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number.
You are incomparably ignorant. I would say that I'm surprised, but this is far from the stupidest thing you have ever said. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
2032

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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:36:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number. Just reposting this. CCP Explorer wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪa cap that is set to accommodate the 1175 non-spammers and the 1000 spammers. If you were to remove the spammers, somehow, the cap would be set to 1175 instead since that's how much load the system can take (after all, the spammers don't contribute to that load). The cap is set based on the load generated by the players logging or jumping into the system. Removing the people that add nothing to that load would just reveal that the actual cap is 1175, so you'd still have just as many slots available for the non-spammers and you'd still not get in. Again what Tippia said. A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1744
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:24:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number. HI!!! -------->  <------- I'm a link! lol That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1434
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:30:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number. HI!!! -------->  <------- I'm a link! lol That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer.
Look at the post just above yours...
Hi! I'm not a link --------> <--------- but I am laughing at you.
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2798
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:32:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Tippia wrote:Luwc wrote:Lock Jita local. GǪexcept, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out. Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number. HI!!! -------->  <------- I'm a link! lol That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer.
Look at the post above yours, numbskull. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1435
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:42:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:lol That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer. Look at the post above yours, numbskull.
This is what happens when you have spreadsheet application devs theorycrafting Eve Online. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19626
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:43:00 -
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Humour. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1744
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:45:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Look at the post above yours, numbskull.
I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1447
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:56:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Look at the post above yours, numbskull.
I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull.
Hi! ------> <------- I'm a link!
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2802
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Posted - 2014.02.26 00:23:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Look at the post above yours, numbskull.
I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull.
Here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. The only poster on the forums who can argue against a blue saying:
CCP Explorer wrote:A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Just because I told them about it. Now that is antagonism, some of you could learn from this. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1449
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Posted - 2014.02.26 00:28:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Look at the post above yours, numbskull.
I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull. Here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. The only poster on the forums who can argue against a blue saying: CCP Explorer wrote:A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Just because I told them about it. Now that is antagonism, some of you could learn from this.
It's that kind of posting that makes these forums not only educational and informative, but entertaining too!!
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2803
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Posted - 2014.02.26 00:31:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Look at the post above yours, numbskull.
I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull. Here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. The only poster on the forums who can argue against a blue saying: CCP Explorer wrote:A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Just because I told them about it. Now that is antagonism, some of you could learn from this. It's that kind of posting that makes these forums not only educational and informative, but entertaining too!!
If you want a good laugh, read the link in his sig. Or better yet, his thread in Assembly Hall about timers, if you can find it. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1452
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Posted - 2014.02.26 00:49:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Or better yet, his thread in Assembly Hall about timers, if you can find it.
Reading it now. 
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2803
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Posted - 2014.02.26 00:55:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Or better yet, his thread in Assembly Hall about timers, if you can find it. Reading it now. 
I take full credit for his deciding that timers should be gone entirely. You know, since he was trying to make them 48 hours instead. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1456
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Posted - 2014.02.26 01:13:00 -
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I have to say that so far my favorite is this gem...
Quote:Players and Player actions should always be > Server.
And...
Quote:Imo player actions and player made content (such as sneak attacks in deserted systems) should have priority over automation as much as possible.
Both from that thread.
And this...
Quote:Yeah this fantastic logic. "There's no problem with the application because if there was the users would have worked around it years ago.".
And other similar examples of monstrous hypocrisy in this thread.
So let's recap - the server should NOT give warnings to people when their stuff is being shot at because Players > Server. But we need divine intervention to fix Jita because Server > Players.
LOL.
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2803
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Posted - 2014.02.26 01:17:00 -
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The really funny part is when you realize that he doesn't see any inconsistencies between them. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Lucy tzung
Deep Strike Mining Divison
2
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Posted - 2014.02.26 01:22:00 -
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drop jitas sec to -0.9 just for 24 hours, and lock the stations lol (never take me serious) |

EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1872
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Posted - 2014.02.26 01:26:00 -
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Don't get in the way of his narrative, CCP developer. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
881
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Posted - 2014.02.26 01:26:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:So let's recap - the server should NOT give warnings to people when their stuff is being shot at because Players > Server. But we need divine intervention to fix Jita because Server > Players.
Exactly. :) No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1456
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Posted - 2014.02.26 01:35:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:So let's recap - the server should NOT give warnings to people when their stuff is being shot at because Players > Server. But we need divine intervention to fix Jita because Server > Players. Exactly. :)
Oh my... there's more!
Quote:Thats not possible if the server prevents players from creative play.
How dare the server prevent players from creative play (unless I personally approve of said creative play)!
This is pure gold.
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Divine Entervention
The Lonetrek Militia Rapidus Incitus Pactum
36
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Posted - 2014.02.26 03:47:00 -
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I can't fix jita |
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