So with the current size of battles that are happening in 0.0 where you have to implement Tidi to make it playable at all, and the fact that Jita is frequently being capped to save the node dying. Would you conclude that it is logical to assume that the current hardware that Eve is run on is insufficient for it's intended purpose going forward?

Spammers in Jita local don't contribute to the load that much since chat is on its own nodes. The load in Jita primarily stems from the traffic to and from the system, i.e., the transport, pilots jumping in and out of the system and docking/undocking. A fair amount of processing goes into delivering the market transactions (but the market itself is on another node). Then there is always some pew-pew to process.

Jita is by far the largest market hub in EVE but we cap it at 2175 pilots. Jita has a dedicated node to itself, one of the fleet fight nodes. Next are Amarr, Dodixie, and Rens. We don't cap them but dedicate Amarr on regular hardware.

Top stations are:

Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant
Amarr VIII (Oris) - Emperor Family Academy
Dodixie IX - Moon 20 - Federation Navy Assembly Plant
Rens VI - Moon 8 - Brutor Tribe Treasury

Just by being in the system they are adding to load. Unless of course you are denying player count in system has any impact at all.... Just kick them the hell out and give Jita a channel that can be accessed anywhere like other channels. No matter what you say, the amount of spammers is ridiculous and people need to get in and out trade.

or

allow us to buy / sell in adjacent systems and use NPC transporters to move the orders in and out of the system.

Something Like

Right click - Buy item X
Select option to request item be delivered to your station/stystem (extra isk charge on top)
complete purchase
After 30 seconds, the item appears in your inventory with a notification that NPC X corp has delivered your items. This can only be done in the systems adjacent to the 4 main hub systems.

With the odd rare event and one out of 7,500 systems being the only exceptions to the rule that the game chugs along quite nicely, it rather seems logical to assume that the current hardware is sufficient.

I also doubt many MMO servers can match the tech specs of Tranquility as outlined in this PC Gamer article from last year:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/15/eve-online/


But seriously people, why do you HAVE to go to Jita? I mean okay, some very rare items are usually found only there, but for nearly everything else mundane you can actually get better profits from other superhubs (Dodixie, Amarr, Rens), or even smaller local hubs (for example, Hek).

Its not true that better deals can be found elsewhere. Primarily for the best profit you MUST go to Jita to trade. Both supply and demand make it the number one hub to do business for maximum profits.

Just by being in the system they are adding to load.

Unless of course you are denying player count in system has any impact at all.

No matter what you say, the amount of spammers is ridiculous and people need to get in and out trade.

allow us to buy / sell in adjacent systems and use NPC transporters to move the orders in and out of the system.

Its not true that better deals can be found elsewhere. Primarily for the best profit you MUST go to Jita to trade. Both supply and demand make it the number one hub to do business for maximum profits.

Its not true that better deals can be found elsewhere. Primarily for the best profit you MUST go to Jita to trade. Both supply and demand make it the number one hub to do business for maximum profits.

"This is getting worst". Aside from the butchery of the English language I doubt waiting 3 minutes on the gate spamming jump is the "worst" thing than can happen in EVE.

Amarr - Slaver scum
Rens - Pauper scum
Dodixie - Scum scum

No.

x = Time Dilation will be at 100% most of the time, stay between 80-100% nearly all of the time, and only very rarely go below 80%.

I also doubt many MMO servers can match the tech specs of Tranquility as outlined in this PC Gamer article from last year:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/15/eve-online/

Repetitive thread is repetitive.

ED: Adding relevancy.

Current Eve server hardware is probably one of the best, if not the best, hardware in the whole gaming industry.

Also, just like in-game battles, if you increased the server cap of Jita it would just be a matter of time before we reach that cap again. Maybe less quickly than for eve battles but still.

So with the current size of battles that are happening in 0.0 where you have to implement Tidi to make it playable at all, and the fact that Jita is frequently being capped to save the node dying. Would you conclude that it is logical to assume that the current hardware that Eve is run on is insufficient for it's intended purpose going forward?

As been said before, the biggest limiting factor to eve right now is the old code that was designed for single core units, and is not very well suited to be scaleable. Back when eve was made the big things was more GHZ. Then a few years later, intel dropped the core two duo/dual core processor, so the trend switched from MORE GHZ to MORE CORES. If you have code, that's can't scale across cores very easily then it won't matter how many cores you have, it still won't efficiently use them.

I used this analogy before, TQ is like the smoothest, flattest, more frictonless and aero dynamic road you can get. The code is a pinto. You are trying to drive a pinto down this perfect raod and expect it to go like a farari. It can't, cause its a ******* pinto.

So they seem to be slowly fixing old code, like the crime watch, bounty and other fixes. With things like brain in the box in the works, and other fixes we should see a huge improvement. EvE REALLY needs a rewrite in areas that can not be changed over easily. Then would make a huge improvement. But there is still no other game out there that can event remotely handle 2k+ people in one system doing things. at one time jita had I think 5k in it and was running decently, but that was ages ago and I could be wrong.

That's pretty much it. In terms of hardware we look at the balance between high CPU clock frequency and high memory bus bandwidth and then work on the legacy systems that need to be improved and/or multi-threaded.

I suspect this is nothing more than an AFK cloaking thread...

First off, there is nothing I've seen that said the population issue is due to bot spammers. I would venture to guess they are actually a small percentage of the thousands of players in Jita at any given time.

Second, It's not CCP's problem. CCP didn't make Jita the #1 trade hub in the universe, players did.

Don't like it? Speak with your isk. Go spend it at one of the other trade hubs.

Since it was locked I could not add my constructive comment about kicking out the bot spam.

Instead of locking out jita to players why not go in an kick out players that are spaming local all the time. This would lower server load and allow the people that pay for this game the access we want.

I would not have any issues with the spam if the server could handle the load but it clearly can't. This effects the game play for other users and in my view is not fair to us that want to trade.

I know Jita is a high volume system and it is run on it's own sever. But it's getting to the point where you need to decide.

- kick spamers out

or

- Give Jita a second server till the spamers fill it up as well.

Just by being in the system they are adding to load. Unless of course you are denying player count in system has any impact at all.... Just kick them the hell out and give Jita a channel that can be accessed anywhere like other channels. No matter what you say, the amount of spammers is ridiculous and people need to get in and out trade.

or

allow us to buy / sell in adjacent systems and use NPC transporters to move the orders in and out of the system.

Something Like

Right click - Buy item X
Select option to request item be delivered to your station/stystem (extra isk charge on top)
complete purchase
After 30 seconds, the item appears in your inventory with a notification that NPC X corp has delivered your items. This can only be done in the systems adjacent to the 4 main hub systems.