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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:55:00 -
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Do what my alliance name tells you to do!
Oh, you want reasons to do it? Bah. Some people are just never satisfied.
I guess I should start with an introduction. I'm a High-sec industrialist, who dabbles in Faction Warfare, and who has been going on the Ganked roams for a while. I'm also a third party developer, who runs https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ and http://evebloggers.com/
I ran for election last year, and was only stopped from being elected by the fact that CCP stole the position from me, by not having the CSM being 18 people
You may have run into a number of the applications which I've written, such as https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/ and https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/ . There are a bunch of other tools on the site, and a bunch more that I have rattling round my head, but can't implement until CCP get round to releasing first SSO and then
authenticated CREST. They have the potential to be real game changers with the metagame. CREST has to be managed carefully, to stop it from being used for bots, and other nefarious purposes. As a developer who works on tools for the general community, and as an active member of developer community, I'd say I'm in a good position to act as advocate and watch dog for it.
The rest of this post will be a series of statements, to give you insight into how I think. As the CSM is a lobbying body and a sounding board for proposed changes, an idea of how I'll react to things is valuabe. I might suggest changes, but I make no promises on them, as anyone that does, is lying to you.
The majority of my ISK is made by manufacturing Tech 2 things in a highsec POS. My RSI is crying out for changes to how the process runs. Not complete automation, as that would destroy the play style, but work to smooth it out and reduce the clicks. I've a few thoughts on fairly significant changes, such as pushing it to a more process based style, where you can set up a chain of activities and as long as you keep it fed, it just ticks over, but changing the chain costs time and possibly resources.
The core of Mining shouldn't change. The 'Target an asteroid, and let the mining lasers cycle' isn't a bad mechanic at its core. Not particularly fun, but sometimes relaxing to let run, much like ship spinning. If you want the frantic pace of PvP, well, you'd be blowing someone up. However, I'd like to see more structure built up around it. To be frank, respawning asteroid belts offend me. I'd like to see some kind of prospecting mechanism to find a good asteroid field to mine, and some kind of claim system for good rocks; mine a claimed roid, go suspect. For casual miners, I'd like to see them sub contracting to the major (npc) mining corporations, giving a cut of their proper ore but keeping the rest.
I'd like to see jump bridging done away with, replaced with the ability to carry ships along with you, when you jump. This would be for carriers, super carriers, Titans and Black Ops. (A carrier/blops can jump a squad, Super carrier a wing, titan a fleet? probably more complicated than that)
I'd like to see a Modular Freighter, where you can swap out large blocks (like subsystems) to change the stats. Not giving them slots for regular modules as that'd be really hard to balance. But the choice between fitting all cargo modules, or fitting one cargo module and the rest as defensive ones. Or warp speed ones for when you don't want your brain to ooze between your ears.
CREST. Oh so much CREST. I want the game to be playable without requiring an external third party client to do anything. But a third party client might make things easier, or give extra capabilities. Like letting a fleet commander get his people to register, then have it give them a plan of who to put where, and what fleet doctrines can be flown. Removing the requirement for the grey area of cache scraping for market data would also be wonderful. (Yes, I know that's not all cache scraping is used for. I'm not forgetting you, people who write fitting tools)
NPC corporations need tweaked. I'd like to see there be more benefits for not being in them. Sometimes that's requiring a small nerf. Sometimes that's not giving NPC corp members new abilities. https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/2014/02/07/csm-npc-corporations/ goes into more detail.
I've not had to suffer through Sov warfare. I'm really grateful for this. Now, large fleet fights have their place, and I'm aware that people like them. That's all find and good. But the large fleet fight shouldn't be the base unit of sov warfare. So, I'd like to see more small gang targets for the sov grind. Rate limited so huge corporations can't just steam roller in an off timezone, but meaningful. The huge throwdowns should be a riskier event, but one with a bigger pay out. ( https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/2013/01/23/making-sov-more-fun/ is an older post. Not entirely valid now, but you can get the main thrust)
(cont) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:56:00 -
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I like Dust. I'd like the link to be more meaningful though. A tie to the smaller targets in Sov Warfare, perhaps. And some coop PvE would be good.
Local. I'm not advocating the removal of local. I'd prefer replacing it with a proper intelligence system, that starts off at pretty much nothing in 0.0, but can be upgraded (and hence attacked) with player effort. It'd be nice to be able to scan someone's ship, and make the details available to other friendlies in system, without the need for a third party system. To use something like the ESS to flag people entering.
Cloaks. AFK cloaking is bad gameplay. I'd like to see the ability to shut down your ship, and fall off scan, but if you just cloak, you can be, with effort, traced and decloaked at range. If you're there, you can move to avoid it. If you're not, you're at risk. Don't want to be found? Turn your ship 'off', to become a whole in space, with no chance of being scanned down. Do it with a cloak, in a place you expect people to turn up, and you can set up a hot drop.
Corporation management is a crying shame at the moment. This is a place CREST could do wonders, if it's reworked to being a decent, nested, granular permissions model. Grant permissions on specific things, to specific groups, which you can add people to. That would solve most problems people have with it.
Low-Sec needs a draw for people who don't live there. Victims, as they're often called. The first thing that comes to mind for that is something lucrative, but which you can't do that often a day. So you have a reason to risk your skin in Low-Sec, but can't just farm it.
If you have any questions, ask away. I'll try and answer any question. Even if it might be "I don't know". Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:59:00 -
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reserved Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Logix42
Taxation Damnation
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:52:00 -
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One thing about you that I know, you're willing to work hard on all things EVE. This is evident by how quickly you turn out the SDE conversions and the work you put into your tools. I like this and will give you serious consideration as one of my top choices. Go beyond the edge of space... Explore |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:17:00 -
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If CCP would ask you to choose one part of UI they should tweak / fix / improve / revamp ASAP what would you say? And why that one? I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:27:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:If CCP would ask you to choose one part of UI they should tweak / fix / improve / revamp ASAP what would you say? And why that one?
Ack, nasty nasty question. So potentially loaded.
From a purely selfish point of view, I'd have to point at industry. specifically job entry. Doing invention involves doing pretty much exactly the same thing many many times, with around 6 clicks per job, in varying places on the screen. Being able to do the same job again, going into the next free slot in an array would help a great deal. (Being able to put in multiple at the same time would help more)
From a less selfish POV, I'd like to be able to, probably on hover, see how much time is left on a module cycling. Ideally modified by the current ti-di.
So you know that, going siege red, it's going to take another 20 minutes real time to have it switch off.
Actual numbers are useful, rather than the 'that's about two thirds through a cycle which takes Y seconds, and I'm in 23% tidi' Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
roigon
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:29:00 -
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I will be voting for steve.
As a 3rd party dev myself I think it's very important to have someone on the CSM who brings that viewpoint to the table, who knows what CREST is, and what it potentially could mean and who can give CCP great feedback on what the 3rd party community needs and wants. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1415
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:02:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Ack, nasty nasty question. So potentially loaded.
I will take it as a compliment :)
I agree with you on module cycle timers, they need to be brought in line and improved to properly function in nowadays Eve environment. Not to mention cool down timers on mods like cloaks or MJD. Click to check is not exactly great UI.
I know nothing about industry but I can see very often complains about UI almost working against you instead of for you so I guess it is not only your selfish POV.
Would you say that industry should be revamped as a whole to make it more attractive to players that now don't really feel, let's say "desire" towards it? Or you think any change to make more players go into that activity would just end up with equivalent of "exploration" pushing sites into our faces, loot spew and other silly things that would stripped veil of exclusiveness out of it and plummet income of those who can bear current inconveniences and problems? I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:19:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Ack, nasty nasty question. So potentially loaded. I will take it as a compliment :) I agree with you on module cycle timers, they need to be brought in line and improved to properly function in nowadays Eve environment. Not to mention cool down timers on mods like cloaks or MJD. Click to check is not exactly great UI. I know nothing about industry but I can see very often complains about UI almost working against you instead of for you so I guess it is not only your selfish POV. Would you say that industry should be revamped as a whole to make it more attractive to players that now don't really feel, let's say "desire" towards it? Or you think any change to make more players go into that activity would just end up with equivalent of "exploration" pushing sites into our faces, loot spew and other silly things that would stripped veil of exclusiveness out of it and plummet income of those who can bear current inconveniences and problems?
The exclusiveness of industry shouldn't be down to fighting with the interface. It's down to the logistics. Running the numbers to make sure that what you're doing is profitable, and a good use of your time.
I'm fairly comfortable with that were it is. There are tools out of game to help, or you can do your own sheets.
I'd like to see reductions in the number of high-sec industry slots, with a lower barrier to entry on getting slots in space. And the ability to anonymously rent slots out to people (use an NPC to ship the materials to the structure in space)
Throw in limits on how many slots you're allowed to use in stations, and you provide a slightly more level playing field against nullsec, and reasons to have Manufacturers in PC corps, while not impacting new bros too much.
It's not a quick and easy change though. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Doomchinchilla
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:24:00 -
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Steve has my vote! His fuzzwork apps have been so much help to more people than probably realize it in EVE.
+10 votes |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:30:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote: Cloaks. AFK cloaking is bad gameplay. I'd like to see the ability to shut down your ship, and fall off scan, but if you just cloak, you can be, with effort, traced and decloaked at range. If you're there, you can move to avoid it. If you're not, you're at risk. Don't want to be found? Turn your ship 'off', to become a whole in space, with no chance of being scanned down. Do it with a cloak, in a place you expect people to turn up, and you can set up a hot drop.
Cloaks =/= AFK cloaking
Anyway what do you think about changes to power projection ? Also further nerf of afk gameplay similar to drone assist nerf, that would be changing the "anchoring" mechanic ? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:13:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote: Cloaks. AFK cloaking is bad gameplay. I'd like to see the ability to shut down your ship, and fall off scan, but if you just cloak, you can be, with effort, traced and decloaked at range. If you're there, you can move to avoid it. If you're not, you're at risk. Don't want to be found? Turn your ship 'off', to become a whole in space, with no chance of being scanned down. Do it with a cloak, in a place you expect people to turn up, and you can set up a hot drop.
Cloaks =/= AFK cloaking Anyway what do you think about changes to power projection ? Also further nerf of afk gameplay similar to drone assist nerf, that would be changing the "anchoring" mechanic ?
I know AFK cloaking isn't all use of cloaks That's why I'm not suggesting a decloak mechanic. The idea is:
- you can scan down the grid someone cloaked is on. So they're /somewhere/ within 150km of where you land.
- Using dscan, you can get an idea of their direction.
- If they're not moving erratically, you can eventually work out where they are.
So someone there won't be cause. Someone who isn't will be found.
The AFK cloaker isn't a problem. Right up to the point they come back, and cease being afk. There's no difference from the outside.
Anyway, power projection.
Right now, having Titans gives you subcap superiority in terms of power projection, with the use of bridging. And you don't need to risk the titan. As mentioned, I'd like to give carriers the ability to bring ships in with them (Be carriers in fact, rather than big drone boats). Titans at that point, are just carriers writ large (with DDs) No bridging. So the ships have to be risked. A cool down for jumping may also be in order, but I'll leave that to people with a better grasp of Null sec warfare. I'm an outsider looking in.
As for anchoring, I have fewer problems with it. If the anchor is taken out, you can end up with a significantly worse situation. Such as the case of the interceptors that ran into Ganked 103. They were approaching their anchor. When it went pop (Brimaried by a bunch of Rifters) Everyone came to a halt. And got slapped for it. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.14 20:29:00 -
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what is your stance on Follow me on twitter |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.14 21:01:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:what is your stance on
I'm entirely against it. People who are for it are idiots who should be neutered for the sake of humanity. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:23:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:HVAC Repairman wrote:what is your stance on I'm entirely against it. People who are for it are idiots who should be neutered for the sake of humanity.
softy, neutering allows the possibility of cloning
But I agree with the stand against
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Dracoth Simertet
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:32:00 -
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+1 top bloke supported
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Sugar Kyle
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
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Posted - 2014.02.15 03:19:00 -
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I voted for you last year and I'll vote for you this year. Low Sec Lifestyle : An Eve Online Blog Candidate for CSM9 |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:36:00 -
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CCP looks to be concentrating on industry somewhat this year, so you have my vote again this year.
If I could ask one thing: I've done invention enough to realize that the user interface was designed to build SQL statements to traverse a set of tables. In other words, the user interface isn't designed at all, it's just an extension of the model. I know that you can't ~demand~ anything, but can you urge CCP to allow the UI designers free reign in actually designing the interface from a user perspective, and leave any translation to the database to the controller which (presumably!) sits between the model and the view?
Failing that, could you politely insist that they implement MVC? ;-)
Thanks, and good luck! Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.15 14:00:00 -
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Will trade beers in vegas for votes.
Glad to see you running Steve! - Id say again, but you never stopped! Mangala Undocked |
Billy Hix
Team JK
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:35:00 -
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You have both of my votes as a thank you for the tools you have made us.
GL |
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Selena Cadelanne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.16 12:47:00 -
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absolutely, my votes, all my friends votes and anybody else i can convince. You are exactly the right kind of advocate for the things you mentioned in your post. I have been plugging your services in local wherever i go in new eden and someone asks for info about manufacturing/invention/bp's etc. :)
go steve! |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.16 18:40:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:CCP looks to be concentrating on industry somewhat this year, so you have my vote again this year.
If I could ask one thing: I've done invention enough to realize that the user interface was designed to build SQL statements to traverse a set of tables. In other words, the user interface isn't designed at all, it's just an extension of the model. I know that you can't ~demand~ anything, but can you urge CCP to allow the UI designers free reign in actually designing the interface from a user perspective, and leave any translation to the database to the controller which (presumably!) sits between the model and the view?
Failing that, could you politely insist that they implement MVC? ;-)
Thanks, and good luck!
It's a little more complicated than that.
Many things interact with the state within a solar system, rather than directly with the database, with an occasional syncing between them (look at the assets ui for an example)
You are, however, entirely right. The UI should come from the game play perspective, rather than the underlying data storage. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Zappity
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
823
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:03:00 -
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Supported. Not a difficult decision. Extremely helpful and useful site. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Achanjati
Royal Amarr Science Institute
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Posted - 2014.02.17 11:32:00 -
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Nice reading so far. I don't agree in all points, but in general it sounds good.
If you would be in charge, how would you design a bpo-api?
And which ways do you see how we researchers could benefit from CREST? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.17 11:55:00 -
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Achanjati wrote:Nice reading so far. I don't agree in all points, but in general it sounds good.
If you would be in charge, how would you design a bpo-api?
And which ways do you see how we researchers could benefit from CREST?
There are two APIs I can see being useful for blueprints.
The first is a variation of the assets API, just for blueprints, with attributes for ML, PL, runs, and a flag for if it's a copy or not. This would have to be an authenticated API. Either CREST or the older style would be fine.
The other would be similar to user provided details, as a public CREST endpoint providing blueprint details. Similar to https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/xml/16229/75/5
It's a lot less important, as all the details are provided via static data extract and can be provided by people like yours truly. Nice to have, but that's it. Static data doesn't need it anywhere near so much.
As for CREST, I'm in two minds about using it for research. If it allows for jobs to be put in without user intervention (if it can be automated, it would be. And any write can be automated) then it would massively affect industry. in POS, for example, all jobs would be single run to reduce liability (Unless there are changes made to disadvantage short runs)
Part of me says: automate and be damned. But the more considered part days that would screw up newbies. You shouldn't need to use a third party tool, to be competitive. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Achanjati
Royal Amarr Science Institute
13
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Posted - 2014.02.17 12:52:00 -
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Thanks for your answers. I fully agree on your concerns about possible automatation. On the other hand, it could be an interesting experiment to play the game with the UI we build for our own within the limitations of CREST.
Anyways, Count on my votes. |
Arkonen Tsutola
Forward Innovations
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:59:00 -
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1) Epic toolset built to help the community excel. 2) Approachable demeanor with old and new players alike. 3) Passion for the Indy/Manu side of the game.
You have my votes.
(ps. thanks again for being so approachable to indy newbies)
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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
130
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Posted - 2014.02.17 18:10:00 -
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What is your view on CCP's Carbon framework, is it a success or a failure ?
Compared to other game engines out there, it seems to hardly be impressive or even do it's job well.
How do you think you as a future CSM member can influence the allocation of resources by CCP's upper management concerning this ? Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.17 19:34:00 -
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Freelancer117 wrote:What is your view on CCP's Carbon framework, is it a success or a failure ? Compared to other game engines out there, it seems to hardly be impressive or even do it's job well. How do you think you as a future CSM member can influence the allocation of resources by CCP's upper management concerning this ?
Carbon is under on-going development. Recently DX 11 was integrated. That's still being worked on.
You have to admit, the video on the Carbon development is pretty impressive. Sure, there's now TressFX for doing hair stuff, but that's released around 2-3 years later.
The Avatar stuff /looks/ good. It's not been developed any further, but that's due to player backlash. (Bit of a shame really. it /could/ be good, if they had content. Content comes first)
Sure, CCP could buy in a game engine, and refit Eve to use it. This would: A: Cost a bunch of time to reach the current state. B: Tie them to someone else's development timetable. C: Cost them money to actually license it, year on year.
Right now, I'd say: Stay the course. Of course, I don't know what's going on within CCP.
Of course, that's just the graphics side of it. The backend server would be kind of hard to buy in a replacement for. It's not like anyone else deals with the same number of users, on the same system.
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
130
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Posted - 2014.02.17 21:39:00 -
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Thanks for the great answer Steve, you will have my 2nd vote.
PS: I do agree that from now on, barring any stupid stuff from CCP hitting the gaming media, stuff will and have to be improved upon. Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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