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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:18:00 -
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it is a frikign railgun boat olrady 50%+ of the battle ships are caldari now we gona have the gunnery people fly the caldari battle ship to like the gallante but also other races.
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:19:00 -
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If you are saying that you dont' want a full Gunnery use battleship, then I don't think too many will agree with you. We already have the Raven for those who want missles, and this new one will be for gunnery. sounds logical to me.
demand is greater then supply = high price.
supply is greater then demand = low price.
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:19:00 -
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:20:00 -
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it should be a tanking boat specialized on shield tanking
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:20:00 -
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haven't you alraedy done this thread this week?
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:21:00 -
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And who said it won't be a tanking boat specialized in shield tanking? --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:21:00 -
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like the moa?
/me ducks
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Icek Villawrov
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:24:00 -
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There are people who use railguns. Caldari people who train railguns. Like me. i have over 1 million gunnery skillpoints. and a measly 45k missle skillpoints. I like rails. I liek it that this new battleship will be a rail platform.
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Marcus Druallis
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:25:00 -
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I just wish the Raven wasn't so damn ugly. Like, I'm a missle guy, and I'm hesitating to get into it... ----------------- Help the cause Support in station movement! |

Waut
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 it is a frikign railgun boat olrady 50%+ of the battle ships are caldari now we gona have the gunnery people fly the caldari battle ship to like the gallante but also other races.
caldari isnt 100% missiles M'kay? 
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Rorix Whitecloud
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Icek Villawrov There are people who use railguns. Caldari people who train railguns. Like me. i have over 1 million gunnery skillpoints. and a measly 45k missle skillpoints. I like rails. I liek it that this new battleship will be a rail platform.
Yeah same here... i have about twice the SP in gun skills than missile skills... tho i stoped training guns for a while so missile SP can catch up :P
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:37:00 -
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Mr. The Wizz117.
Caldari, believe it or not, have ships that aren't missile based. Moa, Ferox (though this can be used with missiles too), Merlin I guess, and a few others. The only class in which they are missing a ship that uses guns is the BS class, so it makes sense that there would be a ship here that is designed to use guns.
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CharlieMurphy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:48:00 -
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wtf i got to learn rails now ?
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: Phoenix Lord on 13/04/2006 00:52:16
Originally by: CharlieMurphy wtf i got to learn rails now ?
Nope, no one is forcing you to use the Tier 3 BSes.
EDIT: Btw, this is like gallente with rails and drones. Some people like using drones only while others like using rails only.
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Lyra VX
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Lyra VX on 13/04/2006 00:57:36 I think we should remove the Merlin, Harpy, Moa and Eagle from the game. They are clearly railgun-focused which is against Caldari tradition. Kindly replace the Merlin with the Kestrel B, the Harpy with the Kestrel C, the Moa with the Caracal B and the Eagle with the Cerberus B.
It it utterly unfair that any player should have to train more than 10 skills to use any ship at all (and that ship's intended weaponry) belonging to their own race.
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lyra VX Edited by: Lyra VX on 13/04/2006 00:57:36 I think we should remove the Merlin, Harpy, Moa and Eagle from the game. They are clearly railgun-focused which is against Caldari tradition. Kindly replace the Merlin with the Kestrel B, the Harpy with the Kestrel C, the Moa with the Caracal B and the Eagle with the Cerberus B.
It it utterly unfair that any player should have to train more than 10 skills to use any ship at all (and that ship's intended weaponry) belonging to their own race.
qft tbh.
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Pooka
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:14:00 -
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 Sweet, the 1.5 million skill points I train early in my career will finaly pay off.
I like new toys. BC2 ftw
 Besides I have all my missle skills train to at least level 4 and most at level 5. All the advance skills are curently at level 4.
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Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:24:00 -
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Most of ppl not understand about the wiz117 whine, it's not again caldari only can be a missile race.
it's just about Plz make the game more balanced so u can see several different BS instead than caldari caldari caldari caldari ships everywhere.
Hard to do when nearly all newplayers start as caldari, and other player still show missiles as the OMFGBBQDMG for easey-cheesey skills -------------------Sig----------------------- S.S.E. currently recruiting new players. Convo me or leave an eve-mail.
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Zekk Pacus
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:25:00 -
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We need a gunboat battleship. For starters it'll stop people going Kestrel, Caracal, Ferox with missiles, Raven, and start all the caldari kidz training rails and using that Ferox like it was supposed to be used. Not to mention we'll get a proper missileboat BC, which is also good because I have about the same skills in both missiles and gunnery.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing haven't you alraedy done this thread this week?
topic zombies?
ya, seems to be something or another repeated everyweek.
i think the person that originaly said "adapt or die" needs an award from ccp, for saying what has to be the only universal truth in eve.  
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Icek Villawrov There are people who use railguns. Caldari people who train railguns. Like me. i have over 1 million gunnery skillpoints. and a measly 45k missle skillpoints. I like rails. I liek it that this new battleship will be a rail platform.
i used rails as primary weapons up until I was able to use a raven, but when I used a ferox, I prefered rails as primary (yayaya, it is odd, but it was fun)
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:56:00 -
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why dont u leave the thread alone if u dont like it?
the man ahs a point, but dosnt know how to say it right ;)
i dont mind gettin a railboat, but tier3 sounds itll b better then tier2, and thatll make some serious headache and i hope those ships will fill a niche, but wont b a must. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Sidraket
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Posted - 2006.04.13 02:00:00 -
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Huh? Did i miss something? Have the >final< stats of the tier three ships been released? Its all been speculation up till now, today i check the forums and see two posts talking about the tier3 bs in a more solid and factual tone. Link?
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Zekk Pacus
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Posted - 2006.04.13 02:01:00 -
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Edited by: Zekk Pacus on 13/04/2006 02:01:57 I think the Caldari one will spread Caldari pilots out a little bit - no longer will you see every Caldari pilot going missiles missiles missiles but you might see some beginning to massively specialise in railguns.
The problem with creating Caldari ships in ship sizes that only have one or two (battlecruiser and BS, basically) is how do you decide? With the rest of the races that have one or two specialisations it's easier, but Caldari have three - we're known as ECM specialists, missile fiends and railgun lovers. How the hell do you create a ship that does all three without just having an 8/8/8 layout and some silly bonuses? (Ahem, where's my Jove battleship then? :D)
EDIT: Sidraket - the stats for the new ships are in the latest XML data export which is posted...uh, somewhere. They're not finalised by any means but are believed to be as close as possible to the final ship designs.
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Promon Delnai
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Posted - 2006.04.13 02:17:00 -
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Im looking forward to the T3 BS, being a missle user is fine and dandy but I'd like a turret battleship without training all the way up for another race.
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Zero35
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Posted - 2006.04.13 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing like the moa?
/me ducks
Now that was funny
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:27:00 -
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You can't allways geeet what you waaannnnnntttttt.
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Xenu
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:33:00 -
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i have trained well over 7 million missile skillpoints and am happy to see a caldari railboat.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 it is a frikign railgun boat olrady 50%+ of the battle ships are caldari now we gona have the gunnery people fly the caldari battle ship to like the gallante but also other races.
I hope you realize that the Raven was originally a railgun boat?
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2006.04.13 04:20:00 -
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Back in the day, the scorpion had railgun bonuses... Still, I have a modest 3.6m in gunnery and 2.2m in missiles and I have to say the only ship class I favor missiles over railguns in is battleships. I love railguns, I trained guns over missiles a long time ago, I've been waiting for a gunboat for a LONG time (even when the scorp had railgun bonuses it was still horrilby weak just because it has 6 highs with only a max of 4 of each weapon slots).
So I can't wait for it, and if it follows the gunboat tradition it will most likely have 5% resist bonus / level and 10% optimal range, this is debatable though because with spike you'd get insane range. There's no doubt it will have a superior tank, though those sneaky devs might fix it so you get awesome guns or an awesome tank, but not both (ala not quite enough grid hehe). Still, caldari battleship 5 ftw 
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