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Antdung
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Posted - 2006.05.23 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos Edited by: Trepkos on 14/05/2006 05:04:25 The future of EVE
Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > Hey whats up. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > Just doing level 4 missions constantly and contributing to the uneeded lagfest that is Jita. Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > So when will you be leaving Jita? Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > *Gasp* Never! The rest of EVE scares me and all I want to do is run missions in my raven, the only ship I need. Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > Heh, yep...good old raven. I hear some people actually have to use skill and intelligience in piloting their ships. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > Yeah, I hear some people don't run missions either. What a bunch of douches. Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > Yes, exactly, even though I have only played this game for four monthes I obviously know that the game was not intended for players to shoot each other. I wish people would quit abusing the mechanics. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > Yeah, a few of those exploiters almost got my freighter camping the Aunenen but luckily I logged off while cloaked. Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > Smart move, by the way I bought the new tier 3 caldari battleship. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > Yeah I heard it mainly uses rails, thats so lame. I never want to leave the easy setting of EVE. Me and Jita with missiles and ravens forever! Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > Ok dude chill out but you're right. I fitted some name large rails and tried it out on some 0.6 npc rats. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > And....? Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > So I couldnt hit the small frigates and I was confused so I petitioned it. Then some nice gentlemen in local pointed out how the tracking of my gun affected the way it hits objects. This confused me, then I looked at falloff and optimal range and this continued to confuse me and scare me. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > So what did you do? Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > What I do whenever Im confused and scared, log off. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > Did you make it out alright? Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > Ofcourse I did, I dont fly anywhere without atleast three warp core stabs fitted. Generic Caldari Pilot 2 > Yeah, stabs ftw, I would quit eve if there were no stabs or nice safe 1.0 space to infest with eventhough the space is meant for mainly newer players. Generic Caldari Pilot 1 > Yeah I sold the tier 3 battleship and petitioned it. I bought a new raven so I can continue doing missions with an absence of mind in a ship that does not require thought or intelligience to fly.
Hmmmm, someones a bit bitter about his lack of skills, it's a pitty people have to slant the way other people anjoy the diverse, multi-occupational game of eve
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.05.23 18:42:00 -
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Where did you get the info on the caldari t3 battleship? And is there any info about the gallente t3 battleship there?
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Risien Drogonne Where did you get the info on the caldari t3 battleship? And is there any info about the gallente t3 battleship there?
would it be a missile boat with 5% rof 5% damage and 8 missile launcher hardpoints?
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:07:00 -
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ok, still dont know what the problem is here , do you complain you cant fly an eagle becos you dont have the skills? wher eis it writen, Tho shalt fly all ships !!!! ? you got no gunnery skills, dont fly the damn thing, its not a must have item, its a feckin option. personally, im looking forward to it, cal bs 5 and training tech 2 large rails right now
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fireraven
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:16:00 -
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i personaly have been out of training for caldari for about 2 mounths now im happy to see them get a gun platorm as i all reayd have large guns ready for that ships :) insta damage ganking is fun i aint gonna give up my missle boat for those up clost fights but now i can actualy sniper and my damage get there in less then 30 secs lol
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: fireraven i personaly have been out of training for caldari for about 2 mounths now im happy to see them get a gun platorm as i all reayd have large guns ready for that ships :) insta damage ganking is fun i aint gonna give up my missle boat for those up clost fights but now i can actualy sniper and my damage get there in less then 30 secs lol
ur gona think so difrend aboud that after a few more months hehehhe when u have to "specialize and realize that 2 mil sp aint enough
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marioman
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Posted - 2006.05.23 20:50:00 -
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I train small and medium rail spec for harpy and eagle...then when i got to L rails i said hey wait a sec....theres nothing caldari has to use them on. So i then got gallente BS for the mega to use t2 large rails.
A new Caldari BS with rails (and enough grid to fit them) will be very nice. If you don't have gun skills, don't use it...simple as that. I for one will be proud to park the new caldari BS next to my mega for fleet battles. Atleast now I'll have a choice of which ship I want to wtfpwn from 200+ km with hehe.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: CharlieMurphy wtf i got to learn rails now ?
stfu - Try being minmatar. Not only do we have to put up with projectiles being less effective than a wet fart, but we also have to specialise in missiles, drones, shields, armour tanking, electronics, mechanics. Wait, thats called generalising. A LOT. So think about us poor minnies when you complain about having to learn more than 3 skills.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun
Originally by: CharlieMurphy wtf i got to learn rails now ?
If HAC prices are anything to go by, you'll probably have every weapon type at lvl 5 by the time T3 BS are affordable!!
HAC = tech 2, and t2 lottery in terms of supply
T3 BS = tech 1, and have an infinte supply of bpos. It'll just take a couple of months for the price to stabalise after enough people have researched the bpo enough.
If the destroyers and BC release are anything to go by though, CCP might seed some NPC sell orders at around the desired price...
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:27:00 -
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The minnie t3 BS looks waaaaaaaaay too much like the bellicose for me to be happy. I have a baaaaaaad feeling tux is gonna stick the dreaded target painting bonus on there just to **** us minnie users off. Although if it ends up a target painting, armor tanking, missile boat... things might become very interesting.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.05.23 21:39:00 -
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Actually to tell the truth Caldari were suposed to be long range and ewar ships all around and the missle ships were to fill the gap of medium to short range ships and the scorps was originally supposed to sit off at long range jam and snipe you while a raven swoops in and pounds the stuffing out of you,now the Scorp has turned totally Ewar dependant due to previous attempts at "balancing" so now there is no long range sniper ship and if your going to moan about using a crusie missle raven to snipe I think you should actually try it in a fight with 50 or more people,every fc on both sides will call you primary for causing evil amounts of lag and having crappy dps. Missle sniping is bad, the rail boats need love more then anything,their damage is low their rof is low,they don't have enough turrets,their defense sucks,they don't have a low enough mass to effectively dance around and popping their enemies because it takes abhorid amounts of cap to warp,so if anything make them have a point in the game and not be a running joke cuz the gal ships do the same job better.
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Kagero Machiko
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Posted - 2006.05.23 22:13:00 -
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I have more missile skills than gunnery because truthfully i'm terrible at gettign the range thing sorted with lots of targets, i couldnt hit the broadside of a titan with turrets but havign a new ship to try out and train with is a lot bette rthan just another BS to load my T2 launchers onto, plus with all the speculation of the Tier 2 BC being an upgrade caracal/missile puker i'll have a new toy to put my missile skills to use anyways and i have summat that may turn me to the darkside (turrets)
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Constantinee
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Posted - 2006.05.23 23:24:00 -
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Ok IMO i like to new caldari boat a sheild tanking turret ship is classic this will be a very good expirence and it will finally put some of my turret skills to use Personally id like to see a 8 missle slot ship with cruise bonuses but that would be the pwnzer :D Want a Cheap Sig?
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Kamikaaazi
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:11:00 -
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id like a 8 turret BS with 10% optimal and 20% jammer optimal with atleast 7 medslots :)
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene I have a character with 9.4 million skill points in missiles. The same character has Caldari BS 5 (of course) and every other skill a good missile-tossing / EW ownage girl should have.
She's now currently training Large Rail Level 5. Thank CCP that I don't have to train an entirely different race of BS now to have a decent firect-fire capability.
I understand the point of the OP, but I'm happy for this. T2 425mm with Spike L on a Caldari platform 4TW. 
Some ppl are such brown nosers...
I lub you devs! Thx for proving that you are money hungry and want us to waste our subscriptions training skills...
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.05.24 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinee Ok IMO i like to new caldari boat a sheild tanking turret ship is classic this will be a very good expirence and it will finally put some of my turret skills to use Personally id like to see a 8 missle slot ship with cruise bonuses but that would be the pwnzer :D
How do people post like that? Don't they notice that what they typed is incomprehensible? _________________________________________________________
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Plan Neun
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:10:00 -
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This is a mockery to all Caldari missile trained podpilots. That CCP are able to do such a thing is mildly said truly provoking.
The Caldari race is a missile specialized race and we now get punished to be true to this training. This is a stupid as making the Minmatar, Amarr and Gallente T3 battleships into missile boats!
So to CCP get a f***ing grip and give us what we have trained for.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Imperial Coercion on 25/05/2006 12:15:23 Edited by: Imperial Coercion on 25/05/2006 12:14:38
Originally by: Plan Neun This is a mockery to all Caldari missile trained podpilots. That CCP are able to do such a thing is mildly said truly provoking.
edit : YOu have what, 5 million sp in missiles? Most gunnery people have about 8-10 million per gun type (energy/artillary whatever) and now you moan and whine because you obviously have to train new skills? Oh noes!
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Plan Neun
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Imperial Coercion Edited by: Imperial Coercion on 25/05/2006 12:15:23 Edited by: Imperial Coercion on 25/05/2006 12:14:38
Originally by: Plan Neun This is a mockery to all Caldari missile trained podpilots. That CCP are able to do such a thing is mildly said truly provoking.
edit : YOu have what, 5 million sp in missiles? Most gunnery people have about 8-10 million per gun type (energy/artillary whatever) and now you moan and whine because you obviously have to train new skills? Oh noes!
Nice flamebait. 1) What I have in missile skills is none of ur concern 2) What I have in turret skills is also not of your concern.
If CCP realy mean this they should screw up ur T3 Battleships in the same manner, then I will not complain about anything.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Plan Neun This is a mockery to all Caldari missile trained podpilots. That CCP are able to do such a thing is mildly said truly provoking.
The Caldari race is a missile specialized race and we now get punished to be true to this training. This is a stupid as making the Minmatar, Amarr and Gallente T3 battleships into missile boats!
So to CCP get a f***ing grip and give us what we have trained for.
afaik no-one is MAKING u do anything.
u can CHOOSE not to use the new BS, however if u CHOOSE to fly it then the OPTION to train gunnery skills is available to u. -
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Imperial Coercion on 25/05/2006 12:24:39
Originally by: Plan Neun
If CCP realy mean this they should screw up ur T3 Battleships in the same manner, then I will not complain about anything.
How can they screw it up? CCP designs the ship the way THEY want it to be. Not because you dint like the thought of actually using turrets instead of launchers.
Infact I welcome any major change the Amarr t3 wil have compared to the geddon and apoc.
Variation ftw!
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Plan Neun
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Plan Neun on 25/05/2006 12:25:18
Originally by: mrg29
Originally by: Plan Neun This is a mockery to all Caldari missile trained podpilots. That CCP are able to do such a thing is mildly said truly provoking.
The Caldari race is a missile specialized race and we now get punished to be true to this training. This is a stupid as making the Minmatar, Amarr and Gallente T3 battleships into missile boats!
So to CCP get a f***ing grip and give us what we have trained for.
afaik no-one is MAKING u do anything.
u can CHOOSE not to use the new BS, however if u CHOOSE to fly it then the OPTION to train gunnery skills is available to u.
As stated above, if they are serious about this ref Tier3, then the other races should get missile boats. If things is done in a fare manner it's no problem, and then I will state to you, no-one is MAKING u do anything.
Case closed from my part.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:26:00 -
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If you are missile users, stick with the Raven. Why should caldari get a Raven mk.2 (Now with 20% added overpoweredness). Plenty of Caldari pilots want a railship too. Infact, those who want a railship are probably the real Caldari pilots who have trained all of their race's weapons instead of just going Caldari because T÷RpR4v3N Z0Mg L0l PwN5!!1!!11 Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, and not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes |

Plan Neun
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Plan Neun on 25/05/2006 12:30:01
Originally by: Jon Xylur If you are missile users, stick with the Raven. Why should caldari get a Raven mk.2 (Now with 20% added overpoweredness). Plenty of Caldari pilots want a railship too. Infact, those who want a railship are probably the real Caldari pilots who have trained all of their race's weapons instead of just going Caldari because T÷RpR4v3N Z0Mg L0l PwN5!!1!!11
It's not the point ofcourse I can use rails, I can also use other battleships. If CCP wanna mess up our T3 they should do the same towards the other races T3 battleships.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Plan Neun Edited by: Plan Neun on 25/05/2006 12:30:01
Originally by: Jon Xylur If you are missile users, stick with the Raven. Why should caldari get a Raven mk.2 (Now with 20% added overpoweredness). Plenty of Caldari pilots want a railship too. Infact, those who want a railship are probably the real Caldari pilots who have trained all of their race's weapons instead of just going Caldari because T÷RpR4v3N Z0Mg L0l PwN5!!1!!11
It's not the point ofcourse I can use rails, I can also use other battleships. If CCP wanna mess up our T3 they should do the same towards the other races T3 battleships.
yea like not another railgun boat for gallante not another laser boat for amarr and not another tacyon **** for minmatar..
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Kalppis
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Posted - 2006.05.25 12:55:00 -
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I'm Caldari and I'm very happy to get a rail BS (even though I CAN fly megathron too)
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marioman
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: marioman on 25/05/2006 15:42:44 Caldari's main weapons are: 1) Kinetic Missiles 2) Hybrid Railguns 3) EW...mostly ECM
They arent just ECM carrying missile lobbers. They have ships that are tailored for long range combat with rails. EVERY other Caldari ship class has atleast one ship with bonuses to hybrid optimal, which plays on a Railgun's strengths. The only class which doesnt have a true Railboat is Battleships.
Being a true Caldari pilot is as hard as being a true Minmatar pilot. Minmatar have to train guns, missiles, and drones. Caldari have to train guns, missiles and EW.
EDIT: To make a point if Caldari arent ment to use guns...WHY did I start the game with this character that had rockets lvl 1 AND small hybrid turrent lvl 1?
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:45:00 -
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may i also note that shield tanking is more skill-needed then armor tanking
and also only caldari are treu shield tankers. maybe some amarr ships.
so if u ever wana trian another racer ur gona have to train amorr tanking skilz.
other races dont have to do this, not even when being caldari becouse u can get good dps out of the ships while fitting a rack of Electronic warefare. and a small armor tank.
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aeti
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Posted - 2006.05.25 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 and also only caldari are treu shield tankers. maybe some amarr ships.
lol :\ ------
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Tedeski
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Posted - 2006.05.25 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 Edited by: The Wizz117 on 25/05/2006 15:59:36 may i also note that shield tanking is more skill-needed then armor tanking
and also only caldari are treu shield tankers. maybe some minmatar ships.
so if u ever wana trian another racer ur gona have to train amorr tanking skilz.
other races dont have to do this, not even when being caldari becouse u can get good dps out of the ships while fitting a rack of Electronic warefare. and a small armor tank.
Please refrain from using text talk. It makes it hard to read and me less willing to bother to read it.
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