it is for game balance

and, this is why you need to train to have basic drone skill. Because you suppose to use drone to kill frigates.

b/w wtf with this statement "fit a short range for short range" are you suggest current short range weapon is not short enough?

I am suggesting you could fit a special gun or missle launcher that could attack frigates close range, but otherwise are more or less useless. Drones don't work well enough, they can be lured away and picked off, besides in a drones even the heavy attack ones at max skill have a lousy shielding. I don't see why there should be a balance issue between cheap frigates with zero skill and a battleship with lots of skill and ISK. It shouldn't be that way.

you could fit a smaller gun, but that would sacrifice a larger gun. also the rapid launchers are capable somewhat, dont expect any ceptors to die easy though. unless you want both in which case no thank you. you either specialize or diversify.

I don't think you can fit a smaller gun on a battleship ... it should be possible.

I don't think you can fit a smaller gun on a battleship ... it should be possible.

I think it's a bad idea to have it impossible for battleships to track and shot any vessel within 10km. It's just unrealistic that a small ship can destroy a battleship and it's annoying on missions. At least it should be possible to fit a short range gun for short range.

Real life battleships would not be bothered by small boats , and real life large combat ships also of course have smaller guns. There should be a side-gun especially for dealing with the frigate - battleship imbalance. It's just too nonsensical that a single frigate can defeat a battelship in combat.

I am suggesting you could fit a special gun or missle launcher that could attack frigates close range, but otherwise are more or less useless. Drones don't work well enough, they can be lured away and picked off, besides in a drones even the heavy attack ones at max skill have a lousy shielding. I don't see why there should be a balance issue between cheap frigates with zero skill and a battleship with lots of skill and ISK. It shouldn't be that way.

is this an army of alts putting all this crap up?

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=322607

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=321843&find=unread

big ships dnt hit small ships because they are too small and fast. this is because of balance.

so you think that the huge guns on a battle ship should be able to follow (because that is what tracking is) a small fast moving ship and blow it out of the sky from 10Km with sniper precision?

talking about unrealistic!

You can. Nothing says you have to fit large weapons on your BS. We even have Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers now. I hear precision heavies are pretty good vs frigates. I know T1 cruise missiles are.

The balance issue comes down to the fairness of being rewarded for skill time spent and not only ISK and game time to earn that isk spent. That a 30 day account should be able to take down a 6 month skill set is not balance, it's making long time comitments to training skills and using game time pointless for players.

I think 10km is a pretty long distance even for 800mm guns.

That's a point, and if the RHML actually work at distances of 1km - 250m then I withdraw my sugestion.

The balance issue comes down to the fairness of being rewarded for skill time spent and not only ISK and game time to earn that isk spent. That a 30 day account should be able to take down a 6 month skill set is not balance, it's making long time comitments to training skills and using game time pointless for players.

The balance issue comes down to the fairness of being rewarded for skill time spent and not only ISK and game time to earn that isk spent. That a 30 day account should be able to take down a 6 month skill set is not balance, it's making long time comitments to training skills and using game time pointless for players.

As titans don't do missions or fly alone I don't think the comparisson is valid.

when are people going to get it through their heads? more expensive does not equal better. It never should and it never will otherwise why wouldn't everyone just run the best ship?

This is why cost is not an effective balancing factor.

This is true and is the whole point, and it is a flaw in the game that is exploited by griefers that don't dedicate time and effort to the game, but just log in once in a while with a cheap setup to shot ships.

On a scale from 1 to not at all, how well does the OP understand EvE?

This is true and is the whole point, and it is a flaw in the game that is exploited by griefers that don't dedicate time and effort to the game, but just log in once in a while with a cheap setup to shot ships.

I am suggesting you could fit a special gun or missle launcher that could attack frigates close range, but otherwise are more or less useless. Drones don't work well enough, they can be lured away and picked off, besides in a drones even the heavy attack ones at max skill have a lousy shielding. I don't see why there should be a balance issue between cheap frigates with zero skill and a battleship with lots of skill and ISK. It shouldn't be that way.

it is a flaw in the game that is exploited by griefers that don't dedicate time and effort to the game.

This is funny coming from somebody who didn't know you could fit smaller guns to a BS if you wanted and didn't even spend the 10 seconds it would take to test this before crying on the forums.

How about you dedicate some time and effort to learning how the game works and how to counter frigates instead of begging for CCP to spoonfeed you?

when are people going to get it through their heads? more expensive does not equal better. It never should and it never will otherwise why wouldn't everyone just run the best ship?

This is why cost is not an effective balancing factor.

Edit: And he is a 2004 character. Sigh.