I don't always log on every day, I would really appreciate if skills could be qued for e.g. a month at a time. It used to be that way, now there is a 24h barrier. I don't like the change.

Uhh. When did it used to be that way? We went from having no queue to having a 24 hour queue. There was never a month long queue.

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Actually, it has never been possible to queue up skills for more than 24 hours. What is, and has been possible since the introduction of the queue, is to add a long skill at the end of your skill queue, as long as it starts within 24 hours. That skill can even take a month to train, but has to start within 24 hours. It has always be

I don't always log on every day, I would really appreciate if skills could be qued for e.g. a month at a time. It used to be that way, now there is a 24h barrier. I don't like the change.

It was possible to que skills beyond the 24 hour barrier, maybe it was two weeks, maybe it was one month, the point still remains, it's a nag to have to sit online for an extra hour or two, or log in every single day at the exact right time to que skill training. It did use to be that way, I see no reason for why it was changed to 24h limits.

It was possible to que skills beyond the 24 hour barrier, maybe it was two weeks, maybe it was one month, the point still remains, it's a nag to have to sit online for an extra hour or two, or log in every single day at the exact right time to que skill training. It did use to be that way, I see no reason for why it was changed to 24h limits.

It was possible to que skills beyond the 24 hour barrier, maybe it was two weeks, maybe it was one month, the point still remains, it's a nag to have to sit online for an extra hour or two, or log in every single day at the exact right time to que skill training. It did use to be that way, I see no reason for why it was changed to 24h limits.

You are all wrong, it was possible to que e.g. 3 days + 3 days skills, there was no 24h limit. This changes when CCP removed the ability to "ghost train skills" , they double removed this by both stoping the training after an account expired and implementing a 24h limit. The 24h limit was and is unecessary.

You are all wrong...........

Other Question, why not completly remove every restrictions?

Infinite Skillqueue, Auto Apply after changes and so on.

You are all wrong, it was possible to que e.g. 3 days + 3 days skills, there was no 24h limit. This changes when CCP removed the ability to "ghost train skills" , they double removed this by both stoping the training after an account expired and implementing a 24h limit. The 24h limit was and is unecessary.

Because effort in = reward out.

Let me take an example:

No skill queue: Characters are built that never have to logon in and sold on the Character Bazaar for billions of ISK. No effort = lots of ISK. All the skills are queued when they are created and managed\monitored through EVEHQ or EvEMon.

The queue encourages people to logon and engage and if you don't want to then go and play something else or don't train.

The queue encourages people to logon and engage and if you don't want to then go and play something else or don't train.

Sry but that makes any sense? People are playing "Eve Offline" already and CCP does encourage them with Dual Alt Training and multiple Accounts.
The 2 Minutes to login and buy/set new skills is kinda bad example for "activ" gameplay, imho of course.

It was possible to que skills beyond the 24 hour barrier, maybe it was two weeks, maybe it was one month, the point still remains, it's a nag to have to sit online for an extra hour or two, or log in every single day at the exact right time to que skill training. It did use to be that way, I see no reason for why it was changed to 24h limits.

I suspect that English isn't your first language from most of your replies so yes, that does make sense.

Dual Account Training, IMO, should never have been implemented as it removes the planning need to manage multiple characters training plans. Have used it? Damn right I have because it's there. Now what about the years lost before DCT came in...

"EvE Offline"...come on, you can do better than that I'm sure! Just because you have DCT doesn't mean people are not logging in on their main.

Also the active part isn't even to do with buying skills, although that gives opportunities for interaction. It's all about planning and management and it's what sets EvE apart from other MMO's.

EDIT: And please don't take my first line as a personal attack as it's not meant as that nor a trolling comment, just how I read what you type in most replies.

With respect you are all loosing perspective, look at the question on how the skill que *should* be, not what you remember it to be.

The skill queue should be 24 hours, as it has always been.

Why? There are several arguments against the current scheme, none for it.

1. The queue was meant to eliminate the need for silly hours skill changes. This means you can add or change your skilling, once that 24 hour period has arrived. Any time within that 24 hour period. Before you needed to wait until the skill finished, before adding another.

2. It gives us the ability to train lots of short time skills, that would have required us to come back and forth to the PC in the days before the queue.

3. It allows for us to add long skills, as we did in the past. At any time we want, or within the end 24 hour period when it suits us.

4. It actually adds 24 hours on top of the length of any skill you could add.
I.E. My longest skill is the next I have in line for training at 52 days 51 minutes. If I add lots of small skills to my queue, I can train for 53 days. That's 24 hours longer with the queue, then before without it and with more skills trained.

That's four reasons for it and you have yet to post one against. So far, all you've done is make false claims and misunderstand the queue completely.

Your arguments are for the curret vs old (no queue), not for current vs longer

Well as his title is Bring back the one month skill queue, that is why.

But why do you need a longer queue than 24 hours? It wasn't ever meant to act as a reason not to log in. In fact CCP specifically stated they did not want that, when they introduced it.

It does exactly what it is designed to do. It offers flexibility and does not take anything away from the old system. It only adds to it.

Title and many arguments dont make sence, having the ability to queue over 24 hours should not be dismissed by that alone.
Would 24-72 hours be game breaking in any way?
Would adding next skill (outside 24 hours) into the queue be game breaking?

Still not seeing a reason why.

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Would adding next skill (outside 24 hours) into the queue be game breaking?

You nnot seeing the reason to change something, is not an argument not to change it either

But you can already do this. Just add a long skill when you have under 24 hours left...

Thats why i said outside 24 hours, meaning that you could add a new skill to the queue on friday when you leave for a weekend away and your skill finish saturday evening/sunday morning.

There are also times when you wont know that your unable to log in for 24hours, where a longer queue would be very likely to help you continue to train

the 24 hour limit has never been a problem for me.
the devs would have to confirm the reasons for the 24 hour limit, I suspect one of the reasons was to reduce the load on the systems that monitor the que as the more entries in the que the more that has to be tracked

and to those claiming the que used to be longer than 24 hours I'll link the notes for apocrypha, where it states the que was added with a 24 hour limit
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Apocrypha

I have not logged in for well over a week and I'm still training a skill. So I have no clue why you find it difficult to get past 24 hours.

There is no problem updating the queue within a 24hr period when you rhave internet access, when that 24hr periode comes up and you findyourself w/o it for a day or 2 its another story

You are all wrong, it was possible to que e.g. 3 days + 3 days skills, there was no 24h limit. This changes when CCP removed the ability to "ghost train skills" , they double removed this by both stoping the training after an account expired and implementing a 24h limit. The 24h limit was and is unecessary.

the 24 hour limit has never been a problem for me.
the devs would have to confirm the reasons for the 24 hour limit, I suspect one of the reasons was to reduce the load on the systems that monitor the que as the more entries in the que the more that has to be tracked

and to those claiming the que used to be longer than 24 hours I'll link the notes for apocrypha, where it states the que was added with a 24 hour limit
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Apocrypha

are you c nile?

even when ghost training you couldnt queue skills

There was no 24h limit because there was no training queue. You couldn't queue up two skills one after the other. That, or my memory is really deficient and I should probably consult ^^.

You guys don't remember how it was, I do, I have been playing *on* and *off * since 2004.

(also let us queue up skill books to be injected/trained if their prerequisite is in training? please?)

There is no arguing that some people that play this game have unstable connections, or unexpected absence from one. For me personally it's not that much problem as i have stable connection and loads of free time during the day :P

I'm not saying the queue is at fault for when people run out of training, I'm saying a longer skill queue would help that it happen to (if you dont see the diffrence, you're not that smart)

You guys don't remember how it was, I do, I have been playing *on* and *off * since 2004.

There was a 2 week training que week limit, you could indeed que one skill after the other. This was removed en converted to the new system when the patch that tackled ghost training (the skill que would train until completion even if you had not paid). I don't know where you guys get the idea that EVE Online had a system where you would need to log on every 15 minutes to do a new skill ...

Fixed all of that for you. You're right in that some people are not that smart.

There was a 2 week training que week limit, you could indeed que one skill after the other. This was removed en converted to the new system when the patch that tackled ghost training (the skill que would train until completion even if you had not paid). I don't know where you guys get the idea that EVE Online had a system where you would need to log on every 15 minutes to do a new skill ...

Since your down to personal attacks, we can only assume you forfit the discussion (and i dont give a damn about my english writing skill, just like the 99% of other poeple in here)

If you can understand what im trying to write, its more than good enough!

There was a 2 week training que week limit, you could indeed que one skill after the other. This was removed en converted to the new system when the patch that tackled ghost training (the skill que would train until completion even if you had not paid). I don't know where you guys get the idea that EVE Online had a system where you would need to log on every 15 minutes to do a new skill ...

I don't always log on every day, I would really appreciate if skills could be qued for e.g. a month at a time. It used to be that way, now there is a 24h barrier. I don't like the change.