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Leitari
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:10:00 -
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Well, I'll first say that the graphic seems to have improved alot, crystal clear and great. However. 1. When I buy an item from the market the entire list of items disappears after its been loaded. 2. Lag when loading new enviroment, either station or system. 3. The skill in caractersheet seems to be in no certain order, only the catagories. 4. Local chat is very laggy and doesnt show right until to late (blockade) 5. (Not a new bug) When moving your mouse pointer over a starsystem in the map it doesnt show the system name, instead you have to right click to see it.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Skaz
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Skaz on 18/09/2003 01:26:40 What went wrong for me this patch:
1) My Security rating was reset to 0.0
2) Sometimes I can open my Ship Cargo or Items list, most often I click them and nothing happens.
3) Glorified CTD's
4) Lag, lag, lag, lag,lag.....
and on a final note although I can literally see the improvements to the graphics I have to say, the change to some parts of the UI are butt-ugly to be honest....
Why did CCP change a thing that was working rather well and in light of the problems that plague this game has to be considered a low priority?!?!?!?
Was the idea maybe to give a visual change so ppl would be calm and have a sense that of the game changing before their eyes???
If so you flopped miserably, I HATE parts of the new UI eg. the Character sheet and the Mail.
You guys ought to pull your act together, preferably learning once and for all now that big patches mean big trouble.
/rant off
edit: spelling, spelling, spelling 
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Yyrkoon
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Yyrkoon on 18/09/2003 01:25:51 - I got 10 Acolytes from ONE Sanshas Ravager (2000 Bounty). - It's SOOOOOOOO laggy that I have something like Quake in 2fps to compare it with. (Edited)
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Chucky
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:29:00 -
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Quote: only ***** is the tachyons need nerfed bad they way over power all weapons in the game or make a equal weapon of every type balance balance balance plz
My sugestion is to make the other large guns worth using If it weren't for Tachyons, I'd go back to using Medium guns (which was awefull temping after looking at their improved stats)
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |

Luna
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:37:00 -
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The mail system is terrible... What was wrong with it before to warrant a change? And why waste time on the mail system ?
I have had a visual basic CTD ... never had that before...
Icons are weird some look better, but most of them are fuzzy.
Pirate hunting is not as fun anymore, those damn missles hurt but the spawns are lacking it seems... I really don't like mining and flying around in an indy to trade with nerfed AB's does not sound like fun either.
Haven't tried pvp yet.
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Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:47:00 -
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Don't know if this has been posted yet, no time to read the new replies
Mousing over a result in the survery scanner display points your camera at that particular roid. Now, however, after you take the mouse off the Scanner entry, your cam dosent jump back to the ship. Moving the camera around causes it to go berserk, like it's picking some random point in space to center on.
Mousing over something else, like a drone entry in my drone window, fixes it. But it's freaky =)
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Luna
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:47:00 -
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When using the Market for awhile the choices to the right disappear and you have to close the market and start over again....
ie: I looked at ship equipment; turrets; then hybrid; then laser; then ammo then I have no choices on the rt side... have to reload the whole mkt... <--- never had that problem before but it is consistent now.
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Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:55:00 -
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And you people need to chill out with the hate. Programming is not an exact science =P
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Damien
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:58:00 -
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Jettisoned Containers (Sharing Cans)
Tried sharing a can between 2 ships while mining and it works really well, thanks :)
1 minor bug still exists: Ship A owns the can and is mining continually. Ship B grabs ore leaving 1-unit in the can. Ship B warps away to unload ore (Note: no docking/un-docking) Ship B returns to the can and opens it. The can shows the previous ore value, i.e. 1 ore unit. *the bug* After Ship B removes the 1 ore unit the can now displays correctly.
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Sarae
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:08:00 -
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Actually, after using the new EveMail system for a bit, it's not THAT bad. It's actually more functional than the old system, it's just not very intuitive. And it doesn't help that the patch reset ALL your emails to 'unread' status, which is probably causing more headaches than the UI itself.
Good idea, just not a great implementation. Hopefully they can find something with the functionality of the new UI with the easy use of the old.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:22:00 -
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in the most civilized manner I can muster! the patch is crap! the lag is horrible!!!
The list of problems is SOOO long I can't describe!
The main issue that I am dealing with at this time is shields not regenerating and shield boosters are not working. and let me tell you that sux in combat!!!
I just don't know what to say...and frankly as mom always says...if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it anything.
-=END OF LINE=-
       (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Sigma Seven
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:23:00 -
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Folders in the Bookmarks window are all missing and even when re-created they do not stay. Seems prefs.ini is not saving these settings anymore and what ever the new file that is supposed to take over these functions it is not saving all the things that it should.
Please give us back "dontWantDisclaimer=1"
Please restore the GUI to it's old version.
New Mail=teh suq!
Missing Texel adjustment slider.
Camera does not follow ship after approaching an asteroid.
Roids still tiny.
Promised skills only introduced in very limited quantities resulting in market monopoly and price gouging.
Promised BPs missing.
Miner 2 STILL not appearing in the Market menus even though it can be bought and sold.
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Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:32:00 -
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Quote:
in the most civilized manner I can muster! the patch is crap! the lag is horrible!!!
The list of problems is SOOO long I can't describe!
The main issue that I am dealing with at this time is shields not regenerating and shield boosters are not working. and let me tell you that sux in combat!!!
I just don't know what to say...and frankly as mom always says...if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it anything.
-=END OF LINE=-
Yes they are. Reset them all to autorepeat.
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Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:35:00 -
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If I have a current ships dronebay open ( say, my Thorax ) then switch to a different ship ( say, my indy ) the drone window dosen't go away. Even after you undock, it's still open. You can't launch the drones, and you can close the window manually, but it's a little odd =P
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.18 03:37:00 -
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Does CCP know what they are doing?
Isn't a Patch suppose to make things better and not worse?
Come on CCP please get your act together. This is a great game but screw ups like this are just inexcusable.
I really enjoy this game when it's working correctly. Please fix crappy patch ASAP!
I would rather die a free man than live as a slave. |

Zabian
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Posted - 2003.09.18 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: Zabian on 18/09/2003 03:44:37 The hit on the CPU enhancers was a tad extreame. I now need 4 photonic's to use 8 miner 2's (Apoc), and I can't keep all my medium slot items online. If attempting to make it difficult for corps to mine in battleships, this did it.
Z
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cerberus 01
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Posted - 2003.09.18 04:31:00 -
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few more things; maybe some were mentioned before -- confirming they are happening to me too: 1) sometimes weapons cannot be turned off once activated, seems random occurances. eg. turn railgun on to fire a few shots, then cannot stop it, it must fire all the ammo out of it (like 50 rounds fired uselessly) before it stops (is colored red the entire time as if it is trying to stop). 2) corp hangers sometimes display empty, while the other hangers are displayed properly (eg. hangers 1-4 6-7 show ok, but 5 is empty. then after opening and closing hanger 5 a few times suddenly it shows the items in it). attempting to drag an item into the blank hanger also makes the item disappear until the hanger wakes up. 3) character sheet always closes it's skill menus after exit, it used to remember which ones you kept open last, so i could conveniently glance at the cs to see progress/skeep skill training organised etc.
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Rual Storge
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Posted - 2003.09.18 04:48:00 -
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other then the usual couple of bugs the only thing that really bothered me was lag (which was fixed through reset) and this newly presented mem leak (much worse then the normal one) That would be the cause of your CTD by the way when you got like 512MB mem with 20MB system and 492MB to EVE bad things happen :P (coarse those who have properly set managers have no worries )
As for people whining about the Mail system it's got it's ups and downs. I really don't care eigther way.
only thing that really still erks me is roids apparently suck still. I would like to be able to take the guys back out mining the good stuff, but with micro-roids they can get much more from mining stuff like Scor all day. (then newbs look around and go... "umm and we mine what now?")
Also I would like to point out usualy CCP fixes most bugs within a week of the patches (CTD is expetion as well as roids) so just let em know whats wrong and give it a few. programming ain't exactly a fast paced thing. 
Rual Storge, Battlestars, CEO |

Red Six
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Posted - 2003.09.18 05:19:00 -
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I can't open my ship's cargo hold half the time without logging. Yes I know it's lagging so I usually wait a minute or two to no avail. Please fix this hard to mine when you can't empty your cargo hold.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2003.09.18 05:28:00 -
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Had a whinge before then played some more and discovered a couple of things...
1) The new mail system isn't all that bad (there's as positive as it gets). 2) can't see the contents of my corp mate's hangars despite Director status. 3) Had the worst CTD I've experienced whilst playing the game, got a horrible C++ runtime error and then couldn't get back in game due to black screen of death
Oh and appart from the mail that i am coming around to slowly, the rest of the UI is awful.
Thos new icons/outline's/indicators near corpmates ships look cartoony, out of style and well just downright awful!
I said it before and i think it was QBall who said it again..... little patches more often please, no more of these large patch horror stories.
Waiting patiently for crisis management and quick resolution (patience is worn to a very thin thread at the moment following this debacle though).
Oh and for the record I am one of those who tested in Chaos, although not extensively, and this patch bears little resemblance to the state of Chaos last time I logged in there.
Learn the lessons and move on guys, you have a great game and just uber f***** it, please don't do it again!
Eve Blacklight Style
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Trav Kaelor
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Posted - 2003.09.18 05:30:00 -
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Photonic CPU (1.2mil isk) has been reduced to nothing more then a basic co-pro.
Please god for all that is right in the world return this to the way it was.
It still baffles me why a cargo ship has 900 cpu and a battleship has only 600.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.18 06:13:00 -
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1 Mouse-overs dont work in the map. 2 The mail box doesnt show who send you an email, unless you click someone's name. 3 Shield hardeners got a double nerf, i adviced allready what should be done... But Tomb is ignoring me. 4 Alot of server nodes going down like happend 2 patches ago 5 Members of mine had their screen "shake" "go white" and more crap that caused severe losses of ships, we have damage for 100 mil atm. Are we getting this back? 6 I keep getting messages that the visual memory is full, this message didnt appear any time before. 7 CPU load is increased ALOT, from the 60-80% i had before. The pc now is running at 100cpu all times. 8 Why put in modules like implants when there are no skills available? 9 The lag is massive sometimes 10 Local is bugged
THIS IS ALL DATA I COLLECTED FROM JUST 1 HR PLAYING! __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.18 06:26:00 -
[113]
Have I mentioned that tachyons are overpowered?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.18 06:35:00 -
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Quote: Have I mentioned that tachyons are overpowered?
Not in the last 10 minutes... no.. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.18 06:36:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Have I mentioned that tachyons are overpowered?
Not in the last 10 minutes... no..
I've been asleep for the last 7 hours.
Gimme a chance 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

nails
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Posted - 2003.09.18 06:41:00 -
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but any item list windows with a scroll bar won't refresh untill the scroll bar is moved. Example: Bills, after you pay a bill the rest won't refresh till you slide the bar. Chat windows, the channel members area won't refresh if there is a scroll bar present. Scroll bar must be moved to refresh the current listing. ------------------
http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level
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Mjolnir
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Posted - 2003.09.18 06:52:00 -
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- OMG SORTING:
Ok come on now CCP, can you at least get a simple sorting algorithm right? If you goto corp tab and members, and you sort by name it doesnt even sort right, not to mention the sorting of bookmarks and all that uggggggg. If i give you a cookie will you not make these mistakes? K? THX
- Prefs.ini:
Come on now such a major change to way user settings are stored they could at least made sure such a critical componet was working correctly b4 it was implmented like this. As far as i can tell this seems nothing more like a way to make pref.ini look clean, but all the data is now stored in a folder called settings in binary format. Is this just so programs like EveDude wont be fucntional anymore? or is it part of some other plan for the future direction the code base is going in that really requried this kind of change? How exactly does it make the game better??? I see no visual or prefomance changes because of this. If this is some kind of improment could you at least document it better. Rather then saying it'll be "better" this way.
IMHO the prefs.ini file should have stayed they was it was, at least for the time being. So the focus could be towards FIXING what is CURRENTLY WRONG like AUTO PILOT, and BALANCING ships rather then somehting this pointless. At least thats how I see it right now?
Which PA character are you? |

Zompi
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Posted - 2003.09.18 07:09:00 -
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New patch = bad news at least at the moment
1. Numerous CTDs 2. New mail system - ughh...why was it changed? 3. Mouse over doesnt work 4. Some major lag 5. Secure containers - not so secure - logged on after patch to discover my secure containers had all been swiped by someone..LOL..if I find out who that was... 6. Umpteen sentry guns everywhere - PVP is difficult enough why this overkill with the sentry guns? I'm not a big pirate fan but even I feel a little bit of sympathy about this move.
I don't mind patches if they resolve existing bugs etc but some of the changes in this patch have altered things that worked perfectly well and are now knacked.
I agree with an earlier poster - smaller, helpful patches in the future rather than large..buggy ones please!
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.09.18 07:26:00 -
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I am quite sure that MMORPG games are actually not games but a fiendishly designed plot by the CIA to test us! A bit like the SAS endurance test where just when you thinks its over you have to turn around and go all the way back up the mountain :(
I work in real life as a QA in telecoms (yes a test analyst) I know all about bugs believe me :) I dream about bugs and how im gonna find em. I wonder what the QA guys are doing over at CCP? How can they miss these bugs during the test phase? How can they sign off the release in confidence and say yep we tested it these are the defects we found but its ready for release.
These are not hardware specific bugs as they are affecting all in game! This means anyone with any type of PC should have seen them when testing it during test phase?
My conclusion is that CCP cannot have a QA team. they must be one of these organisations that mistakenly thought the developers could produce code thats bug free ROFL LOL Im wetting my pants!! Yes lets save money by NOT testing type of project managers!! Man I could shoot them :)
DR Boris Beizer who is probably the worlds leading tester and software developer to. Designs critical software for military and also NASA states in his book "black box testing" That even he inserts on average 4 to 15 defects in code per 100 lines (he is a code GOD) I wonder how many errors the devs at CCP insert in their code per 100 lines LOL.
Guys get a decent test department please?? If you need help I know some contractors that will help you out in this area. **** I would help you. Oh yes and lose the BA¦s and SA's and the bull**** PM's as all they do is run around writing shelfware documents that no-one EVER reads and not fixing anything!!!!!
Was that a rant?
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
Currently chasing Lianhaun |

Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.18 07:37:00 -
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Quote: The hit on the CPU enhancers was a tad extreame. I now need 4 photonic's to use 8 miner 2's (Apoc), and I can't keep all my medium slot items online. If attempting to make it difficult for corps to mine in battleships, this did it.
Oh, I guess it should be easy to have 8 Tech II items running simultaneously.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |
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