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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2006.04.24 12:58:00 -
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Ok two issues here that are starting to annoy me and im sure all the other chimera pilots. Purely visual there are two things just plainly wrong with the chimera.
1) Size.
oh... my... god... this thing is tiny! I mean seriously its a carrier! It has a 80k m3 drone bay, thousands of shield hit points yet its smaller then an apoc??? Its by far the smallest carrier and basically bs sized. Explain to me why it cant use gates again?
Carriers side by side
Chimera being at the top if you havent guessed :P, as you can see its tiny, almost a third of the lengh of the amarr carrier which imo is the correct size for a carrier.
Chimera and some other ships
Again tiny! Smaller by quite a bit then an apoc especially if you iqnore the pointy antenna at the front of the chimera. Heck even the iteron mk5 is almost as long.
2) Bugged center point.
Says it all
Simple pure bug this. The center point for the carrier is stuck right at the back. Perhaps a relic of the carrier being much larger? Or just a silly mistake. This causes all sorts of little problems.
Shields extending miles behind the ship, another angle.
Perhaps most annoying, flying with the camera behind the already tiny ship is a mile from the camera drone making it seem even smaller. Closest view from behind.
The ship center bug needs to be fixed, simple as that, its just a bug and really shouldnt have made it into the game like this. The size issue could be a mistake but seeing as caldari ships do tend to be the smallest im fearing it was on purpose, so im asking for ccp to look again, its just too small, its a bs not a capital ship atm.
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Tiki Rar
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Posted - 2006.04.24 13:06:00 -
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I do think it is a bit odd that a capital ship should be smaller or even the same size as a BS , even if Caldari ships tend to me smaller than other races in comparison. It just does'nt seem right for a capital ship to be that small :/
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.24 13:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Tiki Rar
I do think it is a bit odd that a capital ship should be smaller or even the same size as a BS , even if Caldari ships tend to me smaller than other races in comparison. It just does'nt seem right for a capital ship to be that small :/
needs some enlargement dosent it
Originally by: Tamora
> its not the skills that make the eve
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Tauge
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Posted - 2006.04.24 15:20:00 -
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It does look like CCP just cut the model in half, but didn't edit the other parameters to match up with the new model...it's odd at best.
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MrTriggerHappy
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Posted - 2006.04.24 18:13:00 -
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hmmm for sure needs to be worked on.
Needs some wang enhancement 
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.25 00:39:00 -
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"Says it all"
Maybe they forgot to attach the rear part, just like Scorpion went out of the dock with just one wing ^^;;
seriously though aye... i love the looks of Caldari carrier, it's one of my favourites... but she could use getting a tad bit bigger, to be more like the other carriers ;.;
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Arcadia1701
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Posted - 2006.04.25 02:23:00 -
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look like they got lazy and simple halfed the Leviathans physical stats and used them for the carrier lol.
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Virtuozzo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 11:39:00 -
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Try flying over a Chimera with your Machariel ... emberassing moment. Seriously.
Afaik it's been bugreported like silly. To no avail.
Virtuozzo
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FawKa
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Posted - 2006.04.25 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider
1) Size.
oh... my... god... this thing is tiny! I mean seriously its a carrier! It has a 80k m3 drone bay, thousands of shield hit points yet its smaller then an apoc??? Its by far the smallest carrier and basically bs sized. Explain to me why it cant use gates again?
About why it cant use gates:
It has been discussed before but noone get it, which includes myself  .
As you just said youself, its tiny, smaller than a BS. Thats like the first reason for it to have the ability to jump.
The mass of a carrier is smaller than a freigter - so smaller visual and in numbers afterall.
The carrier should be working in small gruop attacks as CCP told us ourself. But a small gruop doest really have a Recon with them and enough ppl to defend the Recon for enemies if they wanna pop-up.. So..
well, I just miss the logic of new added features, lots of great ideas they just dont fit they real game.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:31:00 -
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Hehe, loxy needs an enlargement 
And archon ftw, serves you right for picking inferior ship design 
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.26 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Hehe, loxy needs an enlargement
And archon ftw, serves you right for picking inferior ship design
My carrier would kick your carriers ass, in about 5 hours of fighting.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2006.04.27 19:45:00 -
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Common devs please  .
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Ni'ka
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Posted - 2006.04.27 21:02:00 -
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The shield boosting 'bubble' as well as the Center point do look like it is 3/5 of its original size :)
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.04.28 19:25:00 -
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/signed what loxy said
hes smart
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DontLookAtMe
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Posted - 2006.04.29 16:58:00 -
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I AGREE WITH LOXY (mind the caps lock! it was used in order to emphasize my support !)
Please make the Chimera bigger so it can serve as the e-peen enlargement that it was inteded to be :( (in my case at least)
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Ilya Murametz
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 29/04/2006 21:41:58
SIGNED... i've posted same issue in Ship and Mods forum... haven't heard a peep from devs/GM/BH this is simply silly
Funny thing is, pull up info on Machariel and Chimera and out them side by side and pay attention to MASS numbers... LOL according to numbers Chimera should be 10 times teh size of Machriel.. but yet it look like a cruisers next to it
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:57:00 -
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Allow the caldari carrier to use jump gates also, but none of the other carriers. That is acceptable also.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.04.30 01:51:00 -
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The Caldari BS and capitals all look pretty small to me tbh...
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BH Runner
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Posted - 2006.04.30 07:14:00 -
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Guess the caldari are just very efficient at cramming everything in.
This has been flagged up for attention, durign development there was an issue where docke dcarriers were too large for the station modelling process, and as a result all internal sizes were modified to make ships look smaller inside stations. The caldari model might be meant to be its size for specific reason (less drone inclined) or something may have occurred with the resizing process.
Either way, changes to model sizes would require a client patch, if this happens you'll be well aware of it.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2006.04.30 08:49:00 -
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Thats a good first step ^^.
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Sgt Blade
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Posted - 2006.04.30 13:33:00 -
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dont really care about size personally, just what it can do 
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Blood Gutter
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Posted - 2006.04.30 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sgt Blade
dont really care about size personally, just what it can do
It seems some people really need to compensate for something 
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Ilya Murametz
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Posted - 2006.04.30 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Gutter
Originally by: Sgt Blade
dont really care about size personally, just what it can do
It seems some people really need to compensate for something
It seems some people really need to compensate for brain by making useless idiotic replies?
It's Game Development Forums... to focus on bugs in teh game brightstar.. go troll somewhere else... moron
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2006.05.01 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Turkantho on 01/05/2006 17:09:04
The thing is these ships are supposed to be CAPITAL ships, which implies on them being big.
And then you have a standard Battleship which is bigger than a capital ship ? this is just plain wrong.
Another example: The Nyx roughly 3-4 longer than a Raven but yet it can store 2 of those assembled, and even being so small atm it can't dock in a station, sorry those ships are to small, a Mothership should be at least 1/4 the size of a station and a Titan 1/2 (if not more) of it.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.05.02 10:48:00 -
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I agree with and support Loxy. Carriers should be BIG. I mean... duh!! 
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2006.05.03 08:24:00 -
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Off the second page! Enlarge my epeen!
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2006.05.03 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: BH Runner
Guess the caldari are just very efficient at cramming everything in.
This has been flagged up for attention, durign development there was an issue where docke dcarriers were too large for the station modelling process, and as a result all internal sizes were modified to make ships look smaller inside stations. The caldari model might be meant to be its size for specific reason (less drone inclined) or something may have occurred with the resizing process.
Either way, changes to model sizes would require a client patch, if this happens you'll be well aware of it.
Oh come one ... do the math :P Match the number and sizes of ships you can fit in the ship maintenance bay and it is rather apparent that if you put any ships in a Chimera there is just NO room even for the engines :P
Oh btw, seen the Wyvern yet? Model resizing ftw ^^
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2006.05.03 11:36:00 -
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Hm another point of attention .. as the caldari tier 3 BS is a direct derivative from the caldari tier 1 carrier model ... will we be able to put that one in our pockets too? Though in fleet combat it should be fun as everybody would mistake them for cruisers :-)
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Parallax Error
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Posted - 2006.05.04 14:26:00 -
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This thread is crying out for some spam e-mail carrier extension jokes.
Is the size of your carrier letting you down in bed? Try our patented carrier extension exercises! All natural herbs, no drugs!
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.05.04 17:16:00 -
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"This thread is crying out for some spam e-mail carrier extension jokes."
As well as for pointing out the Amarr for some strange reason make all their ships considerably bigger than any other race... ;s
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2006.05.06 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Turkantho on 06/05/2006 12:31:12
Just saw this vid: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=328904
and at one piont (minute 15 or so) you see a Nxy and a Nidhoggur very close to each other and the Nxy is just a tiny bit bigger than the carrier, now please explain to us why a carrier can dock and a mothership can't. And don't talk about the non existant Clone Vat feature
Dreads are bigger than MS and can dock this is simply wrong.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2006.05.08 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ange1 on 08/05/2006 03:00:34
If you look at these two pics:
Nyx 1
Nyx 2
You can see some relative size differences of our Nyx and our Battleships. While the Nyx is certainly decently sized, we would've hoped at least twice the size it currently is to justify its assigned role and storylines that it can't jump or dock because its so big, yet there are dreads which are as big as the Nyx itself.
And please seed the clone vat bay skill!!
The Establishment is at your service...
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Hawk Fireblade
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Posted - 2006.05.08 04:45:00 -
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I know the models where bugged and there was talk bit ago bout fixing the carrier model Soon (tm) :)
But ya the carrier models are borked, and well the graphics Dept didn't exactly push the boat out when they 'designed' the Chimera it looks like a rehashed stretched ferox gone wrong, plain butt ugly.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.05.08 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"This thread is crying out for some spam e-mail carrier extension jokes."
As well as for pointing out the Amarr for some strange reason make all their ships considerably bigger than any other race... ;s
maybe it opened one of the emails?
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.05.08 22:10:00 -
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I agree with the Chimera, and carriers in general, being too small.
However what I find an even bigger joke is that the motherships, which are like 15-20 times more expensive than their baby versions are hardly larger of size. They cost half a titan to build and yet are small enough to fit 100 times in a titan, graphically.
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Chin Darksaber
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Posted - 2006.05.09 04:33:00 -
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hell yes i agree ...its way to small the way it is now...and yes i have one ...compared to my dread ...well u get the picture.....
Devs please help us out here
LD
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Nalya Nephilim
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Posted - 2006.05.09 12:16:00 -
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Erebus (Gallente Titan) : mass 1,762,500,000Kg volume 145,500,000m¦
Nyx(Gallente Mothership): mass 1,292,500,000kg voume 582,000,000m¦
From these stats the mothership is 73% as heavy as the titan, and about 4 times more voluminous...now let's look at the pics....
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Prydeless
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Posted - 2006.05.15 18:26:00 -
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I have a chimera and I cried when i saw the size of other ships compared to it. It needs to be alot bigger...
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Wen Jaibao
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Posted - 2006.05.29 03:48:00 -
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Bump
Was testing these with my friend and my megathron was nearly the same size.. this needs some serious attention. These are supposed to hold battleships in their holds, so how do you explain the battleships being nearly the same size? They ALL definately need a resize.
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Baherroth
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Posted - 2006.05.29 09:28:00 -
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OMFG
Chimera is the best carrier atm BECAUSE its small
the smaller the ship - the less damage it takes - the chimera is very small yes , but if say, a bs shot a Archon with 1 gun, and shot a Chimera with 1 gun - not counting resistances
Archon would take more damage due to large size
Chimera would take less damage because it is small
there ya go
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2006.05.29 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Baherroth
OMFG
Chimera is the best carrier atm BECAUSE its small
the smaller the ship - the less damage it takes - the chimera is very small yes , but if say, a bs shot a Archon with 1 gun, and shot a Chimera with 1 gun - not counting resistances
Archon would take more damage due to large size
Chimera would take less damage because it is small
there ya go
 Wow. I laughed at that post then i looked through your previous posts and laughed some more. Honestly if you have no idea about a subject dont comment. Stat wise the Chimera is actually a BIGGER target then the Archon. This is purely a visual bug.
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Mon Ansurat
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Posted - 2006.05.30 00:59:00 -
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I agree
there capital ships they should be about 1/2 to 3/4 the size of a drednaught
and it's bull when a caldari dred can dock but a nyx (visuly dwarfed by a phenox) cannot
that "grinds my gears"
FIX IT! or i will have to glue a magnifying screen to my monitor
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Baherroth
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Posted - 2006.05.30 10:24:00 -
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Roger - forgot to check the signature radius
yeah, make the caldari carrier bigger - atleast the same size as the others or bigger
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Aenean sed
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:46:00 -
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Not to mention the Archon not only moves faster than the chimera, while being much larger but has a smaller sig radius. 
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FawKa
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Posted - 2006.06.02 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: BH Runner
Guess the caldari are just very efficient at cramming everything in.
This has been flagged up for attention, durign development there was an issue where docke dcarriers were too large for the station modelling process, and as a result all internal sizes were modified to make ships look smaller inside stations. The caldari model might be meant to be its size for specific reason (less drone inclined) or something may have occurred with the resizing process.
Either way, changes to model sizes would require a client patch, if this happens you'll be well aware of it.
That makes no sense at all !
The mass has to have something to do with size you know. If a Mac is bigger in size but the carrier has 10 times the mass somethings doesnt fit at all - thats just logicly.
The ships cant be in the stations then huh? well this can be handlest quite easy:
When a capital ship dockes the stations will know and the camera will zoom out to the two pics:
Picture 1
Picture 2
this will solve the problem that you cant see anything if you dock with your capital ship - IF THEY HAD THE RIGHT SIZES
CCP shouldnt make capital ships if they make some of em battlecruiser size! Thats about it -
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Margulus
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Posted - 2006.06.08 04:04:00 -
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Gotta be honest here, the buggered centerpoint and camera dron interferance are my biggest issues atm. Yeah the model is way too small, but the aforementioned issues actually intefere with useability, and thats just unacceptable IMHO.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.06.08 08:43:00 -
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This needs to be fixed. We undocked some carriers last night and Loxy was crying on TS again because my awesomely sexy Gal carrier made his look like a chew toy.
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R3dSh1ft
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Posted - 2006.06.08 11:12:00 -
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Havent had a chance to fly my chimera yet
but by the time i do, i will have invested maybe 4-5 months training to get it to a nice level as well as 3-4b isk in skills/mods/fuel etc.
so for your sake ccp, i better not be disappointed :)
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TomParad0x
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Posted - 2006.06.08 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: TomParad0x on 08/06/2006 23:31:32
Now that i have my domain fixed, i am going to post some screenshots of the caldari carrier compared to the amarr one, along with their stats.
Picture 1
Picture 2
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Gilligan Zaftig
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Posted - 2006.07.22 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Gilligan Zaftig on 22/07/2006 21:05:41
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Gilligan Zaftig
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Posted - 2006.07.22 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Baherroth
OMFG
Chimera is the best carrier atm BECAUSE its small
the smaller the ship - the less damage it takes - the chimera is very small yes , but if say, a bs shot a Archon with 1 gun, and shot a Chimera with 1 gun - not counting resistances
Archon would take more damage due to large size
Chimera would take less damage because it is small
there ya go
Wow. I laughed at that post then i looked through your previous posts and laughed some more. Honestly if you have no idea about a subject dont comment. Stat wise the Chimera is actually a BIGGER target then the Archon. This is purely a visual bug.
Yea i agree with loxy. It's not how the size of the ship looks that makes it harder to hit it's the the varibables in the coding. If you notice that the centerpoint is at the engines almost, then that means the varible size is definatly bigger then wat it looks like.
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Gilligan Zaftig
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Posted - 2006.07.22 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Baherroth
OMFG
Chimera is the best carrier atm BECAUSE its small
the smaller the ship - the less damage it takes - the chimera is very small yes , but if say, a bs shot a Archon with 1 gun, and shot a Chimera with 1 gun - not counting resistances
Archon would take more damage due to large size
Chimera would take less damage because it is small
there ya go
Wow. I laughed at that post then i looked through your previous posts and laughed some more. Honestly if you have no idea about a subject dont comment. Stat wise the Chimera is actually a BIGGER target then the Archon. This is purely a visual bug.
Yea i agree with loxy. It's not how the size of the ship looks that makes it harder to hit it's the the varibables in the coding. If you notice that the centerpoint is at the engines almost, then that means the varible size is definatly bigger then wat it looks like.
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Gilligan Zaftig
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Posted - 2006.07.22 21:07:00 -
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sorry got bit laggy when i posted. Playing with 2 monitors, eve on one side the forum on other.
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James Cathin
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Posted - 2006.07.24 06:22:00 -
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Thank god someone protested against carrier sizes!! Its disapointing, they should be alot bigger!!!
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Rellim Mada
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:38:00 -
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/signed what loxy said.
It looks from every graphic about the chimera that it actually should be alot bigger, but CCP hasnt bothered fixing this bug.
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Ilya Murametz
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:02:00 -
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A recap of a story last night, hang in with me here, it's a good one, but made me 
One of our newer players(will call him John Doe) has just lost his Moa in combat. Shortly after a message goes out to John that a corporation Chimera Class Carrier is few systems away and has a Moa docked onboard. Excited new player who never seen a carrier before in his life sets the course for the Chimera location.
Upon arrival in his shuttle, John gets wide eyed and mutters: "wow.. I gotta get me one of these". Instructions to John were given how to undock and board the new Moa from the carrier and he done so.
Then came silence...... and puzzled John goes, "Dear Sir the carrier pilot....uhmm why is this Moa WIDER, HIGHER and just plain FATTER than your carrier and how did you fit it into your bay....."
After the carrier pilot failed to explain how he can fit up to 10 cruisers in his bay considering each one has a wider hull then his carrier, he then crawled into fetal position in the corner and resumed sucking on his thumb.
The End
Now CCP, Devs, GM's whoever payes attention to this (if anybody does at all)
So all this talk of yours how you're doing your best to create one of a kind atmosphere for player base so they can immerse themselves... uhmm how you do that if nothing falls into place, bigger ships are really not big, T2 "lottery" is not really a lottery and you bounce on 100 ships in Jita coming out of the same dock, force recon ship is really not so much of a force reacon.... I can go on but I will stop before another kitten dies.
Now I say again for a thousand times in my 3 years of being here: Maybe releasing more and more and more of new "broken" stuff is not really better for us then fixing the old content first...hmmm now thats a grand idea, eh?
P.S. and the only answer we heard so far: "well we had problems with them rendering in station so we made them smaller..." lol. are you for real
Overall game is great, hence why i'm still here after 3 years but a lot of stuff is missing and at this point Pirates of the Burning Sea and Infinity Quest for Earth starting to look really good....
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sgt Blade
dont really care about size personally, just what it can do
Get ready.. this is gonna be hard to believe... I know, a ShoCkeR..
But some of us players of EvE don't log on everyday to see how fast we can press F1, F2, F3...etc and see how many we can kill tonigh to make us feel more manly because we had a bad day or horrible childhood (not implying that you're that kind)
Instead we like to get a way from day to day task of real life and immerse ourselves inside something more a fantasy like and when your fantasy time all of the suddenly interupted by silly flaws like Loxy and other players mentioned it defeats the purpose of trying to do what ever that is us geeks do... picking up what i'm laying down
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Rellim Mada
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ilya Murametz
After the carrier pilot failed to explain how he can fit up to 10 cruisers in his bay considering each one has a wider hull then his carrier, he then crawled into fetal position in the corner and resumed sucking on his thumb.
Hahaha  . Excellent post mate.
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Wen Jaibao
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Posted - 2006.07.25 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ilya Murametz
immerse ourselves inside something more a fantasy like
Thats really the key word here. Immerse. Carrier sizes are simply immersion breaking at the moment.
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Selfe
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 11:33:00 -
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/signed.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rellim Mada
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
After the carrier pilot failed to explain how he can fit up to 10 cruisers in his bay considering each one has a wider hull then his carrier, he then crawled into fetal position in the corner and resumed sucking on his thumb.
Hahaha . Excellent post mate.
Well thank ya dear sir 
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
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Posted - 2006.07.26 08:10:00 -
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How much longer do we have to wait? I've bug reported this... can't we just release an emergency patch to fix the carrier size? No? Dang.
Seriously though. I've got a Revelation Dreadnaught on another character. Since it's pretty much on POS killing duty and rarely sits around outside a station much, every now and then I undock it for the newer players to get a look, and tremble in awe of my incredible might and power. Yeah. It gives me way too much pleasure.
But then theres the Chimera. My Chimera comes out of production tomorrow (for this char), and I've already done pretty extensive testing and practice with it on the test server (the old test server, not the new one I can never log into... HINT HINT). So I know exactly what is going to happen. I'm going to jump it down to home base and probably a few of our players who haven't seen one of these yet (they're fairly uncommon to see, everyone seems to have an Archon or a Thanatos) will swing by to check it out.
Here's the problem. The ship looks huge if you're sitting next to it in a shuttle. Or a Pod. Zoom out a bit and the little ship is just a speck and it LOOKS for all intents and purposes like a big ship. It's engines rumble like an earthquake when it moves, and it takes a good fraction of a minute to turn 180 degrees. Very impressive. Then someone's going to fly up next to it in an Apoc. The Chimera is smaller than an Apoc. All my hard work, training, ISK and glory for this capital ship that can carry a small fleet... and I'm dwarfed by a common battleship.
You know what's amusing? On SiSi a while back I ejected a Prophecy out of one. My brother (who was to fly the Prophecy) just about died laughing.
Ah well. I'd better brace myself for the mockery I'll be tomorrow when I get my Chimera. "LMAO! You trained how long for that tiny thing?!" :Sigh:
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Sovarin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.26 20:57:00 -
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Suprised to see no Devs have posted on this topic yet.
We need answers!
Or myabe the chimeras are like Doctors Whos tardis, its bigger on the inside!
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Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.28 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sovarin
Suprised to see no Devs have posted on this topic yet.
We need answers!
Or myabe the chimeras are like Doctors Whos tardis, its bigger on the inside!
Exactly Sovarin...
bump till we get an answer
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eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.28 11:31:00 -
[65]
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
How much longer do we have to wait? I've bug reported this
Do you honestly still believe bugreporting serves any more purpose in this game? Come on, there isn't even a defect list so we can check if an issue has been made aware of, if it's been passed to which department, etc.
In all likelyness the Chimera bug/glitch/mess story has already been lost among a myriad of bug reports which several hundred monkeys are going over to catalogue for a few months until it becomes apparent they are all dealing with the same topics but are just mildly different in their approach. By that time it's become clear that Kali part 6 has to take precendence. The year now is 2011.
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Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.29 05:28:00 -
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ya i know how the size is lame... but i wish other issues to be addressed first or at same time... the carrier threads show them all very well.
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Sovarin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 17:55:00 -
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*Bump, untill a dev can post on this!
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Grismar
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:56:00 -
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If at all, I doubt the devs will be fixing this before the new DirectX 10 gfx engine hits EVE. Apparently, the way models are rendered in stations had them decide to size down the carriers.
Shifting the centerpoint of the Chimera might allow them to scale it up a little and still have it fit in the station view, but then it would be relatively large, considering the whole "Caldari ships are smaller" thing.
But let's face it people: it's not really that big an issue (no pun intended). Yes, it looks silly. Yes, it should be fixed the next time major graphics changes are put in. But the whining about stations being smaller on the outside than ships and hangars suggested died down eventually as well and I doubt EVE lost a lot of players over it.
Do you really want to be that guy in another MMO explaining how he left the best MMO out there just because the devs wouldn't scale a few models in the game look more 'realistic'?
Greetings,
Grismar.
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DeODokktor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 10:11:00 -
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Well Said Grismart.
I'd rather have something that functions correctly rather than something that just looks the part.
I would love to have both and I dont expect it to be a big issue for them to change, but as you say it's not really a big deal and people should get over it.
plus.. cal carriers kinda stink :P
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Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 16:47:00 -
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To Grismar: If you read all the replies carefully you will see that Ship sizes is just the begining of it. Nobody says this is thenumber ONE thing that should be fixed NOW asap.... all we're saying that it's wrong, nobody mentioned anything about it... and so on. Yes everything should be fixed before putting out new stuff like i said before, not just "chimera size"
To the "not so smar...uhmm helpful" poster above this
If you don't have anything constructive to say next time..how about not saying anything at all.....m'kay? thanks bye.
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Posted - 2006.08.01 00:26:00 -
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i think BEFORE adding anything new they shoud go over all the problems with the ships and stuff and get it fine tuned and then get new stuff for us to complain about!
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hired goon
Fate.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.01 22:15:00 -
[72]
Don't worry guys. I am now adding my massive political weight to LoxyRider's argument.
Fix carrier visuals!
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sliver 0xD
Infinite Style Incorporated
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.01 23:29:00 -
[73]
theres a perfectly good explenation for this.
caldari ships dont pack the loads of armor plates like the other races. so there ship is smaller :)
and becosue caldari is a shield tank race there shields are biger :)
but anyway the center thing looks verry obvious :)
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where god divided by zero.
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Posted - 2006.08.02 01:09:00 -
[74]
That dosent explain why the Charon, which is larger, can use jumpgates, while the carrier, which is significantly smaller, cant use jumpgates. When it comes down to it, all carrier sizes are messed up though, they should be the same size as a dread.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.03 18:45:00 -
[75]
Originally by: sliver 0xD
theres a perfectly good explenation for this.
caldari ships dont pack the loads of armor plates like the other races. so there ship is smaller :)
and becosue caldari is a shield tank race there shields are biger :)
but anyway the center thing looks verry obvious :)
Ok so i think i got it, whenever another pilot wants to store his ship in the said carrier... he pulls up and request to speak with the magic ghey ferry sitting at the end of the dock... once the ferry agrees to magically make his Moa/Caracal/Blackbird/Osprey/Maller/Omen/Prophecy...smaller. Than and only than is the ship able to dock in the carrier
Your little nice argument about armor plates don't explain why OTHER NON ARMOR PACKING caldari ships (cruisers) are wider/thicker/fatter then carrier......
Next please
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Posted - 2006.08.04 00:47:00 -
[76]
Chimere defenetly needs resizing....or be allowed to jump |
Sovarin
Caldari
Species 5618
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:10:00 -
[77]
*Bump*
Dev post needed!
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GLok
Caldari
Unauthorised.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 19:00:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
That dosent explain why the Charon, which is larger, can use jumpgates, while the carrier, which is significantly smaller, cant use jumpgates. When it comes down to it, all carrier sizes are messed up though, they should be the same size as a dread.
Dont you mean they should be bigger than a dread
Doesnt bother me anyway i dont fly a carrier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:31:00 -
[79]
Originally by: GLok
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
That dosent explain why the Charon, which is larger, can use jumpgates, while the carrier, which is significantly smaller, cant use jumpgates. When it comes down to it, all carrier sizes are messed up though, they should be the same size as a dread.
Dont you mean they should be bigger than a dread
Doesnt bother me anyway i dont fly a carrier
No, I mean the same size . If anything should be bigger than a dread its the Motherships.
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Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.07 22:16:00 -
[80]
oh oh, we fell off the first page.... tsk tsk.
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undrground
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.08.08 15:04:00 -
[81]
well, besides a free bump,
i'm going to add my two cents, Yes the carreirs do need a epeen upgrade as they're size arnt that big that to a battleship,
Archon is about the right size, yet the much noticed "Larger massed" smaller model sized caldari is that of a bs, but, if you think about it.. A carrier can fit two Mammoths in its Ship cargo hold, correct?
Thus it should be 2 1/3 bigger than two mammoths in Langth?
I almost cryed when a friends march undocked on my carrier and swallowed it, ..And add a combat bounes to carriers please?
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niroshido
Caldari
Frontline Defense Force
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.08 16:34:00 -
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some funny stuff i have to admit, tbh, when the new graphics is being updated, not only should all ships look shinier but all ships should be resized, otherwise a shiny ship new ship will look like a shiny toy pocket ship
the chimera is an embarrasment to the name carrier, and most of the comments posted make obvious sense, in terms of ships the following should be done
titans should be 50% bigger than motherships
motherships 45% bigger than carriers
carriers 10 % bigger than dreads
dreads 50% bigger than frieghters
frieghters 10 % bigger than bships
bships = to industrials
industrial 25% bigger than cruisers
cruiser 25% bigger than frigates
something like that
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Emiug
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:20:00 -
[83]
the centerpoint atleast needs to be fixed :)
then worry about the sizes.
but you never know what will come in the next patches
hopefully this will be fixed.
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ShadowTec Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.12 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Manfred Doomhammer on 12/08/2006 18:48:34
its really a shame flying around this pocket carrier (allthough i really love the design... its just... too small)
No matter what excuses someone comes up with, that is an imersion breaker...
We should get jumpgate capability at least until the chimera gets resized to a propper size
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oh.. and as long as it is this small it should get its mass reduced so it can use stuff like 100mn ab/mwd and the like
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Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.08.13 02:38:00 -
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It's quite clear amarr need to compensate for something
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Posted - 2006.08.13 11:42:00 -
[86]
Originally by: niroshido
titans should be 50% bigger than motherships
motherships 45% bigger than carriers
carriers 10 % bigger than dreads
dreads 50% bigger than frieghters
frieghters 10 % bigger than bships
bships = to industrials
industrial 25% bigger than cruisers
cruiser 25% bigger than frigates
nah ... that would make freighters 10% bigger than industrials, while having roughly 100 times the capacity.
IMHO, the sizes are fine for all ships except carriers, motherships and titans. They should be much larger. Motherships should be 3-4 times the size of carriers, titans 5 times or more (station size - why not?). They're supposed to be visually stunning, not just a little bit bigger than BS.
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Minmatar
Total Warehouse Logistics
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.15 04:09:00 -
[87]
i have to agree with that carriers motherships and titans should be truly gigantic personally i think when a frig deos a flyby of a carrier it should be only a spec next to it . persannly i think those three classes should be scaled up in size 50% each at least . when i first got my carrier a corpmate undocked next to me in a bestower that was a let down tbh .
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.08.15 04:31:00 -
[88]
Love the ship but completly agree, it's far too small, it feels big but really isn't. It needs an upgrade in size and its focal point needs ot be changed from the engines to the center of the ship!
Too bad this wont get any attention for probably a good year or so since it's a 'small bug'.
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.22 07:13:00 -
[89]
there should be no problem with making carriers a little bigger, because dreads are bigger then them... so make them a just a little smaller or so... that would be nice... dont get it if dreads can be that size why carriers cant be a little smaller then them
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.30 21:02:00 -
[90]
No news yet... devs..gm... whoever?
Originally by: some nub ..aka recovering WoW person
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Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 03:02:00 -
[91]
Immersion breaking?
I am one of the old guard, and remember when a BS pilot was special. In naval parlance, a battleship is a capital ship. It is supposed to be a serious investment for a sovereign nation. 20th century BS took years to build.
OK, so much for the buildup. Try undocking from the Fed Navy station sometime at a busy time (maybe 8pm GMT?) and watch the battleship traffic jam.
IMHO, there needs to be a comprehensive renaming of EVE ships, with dreadnaughts being called battleships, and some sort of renaming from there on down.
My suggestion?
Frigate ----> corvette
Destroyer ---->frigate
Cruiser ----> destroyer
BC ----> cruiser
BS ----> BC
Dread ----> BS
All the other T1 ships are fine as they are. Obviously, the t2 variants would have to be appropriately renamed.
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Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:36:00 -
[92]
some sort of news regarding this would be nice. Granted its a small bug but i cant imagine it would take any sort of time to fix.
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Wen Jaibao
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.05 09:15:00 -
[93]
It would take a while to fix if they have to retexture it.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.06 15:08:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
It would take a while to fix if they have to retexture it.
Sure didn't take them a while to shrink it.....
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Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:03:00 -
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Ok, here's my guess: The Chimera is a relative of a cartoon character. It stores all the stuff it needs inside the pockets...
*pulls an anvil and a closet out of his pockets*
...and everything that doesn't fit in there behind its back...
*gets a plane and a supertanker from behind his back*
Looks like the devs are so totally used to all those daily enlargement e-mails in their spam filters that they don't even notice this thread ;)
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Emiug
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:03:00 -
[96]
just noticed in the database that the chimera has a sig bigger than the pheonix!
yet its 1/3? the size?
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Gullegumman
Caldari
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2006.09.08 02:26:00 -
[97]
/Signed
The Chimera is a beautiful design, and whoever designed it should consider it a true feather in his/her hat. As an IRL pilot, I wouldn't necessarily have sunk the landingstrip in between two towering structures, but I'll just assume fighter pilots are totally nber... :D
Not only is it hilarious to see a Mammoth just vanish into a Chimera, without the Chimera breaking apart into tiny bits and capital parts, but it's completely off the chart to believe that 16 Dragonflies could fit inside it, much less land on that tiny strip.
I will have faith that, like the Bustard, this model will be fixed. I fail to see what technical issues could be in the way of making carriers the size of dreadnoughts.
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Edited by: Takaharu Tsuyoshi on 08/09/2006 03:13:39
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Come on now, this topic was made in April and not a single Dev aknowledgment yet?
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Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:57:00 -
[99]
I'll have to agree. Sometime the devs will have to notice when this topic grows out of proportion. Which sadly still cannot be said about the Chimera :(
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Emiug
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:53:00 -
[100]
they will have read it :P
my guess is in the first kali patch they are going to just post and say 'oh hey guys, guess what!!!'
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Wen Jaibao
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.08 16:47:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 08/09/2006 16:50:52
I'm pretty sure that the Devs know about this.. I commented to one of the Devs on sisi (FFA) that his carrier was rather small, and he replied "I know"
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Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.09 17:33:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 08/09/2006 16:50:52
I'm pretty sure that the Devs know about this.. I commented to one of the Devs on sisi (FFA) that his carrier was rather small, and he replied "I know"
Dev replying "I know" don't mean much now adays....
and I thought soonÖ was lame enough
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Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.10 15:44:00 -
[103]
i have to admit i laughed at electrofreak when he undocked his carrier, it was just so damn funny when my raven was almost as long as his chimera and twice as wide...
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Posted - 2006.09.14 21:40:00 -
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i am soon to become a capital pilot
and i am caldari,i am going for cimeara,BUT IT is smaller than a apoc,i woude be embassired to undock
and to be honist carrears represent air craft carrears(big boats) right?
shoudent it have 1 turret slot and 1 missal slot but you can have 1 or the orther??
jsut a thort and it needs to be bigger
say the apoc is this long
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the chi shoud be
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or somthing
can somone explain why it is smaller than an apoc?
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F2C MaDMaXX
London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.14 22:29:00 -
[105]
Yeah, i'll be getting a Chimera at christmas, but, this odd size and the center of the model sat at the back suggests a model shrink on that axis.
Well out of place anyway :( i hope that they've had chance to vist this in kali 1 :)
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London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.15 20:16:00 -
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coughbumpcough
Seriously though, are there any from the art dept that might get to, or have seen this thread?
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eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.16 15:39:00 -
[107]
Model rescaling and recentering doesn't require artists, you know :P
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Posted - 2006.09.16 16:33:00 -
[108]
Well i totally agree with you on this issue LoxyRider, however if CCP wants to mentain that the caldai carrier should be smaller then a Apoc they should give it a signature radius to match it
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F2C MaDMaXX
London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.18 10:37:00 -
[109]
I hadn't thought about the sig radius, this really needs addressing :(
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:09:00 -
[110]
FIX before FEATURE !!
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Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:56:00 -
[111]
the chorus for fix it has gone up guess what its going to stay as is unfornatley
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Wen Jaibao
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.21 02:42:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 21/09/2006 02:42:33
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
It would take a while to fix if they have to retexture it.
Sure didn't take them a while to shrink it.....
If the texture was made for a model that size, blowing it up would make the texture grow as well and look pixellated.
Edit: then we'd have people complaining that the Chimaera looks like something from a nintendo game.
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F2C MaDMaXX
London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:14:00 -
[113]
I understand the model has been shrunk/broken since the texture was originally added/designed
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Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.21 21:15:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 21/09/2006 02:42:33
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
It would take a while to fix if they have to retexture it.
Sure didn't take them a while to shrink it.....
If the texture was made for a model that size, blowing it up would make the texture grow as well and look pixellated.
Edit: then we'd have people complaining that the Chimaera looks like something from a nintendo game.
..........and your point is what dear sir
Fact: Models are still broken, can care less if it takes them a while or short time to redo it (we dont' even know if devs are even considering it), it needs to be done... Stating that it will look like nintendo (which it wont due to various reasons) is just ... well ...poinltess to be brutally honest
AND if all they do is stretch the texture model and do make it look like nintendo... well guess what??? then they did something WRONG again instead of fixing it, AND you dang right we'll ***** about it some more...and more
A smart man told me once before...and i think he was right, he said: "if you have nothing good or constructive to say... why say anything at all"
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adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.22 01:04:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 21/09/2006 02:42:33
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
It would take a while to fix if they have to retexture it.
Sure didn't take them a while to shrink it.....
If the texture was made for a model that size, blowing it up would make the texture grow as well and look pixellated.
Edit: then we'd have people complaining that the Chimaera looks like something from a nintendo game.
..........and your point is what dear sir
Fact: Models are still broken, can care less if it takes them a while or short time to redo it (we dont' even know if devs are even considering it), it needs to be done... Stating that it will look like nintendo (which it wont due to various reasons) is just ... well ...poinltess to be brutally honest
AND if all they do is stretch the texture model and do make it look like nintendo... well guess what??? then they did something WRONG again instead of fixing it, AND you dang right we'll ***** about it some more...and more
A smart man told me once before...and i think he was right, he said: "if you have nothing good or constructive to say... why say anything at all"
What I'm saying is that its not a simple thing to fix and satisfy everyone. If any fix comes it would probbably be when they redo the textures in Kali.
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hybridundertaker
Amarr
The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2006.09.22 11:15:00 -
[116]
fit a cloaking device and hide ure disgrace....
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 22/09/2006 20:09:05
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 21/09/2006 02:42:33
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
It would take a while to fix if they have to retexture it.
Sure didn't take them a while to shrink it.....
If the texture was made for a model that size, blowing it up would make the texture grow as well and look pixellated.
Edit: then we'd have people complaining that the Chimaera looks like something from a nintendo game.
..........and your point is what dear sir
Fact: Models are still broken, can care less if it takes them a while or short time to redo it (we dont' even know if devs are even considering it), it needs to be done... Stating that it will look like nintendo (which it wont due to various reasons) is just ... well ...poinltess to be brutally honest
AND if all they do is stretch the texture model and do make it look like nintendo... well guess what??? then they did something WRONG again instead of fixing it, AND you dang right we'll ***** about it some more...and more
A smart man told me once before...and i think he was right, he said: "if you have nothing good or constructive to say... why say anything at all"
What I'm saying is that its not a simple thing to fix and satisfy everyone. If any fix comes it would probbably be when they redo the textures and models in Kali.
We can only hope
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Caldari
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.22 22:11:00 -
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u know what actually the point is - if u spend 1 YEAR of training and paying monthlyfee u expect SOMETHIN!. and the this little girl comes out of the station and u realize - its a jocke. No really peeps - dont flame about this. dont we all have an inferiority complex? we want big ships with big guns. at least after playing soo long. totaly agree on the op.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.22 23:40:00 -
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Seeing as I'm a Gallente Fiend, I don't really have any real anger aboput this either way. But it is irritating that the Devs won't comment on it. A simple "Yes it's broke, we're working on it" or "Nope, thats how it's meant to be" would make us all happy chappies. Leaving it unanswered is just irritating.
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New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.23 00:23:00 -
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/signed.
Devs, say something please..anything.
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.09.23 01:15:00 -
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It's only been how long...
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Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 23/09/2006 15:22:57
Originally by: Fuujin
It's only been how long...
Now I think they're doing it just to tick us off even more, I mean what are the chances that a Dev or somebody on top did not see a 2 month old, 5 pages, 121 replies, and over 12,000 views post?
..or wait, maybe they're just overloaded with those paper cards shows/promotions, or "working on kali"
cause you know ...them things (specially are SOOO important to bring in crowd to a server that cant support what we have now, and had tons of exsisting stuff that needs fixin.
m'kay, i'm done *****in for today
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digitalwanderer
Gallente
The Nest
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Posted - 2006.09.23 21:15:00 -
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You guys do realise that with Kali 1,it's not just a question of adding the new Tier 3 BS's and tier 2 BC's,but also pretty much redo all the ships that were released so far,and that includes carriers as well...Right?
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.09.24 01:58:00 -
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I dont think the model upgrade is due untilt he graphics update, which isnt kali 1....
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Gallente
Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.09.24 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Angus McLean on 24/09/2006 02:53:27
You know youll probably never get a GM or Dev post right? I dont mean to add crap posts that are unhelpful to this thread but look at the Amarr thread. Theres 78 pages of writing and not one Dev post. Granted only about 40 pages actually have good material in them...
But yes, I remember when I first saw the Caldari Carrier. ..It went something like this.
"Holy crap what! What kind of sweet new battleship is that!"
Quote:
Basically we've established, EVE physics < Amarr
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Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.24 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 24/09/2006 10:57:14
To those saying "devs say anything", they aren't because they already have. It was many months ago when they stated that the Chimera model size was bugged when they were adjusting the carrier model size to fit comfortably inside stations. This is also why the center point is at one end. They acknowledged it is a known issue and is on the to-do list to be fixed.
I'm a Chimera pilot and while it bugs me, I know that I've submitted a bug report about this with screenshots a long time ago, and I've been told it's known and unintended, so I'm content to stay quiet about it for now. Obviously if Kali 1 passes by and it's not fixed yet, I'll likely pipe up.
It really is humiliating to be in a capital ship of that size, and the center point bug just ruins the beauty of the ship. I can barely see a cool bridge at the back, as well as a semi-hidden-rear-facing runway, but all that beautiful artwork is lost when the camera sits kilometers behind the ship. It's also embarassing to watch it give birth to an ejected cruiser that is wider around than the ship itself.
If you want to really get a laugh, try ejecting a Mammoth. It's about the same dimensions as a Chimera. Not to mention, my tender ego can only take so much when some guy who's just got into a carrier undocks behind an experienced pilot like myself and laughs as his carrier dwarfs mine.
Anyhow I've complained enough, at least it's comforting to know something will get done about it... eventually. I certainly hope sooner (next patch?) than later.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente
The Nest
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Posted - 2006.09.24 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin
I dont think the model upgrade is due untilt he graphics update, which isnt kali 1....
There's 2 graphics updates in the planning stages right no,and yes the major one comes with vista,but that won't happen till sometime next year at the very least,once there's a half decent user base that's on vista and DX10 graphics cards...
The remodeled mega,and scorpion are part of this update in kali 1,as well as the introduction of the new ships....Can't have the older ships look like well ****,compared to the new ones,now can we...
I'm sure other graphics related glitches,bigger stations,since undocking a Minnie dread is always a riot in pretty much every station in eve,or carriers that actually look like they can haul multiple cruisers and BC's,are scaled up by significantly....
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Posted - 2006.09.24 20:51:00 -
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Im a game developer myself and I really can't understand the sheer amount of these graphical bugs in EVE.
They are so apparent and can be easily fixed but no one is doing anything.
Single artist could propably fix them all in just couple of hours.
Based on what you've said the Chimera seems to be accidentally scaled down, which is a huge bug in my opinion.
I would be spanked for missing something like that so why aren't anyone being spanked at CCP?
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.25 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 24/09/2006 10:57:14
To those saying "devs say anything", they aren't because they already have. It was many months ago when they stated that the Chimera model size was bugged when they were adjusting the carrier model size to fit comfortably inside stations. This is also why the center point is at one end. They acknowledged it is a known issue and is on the to-do list to be fixed.
I'm a Chimera pilot and while it bugs me, I know that I've submitted a bug report about this with screenshots a long time ago, and I've been told it's known and unintended, so I'm content to stay quiet about it for now. Obviously if Kali 1 passes by and it's not fixed yet, I'll likely pipe up.
It really is humiliating to be in a capital ship of that size, and the center point bug just ruins the beauty of the ship. I can barely see a cool bridge at the back, as well as a semi-hidden-rear-facing runway, but all that beautiful artwork is lost when the camera sits kilometers behind the ship. It's also embarassing to watch it give birth to an ejected cruiser that is wider around than the ship itself.
If you want to really get a laugh, try ejecting a Mammoth. It's about the same dimensions as a Chimera. Not to mention, my tender ego can only take so much when some guy who's just got into a carrier undocks behind an experienced pilot like myself and laughs as his carrier dwarfs mine.
Anyhow I've complained enough, at least it's comforting to know something will get done about it... eventually. I certainly hope sooner (next patch?) than later.
I so hope you're right and it does come next patch
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RoCkEt X
Caldari
The Order of Chivalry
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:30:00 -
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Maybe when they tried comparing it to the rest of the ships a MWD got mixed up along the way and the mass on the chimera is much higher than what it should be. tbh if i slap a MWD on my crow it prolly has the same sig radius as the chimera should have.
i was in a system in lowsec last week and a chimera jumps in. i looked at it and realized the ship he was flying was either a very large thorax or a very small ferox CARRIERS SHOULD NOT BE THE MIDGETS OF EVE SHIPS!
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Gallente
The Nest
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 26/09/2006 21:33:47
Well,i boarded my archon for the first time yestarday and i will say that the experience was less than impressive to say the least,especially since i had just hopped off the dreadnaught,and the archon is actually the biggest carrier of the bunch to make matters worse...
Since i have now had the experience of seeing both first hand,i checked out the specifications for mass and volume for both ships,and the numbers there simply don't make any sense at all,since the carrier in question only has roughly 10% less mass than the dread(1012500000 kg for archon vs 1125000000 kg for the revelation),despite the fact that the archon is not only at least 5x smaller than the revelation(visually),but also has a 500 000m3 ship storage area and another 80000 M3 for drones,wich means large open spaces,so how is the archon so heavy in the first place,and the revelation only 10% heavier?,despite the huge size advantage.
Then we have the volume figures,and while here the difference is bigger between both,(18,500,000 M3 for revelation vs 13,950,000 M3 for the archon),the visual size difference between both ships suggests more like the archon couldn't possibly have more than 3~4 million M3 in overall volume(about 2x bigger than a BS),not almost 14 million M3....
Chimera is even worse off obviously,but all carriers should be a lot bigger than they are by those mass and volume numbers....I'd say to make the overall size of all smaller carriers about 3/4's of the size of their respective racial dread,and motherships grow to half the size of a titan....
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London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.27 22:46:00 -
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I think at the very least, its a case of visually regonisable in combat.
I was watching a video wherein a thanatos was being murdered and even though you lose a little quality watching fraps videos, i still could not see this ship amongst the other normal ships, i even knew where it was and what i was looking for! :(
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Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:55:00 -
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FIX BEFORE FEATURE!!!
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: digitalwanderer
Edited by: digitalwanderer on 26/09/2006 21:38:38
Well,i boarded my archon for the first time yestarday and i will say that the experience was less than impressive to say the least,especially since i had just hopped off the dreadnaught,and the archon is actually the biggest carrier of the bunch to make matters worse...
Since i have now had the experience of seeing both first hand,i checked out the specifications for mass and volume for both ships,and the numbers there simply don't make any sense at all,since the carrier in question only has roughly 10% less mass than the dread(1,012,500,000 kg for archon vs 1,125,000,000 kg for the revelation),despite the fact that the archon is not only at least 5x smaller than the revelation(visually),but also has a 500 000m3 ship storage area and another 80 000 M3 for drones,wich means large open spaces,so how is the archon so heavy in the first place,and the revelation only 10% heavier?,despite the huge size advantage.
Then we have the volume figures,and while here the difference is bigger between both,(18,500,000 M3 for revelation vs 13,950,000 M3 for the archon),the visual size difference between both ships suggests more like the archon couldn't possibly have more than 3~4 million M3 in overall volume(about 2x bigger than a BS),not almost 14 million M3....
Chimera is even worse off obviously,but all carriers should be a lot bigger than they are by those mass and volume numbers....I'd say to make the overall size of all smaller carriers about 3/4's of the size of their respective racial dread as a baseline,and motherships grow to half the size of a titan....
Nah, they're rather make already half useless carrier even more useless than fix bugs.
FIX BEFORE FEATURE
One of the CCP employees even went as far as saying, "visual bugs are not critical, quit complaning about it" ... which is very sad in my opinion.
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:26:00 -
[135]
Well I have my fingers crossed that this issue will be resolved in the Kali 1 update. Pretty pretty please.
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Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.02 00:48:00 -
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pls fix my chimera CCP :)
I dont mind about the size, caldari ships tend to be denser and less agile than most other ships anyway.
Just pls fix the bugged centre point, it makes navigation tricky, and the strange shape shield hardners and boosters make over the hull is really.... just wrong you know :P
pls pls pls thx lube you :D ♥
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Posted - 2006.10.04 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Luna Nilaya
Im a game developer myself and I really can't understand the sheer amount of these graphical bugs in EVE.
They are so apparent and can be easily fixed but no one is doing anything.
Single artist could propably fix them all in just couple of hours.
Based on what you've said the Chimera seems to be accidentally scaled down, which is a huge bug in my opinion.
I would be spanked for missing something like that so why aren't anyone being spanked at CCP?
Luna Nilaya you just stole my post... yea its few days work for 1 guy. i mean CCP does have all the models saved so where is the problem? 
btw all ships need resizing if we take a frigate as base size... cruisers and some BSs can pass but all other is a no-go.
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Caldari
Species 5618
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.04 21:22:00 -
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Not just the chimera is a midget ship i have recently realised, but the Wyvern is also not that much bigger than an apoc. the caldari carrier and MS are seriously undersized.
If you look on the eve chart of all ships (Clicky Here) you can see that the size of these ships look like they meant to be like that?
Please tell me that this aint so!, if the chimeras arnt suppose to be nothing more than a jumped up BS, that is seriously pathetic.
If the chim and ms are meant to be midget ships, im training a different race of carrier to save the shame of having to listen to the cry of laughter in local.
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Sol Flare
Caldari
The White Star Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.05 17:39:00 -
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On defense of the devs... I work for a software/hardware development company and there is something called a priority list!! This runs everything in the development side and requires the man (and woman) power of several different areas. So it isn't as easy as someone sitting down at the computer and adding a few more "inches" or resize the carrier, move center pivot to center, and then get it checked into the next code release.
Yes, it is small, looks puny, and it takes a BIGGER Caldari to undock in it... but the fact that this is just a cosmetic problem... VERY LOW on the priority list. Do not expect it to be fixed immediately. They have bigger fish to fry... They know it is an issue and an occasional bump on this thread would be fine... No need to twist the knife.
Patience, I've heard, is a virtue...
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Caldari
9th Fleet Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.05 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Hippo117 on 05/10/2006 22:11:46
Originally by: Sol Flare
On defense of the devs... I work for a software/hardware development company and there is something called a priority list!! This runs everything in the development side and requires the man (and woman) power of several different areas. So it isn't as easy as someone sitting down at the computer and adding a few more "inches" or resize the carrier, move center pivot to center, and then get it checked into the next code release.
I agree with you in theory, but when you look at other things that should have a low priority, this defense is out. Why did we have the escrow and bounty tabs in the mission screen switched? Why was the square 'I' button changed to a circle? Why were personal ship info windows set to expand so no tab names were compressed, and now they can't be shrunk manually? That all came in dragon too, none of which is any more important than a ship resizing, but it was done regardless.
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Caldari
The White Star Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.05 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hippo117
I agree with you in theory, but when you look at other things that should have a low priority, this defense is out. Why did we have the escrow and bounty tabs in the mission screen switched? Why was the square 'I' button changed to a circle? Why were personal ship info windows set to expand so no tab names were compressed, and now they can't be shrunk manually? That all came in dragon too, none of which is any more important than a ship resizing, but it was done regardless.
Depends what code you are currently working in and where the modifications are in those codes. But really what I meant to say is there is a behind the scenes priority list. That tells where and what code needs to be fixed/modified and cosmetic changes can be applied during this time... that is when it will get applied not before not after. Hence you see those changes you mentioned... Lots of work is going into the escrow system. Also some of those things you listed are probably called globally... so a change to one line of code and quick verification as opposed to changing serveral lines of several codes that call from other areas followed by several days if not weeks of verification that the fix is in place and it didn't screw anything else up.
Every time you add/change the code there is a chance that it will get broke. Kali will most likely have this fix. But honestly... if you look at the man hours it takes to change those little things listed above to the man hours it would take to resize/correct center pivot, I'm almost certain you can double if not triple it.
Do not forget those symbols, tabs, and windows... are not in a true 3d map! Cool lighting effects yes... Hence why I believe those are global calls. Much more coding and QA work would be required for this fix.
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Caldari
9th Fleet Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.06 00:41:00 -
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Oh, i do agree, I'm a programmer myself. But i've also done 3d modeling (and texturing) for games before, and know that making a ship model doesnt change a bit of code, its all in the model's data and hirarchy.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.06 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sol Flare
Originally by: Hippo117
I agree with you in theory, but when you look at other things that should have a low priority, this defense is out. Why did we have the escrow and bounty tabs in the mission screen switched? Why was the square 'I' button changed to a circle? Why were personal ship info windows set to expand so no tab names were compressed, and now they can't be shrunk manually? That all came in dragon too, none of which is any more important than a ship resizing, but it was done regardless.
Depends what code you are currently working in and where the modifications are in those codes. But really what I meant to say is there is a behind the scenes priority list. That tells where and what code needs to be fixed/modified and cosmetic changes can be applied during this time... that is when it will get applied not before not after. Hence you see those changes you mentioned... Lots of work is going into the escrow system. Also some of those things you listed are probably called globally... so a change to one line of code and quick verification as opposed to changing serveral lines of several codes that call from other areas followed by several days if not weeks of verification that the fix is in place and it didn't screw anything else up.
Every time you add/change the code there is a chance that it will get broke. Kali will most likely have this fix. But honestly... if you look at the man hours it takes to change those little things listed above to the man hours it would take to resize/correct center pivot, I'm almost certain you can double if not triple it.
Do not forget those symbols, tabs, and windows... are not in a true 3d map! Cool lighting effects yes... Hence why I believe those are global calls. Much more coding and QA work would be required for this fix.
This go far beyond just what you explain right there my dear programer friend.
This goes to the point how CCP/DEVS/BH push out broken content into the game just for the sake of getting it there. No matter how messed up it is... and that to me is ignorance. We'll all, and they did as well, perfecly knew that sizes were bugged, recon ships are not working as they are, gang modules are buggged....etc just to list a few, but yet, the mentallity "lets push it out there to keep them all at bay and attrack more dollar signs (new user base)" is sad
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and guess what, we still have a lot of stuff broken, but what are our dear Devs concirned about..... i'll give ya hint, starts with a K and ends with an I and has AL in the middle, AKA Revelations... which i'm "assuming" will have more broken content to add to whatever we already have..
m'kay thanks, bye
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2006.10.06 20:31:00 -
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This is one of that bugs that i as a player dont give rats a** ,because there is alot more things to fix that the "oh my my carrier feels small" effect.
Maybe because i see some things that need more work that this bug ,just to name a few: INSTAS,ECM,Improving server and client code = less LAG .
And i have to say this : fix the minmatar carrier.
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.10.09 18:14:00 -
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Honestly i'll be amazed when any plans to change those big changes comes into actual existence and is more then just thoughs on the issue.
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DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.11 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: CrazzlY on 11/10/2006 23:37:44
BUMP!
Any response from the devs, please?
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:02:00 -
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Please could we have a dev response to this issue? :)
Just a "yes we are gonna fix it" or "no we aint gonna fix it". If the former then an indication of timescale e.g. "kali 1" or "after kali" type of thing?
Would put my mind at ease... thnks
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Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.10.14 00:48:00 -
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lack of response = ain't gonna fix it.
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Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.10.15 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Fuujin
lack of response = ain't gonna fix it.
No, six months down the line you'll have somebody respond with "Holy crap guys, I never even knew of this issue!"
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Posted - 2006.10.16 20:39:00 -
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bump
lets bump until they will see this thread.
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Caldari
Farscape Mining
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Posted - 2006.10.17 02:57:00 -
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/Signed
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.18 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hammerfall Ceo
bump
lets bump until they will see this thread.
They done saw it, just chose to ignore it....
just a guess there..
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Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.20 17:30:00 -
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bump
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Posted - 2006.10.20 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: TheFirstInquisitor on 20/10/2006 22:03:55
/Free bump
Just a thought, as the Chimera has a sheild bonus as opposed to the Thantos` lovely drone damage bonus, does this mean it is intended front line operations? My instincts says no, and that all carriers should be made to reflest this oversight in Carriers. My alt is training for Thantos to sit in SS and assighn Dragonflies to my main ship. Frankly i love Caldari as my main race, but from an even starting point, Thantos will win the majority of the time.
To recap, balance number of carriers ingame by either remving the Thantos drone damage mod, or give it to all carriers.
Thankyou and goodnight
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Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.10.22 06:41:00 -
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It's not going to be pretty if Kali 1 comes along and at the very least the focal point of the chimera isn't fixed.
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GreenLight
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Posted - 2006.10.22 23:07:00 -
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/bump
Devs make sure this is fixed please!
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Backup Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.23 12:15:00 -
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:06:00 -
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looks like the caldari need some
Enzyte
what was funny is despite the caldari haveing a smaller display ship thier ship has a larger sig radius then the amarr carrier.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 23:30:00 -
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BUMP BUMP BUMP CCP? ARE YOU THERE?
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Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.10.24 00:03:00 -
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shall we take bets if it's fixed on sisi tomorrow?
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Caldari
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Edited by: Th3 HuNt3r on 24/10/2006 03:25:09
I rlly hope that this does get fixed soon. When i first was actually around a chimera i had no idea it was even a carrier. First thought it was some kind of faction bs or sumpin until i did show info Ill be flying one soon and hope that this will get fixed as im tired of flying crappy looking caldari ships around!
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Minmatar
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Edited by: sr blackout on 24/10/2006 08:20:05
while we talk about this... i hope that the hp boost is also for carriers if not... then someone is going to go on a podding spree
btw with all that hp maybe the caldari carrier can hide and look like a bs
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HDY Research Labs
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Posted - 2006.10.24 13:23:00 -
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Anyone who gets on the test server please check if these changes were made.
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Originally by: sr blackout
Edited by: sr blackout on 24/10/2006 08:20:05
while we talk about this... i hope that the hp boost is also for carriers if not... then someone is going to go on a podding spree
btw with all that hp maybe the caldari carrier can hide and look like a bs
Was only on Test for a sec but Thanatos gets now base:
100k shields
125k Armor
150k structure
So all Carriers will be same id say
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Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:00:00 -
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pics!! i want capital pics plz!!
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:12:00 -
[166]
I hope that the chimera size is fixed 
*begins to get test server patch
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Fuujin
HDY Research Labs
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:22:00 -
[167]
any news regarding size? :D
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Big Bang
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:40:00 -
[168]
Just managed to log onto test server. Size and camera issues are still present on the chimera sadly.
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Rio Silverwind
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:36:00 -
[169]
There's still isn't any changes on the chimera size?
Sad... and i thought the dev would look into this matter and fix it on kali or coming patchs.
Its really dissapointing to undock the chimera having to see the apoc have bigger size than the chimera... and raven beside almost close to the size of chimera minus the bits of the lenght.
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Drutort
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.25 17:40:00 -
[170]
they should fix the sizes i dont get it...
and the fighters better get like 100% boost or more, they do not have any plates/extenders or what not... and all other ships can tank far far longer and can kill the fighters in current state very fast...
you will end up with no fighters and just a target... while losing some 100-200M isk in seconds, i hope they make maybe the sig size smaller and make the fighters to be able to have a chance to hit small targets? its about time we get fighter bonus from other drone modules or skills... cause just the fighter and carrier skill is not enough, for carriers to be on the frontline
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akula2
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Posted - 2006.10.26 07:03:00 -
[171]
some news or test from sisi ?
especially for the size of this ship ...
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Ceanthar Cerbera
Minmatar
Lone Gunmen
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.10.26 09:27:00 -
[172]
Well I would really like to see an proper size fr the carriers also. But the reason behind the size is that if it was the right size it wouldnt fit in the stations. So I guess you choose. Having a carrier dockable or the right size. Im all for correct proportions and see no problem with the carrier not being dockable. But then again I dont fly those..
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Paigan
Amarr
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.26 09:31:00 -
[173]
The only word that comes to my mind - as far as TECHNICAL skills are concearned - when looking at this (as well as when looking at dozends of other ships like amarr shuttle, apoc, thorax, raven, etc, etc) is:
Amateurs
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Drachma Golea
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Posted - 2006.10.26 10:45:00 -
[174]
bump
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:21:00 -
[175]
god damn fix it grrr...
look, i'll fix it send me the model!!
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Algan Skunk
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Posted - 2006.10.27 01:52:00 -
[176]
hi i m no carrier pilot but i ve heard one positiv thing about the chimera size bug: people don t realize it s a carrier so they think they can own it then get really surprised when they realize what they are really attacking...
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Fuujin
HDY Research Labs
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Posted - 2006.10.27 04:23:00 -
[177]
/sigh
please ccp, after the hyperion model if finished can someone pretty pretty please attend to this issue?
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Atrisha
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.27 20:54:00 -
[178]
/signed
This is a pretty ridiculous problem, not to mention an easy fix. Why no dev response?
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Caldari
Mining is my way
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Posted - 2006.10.28 15:36:00 -
[179]
/signed!
It should be fixed asap.
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Corona Solissa
The Black Morias
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Posted - 2006.10.29 02:38:00 -
[180]
I'm well aware that I'm probably flogging a dead horse, but I'd really like to see those changes made and want to voice my support for Voxy's suggestions.
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Ceratin
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.29 03:48:00 -
[181]
That does look kinda silly, the shield pic
suggests it was alot longer at some point.
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:04:00 -
[182]
Edited by: akula2 on 29/10/2006 16:04:57
i log on sisi today
same bug on the chimera ! :(
please dev tell us what happening !
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Raziel
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:22:00 -
[183]
well, im not going to post with my main about this. Iv been playing for 3 years and it seems like the bugs get worse each patch. I only missed 1 mont of payments and im not sure i even want to see kali. will be a thousend new bugs added to the thousands existing already. seriously we have been *****ing about bugs since beta and they just dont care enough to fix them. they just keep releasing new bugs. i am sick of it and dont think ill be renewing my subscription next month. so those of you who think *****ing will do anything, good luck. im going to a new game that cares about the quality of the game, not just money.
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Mai Shiranui
Amarr
Petshop Hunters
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:43:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Raziel
well, im not going to post with my main about this. Iv been playing for 3 years and it seems like the bugs get worse each patch. I only missed 1 mont of payments and im not sure i even want to see kali. will be a thousend new bugs added to the thousands existing already. seriously we have been *****ing about bugs since beta and they just dont care enough to fix them. they just keep releasing new bugs. i am sick of it and dont think ill be renewing my subscription next month. so those of you who think *****ing will do anything, good luck. im going to a new game that cares about the quality of the game, not just money.
Raz, I suggest Gravity Interactives games for you, though you might not like their lack of worldwide PvP. On the up side, I've never seen a massivly bugged patch, and the patches are usually avalible 2 weeks before they go live on the server.
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Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:54:00 -
[185]
/signed
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:45:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Oz Borne on 30/10/2006 00:48:18
All we want is an acknowledgement that this issue will be fixed at some point - we dont care when.
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Posted - 2006.10.30 12:57:00 -
[187]
Hey m8
This is definitely not fair, if you have played for 3 years then you should know better. I my self have played the betas of EVE and let me tell you bugs at that time wore really bugs.
CCP certainty improved greatly upon those error boxes with endless error messages that popped up all the time before the launch of EVE. Given there are bugs and properly a lot of them but we as players have a grate influence on this bugs!!
Bookmarks, Logof pvp (LogOfSki), Gate CRASHING you name it...most of the errors are due to other palyers exploiting the game and well i suppose when CCP prioritizes the bugs they have a tendency to try and fix those once that make server nodes crash!
So if you want to blam anyone you should start with BOB, ASCN, RED and most of the other big alliance that use server node crashes as an advantage in there struggles to dominate space!!!
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Originally by: Raziel
well, im not going to post with my main about this. Iv been playing for 3 years and it seems like the bugs get worse each patch. I only missed 1 mont of payments and im not sure i even want to see kali. will be a thousend new bugs added to the thousands existing already. seriously we have been *****ing about bugs since beta and they just dont care enough to fix them. they just keep releasing new bugs. i am sick of it and dont think ill be renewing my subscription next month. so those of you who think *****ing will do anything, good luck. im going to a new game that cares about the quality of the game, not just money.
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Posted - 2006.10.30 14:52:00 -
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i dont understand why capital ships dont use an "external docking ring" - granted you wouldnt be able to show all the models attached to it, but just the idea would work.
I mean, you dont see a charater dock, so why is it needed to see them undock
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.30 17:51:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Raziel
well, im not going to post with my main about this. Iv been playing for 3 years and it seems like the bugs get worse each patch. I only missed 1 mont of payments and im not sure i even want to see kali. will be a thousend new bugs added to the thousands existing already. seriously we have been *****ing about bugs since beta and they just dont care enough to fix them. they just keep releasing new bugs. i am sick of it and dont think ill be renewing my subscription next month. so those of you who think *****ing will do anything, good luck. im going to a new game that cares about the quality of the game, not just money.
I know how you feel bud, i'm in the same boat, after 3+ years and yelling Fix Before Feature i'm finally tired, hearing things from devs like "Its a graphical bug, why are you wasting our time bug reporting it" made me feel like "doody". Comments like this is making me slower realize that this great world of eve has become something else, and is targeted towards immature "pew, pew, pew, boom and thats all i care about crowd" ..... oh and bigger server numbers.
In the last month I Logged for total of 10 minutes and hover my mouse over "suspend" buttom at least once a day, and really start thinking.... this is a flipin game, and is the game that causes so much frustration worth it...
Well, i'm gonna quit crying about it like a little girl, plan is to give it a week after Kali patch, then we can all gather around a big camp fire and watch my stuff burn to ashes..... cause ya can't have it
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Nikolus Wrighte
Caldari
JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:58:00 -
[190]
the caldari modo. if power over size. just becuase its small doesnt mean its a pushover
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:31:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Nikolus Wrighte
the caldari modo. if power over size. just becuase its small doesnt mean its a pushover
Correct me if i'm wrong ...but...uhmm dont think there's anything about power, or being pushover in this thread. This is purely an annoying visual bug.
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chaos98
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Posted - 2006.11.02 11:24:00 -
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hey, it may be bugged in size but atleast it still servers its function...they havent messed that one up... yet...
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Naru Kraurr
Minmatar
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.02 17:33:00 -
[193]
I'll just add my Amen to this thread.
I've been training towards this ship for a while now and saw one last week. I couldn't believe it! The Badger looks more impressive!
Boost the size please, pretty please
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xaix ikkul
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Posted - 2006.11.03 10:25:00 -
[194]
fix before feature or the bunny gets it.
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akula2
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:03:00 -
[195]
fix it please or tell us why it's not important for you
dev please
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Bannedkiller
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Posted - 2006.11.04 20:26:00 -
[196]
you would think after 7 pages a dev would atleast tell us if they are planning to fix this or if they ment it to be like this
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Jenessa
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:26:00 -
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I think it's pretty obvious that CCP didnt intend for the Chimera to look as it does. But it's also pretty obvious to me that because of the complete lack of any official response to this thread, and lets be honest the thread is old enough that it's not gonna get fixed anytime soon, it's obviously so far down the list of things to do that they wont even commit to achnowledging there is a problem to be fixed. I am a Chimera pilot and it does bug me that certain battleships are bigger than it. C'mon CCP prove me wrong here, give the Chimera the love it deserves to make it look the part.
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xaix ikkul
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Posted - 2006.11.05 11:38:00 -
[198]
I'm sure if someone started taking screen shots of the graphical bugs and mailed them to ve3d to be posted on the front page they'd do something about it.
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HeadWar
Minmatar
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:10:00 -
[199]
I'd like to add the Cyclone to the list of off-center center point ships. Size seems about right, but the shield booster/hardener effect looks stupid.
I don't know how these models are coded or stored or anything, but I can't imagine this taking much more than ten minutes for a skilled 3D artist to fix? (Someone correct me if I'm completely off base here.)
It's just a visual bug, sure, but visuals are important too.
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akula2
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Posted - 2006.11.07 15:57:00 -
[200]
Same problem with the cyclone except the cyclone have a real size!
The biggest problem of the chimera is not that the center point is at back of the ship but it's smaller than an apoc.
but dev do not want to bring us any info to this bug it's not a good new
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Goddance
Wyrakami Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.07 19:43:00 -
[201]
Originally by: j0sephine
As well as for pointing out the Amarr for some strange reason make all their ships considerably bigger than any other race... ;s
/me has Amarr envy
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.08 19:12:00 -
[202]
Anybody compare Rokh to Chimera yet, are they same size or is Rokh bigger
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.11.08 20:29:00 -
[203]
I have and the rokh is bigger.
...and on that note i just wish to add that i just now cancelled my main account as well as my alt account until this issue is looked into. It would be nice if CCP actually made a post regarding it but as it stands now it's just a slap t the face to everyone who has posted in this thread regarding this issue. How many months and how many posts later? By now they have to be intentionally ignoring this thread. Anywho i don't care to make this a 'look at me cancelling accounts to fight against ccp!' post however even if it is miniscule i just want them to know that's 30 less usd they'll be getting each month simply for being to stubborn to do a single post.
It's been mostly fun.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.08 23:14:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Fuujin
I have and the rokh is bigger.
...and on that note i just wish to add that i just now cancelled my main account as well as my alt account until this issue is looked into. It would be nice if CCP actually made a post regarding it but as it stands now it's just a slap t the face to everyone who has posted in this thread regarding this issue. How many months and how many posts later? By now they have to be intentionally ignoring this thread. Anywho i don't care to make this a 'look at me cancelling accounts to fight against ccp!' post however even if it is miniscule i just want them to know that's 30 less usd they'll be getting each month simply for being to stubborn to do a single post.
It's been mostly fun.
But yet they have time to nerf your sig...
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Posted - 2006.11.09 12:49:00 -
[205]
Edited by: akula2 on 09/11/2006 12:52:49
Edited by: akula2 on 09/11/2006 12:52:28
yes the SIG is more important for them that a ship who take 6 months of skills to have for a ship who is not finished after many months
so it become to be ridiculous CCP...
i hope you read these lines and prepare to do something before many account cancelled for a minor graphic problem
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DrLogan
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.11.10 02:56:00 -
[206]
CCP......you there?
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Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:11:00 -
[207]
Hello Mcfly??? Anyone home??
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:53:00 -
[208]
Edited by: akula2 on 10/11/2006 10:55:53
23575 view ond not one dev ?
how is it possible to ignore the problem ?
we dont want you to change the rules or anything who affect the gameplay but only finish the ship.
but it seems too hard or not important
but it's not the most important in this thread now.
the new problem of the chimera is :
your silence about this post
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Merrick Solipsus
Flashman Services
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.11 17:10:00 -
[209]
Maybe someone at Fanfest can pin a graphics guy in the corner and get an answer. :)
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:42:00 -
[210]
Well we asked redundancy about the chimera after his presentation and brought the two issues to his attention. Still no promises but hopefully the center point bug will be sorted soon, the size issue would have to be discussed with the art team and so looks more unlikely of being fixed quickly.
Frankly I just don't see a fix until the graphics upgrade. When their spending so much time re skinning every single ship they most likely don't want to fix issues which they will have to redo anyway.
Lets just hope with a graphics update they see it needs a size update.
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Feafalas
Caldari
5punkorp
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:51:00 -
[211]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Well we asked redundancy about the chimera after his presentation and brought the two issues to his attention. Still no promises but hopefully the center point bug will be sorted soon, the size issue would have to be discussed with the art team and so looks more unlikely of being fixed quickly.
Frankly I just don't see a fix until the graphics upgrade. When their spending so much time re skinning every single ship they most likely don't want to fix issues which they will have to redo anyway.
Lets just hope with a graphics update they see it needs a size update.
Thanks for trying Loxy, perhaps you should have 'half-sized' him and see how he liked it!
8 months training for my carrier, and oh look, it's smaller than an apoc. And when I ejected an iteron V out of it I seriously considered renaming it goatse (if you understand that reference, I pity you - but go to b3ta.com, you'll fit fit in).
This thread is SCREAMING for a single, simple dev reply. Just a 'we are aware and it'll be in the first hotfix to Kali' would be nice. All ship sizing needs evaluation, but start with the single worst mistake made by anyone in CCP. As for the 'we had problems in station answer from ISD', that's no excuse. You don't fix a problem in the game mechanics by doing a half-hearted job.
Fix, fix, fix is the cry and not even a token response? You're just lucky I didn't get my ship until the weekend of the fanfest or I'd've flown to Iceland and screamed at the lot of you sat there on your drunken stage of shame.
Shame on CCP.
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5punkorp
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Edited by: Wiggy69 on 15/11/2006 10:15:00
Originally by: Feafalas
Fix, fix, fix is the cry and not even a token response? You're just lucky I didn't get my ship until the weekend of the fanfest or I'd've flown to Iceland and screamed at the lot of you sat there on your drunken stage of shame.
Shame on CCP.
I'll agree there. I was the one to open the Cyno field to jump Fea down to our POS last week, it just sort of went *schoom* *carrier appears*......."WTF, is that it?" I swear, it's only twice the size of my Pilgrim, and that's a cruiser, for God's sake!
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Posted - 2006.11.16 10:41:00 -
[213]
So essentially nothing is being done about it for quite some time to come.
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Rydis
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:10:00 -
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Hehe, guess not. Meanwhile it's annoying the hell out of my CEO finding out his new toy is smaller than my hauler. Pure genius
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.11.17 17:11:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Takaharu Tsuyoshi
So essentially nothing is being done about it for quite some time to come.
Pretty much, but if there is, it must be top top super high top secret which the rest of the eve community can not know about, and the reason we can not know about must be also top secret.....
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Takaharu Tsuyoshi
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Posted - 2006.11.17 21:47:00 -
[216]
I can live with the size for a while but for the love of god fix the ****ed center point, it can't honestly take any significant amount of work to do.
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Takahashi Arran
Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.19 20:01:00 -
[217]
/bump we go for this essential topic i think.. come on devs IT wouldn;t take long as a fix compared to all the new ship models ect in kali. Its such a shame because it has the potential to be right up there with the archon and the nidhogg as one of the best looking ships in the game and a real ambassador for the eve GFX engine..
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Emiug
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.21 03:31:00 -
[218]
they say its just graphical...
but... how many times have the rigs/ship rubbish parts changed in the last few patches?
pls just scale or something :D
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London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.21 19:38:00 -
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Hmm, i haven't posted in this topic for a few months, so here's my bump.
And yeah, the Rokh is a very decent size, why do i get the feeling its a good deal longer at least) that the Chimera appears to be?
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Central Defiance
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.22 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider
2) Bugged center point.
Says it all
Simple pure bug this. The center point for the carrier is stuck right at the back. Perhaps a relic of the carrier being much larger? Or just a silly mistake. This causes all sorts of little problems.
Shields extending miles behind the ship, another angle.
HAHA! you got caught out there, devs! lol. i think youll need to address that.
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Posted - 2006.11.22 13:02:00 -
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"Oh noes, its too big for Caldari! Quick, nerf the size!! NERF THE SIZE!!!"
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Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.11.22 13:29:00 -
[222]
I bought this ship for my e-peen, i feel let down :(
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Caldari
Lunar Dawn
DIES IRAE.
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Posted - 2006.11.23 14:13:00 -
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I will be in one of these babies very very soon, and the whole size thing makes me want to cry.
Its a shame Carriers cant use gates for being too big despite being smaller than other ships that can use gates, else we could all unite as Chimera pilots and go hold Jita ransom until they fixed it.
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Caldari
g guild
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Posted - 2006.11.23 23:37:00 -
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I was up in 0.0 and saw a Chimera next to a Moros. I almost ****ed my pants LOL.
This ship must mostly exsist in another demension, when you read it's stats, ther is no way it is all there.
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Posted - 2006.11.24 10:01:00 -
[225]
ur lack or faith disagree us
its another caldari miracle of miniature engineering
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.24 23:10:00 -
[226]
I rember reading this post back when it was only 1 page; it depresses me that it hasn't had a token set of gold bars since then
Its not an e-peen thing for me (seeing as I don't own one) but it is immersion breaking and irritating. Bugs like this get on my nerves, because they should be one of the first things fixed after discovery.
But then again, Hammerhead Is *still* have the Valkyrie model, and Hobgoblin IIs *still* have the Hammerhead model- and they've been in the game, what, 3 years? I wouldn't hold your breath.........
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Sovarin
Caldari
Species 5618
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.25 10:19:00 -
[227]
Not even the long looked forward to kali/revelations has fixed this simple graphical bug yet
The first thing i did when i logged onto the test server was buy a chimera to see how it suppose to look in all its glory, but nope... same old bugs.
stop sticking in new content in patches! fix the old half finished ships you stuck in the last patch before you put in new ones!
/insert roar of laughter from noobs when they see there bs is bigger
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Posted - 2006.11.25 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Boshart on 25/11/2006 12:59:55
Edited by: Boshart on 25/11/2006 12:59:08
Well here is my reply after reading the topic and i am a owner of a chimera, and yes its size even cruisers are big.
When i for the first time jumped in to our hq i told to my members to get into a shuttle if the want have a look at it
so i was hoping that it wil be fixed on the 28th
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Galazar
EnMass
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Posted - 2006.11.25 13:45:00 -
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I just feel let down, truly and utterly let down...
Granted, its a combination, the center point of the ship IS incredibly annoy and inconvenient, the ship size is just an added kick in the balls... my ceo laughs at me when we fly alongside, in his big arse archon...
I really dont get why it isn't being looked at!
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Galazar
EnMass
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Posted - 2006.11.25 14:04:00 -
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Plus if you compare the mass of the archon to the chimera, the archon's mass isn't more than 15% above the mass of the chimera...a true sign that this is an error on ccp's part...pweaseee fix it and make me a happy man
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Posted - 2006.11.25 16:13:00 -
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pulled up next to a chimera in my rokh. laughed...
then tanked the fighters
and to think im training for one....
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Posted - 2006.11.26 11:06:00 -
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u must see an interon V near a chimera
this is the miracle of caldari miniaturization
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BranBresil
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.27 02:59:00 -
[233]
Edited by: BranBresil on 27/11/2006 03:01:12
Time to jump on the bandwagon, this really needs fixed. Just sat my hyperion next to a chimera on SiSi.. Disgusted probably best describes my reaction, all my feelings have been previously voiced by others. The big problem for me, is this is a huge immersion killer, again, this ship, smaller than my battleship, somehow can't use stargates? Come on... And I wonder why not a single dev reply. Even a "Screw you, we have other priorities" would at least let us know where the devs stand on the matter.
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Miyoko Sanae
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.27 10:47:00 -
[234]
Heh actually was fihting a corp mate in a Chimera the other night while i was in a hyperion. I couldn't believe it, it's fairly smaller.
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:01:00 -
[235]
Not the best picture but close enough
So, why can't the carrier use a jumpgate? If you're going to leave it this size it might as well be allowed.
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Andy Roo
Caldari
Lunar Dawn
DIES IRAE.
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Posted - 2006.11.27 13:24:00 -
[236]
Got in my Chimera last night, the size, the shield hardner effect spreading waay behind the ship, the size, the bugged camera, the size. Its somewhat donkey **** that its not fixed, and even worse that there is no dev reply to just communicate with us over it. Just a "Being fixed with graphics upgrade" would be nice, give us something to look forward to, and something to be happy about. Instead we get laughed at and have to sit alone in the corner, crying ourselves to sleep*.
The lack of response makes me think they wont fix it, and theyll just leave it for ages, which is a shame, as my faith in CCP is still frayed somewhat. Please CCP, just talk to us.
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FireWynd
Caldari
Finis Lumen Asylum
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Posted - 2006.11.27 15:30:00 -
[237]
After readin this topic, im purposely not getting chimera now because of this ship size/mid point in wrong place thing is fixed. I know maybe it sounds stupid cuz its just graphical, but guess what, your ALWAYS looking at on screen when piloting, dont want to look at crap. Please fix.
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FireWynd
Caldari
Finis Lumen Asylum
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Posted - 2006.11.28 15:44:00 -
[238]
Heres some good news in the Known Issues for Revelations:
*The Chimera's centerpoint is not at the models center
So it looks like they at least know about that problem and should get fixed soon
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Boshart
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Posted - 2006.11.29 07:25:00 -
[239]
hmm well what is "soon".
was hoping it was fixed but no :( ..i am now unable to zoom in my carrier with my scroller so i can see no realy how small my carrier is.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:23:00 -
[240]
Here's an idea, Change the skins of the Rokh and Chimera... since Rokh is bigger
/end sarcasm .....
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.12.02 23:20:00 -
[241]
You meanies... quit bumping out thread off the first page
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Originally by: some nub ..aka recovering WoW person
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flaming phantom
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Posted - 2006.12.03 06:37:00 -
[242]
how the chimera is a really small carrier, the chimera was the first and only capital ship ive ever seen, and honestly thats exactly what i thought when i sqw it.
"this ship is so freakin small, i think capital hips should be a lot larger, these are so unimpressive" was probably wat i was thinkin then. now i realize that maybe they are impressive to see, i just happened to see the smallest of them all
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Mr roboto
Caldari
Brute Force Missions inc
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Posted - 2006.12.03 22:41:00 -
[243]
it is Vary small yes but allso the Bonus for the Shild Transfer is not working and that needs to be fixed allso
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2006.12.04 04:47:00 -
[244]
It would be fixed if they fixed the size of the ship...
CCP FIX THE SHIP ALREADY! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!
Well.. this just changed my training list.. just heard news about this and i was half way into training for it.
Looks like ill be canceling and going to something else instead.
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Vansain Kell
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Posted - 2006.12.04 06:01:00 -
[245]
Capital ships need more appropriate scaling.
/signed and bumped.
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2006.12.04 15:11:00 -
[246]
Well I petitioned it, I hope something comes out of this.
Otherwise it's a good waste of my time =]
Basically just asked if it's being worked on and for someone to be notified about this post and hopefully they could atleast respond to us..
All im asking for is a "were working on it, it should be fixed within the [insert time-frame here]" post.
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Boshart
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.04 22:17:00 -
[247]
see nothing in :Changes, Fixes and Improvements in the next patch
and get more bugs now ....no more zoom in on carrier and when people gets bumps to me there is empty space between te member and my carrier
so whats going on here ? fix ther carrier i skilled about 100d for it payed lot of isk for it and what i see ? that cruisers are biger then me 
Horizon Inc.
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:33:00 -
[248]
bump
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Ricky1989
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2006.12.05 11:33:00 -
[249]
/Signed.
Also if this carrier is half the size it should be, i demand half of the skills needed for it to be cut
PLEASE FIX CCP
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Ulair Memmet
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Posted - 2006.12.06 09:41:00 -
[250]
Gallente for life...
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.12.07 22:14:00 -
[251]
Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 07/12/2006 22:36:12
Originally by: Ulair Memmet
Gallente for life...
Thats one needs a steroid shot too Don't see how a flat pancake can fit anything in it either
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Ulair Memmet
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Posted - 2006.12.07 22:54:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 07/12/2006 22:36:12
Originally by: Ulair Memmet
Gallente for life...
Thats one needs a steroid shot too Don't see how a flat pancake can fit anything in it either
At least our "pancake" knows how to move like a pancake
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:02:00 -
[253]
This is probably the 5th or 6th time I've posted on this thread over the past few months, and it's quite sad that our carrier STILL is the size of an industrial ship.
Ironically, I've been having people compliment me "Hey, nice Rokh!".
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Aion Amarra
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:03:00 -
[254]
At least the centerpoint is on the Known Issues page.
The size, however, isn't. Argh!
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:03:00 -
[255]
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
Ironically, I've been having people compliment me "Hey, nice Rokh!".
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Posted - 2006.12.08 17:26:00 -
[256]
Still no reply to my petition or even on these boards... lol
Isnt it funny how MMORPG companies always seem to do something wrong and than completely avoid making eye contact in that matter?
Im starting to think making the caldari carrier the size it is wasnt an "accident"..
With the way they are acting, who would know the difference?
.. I mean really, how hard would this be to fix, I think someone is just being lazy here.
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:09:00 -
[257]
Any responce yet CCP?
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MailFan
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.13 10:02:00 -
[258]
Not giving up, still demand bigger Chimera-Peen
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Diablique
The Forsakened Few
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Posted - 2006.12.13 13:33:00 -
[259]
I don't understand you people.
Chimera is the only carrier that can scoop all of its deployed sentries without traveling 2km to pick up out of range drones.
It's an advantage being small, DON'T FIX IT.
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Boshart
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:11:00 -
[260]
Edited by: Boshart on 13/12/2006 18:11:21
are you crazy its not a a advantage its a bug
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Titiania
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Posted - 2006.12.14 09:27:00 -
[261]
CCP Pleeeeaaaase change the Chimera's size
Comeon, it has been months now and still nothing..you have change som many things cant be that hard...comeon...its a freaking joke to fly a chimera !!!!
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 15:35:00 -
[262]
I agree, carriers need to not only be fixed in terms of individual sizes..but I'd also vote that the Amarr Carrier (Archon) get's a few alterations..I mean look at it's engines..2 HUUUUGE!! sticks sticking out the back of it like it's nobody's buisness...I mean..atleast fill up the hole or shorten them down..looks retarded.
HOWEVER!
I am also going to play the devil's advocate here and say that the size differentials, not to mention design, would logically take a backseat priority versus actual performance issues and exploits.
Just my 2 cents
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HeadWar
Minmatar
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.12.15 00:56:00 -
[263]
Heh, killed one of these babies today. (It was mining in low sec, accompanied by a Hulk...)
Looked at the Fraps afterwards, and it looks extremely silly, with five BS orbiting around it, all of them larger than the carrier...
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.16 01:19:00 -
[264]
This is never getting fixed is it?
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Lochraven
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Posted - 2006.12.16 03:49:00 -
[265]
I thought the graphics in eve were great. I don't anymore. So depressing to find out that the time and effort i've put into training the skills leads to a total dissapointment.
Who here was dreaming of something like Battlestar Galactica? I'm a fan of the series and was looking forward to the grandure of a carrier class "capital ship" (along with all the other cool things) but .. yeah.
/signed
/disappointed
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Zae'dra Xanthe
Fist of the Goat
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Posted - 2006.12.16 20:05:00 -
[266]
I would just like an answer either way. It should be a nice 1-2 sentence response but, we get nothing. Obviously with this many posts in the thread, people want an answer.
Why aren't we getting one? Even a "We're not sure how to proceed with this ship and were working on an answer". Look, only 4 seconds.
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Boshart
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.17 20:52:00 -
[267]
Maybe this topic is to small
Horizon Inc.
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ShadowDuke
Caldari
Territorial Arms
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Posted - 2006.12.18 06:34:00 -
[268]
Seriously, Please fix this, I am trying to get a carrier up and running and I want to wow my corp, not have them all laugh at me. "HAHAHA you trained for 4 months strait for that? BWAHAHAHA!!!!!"
People shouldnt laugh at their CEO's because their ship is tiny.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:26:00 -
[269]
Come on, think we can get to 50 pages by the end of the year?
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.18 20:24:00 -
[270]
Why did the chicked cross the road?
Because from across the street Chimera didn't look any bigger than a tasty worm...
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Jain Za
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Posted - 2006.12.19 11:13:00 -
[271]
We know you have more important things to think about Oveur, but just saying you know about the problem and that it will be fixed one day would ease our suffering
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F2C MaDMaXX
London Transport
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.19 19:25:00 -
[272]
I can't believe this thread is still live, without a dev so much as saying, the center point bug is on the known issues page.
But, well, actually i can believe its still here, even with the center point bug fixed, as far as everyone here knows, it will still be stupidly small.
Now, i might be wrong, but is there a chance that the center point "bug" is actually causing the smallness? (as a work around?)
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.21 10:26:00 -
[273]
Also something I just remembered, which I think we should remember...Battleships are actually HUGE ships...if I remember they're what...the size of Starwars star destroyer? I mean for the longest time (before capital ships), I saw Battleships as the capital ships...and they still sorta are in my head.
I mean even a frigate, how I magine them anyway, are relatively big ships that normally has several crew members...cruisers are even bigger..and battlecruisers..I mean...Homeworld battlecruisers..need I say more?
Then theres battleships..leviathans of the battlefield. The ship that I'd normally crap my pants over seeing coming towards me...and I STILL sorta get a "O___O Z0MG IT R COMING RITE FOR MEH!" feeling from them.
Now, I fly my own carrier (archon) and it's massive imho..just simply..massive.
But hey, thats just how I see it.
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CyberKn1ght
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Posted - 2006.12.21 22:41:00 -
[274]
sad really.....
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/8854/sadul2.jpg
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Jain Za
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:43:00 -
[275]
I feel that the problem lies in the fact that the devs don't relate to this problem, they are'nt the ones having to spend over 3100+ hours skilling for this ship. They load it in seconds and have no appreciation for the dedication it has taken pilots that own them.
They do not spend months:
1. skilling for it
2. raising the ISK for it
3. searching for forum posts of it
4. searching for (disappointing) pictures of it
5. dreaming about it
6. waiting for it
Hence we have a situation where so many pilots, after spending so many hours waiting, dreaming, waiting, ratting and waiting some more - are feeling let down by CCP when they undock to find the Chimera is the size of a Badger 2.
CCP, realise this is a CAPITAL vessel and its the size of a hauler. Everyone, no matter what race agrees it needs fixing; we know you know , we know you know we know and we know you know everyone knows.
So please...
THROW US A FRIKKIN BONE ERE
ps. wub you.
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2006.12.22 21:48:00 -
[276]
Edited by: Tony Unrau on 22/12/2006 21:51:02
Well I think we could get this up to 12 pages by 2007!
Let's do it boyz
fiiiiiiiiiiiixxxxx cccccchiiimmmmmeeeerrrrraaaaaaa
Actually whats funny is to this day they havent answered my petition, yet when I had a problem with gates dissapearing and made a petition for that I had answers from 4 GM's within a couple hours.
We all know they saw my petition but none of them want to respond =P
I decided to get rid of the petition as in almost a month nobody had answered. sad really
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.22 23:13:00 -
[277]
Edited by: Ishina Fel on 22/12/2006 23:13:57
http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp Listed in the known issues. Not a fix, granted, but some graphics guy has a note about it buried on his desk somewhere. Better than nothing.
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Luna Nilaya
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Posted - 2006.12.23 03:20:00 -
[278]
Originally by: F2C MaDMaXX
Now, i might be wrong, but is there a chance that the center point "bug" is actually causing the smallness? (as a work around?)
I believe that the Chimera is for some reason scaled down from its original size but it's bounding box is still the same size.
That would explain why the center of the ship is off.
But what I can't understand is that how they managed to not notice(or not care)it, since it's clearly visible problem.
CCP should hire me, I would gladly fix this kind of stuff, free of charge.
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Garonis
Caldari
Templars of Space
CORE.
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Posted - 2006.12.23 03:48:00 -
[279]
Actually, by definition, any ship CRUISER sized and above ARE capital ships.
Just had to throw that out there, simply because i think the term "capital ship" as it's used in EvE is misleading.
maybe i should just take the other pill ^^
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Frug
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.23 05:26:00 -
[280]
Signed. That's just silly. Why would a carrier be so small?
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Pinpisa Jormao
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Posted - 2006.12.23 08:09:00 -
[281]
Agreed.
Take the biggest amount of biggest unpackaged ships that you can fit into the carrier. This gives a measure of the minimum size for the carrier.
All of the carriers need to be maybe tripled in size.
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Hatuk
Minmatar
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:45:00 -
[282]
/signed
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Disteeler
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Posted - 2006.12.26 11:56:00 -
[283]
Ok ok I've been reading this thread for some weeks but never seen any of the caldari carriers...until yesterday I was right next a chimaera in my scorpion...c'mon, is this a joke?, it's ridicously little!! i mean, there are lots of BS bigger that it!! carriers should be fearsome big ships!!
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.27 09:20:00 -
[284]
We'll were at 8 months now. 4 more and it will be a full year without so much as a reply let alone a fix. Amazing.
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Jesloy
Caldari
Free Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:32:00 -
[285]
I agree, make the Chimera bigger. And this should be done soon, not soonÖ.
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DaveJ777
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:14:00 -
[286]
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 27/12/2006 13:14:45
Save The Chimera
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:37:00 -
[287]
agreed, the carrier is too small..
some say: Size doesnt matter
well: size DOES matter
im flying an Phoenix and its clearly bigger as carrier
but the carrier is having an 100k m3 drone bay and cargo is large too.. so it makes no much sence..
admins, please make it somewhat larger =)) make eve happy once again =D
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Xenomorphea
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.27 16:35:00 -
[288]
I totally agree about the Chimera size: it is quite embarrasingly small.
And as somebody pointed out, Carriers (and some freighter ships) should be WAY larger to accomodate the amount of stuff they can actually ... carry. Keeping things in scale helps making the game more realistic and beliveable :-)
Talkin about scale, there are some Minmatar bases with a really tiny undock tunnel - some ships are actually larger than the tunnel itself. And the base itself is so small, that it could not possibly store more than a couple of ships, let alone hundreds ...
Cheers, Xeno
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Lightof God
Caldari
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.27 18:26:00 -
[289]
hi as someone currently skilling in the carrier direction i would love to say one thing.
fix the freaking carrier size PLEASEEEEEEEE.
thatnk you for your time.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:48:00 -
[290]
Originally by: DaveJ777
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 27/12/2006 13:14:45
Save The Chimera
Nicely done Dave ...m'kay, now back to crying my little eyes out cause my ship is a gimp
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Sovarin
Caldari
Species 5618
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.28 11:59:00 -
[291]
Originally by: DaveJ777
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 28/12/2006 10:06:51
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 27/12/2006 13:14:45
Save The Chimera
Edit: image updated!
Still not working in IGB. No explanation.
Nice One Dave
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Manfred Doomhammer
Caldari
ShadowTec Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.29 12:45:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Sovarin
Originally by: DaveJ777
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 28/12/2006 10:06:51
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 27/12/2006 13:14:45
Save The Chimera
Edit: image updated!
Still not working in IGB. No explanation.
Nice One Dave
nice one.. really shows the crux of the problem... hell , id LOVE the chimera this size.. if it keeps its stats and gets additional jump gate capability
however, as it is now, its just ridiculous.... CCP WAKE UP AND FIX THAT..
man... that many month and they didnt even recognize the problem
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:08:00 -
[293]
Savethechimera.com is going in my sig. Please fix it, CCP.
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Ulviirala Vauryndar
Cohortes Stellaris
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2006.12.30 03:39:00 -
[294]
Or maybe just reduce drone bay and cargohold capacity, remove the corporate hangar and ship maintenance bay, place cpu/pg between Ferox and Raven? So no model changes would be required. Thats it! Hey, what are these yellow flashing squares all around your ship icons? o_O
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.30 09:14:00 -
[295]
Originally by: DaveJ777
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 28/12/2006 10:06:51
Edited by: DaveJ777 on 27/12/2006 13:14:45
Save The Chimera
Edit: image updated!
Still not working in IGB. No explanation.
Right on, definetly need to make myself a sig version of that.
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Avok
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.30 18:05:00 -
[296]
Fix it please... Soon will have my own chimera !!!
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:26:00 -
[297]
Breaking news.. this has just been confirmed ....
SIZE DOES MATTER
Source: the girlfriend
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Bannedkiller
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Posted - 2007.01.04 02:09:00 -
[298]
So why arent any devs responding to a what 10 page thread that is begging for some dev attention? I mean they must have noticed that this thread is here right?
or... they dont pay enough attention to the game development forum as a whole who knows..
maybes this needs to be moved on over to general discussion
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Engle
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.04 02:20:00 -
[299]
or maybe you should bring it up in the irc channel #eve-chaos and see what the BH's and other staff there know about it.
but i agree the chimera makes me giggle like a girl when i undock and dawf it in a BS
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2007.01.04 05:02:00 -
[300]
Makes me sob like a ten year old French school girl who skinned her knee.
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.01.05 16:46:00 -
[301]
Yet again i figured the plot.... my dear eve'ian pilots...have you ya all noticed the amount of "stickies" on the front page.. they're trying to push our thread out
Let the rebelion begin!!!
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Ulviirala Vauryndar
Cohortes Stellaris
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.01.06 08:04:00 -
[302]
lmao :) A new conspiracy uncovered! Do you actually notice conspiracy there? Yarr!
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2007.01.07 03:07:00 -
[303]
Well well well.....might as well put up a new sig.
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Bannedkiller
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Posted - 2007.01.07 17:15:00 -
[304]
lolz great sig fuujin
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Manfred Doomhammer
Caldari
ShadowTec Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:54:00 -
[305]
people shouldnt have just asked the devs about htis on the fanfest... they should have threatened oveur to replace his beer bottles with the new, improved "chimera design" beerbottles... same price, one quater the size..
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CEO ShadowTec Inc.
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Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:38:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Fuujin
Well well well.....might as well put up a new sig.
Might want to put some brief text in there with an arrow pointing to the Chimera saying "not a Rokh btw..."
This would prevent confusion and at the same time make the sig eve funnier.
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Creator of The Correct Dread(tm) sig |
Mr Xzomo
StarLight Inc.
Prismatic Refraction
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:58:00 -
[307]
Signed !
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DrLogan
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.01.08 00:55:00 -
[308]
signed (again)
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D'an Y'eal
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.08 02:15:00 -
[309]
signed and shameless bump, this issue is shameful and teh suchks
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Angelica Hellsing
Caldari
Tears of Redemption
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.08 03:08:00 -
[310]
/signed!!!!!!
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Frater Perdurabo
Amarr
The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
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Posted - 2007.01.08 03:48:00 -
[311]
Aha! mine (machariel) is still much bigger than yours (chimera)
...and omg, this issue is getting close to a year old and its still not fixed.
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Beowulf Scheafer
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.08 11:49:00 -
[312]
do not let this get removed from page no.1 !!!
again (i think) /signed
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killmc
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Posted - 2007.01.08 16:10:00 -
[313]
signed now fix it some time this year i hope
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2007.01.08 16:55:00 -
[314]
yeah, close to a year and CCP still don't want to fix this shameful mistake.. pathetic actually..
.. we've hit a wall of friendly silence from the devs i guess
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2007.01.08 18:31:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Lucian Corvinus
yeah, close to a year and CCP still don't want to fix this shameful mistake.. pathetic actually..
.. we've hit a wall of friendly silence from the devs i guess
you should chek the "can we please have a icon that we are being warp scrambled icon" thingy topic
its very very old had some dev reply's yet there is no warp scramble indicator or wathever
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That ccp created a universe doesen't mean they'r gods
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zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:54:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Fuujin
Well well well.....might as well put up a new sig.
I love that signature
Character Portrait |
Xoria Krint
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.01.08 23:54:00 -
[317]
Hahaha, Tiny winy carrier.. *cuddle*
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.01.09 03:43:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Fuujin
Well well well.....might as well put up a new sig.
Must ....have...that ...signature
i'll even pay..
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Originally by: some nub ..aka recovering WoW person
What lvl can I start PvP ?
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Lea Re
Caldari
CAPITAL TRUST
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 05:20:00 -
[319]
signed
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2007.01.09 05:29:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Ilya Murametz
Originally by: Fuujin
Well well well.....might as well put up a new sig.
Must ....have...that ...signature
i'll even pay..
If you want to use it then by all means, can even link it directly from mine.
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Jain Za
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Posted - 2007.01.09 09:23:00 -
[321]
support the signature! :)
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2007.01.09 10:49:00 -
[322]
Originally by: The Wizz117
you should chek the "can we please have a icon that we are being warp scrambled icon" thingy topic
its very very old had some dev reply's yet there is no warp scramble indicator or wathever
Agreed.. would be nice for the devs actually keeping their promises... just like tux said we would get faction missiles like we have faction turret ammo..
Anyways those are features, I would love for the devs to fix the bugs abit faster than the features, especially one that have been in the game since the birth of carriers
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Solant
Minmatar
C A P S U L E
Edge of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.01.09 14:24:00 -
[323]
/signed.
This is ridiculous,...
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Boshart
Horizon.Inc
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.09 18:43:00 -
[324]
still not fixed ..damm
Horizon Inc.
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Kala Veijo
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 19:02:00 -
[325]
/Signed thought i dont fly capitals.
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zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:00:00 -
[326]
Edited by: zeeZ Exus on 09/01/2007 20:59:06
Look, I found the TriExporter thread
Actual carrier models
"Docking" - It almost perfectly fits in there (Hel)
Edit: I don't think it was meant to be a carrier at all...
Character Portrait |
zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:00:00 -
[327]
Edited by: zeeZ Exus on 09/01/2007 20:59:06
Look, I found the TriExporter thread
Actual carrier models
"Docking" - It almost perfectly fits in there (Hel)
Edit: I don't think it was meant to be a carrier at all...
Character Portrait |
zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:00:00 -
[328]
Edited by: zeeZ Exus on 09/01/2007 20:59:06
Look, I found the TriExporter thread
Actual carrier models
"Docking" - It almost perfectly fits in there (Hel)
Edit: I don't think it was meant to be a carrier at all...
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Hikaru Sulu
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:24:00 -
[329]
This is ridiculous that the devs haven't commented on this yet. It is downright insulting for them to leave this issue for so long and not even say SOMETHING about it. I would settle for "all youz guys shut it, its that way and its not changing and thats final". At least we would know what the hell is going on. Long live the carrier thread!
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Hikaru Sulu
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:24:00 -
[330]
This is ridiculous that the devs haven't commented on this yet. It is downright insulting for them to leave this issue for so long and not even say SOMETHING about it. I would settle for "all youz guys shut it, its that way and its not changing and thats final". At least we would know what the hell is going on. Long live the carrier thread!
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W0LFMAN
Caldari
Caldar Mercenary Syndicate
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:03:00 -
[331]
Signed
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:40:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Manfred Doomhammer
People shouldn't have just asked the devs about this on the fanfest... they should have threatened to replace his beer bottles with the new, improved "chimera design" beer bottles... same price, one quarter the size..
ROFL I love it..
You hit the pin on the head though... just think, if there were some glitch in the system where they lost 1 dollar a month from each subscriber they would jump all over that and have it fixed within secconds...
I guess the only solution is to start a thread about this in general chat with a link to this thread, obviously a Admin will put it back into here but hey! at least ONE Admin will have at least seen the thread.
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Krxon Blade
Caldari
Apogee Group
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:52:00 -
[333]
Soon or latter I'll train for caldari carier so I'm
Signing!
Maybe it will be sorted till then :)
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Elvarien
Caldari
The Night's Watch
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:01:00 -
[334]
/signed
Epeen is everything in eve >;D
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2007.01.10 15:54:00 -
[335]
OMG..
This tread almost went to page 2.. concentrate people.. it must stay on page 1
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.11 03:28:00 -
[336]
the bugged centerpoint is in the known issues now. as for the size, well the description of the ship describes it as being an old water freighter, so its just a jumbo hauler from yesteryear :P
if they make it bigger thats cool, but the main thing is fix the centerpoint - which is a known issues etc etc.
let the thread die, it has served its purpose.
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Takaharu Tsuyoshi
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Posted - 2007.01.11 03:33:00 -
[337]
Far from it.
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Abathur
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Posted - 2007.01.11 11:33:00 -
[338]
Yes, we are aware of this. There are two problems here:
1.) The 'size' of certain capital ships. There is a graphics 'renovation' project in the works that should address many outstanding issues of this nature. Obviously the Chimera has suffered the most from this and will be adjusted.
2.) The 'center point' bug is something that's being look at in detail. One example is that Mothership pilots are running into problems with fighters sitting on top of their ships but not being in docking range.
The dedication and tenacity of everyone in this thread is to be admired but the problem is not as easily fixed as it might seem. It will happen 'soon' though.
"Tux did it!" |
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2007.01.11 11:40:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Abathur
Info
I guess however that you guys don't have a time frame for either bugs except 'soon'?
Is it first expected in the major graphic update in kali 3 or can we expect it before that?
thx abathur for the update, much appreciated
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make the caldari e-peen worth showing!!
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Abathur
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Posted - 2007.01.11 11:52:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Lucian Corvinus
I guess however that you guys don't have a time frame for either bugs except 'soon'?
Is it first expected in the major graphic update in kali 3 or can we expect it before that?
thx abathur for the update, much appreciated
I am pretty sure that this update would hit sometime in the next few months, so you'll likely see it before Kali2 hits. Some of the other Devs (not me OFC) fly Chimeras as well and are just as annoyed by it as anyone.
And you're welcome. This thread deserved a little love. 
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MrTriggerHappy
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.11 12:27:00 -
[341]
[Joking]
Heh as for compensation can you redesign it with citadel launchers on it for our months of suffering and a bigger fighter bay!!!
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Abathur
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Posted - 2007.01.11 13:18:00 -
[342]
Originally by: MrTriggerHappy
[Joking]
Heh as for compensation can you redesign it with citadel launchers on it for our months of suffering and a bigger fighter bay!!!
Someone is watching too much Battlestar Galactica...
"Tux did it!" |
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MrTriggerHappy
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.11 14:21:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Abathur
Originally by: MrTriggerHappy
[Joking]
Heh as for compensation can you redesign it with citadel launchers on it for our months of suffering and a bigger fighter bay!!!
Someone is watching too much Battlestar Galactica...
I wish...
My Comments in no way reflect my corp or alliance |
Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.01.11 16:40:00 -
[344]
oH mY lOrdY we got a responEEE ..
....well sorta
You gotta be ****ting me... |
outlaw1968
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Posted - 2007.01.11 18:58:00 -
[345]
whoohoo cant wait for the fix
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Zae'dra Xanthe
Fist of the Goat
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Posted - 2007.01.11 19:38:00 -
[346]
My faith in CCP has been restored. Thank you very much for the response.
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Hippo117
Caldari
Wings of Redemption
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Posted - 2007.01.11 19:39:00 -
[347]
Originally by: Abathur
<stuff>
\o/
Abathur gets my soul
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Jain Za
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Posted - 2007.01.11 20:41:00 -
[348]
*overwhelmed with emotion*
*whimper*
thank you.
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Bannedkiller
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.11 20:57:00 -
[349]
finally a response!!!!
i luv u Abathur
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.11 23:30:00 -
[350]
"I am pretty sure that this update would hit sometime in the next few months, so you'll likely see it before Kali2 hits. Some of the other Devs (not me OFC) fly Chimeras as well and are just as annoyed by it as anyone."
Just to clarify, since Oveur said the graphics update will be part of Kali 3... does it mean the current Chimera model will be fixed as well, or will it be only her graphics upgrade model that's going to be fixed... which would push that fix back to Kali 3 release? ^^;;
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.11 23:51:00 -
[351]
Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 11/01/2007 23:48:14
Originally by: Abathur
(...)
1.) The 'size' of certain capital ships. There is a graphics 'renovation' project in the works that should address many outstanding issues of this nature. Obviously the Chimera has suffered the most from this and will be adjusted.
(...)
In the mentioned "renovation", do you consider the fact, that all Dreads are larger in "size" than the motherships (except the Amarr one) and they can dock at stations? Or you talking only about the model-aspects of ships and not real "size"?
Sure, this docking issue is a decision upon game "balance" or whatever, but taking the "size" of the ships as explanation for not being able to dock seems quite odd, if you look at this picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Eve_chart.jpg (but I don't really know if the proportions on that pic are 100% correct)...
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2007.01.12 00:55:00 -
[352]
Originally by: Imhothar Xarodit
\http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Eve_chart.jpg (but I don't really know if the proportions on that pic are 100% correct)...
I think that's how big the chimera is 'supposed' to be. Its close to the same size on the chart. In the game its a different story.
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Bannedkiller
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.12 03:09:00 -
[353]
nope the chimera in that picture is to scale. As u can see the apoc, and many other ships in that same picture are much larger
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Fuujin
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2007.01.12 05:59:00 -
[354]
I'm happy i can take down my sig now :)
a pitcher of beer to you, on me, at the next fanfest :)
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Ricky1989
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2007.01.12 11:50:00 -
[355]
Thanks for the reply, member of the dev team!
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DaveJ777
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:25:00 -
[356]
Originally by: Abathur
2.) The 'center point' bug is something that's being look at in detail.
There is little to look at.
If you extract the model, the issue becomes very clear. The model is simply not centered, and this can be corrected in 5 seconds. An Apoc is shown next to it (to scale) for comparison.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2007.01.12 18:45:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Bannedkiller
nope the chimera in that picture is to scale. As u can see the apoc, and many other ships in that same picture are much larger
hah you're right! I was looking at the pheonix.
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:16:00 -
[358]
Thank you soooo much for the response Abathur!!
To know it's at least "being worked on" is a very good feeling and my thoughts of CCP are much better.
Not to mention on mmorpg.com I voted all A+ for it, so this response makes me feel alot better about my voting ways.
Hell just having a response is great!
Thanks again,
Tony
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Hikaru Sulu
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Posted - 2007.01.13 22:58:00 -
[359]
/me cries tears of golden joy . I felt a disturbance in the force, now i know why. DEV RESPONSE FTW!
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Laserotaku
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
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Posted - 2007.01.14 17:45:00 -
[360]
when theres new model i hope image would be posted
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.14 23:23:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Abathur
Yes, we are aware of this. There are two problems here:
1.) The 'size' of certain capital ships. There is a graphics 'renovation' project in the works that should address many outstanding issues of this nature. Obviously the Chimera has suffered the most from this and will be adjusted.
Have you had a look at motherships too? If not, please tell me if you see anything wrong this picture.
I wanted to line up a titan as comparison but due circumstances (me not having one ) that proved difficult. From own experiences however I do think that titans have proper dimensions in relation to any of the other ships, except for the motherships and I wonder why. Motherships cost a little less than a third of a titan, but have the size of something worth a twentieth or so. They are so small you can hardly distinguish them from normal carriers and as you can see from the picture, the larger battleships nearly match the mothership in size. Not really the cherry on top of months of work.
Some more figures to ponder about:
Mass:
Nyx: 1,292,500 kg
Erebus: 1,762,500 kg
Volume:
Nyx: 58,200,000 m¦
Erebus: 145,500,000 m¦
Corporate Hangar Capacity
Nyx: 50,000 m¦
Erebus: 100,000 m¦
Ship Maintenance Bay:
Nyx: 2,500,000 m¦
Erebus: 5,000,000 m¦
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Shadowraven213
Caldari
Madison Industrial Co.
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:48:00 -
[362]
i can finally sleep at night now thank you DEV person
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Abathur
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Posted - 2007.01.15 08:18:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Originally by: Abathur
Yes, we are aware of this. There are two problems here:
1.) The 'size' of certain capital ships. There is a graphics 'renovation' project in the works that should address many outstanding issues of this nature. Obviously the Chimera has suffered the most from this and will be adjusted.
Have you had a look at motherships too?
Yes, and thank you for the pic / stats.
"Tux did it!" |
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Zhalakin
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 21:00:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Abathur
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Originally by: Abathur
Yes, we are aware of this. There are two problems here:
1.) The 'size' of certain capital ships. There is a graphics 'renovation' project in the works that should address many outstanding issues of this nature. Obviously the Chimera has suffered the most from this and will be adjusted.
Have you had a look at motherships too?
Yes, and thank you for the pic / stats.
How about the bumping of capital ships and getting stuck on drones and cans?
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Majin82
Caldari
g guild
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Posted - 2007.01.18 00:14:00 -
[365]
What about watching a Titan or Mothership bounch around from Missile hits.
Anyone find something wrong with the world when watching a titan the size of New York, shutter when hit by a Missile?
I can understand a BS jerking around when hit by CM, but not a Dred, Carrier, Mothership and FFS not a Titan!
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The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns!
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Tisanta
Amarr
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
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Posted - 2007.01.18 01:11:00 -
[366]
It's orgasmic.
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Harisdrop
Gallente
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.18 14:07:00 -
[367]
Why when you hold crtl + left right mouse buttons when your in a carrier the screen feels like your in the "Perfect storm" with 20' waves. My gosh man settle the screen down. I dont need it going back and forth soo much?
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2007.01.19 06:22:00 -
[368]
its anice looking ship, but my geddon is just as big ^_^
Originally by: subvert
Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson
I would not put a bounty on a washing machine, for instance.
if your washing machine was going around killing people you would
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Avok
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.23 11:58:00 -
[369]
thanks for your answer Abathur.
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Dread PirateRoberts
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Posted - 2007.01.23 21:07:00 -
[370]
Edited by: Dread PirateRoberts on 23/01/2007 21:05:25
Edited by: Dread PirateRoberts on 23/01/2007 21:03:53
Where the Caldari Carrier goes.... The pilots will remind the DEVs!!
Thanks for responding guys. I am giddy with joy at knowing my beloved Caldari Carrier will one day be a real mans ships and not be able to hide behind the battleships in front line fleet encounters.
A short life but a merry one,
PDR
Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning. |
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Chi Prime
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:18:00 -
[371]
My e-peen will grow in size?
Thank you
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.09 17:35:00 -
[372]
Yay! e-peen extension... Gotta say, it will be nice not to feal inferior to an apoc
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Midnight Meadows
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Posted - 2007.02.12 02:02:00 -
[373]
/signed!
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Dregann
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.15 15:49:00 -
[374]
/Signed
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Tony Unrau
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Posted - 2007.02.18 08:51:00 -
[375]
Any idea's yet on how soon we could expect the ship fixed?
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Rachen Mysuna
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
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Posted - 2007.02.18 16:28:00 -
[376]
lets have official response!
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.18 22:31:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Abathur
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
Have you had a look at motherships too?
Yes, and thank you for the pic / stats.
Does this include a "fix" to the reason of "not allowed to dock" though the Aeon is the only mothership bigger in "size" than all dreads?
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Rachen Mysuna
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
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Posted - 2007.02.19 02:42:00 -
[378]
lets keep bumping until we have an answer
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Boshart
Horizon.Inc
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.19 22:01:00 -
[379]
yeah and keep your sigs up
Horizon Inc.
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Edgars Sults
LFC
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.20 12:48:00 -
[380]
Edited by: Edgars Sults on 20/02/2007 12:45:42
omg, so they're actually going to fix the Chimera?
/me can't believe this
oh, wait, that dev reply is over a month old.
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2007.02.20 17:11:00 -
[381]
wait!
you mean: caldari aren't relly the only race who has a tech2 battleship?
damn! :(.
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FireWynd
Caldari
Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.02.27 16:14:00 -
[382]
Under the Known Issues for 1.3:
The Chimera's centerpoint is not at the models center. The model is also smaller than it should be
Thats good, before it was just the centerpoint, one small step ;) Now if they only can get moved from known issues to actual patch notes.
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Icome4u
IronPig
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 06:31:00 -
[383]
Originally by: FireWynd
Under the Known Issues for 1.3:
The Chimera's centerpoint is not at the models center. The model is also smaller than it should be
Thats good, before it was just the centerpoint, one small step ;) Now if they only can get moved from known issues to actual patch notes.
Would be the best thing over... id actualy stop being ashame of spending 2 billion isk on a Chimera +T2/Officer modules...
 "Hey nice battleship!"
"It's a carrier..."
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Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:49:00 -
[384]
So when is the Chimera center pointer and graphic getting fix? At least fix the bloody center point quick... This shouldn't take a year or even a month. Put some time aside and fix the center point of the chimera. I don't see any other ship with bugs as major as that...
Priority: Fixing a BROKEN ship (Chimera center point, new size comes after tbh)
NOT-priority: Walking on stations...
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Reeperman
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Posted - 2007.03.01 08:31:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Draco Ronan
Priority: Fixing a BROKEN ship (Chimera center point, new size comes after tbh)
NOT-priority: Walking on stations...
QFT. C'Mon CCP fix it already. Don't let it wait until the next graphics update or we will be still waiting in 2009.
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.01 10:36:00 -
[386]
let them do their job they got it in hand your epeen aint all that important and trust me having a small chimera is wicked, those big capitals get stuck on stuff all the time which causes client desyncs esp. after the latest patch.
fyi i fly chimera and phoenix so i know what i'm talking about
ssshh now, drink water, go to sleep
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 05:04:00 -
[387]
ok ok, who left the chimera in the dryer too long...
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.02 07:10:00 -
[388]
If this is slated for fix with the next major graphics update were doomed! lol
Though what was said is true... as chimera pilots we do have a unfair advantage of being small, less noticeable and bump into stations less.
PVP it's great to be smaller and less noticeable, you become less of a primary.
Believe me though, I really do want this fixed as the chimera just looks pitiful.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.03 12:05:00 -
[389]
Oh dear....
I just stepped in mt shiny new Chimera today and what a mess...
1. It's the size of BS
2. It's center point is at the back
3. The shield FX spread out like 10km from back of ship
To give CCP credit here it's actually a dam nice model, very bling. It's like someone forgot to inflate it though.
WTB : Captial class foot pump
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Theladder
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Posted - 2007.03.05 01:08:00 -
[390]
Just got mine Chimera and /signed!
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Icome4u
IronPig
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 03:54:00 -
[391]
Edited by: Icome4u on 06/03/2007 03:50:49
I'll sign AGAIN
Oh and let us zoom on fighters like we were able too. 20 million isk fighters should have a better zoom in view tbh...
We can see frigs can't we... So its about time you guys (CCP) fix carriers.... so yeah
Fix the Chimera
Fix Fighters not retourning etc
Fix the zoom view on fighters
And thats now... not in 1 year
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Prydeless
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 21:06:00 -
[392]
I dont know if its a graphic bug or what but my chimera is bigger than my friends chimera. Oh wait its because I am a god. Anyways fix the chimera!
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Icome4u
IronPig
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.03.08 01:56:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Prydeless
I dont know if its a graphic bug or what but my chimera is bigger than my friends chimera. Oh wait its because I am a god. Anyways fix the chimera!
Can God fix the Chimera then?
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Prydeless
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.08 21:55:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Icome4u
Originally by: Prydeless
I dont know if its a graphic bug or what but my chimera is bigger than my friends chimera. Oh wait its because I am a god. Anyways fix the chimera!
Can God fix the Chimera then?
I actually never thought about that, I will get back to you on the matter
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Hakim Dendar
Caldari
Tarlee Acquisition Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.09 11:30:00 -
[395]
Fix, fix, fix! It really is ridiculously small...
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Edgars Sults
LFC
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.10 02:23:00 -
[396]
Please fix it.
Pretty please.
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Icome4u
IronPig
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.03.10 03:52:00 -
[397]
Talked to a DEV on SISI... he told me he has no idea when it's going to be fix... sad... Please Fix it soon... after +1 year this MAJOR bug shouldn't still be here... heck it should have been fix with the latest big patch... skipping work heh CCP?
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CCP Abathur
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Posted - 2007.03.10 07:17:00 -
[398]
Edited by: CCP Abathur on 10/03/2007 07:14:40
UPDATE
The issue is not just the Chimera. Once again, the problems here are both with the overall 'size' of the ships and the placing of the center point. There are several ships in EVE that are in serious need of re-scaling. The Chimera just happens to be one of the more outstanding examples.
The problem is even more pronounced with motherships. Take a look at some of the Tier 3 battleships next to the Hel or the Nyx - how exactly are you supposed to fit two of those ships inside a ship barely 1/3 larger on the screen?
These are the questions I am asking myself and this has become one of my pet projects. I had hoped to see this changed by now, but it looks like it will be done when the big graphics update happens.
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Rachen Mysuna
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Quantum Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.10 09:15:00 -
[399]
Originally by: CCP Abathur
Edited by: CCP Abathur on 10/03/2007 07:14:40
UPDATE
The issue is not just the Chimera. Once again, the problems here are both with the overall 'size' of the ships and the placing of the center point. There are several ships in EVE that are in serious need of re-scaling. The Chimera just happens to be one of the more outstanding examples.
The problem is even more pronounced with motherships. Take a look at some of the Tier 3 battleships next to the Hel or the Nyx - how exactly are you supposed to fit two of those ships inside a ship barely 1/3 larger on the screen?
These are the questions I am asking myself and this has become one of my pet projects. I had hoped to see this changed by now, but it looks like it will be done when the big graphics update happens.
throw us a bone
1month? 2months? 3 moths!!! yay moths
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.10 23:26:00 -
[400]
Originally by: CCP Abathur
These are the questions I am asking myself and this has become one of my pet projects. I had hoped to see this changed by now, but it looks like it will be done when the big graphics update happens.
Would you please throw us a bone indeed please. I know from a source that CCP has been leaking pictures of the remodelled Nyx for instance to the press. Please feed the mob too
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qvacky
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 02:33:00 -
[401]
Originally by: CCP Abathur
Edited by: CCP Abathur on 10/03/2007 07:14:40
UPDATE
The issue is not just the Chimera. Once again, the problems here are both with the overall 'size' of the ships and the placing of the center point. There are several ships in EVE that are in serious need of re-scaling. The Chimera just happens to be one of the more outstanding examples.
The problem is even more pronounced with motherships. Take a look at some of the Tier 3 battleships next to the Hel or the Nyx - how exactly are you supposed to fit two of those ships inside a ship barely 1/3 larger on the screen?
These are the questions I am asking myself and this has become one of my pet projects. I had hoped to see this changed by now, but it looks like it will be done when the big graphics update happens.
Hooray! Its nice to know its being looked at. Only took 12 months to get a reply too. :)
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:27:00 -
[402]
Edited by: Grainsalt on 12/03/2007 09:33:59
Roll on 2008 / (2009?)
To Quote Ovour
"The graphics engine upgrades, the DirectX 9 one, are not in Revelations 2 at this point. There might be some elements, for the benefit of Speed, but it's not the full upgrade, It's scheduled for Revelations 3. " .. So like I say.. 2008.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=426
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Edgars Sults
LFC
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:10:00 -
[403]
I somehow have the feeling that they will forget to fix it even in the new graphics upgrade.
So after we get that, it's one more year until someone realises that it wasn't fixed then.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:28:00 -
[404]
Generally it seems to me that battleships (and to some extend battlecruisers) are plain out too big - at least when you compare them vs stations. A dominix undocking from certain minmatar stations can look rather silly.
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Vidar Kentoran
Minmatar
Provenance.
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Posted - 2007.03.15 05:42:00 -
[405]
I can't believe there's a 14 page thread about this, and not about the fact that this ship only has 7% more cpu than a Thanatos, but the Thanatos has 55% more powergrid. Fitting a proper shield tank on a Chimera is an insanely difficult trial.
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zoltar pdp
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:20:00 -
[406]
bump!
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2007.03.17 12:06:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Vidar Kentoran
I can't believe there's a 14 page thread about this, and not about the fact that this ship only has 7% more cpu than a Thanatos, but the Thanatos has 55% more powergrid. Fitting a proper shield tank on a Chimera is an insanely difficult trial.
I cant believe there is a 14 page about this and the nigg is still a piece off crap in bonus.
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Kaledon Brown
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Posted - 2007.03.17 16:52:00 -
[408]
/signed get to work
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JohnyGee
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Posted - 2007.03.18 15:35:00 -
[409]
signed.
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Bannedkiller
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.19 00:08:00 -
[410]
I would like to hear from a dev why this is such a difficut bug to fix
as they have been aware of it for many months. Its ridiculous that such an obvious visual error be completely ignored for such a long period of time. |
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2007.03.19 03:09:00 -
[411]
you could ralte it to RL..
the caldari carrier is like the little puny kid in the school yard.. but is also a black belt and kicks anyones ass that comes near him.
The minny carrier is made from old tin cans and gaffa tape
Gallante desiners saw star wars, and modeled thier ship afer the millenium falcon
And amarr are reall trying to compensate for something
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Demarcus
Project Gemini
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:17:00 -
[412]
While your at it fix the Caldari BSs as well they are all very very undersized. And whats up with the Abaddon, was that like the second option for you guys when you designed the Amarr dread? The thing is huge, it makes Ron Jeremy cry.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:28:00 -
[413]
Well from what ive heard, and now in this thread, most caldari ships seem to be undersized (comparing carriers to each other, BS, ferox - Raven for example too.
But oh well - ROLE ON VISTA!
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.23 05:59:00 -
[414]
Strange to see this post make it to the 5th page! zzz
Any new updates yet CCP?
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Constituo
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.23 16:23:00 -
[415]
Please fix it soon!
No point of training for that small carrier. it doesn't look like one!
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.01 00:05:00 -
[416]
Edited by: Grainsalt on 01/04/2007 00:03:17
From hammerhead:
"Kali 3.0 should be out before the end of the year and the graphics upgrade should be early 2008."
http://mmog.onlinewelten.com/interviews,id1756,4,tech_iii_schiffe_rev_20_alles_ueber_nahe_ferne_zukunft_eve.html
As we have confirmation the Chimera will not be fixed until the GFX update... (See post 396 above from CCP Member)
Pucker up boys, you are flying a battleship sized Carrier for the next year.. No remedial fix, no hope, just a bug that cannot be fixed for 1 1/2 years... NICE!
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Gorgons
Caldari
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2007.04.01 15:28:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Grainsalt
Pucker up boys, you are flying a battleship sized Carrier for the next year.. No remedial fix, no hope, just a bug that cannot be fixed for 1 1/2 years... NICE!
Awww, CRAP!
but unfortunately expected
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It says Snippy.
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.02 04:36:00 -
[418]
ROFL imagine this in any other MMORPG... lets say a medieval game, where the orc is as small as a dwarf. It would completely negate from the realism value of the game and probably would be downcast by every reviewer out there.
Im really not sure how they can just let this one bug.. that is bugging the community 14 pages worth, slide for another 1 1/2 YEARS!! lol
Again and again I see for MMORPG companies it is not whats most important for the customers but more important on their own personal goals.
All I can think is... Typical.
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Arron S
Gallente
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.04.02 05:08:00 -
[419]
FIX FIX FIX IT NOW!!!!1!!!!
Do I have to post links to basic maya modeling, on how to resize objects?
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Cataclysmic Rogue
Minmatar
Federation of Builders Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.03 14:24:00 -
[420]
OMG JUST FIX IT ALREADY
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.03 19:35:00 -
[421]
u guys are all idiots
instead of asking to make the ship look bigger, u better all would have asked to reduce sig radius so the chimaira has the same radius like a bs
Originally by: Merkanas
To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Elain Reverse
Caldari
Shokei
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Posted - 2007.04.03 21:46:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Speed Devil
u guys are all idiots
instead of asking to make the ship look bigger, u better all would have asked to reduce sig radius so the chimaira has the same radius like a bs
Why so ? I like big signature, my BC have much bigger sig then BS
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Fuujin
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.04 05:58:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Grainsalt
Edited by: Grainsalt on 01/04/2007 00:03:17
From hammerhead:
"Kali 3.0 should be out before the end of the year and the graphics upgrade should be early 2008."
http://mmog.onlinewelten.com/interviews,id1756,4,tech_iii_schiffe_rev_20_alles_ueber_nahe_ferne_zukunft_eve.html
As we have confirmation the Chimera will not be fixed until the GFX update... (See post 396 above from CCP Member)
Pucker up boys, you are flying a battleship sized Carrier for the next year.. No remedial fix, no hope, just a bug that cannot be fixed for 1 1/2 years... NICE!
Much longer than the next year, I can't recall a time CCP has ever been on time in their projected schedule.
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Tiberius XI
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Posted - 2007.04.05 14:34:00 -
[424]
is it really that hard to fix ???
Im not good at programming, but if you can make 35k players play on the same netword cant you make 1 ship bigger?
seems strange to me
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Dariush Evander
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Posted - 2007.04.06 00:16:00 -
[425]
/signed
cap sizes are broken thats all
MS should be like 2 times more big then a dread.
Carrier should have the same size as dread.
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Abar
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.04.06 00:30:00 -
[426]
/signed |
Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.04.06 17:52:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Dariush Evander
/signed
cap sizes are broken thats all
MS should be like 2 times more big then a dread.
Carrier should have the same size as dread.
or something like that
this isnt on that topic tho...this is about the bugged size of the caldari carrier.
Its bugged, even compared to the other broken sizes of the carriers.
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ErazorHead
FrenchWing's War Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.07 12:44:00 -
[428]
Im so disapointed after reading this...
I can understand the frustration of capital pilots, I mean months of training to fly such 'supposed' behemoths and the 1st time you undock next to a Malestrom or an Hyperion must be quiet shocking lol...
I really thought dreads and carriers, hell even Titans and Moms were at least 10 times bigger than the ridiculous actual size.
1st time I saw a video of a Titan about a year ago from SiSi for some reason, maybe it was the bas quality and the small size of it, but I estimated the Leviathan's size being approximatively 150km long, so 1.5x the size of a caldari station and I was like "woah...!"
In my opinion the right size of capitals should be around this:
Titans: 120km long
Mom's: 50km long
dreads & carriers: 15km long
give or take 20% for racial purposes, but let these ships be CAPITALS and SUPER CAPITALS ships when it comes to Size, not Villages or even Block sized (hello chimera?)
After analizing one of the "F-T battle" screenshots where the UI was hidden and you could see dozens of cap ships, I came to the conclusion that caldari capitals must sux big times for being non existant in the biggest capital fights ever... ok now I understand why, I needed a magnifier to be able see them
Fix This CCP pretty please.
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.08 06:23:00 -
[429]
/signed
/me wonders how many times I have signed this thing lol
Update: Fix expected "Within the next 1 1/2 to 2 years" |
Carpet3
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.08 16:39:00 -
[430]
/signed
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.09 14:37:00 -
[431]
signed, because my rokh is the same size
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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DaveJ777
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Posted - 2007.04.10 14:05:00 -
[432]
Chimera still not saved? Back to WoW! :(
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.11 12:02:00 -
[433]
I know it is scheduled to be fixed some point in 2008, but just a remedial fix would be nice. Just to tide us over for the next 12 months.
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Space Hog
NEW DAWN CO
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2007.04.11 17:37:00 -
[434]
I am gona throw my 2 Cents here too. Please make my carrier at least the size it should be :) This thread is on target it needs to be adjusted in size.
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.11 18:25:00 -
[435]
Originally by: DaveJ777
Chimera still not saved? Back to WoW! :(
Can i have your chimera?
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Boshart
Horizon.Inc
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.12 08:30:00 -
[436]
this topic is even bigger then the chimera
Horizon Inc.
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Ricky1989
Caldari
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.12 19:20:00 -
[437]
CCP please fix, I love this ship.
/signed
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Tal'dara Ivec
Gallente
Odessa Operations
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.13 03:22:00 -
[438]
Almost positive this means nothing but what the hell...
/signed
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NightmareX
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.13 07:02:00 -
[439]
Edited by: NightmareX on 13/04/2007 06:59:12
Kinda fun to look at a Chimera when i'm in my Machariel
The Chimera should have been fixed long time ago, but i guess it will be fixed in the new graphic engine.
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.13 08:29:00 -
[440]
Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 13/04/2007 06:59:12
Kinda fun to look at a Chimera when i'm in my Machariel
The Chimera should have been fixed long time ago, but i guess it will be fixed in the new graphic engine.
Hmm, yes but thats a year away nearly (ok, a little less).. Not exactly a rapid response as they were released 1 1/2 years ago nearly...
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.15 23:26:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Grainsalt
Originally by: NightmareX
Edited by: NightmareX on 13/04/2007 06:59:12
Kinda fun to look at a Chimera when i'm in my Machariel
The Chimera should have been fixed long time ago, but i guess it will be fixed in the new graphic engine.
Hmm, yes but thats a year away nearly (ok, a little less).. Not exactly a rapid response as they were released 1 1/2 years ago nearly...
Hmm, interesting as this post is 1 year old. So we went 1/2 a year without voicing our opinion on this embarrassment.
I am appreciative that the problem will be fixed but if 1.5 years ago we were told it would be fixed in approx 3 years from that date everyone would laugh.
Im embarrassed that I even considered the chimera and have spent all this time training for it but there is no turning back now. Caldari BS5 in 5 Day's =/ whooptidoo
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2007.04.16 03:06:00 -
[442]
They should boost all capship sizes greatly, starting with the Chimera ...
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XaphanX jones
Caldari
Terran Robotics
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Posted - 2007.04.19 21:35:00 -
[443]
any updates on this guys ??
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Ricky1989
Caldari
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2007.04.19 22:50:00 -
[444]
Edited by: Ricky1989 on 19/04/2007 22:48:08
Guys... I think it might have been fixed, the chimera used to be on the known issues on the patch notes. Saying the center point is not at the models center and the model is smaller than supposed to be, well now it only mentions the centre point.
Have CCP fixed this or giving us no hope of a fix?
*edit for typo of Center
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.20 04:45:00 -
[445]
As far as I know, it has not been fixed yet.
The reason I know this is because I went onto test server a couple day's ago, and actually asked a chimera pilot if I could compare my raven to his chimera... it sadly was still the same old puny size.
Update: Fix expected "Within the next 1 1/2 to 2 years" |
Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.20 13:43:00 -
[446]
Originally by: Ricky1989
Edited by: Ricky1989 on 19/04/2007 22:48:08
Guys... I think it might have been fixed, the chimera used to be on the known issues on the patch notes. Saying the center point is not at the models center and the model is smaller than supposed to be, well now it only mentions the centre point.
Have CCP fixed this or giving us no hope of a fix?
*edit for typo of Center
It is still solid as a Rokh.. Not yet fixed.
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Ricky1989
Caldari
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2007.04.20 14:22:00 -
[447]
Originally by: Grainsalt
Originally by: Ricky1989
Edited by: Ricky1989 on 19/04/2007 22:48:08
Guys... I think it might have been fixed, the chimera used to be on the known issues on the patch notes. Saying the center point is not at the models center and the model is smaller than supposed to be, well now it only mentions the centre point.
Have CCP fixed this or giving us no hope of a fix?
*edit for typo of Center
It is still solid as a Rokh.. Not yet fixed.
Could it be that they have fixed it but not deployed it to any of the servers?
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:48:00 -
[448]
Edited by: garoute on 20/04/2007 17:44:47
The Secret Recipe! It could fix the chimera carrier issue in 15 minutes!
1 - Check out chimera.3ds model from source control solution
2 - Load Model, center it and apply x2 ratio on every axis.
3 - Render, look at final result : Ohhhh it looks much Bigger, Meaner, like the chimera carrier should be!
4 - Save chimera.3ds
5 - Check in chimera.3ds, dont forget to comment the check-in.
6 - Add any extra steps here and there :
QA, hamster feeding, the We Fixed It! Party, etc.
7 - Label, merge to release branch and get it out for the next patch!
Somehow, somewhere, there is gotta be a temporal rift hidden in those steps, and step 7 is actually an illusion, a mirage!.
Psstttt : I think the hamsters did it!
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Fuujin
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:57:00 -
[449]
Well if it's CCP the rift is where they have to spend 4 months trying to fix all the bugs created from the model fix.
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Luna Nilaya
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:18:00 -
[450]
ffs CCP!
Couple of weeks and I'm a brand new Chimera pilot so could you please give one artist 10 mins to look at Chimera(should be enough for scaling and testing).
If you don't fix it before I'm getting onboard the first time, I'll always remember it as a midget.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.04.21 19:20:00 -
[451]
I understand why CCP are reluctant to fix the model however.
From their perspective, theres many ships with 'bugged' models, whether its the punisher with its floating 'wing' tips, or the absolution with its 'paper' gun.
However, CCP should also note, the scale of this ships bug (no pun intended) compared to the general ship lineup. Mama always said if ya give one person a sweet, they'll all want one, however the ship itself is largely different from any other graphical issue. Its in many ways comparing apples to pears. Both are fruits, however both are totally different.
Please CCP - Dont genetically modify our ships :(
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Inturist
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.04.21 21:13:00 -
[452]
FIX THE CHIMERA
BUMPING
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InturistÖ
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Highlord Nicolai
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Posted - 2007.04.22 06:25:00 -
[453]
/sign
Fix needed.... badly!
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XaphanX jones
Caldari
Terran Robotics
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Posted - 2007.04.22 09:29:00 -
[454]
somtime soon would be nice :)
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niroshido
Caldari
Vortex.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.22 17:27:00 -
[455]
im bumping this thread cause its an important one, cause im NOT STEPPING ANYWHERE NEAR caldari carrier skills until this ship is fixed
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Jita Alt
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:19:00 -
[456]
OH TEH NOES!! some random guy doesn't want to train for a caldari carrier because it wouldn't be large enough for his ego, better get to fixing that right away CCP
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:34:00 -
[457]
Originally by: Jita Alt
OH TEH NOES!! some random guy doesn't want to train for a caldari carrier because it wouldn't be large enough for his ego, better get to fixing that right away CCP
Go troll elsewhere, nub.
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The Power
HighTech Marines Ltd.
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 12:03:00 -
[458]
Originally by: Jita Alt
OH TEH NOES!! some random guy doesn't want to train for a caldari carrier because it wouldn't be large enough for his ego, better get to fixing that right away CCP
Not large enough for my ego ... thats not the way, to talk to people.
I know that with everything else that needs a fix in eve Caldari carrier itn't on top of that list. Thou it could be nice til see the ship as it was meant to be
Power out
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.25 01:31:00 -
[459]
Originally by: Jita Alt
OH TEH NOES!! some random guy doesn't want to train for a caldari carrier because it wouldn't be large enough for his ego, better get to fixing that right away CCP
WoW should implement a bug where the orc appears 1/100th the size of a human. Than you can go play WoW as an orc and tell me how it feels =]
Not that WoW isnt already cheesy enough of a game having gnomes and airships and muskets oh my..
This type of bug would just put the un-believability scale over the top.
We arent playing Galaxy Quest here, to take it a step further just imagine: 1 frigate for each race had only 1 gun, was 10x the size of a titan and had a santa hat on the top of it.
What would we call that game?
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Luna Nilaya
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Posted - 2007.04.25 17:53:00 -
[460]
Originally by: The Power
Originally by: Jita Alt
OH TEH NOES!! some random guy doesn't want to train for a caldari carrier because it wouldn't be large enough for his ego, better get to fixing that right away CCP
I know that with everything else that needs a fix in eve Caldari carrier itn't on top of that list.
Maybe, but it should be insanely easy to fix.
And unlike many other bugs, this could be fixed completely without a coder.
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Murktor
World Order
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.04.25 19:42:00 -
[461]
PPL who see this carrier for the first time.
Oh its a carrier, its smaller than I thought it would be.
Come on its long enough, I know it takes time but it should not take years to work on, It need to start taking some priority! Take the week and Fix it even though i think it should only take a day to fix and test, maybe the weekend.
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Scyd ([email protected])
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Luna Nilaya
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Posted - 2007.04.25 20:14:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Murktor
PPL who see this carrier for the first time.
Oh its a carrier, its smaller than I thought it would be.
Come on its long enough, I know it takes time but it should not take years to work on, It need to start taking some priority! Take the week and Fix it even though i think it should only take a day to fix and test, maybe the weekend.
If it's only a matter of loading the object file, scaling it right, placing the pivot at the center or what ever dummy object they use as a reference point and exporting/converting it in the game it shouldn't take more than couple of hours(testing and possible configuration included).
But ofcourse there could be more than that since I don't know their pipeline.
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Chewbonga
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Posted - 2007.04.26 03:13:00 -
[463]
The #1 question in the recent "Live Dev Chat" ( btw eat one to all the spammers that ****ed it up ) was when is the caldari carrier size going to be resolved? The reasons need not be rehashed as CCP must be aware of its player base dissatisfaction with the chimara.
Please CCP, take the time, stop coding Chineese version of EVE and deal with your current paying customers obvious complaint.
/Signed
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Chewsmoka
Caldari
Duragon Pioneer Group
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.26 03:14:00 -
[464]
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Nemtar Nataal
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Posted - 2007.04.26 09:04:00 -
[465]
Originally by: Luna Nilaya
Originally by: The Power
Originally by: Jita Alt
OH TEH NOES!! some random guy doesn't want to train for a caldari carrier because it wouldn't be large enough for his ego, better get to fixing that right away CCP
I know that with everything else that needs a fix in eve Caldari carrier itn't on top of that list.
Maybe, but it should be insanely easy to fix.
And unlike many other bugs, this could be fixed completely without a coder.
Easy might not be the best way to describe a element in eve...we have encountered problems countless times that have been caused due to changes in some minuit change....but in some wird way im inclined to agree with you....it very much looks like the original caldari carrier model was much larger...and looking at the shield images posted in the beginning of the thread.....well a man could be forgiven for asuming that the original caldari carrier model still was there some where one a harddisk and the only reason for it to be removed from game...well there might be many....my favorit reason is the Thorax reason "it looks to much like a giant pinis" wouldnt want to take away gallentes potens now would we
http://www.winterblink.com/wda/index.php?i=88
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.26 10:00:00 -
[466]
Originally by: Nemtar Nataal
As CCP are redoing a lot of the models for Triniti 2 i think we might want to wait with the whining untill CCP have finished redoing the models...there might be a sourprice in the basket for caldari... (one that not includes more missile nerfs...DOH sorry that was below the belt...sorry )
The wait as stated in the previous page of this thread is almost a year away. Trinity is out next year according to 2 CCP Employees quoted here.
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Conall Braker
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Posted - 2007.04.26 21:40:00 -
[467]
Missle nerfs oh teh Noes!!! Dont take away my win button!! Umm Chimera size, its sad very sad, but if they have ignored it this long I guess we will be waiting till trinity.
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Tacaro Drigo
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Posted - 2007.04.27 13:18:00 -
[468]
Seems like everyone is taking the problem into the graphical side, (Haven't read all the pages though) but has anyone seen the diference between really flying a Archon and a Chimera. Try to use a Archon inside a POS, and then go use the Chimera. You'll just pray the lords that you have a Chimera. I do think it really needs to be fixed, but not for the good of graphics only, but so that all can be in equal when we talk about playabillity.
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Iggle Piggle
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Posted - 2007.04.27 14:01:00 -
[469]
Originally by: Tacaro Drigo
Seems like everyone is taking the problem into the graphical side, (Haven't read all the pages though) but has anyone seen the diference between really flying a Archon and a Chimera. Try to use a Archon inside a POS, and then go use the Chimera. You'll just pray the lords that you have a Chimera. I do think it really needs to be fixed, but not for the good of graphics only, but so that all can be in equal when we talk about playabillity.
The object size is still the same, its the fact that the visible section inside the collission "bubble" is squished to one side.. Stick the shields on and you will see what I mean. Unless they have changed the collision bubble to be tighter than the shield bubble section then it wouldn't make any difference. However, if they have changed the collision detection to be skin tight rather than bubble tight then I stand corrected.
However, The Chimera is the 2nd best carrier despite this and a damn good fly so ..
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.04.27 14:12:00 -
[470]
Tbh id call it the worst carrier, but thats off the point.
Its a bug in the form that its actual size is greater than its visual size. So in that regard, you could get stuck in a POS area, with the back end of the ship looking like its got 3-4 KM free....when infact, its only got about 5m :P
Without being demanding or anything to the devs and Gms...this graphical bug isnt one which affects just the whole 'Waaaa my wings are floating in space, or 'my guns dont sit on the ship hull'....this bug actually affects gameplay. Long overdue for a short term fix.
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.29 18:47:00 -
[471]
I think the way MMO companies base their time around is:
A) Own agenda
B) What will get us more customers?
C) What will lose us customers?
So far this issue is none of the above, Fixing the chimera will not get them new customers as new players have no idea what a chimera is in the first place.
It also has not lost them any customers yet so why spend the day fixing it?
It is not their agenda or it would be fixed by now.
If this were some glitch in the payroll system where they were losing money, it would be fixed immediatly.
Update: Fix expected "Within the next 1 1/2 to 2 years" |
Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.04.29 19:09:00 -
[472]
...Chances of them fixing it are slim...
Thered have to be something dramatic happen...like every carrier pilot in eve undocking from one station at once in protest....for them to actually do something. (Not that im suggesting that behavior, just saying that it would get the attention hopefully).
Sometimes its the little things that matter most. I mean god..how hard is it to lengthen the model? It doesnt look like its missing anything..just like it got compacted (Traffic accident outside of 4-4? Heh).
They need to fix it...if for no other reason than to let threads like these become extinct.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.30 00:37:00 -
[473]
Edited by: Grainsalt on 30/04/2007 00:39:55
Look, facts are ..
1) It will be fixed in 1 year. (already stated from multiple sources)
2) If they gave a flying rats *ahem* then it would be fixed by now.
3) They don't care about it.. Why would they? We only fly the ships afterall, they don't.
If you don't believe me then why has this 16 page thread been essentially ignored or the fact that 80 people are working on the new renders for next year but no remedial fix can be done. Why? Becuase noone in CCP cares that it is the wrong size or was not picked up by QA before release.
Does it mean I won't fly the ship? God no, I love my carrier.
Does it mean I regret training for it? .. Nope ..
Does it mean I am slightly jaded about being ignored? Ofcourse .. 80 people working on the new models for a year away after ignoring the issue for 1 1/2 years is a pain in the backside. And shows that CCP doesn't give a flying one about the people who fly this ship. But, Hey ho, CCP have ground me down, I give up trying. You win.
My Chimera is still uber, just looks like it was hit by a bat up the a**e. Thank you very much .. OH and don't even get me started about the Wyvern..
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CCP Abathur
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Posted - 2007.04.30 02:00:00 -
[474]
Originally by: Grainsalt
why has this 16 page thread been essentially ignored or the fact that 80 people are working on the new renders for next year but no remedial fix can be done. Why? Becuase noone in CCP cares that it is the wrong size or was not picked up by QA before release.
Oh, we care, more than you might think. You see, the Chimera is hardly the only ship that is suffering graphically. There are several ships in the game that are too big, too small, too fat or the wrong colors, etc... If you want another good laugh, take a look at the size of the Hyperion and compare it to the Nyx or the Hel. The Chimera is simply the poster child for the whole issue.
Sadly, it is probably true that the Chimera and the rest will continue in their current state until the graphics overhaul which is currently scheduled for Kali 3. It may seem like a long time away, but my understanding is that there is a lot of effort going into the graphics renovation project to not only make the game look better but also run smoother.
The good news is that ALL of the ships in EVE are getting overhauls both in terms of graphics and size. So not only will the ships be the correct size, but they will look better than ever! When that happens, everyone in a Chimera can rejoice because TBH they really are the coolest looking carrier.
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.30 08:13:00 -
[475]
Originally by: CCP Abathur
Originally by: Grainsalt
why has this 16 page thread been essentially ignored or the fact that 80 people are working on the new renders for next year but no remedial fix can be done. Why? Becuase noone in CCP cares that it is the wrong size or was not picked up by QA before release.
Oh, we care, more than you might think. You see, the Chimera is hardly the only ship that is suffering graphically. There are several ships in the game that are too big, too small, too fat or the wrong colors, etc... If you want another good laugh, take a look at the size of the Hyperion and compare it to the Nyx or the Hel. The Chimera is simply the poster child for the whole issue.
Sadly, it is probably true that the Chimera and the rest will continue in their current state until the graphics overhaul which is currently scheduled for Kali 3. It may seem like a long time away, but my understanding is that there is a lot of effort going into the graphics renovation project to not only make the game look better but also run smoother.
The good news is that ALL of the ships in EVE are getting overhauls both in terms of graphics and size. So not only will the ships be the correct size, but they will look better than ever! When that happens, everyone in a Chimera can rejoice because TBH they really are the coolest looking carrier.
A frank and honest answer. Fair play and fair enough.. Then I will wait
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.04.30 11:00:00 -
[476]
Originally by: CCP Abathur
Originally by: Grainsalt
why has this 16 page thread been essentially ignored or the fact that 80 people are working on the new renders for next year but no remedial fix can be done. Why? Becuase noone in CCP cares that it is the wrong size or was not picked up by QA before release.
Oh, we care, more than you might think. You see, the Chimera is hardly the only ship that is suffering graphically. There are several ships in the game that are too big, too small, too fat or the wrong colors, etc... If you want another good laugh, take a look at the size of the Hyperion and compare it to the Nyx or the Hel. The Chimera is simply the poster child for the whole issue.
Sadly, it is probably true that the Chimera and the rest will continue in their current state until the graphics overhaul which is currently scheduled for Kali 3. It may seem like a long time away, but my understanding is that there is a lot of effort going into the graphics renovation project to not only make the game look better but also run smoother.
The good news is that ALL of the ships in EVE are getting overhauls both in terms of graphics and size. So not only will the ships be the correct size, but they will look better than ever! When that happens, everyone in a Chimera can rejoice because TBH they really are the coolest looking carrier.
*Waxau replaces his Hula Girl on his car dashboard, with an Abathur one.
Thankyou for the reply mate....but cant you just pull a few threads and you know......dont include the changes in the patch notes? :P That way the other ship pilots wont whine
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.04.30 15:04:00 -
[477]
Well in our corp the people flying chimera's have to contend with all of corp calling them "hairdresser salons"... and by association people flying them for hairdressers. I for one am happy the change in size has been postponed a few years, it gives us manly Archon drivers more time to mention the fact that size matters :P
/Gil
Dont get mad - Get even
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Nemeziskee
Caldari
Serenity and Unicum Empire Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.02 16:36:00 -
[478]
Don't make it bigger!
Make it able to use stargates! :)
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Tony Unrau
Caldari
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.03 08:05:00 -
[479]
Originally by: Grainsalt
Edited by: Grainsalt on 30/04/2007 00:39:55But, Hey ho, CCP have ground me down, I give up trying. You win.
lol this is exactly what I was about to say, it's nice to have dev responses, honestly we all know why we are even getting responses at all ;]
Constant persistence, though I feel the same way now. It's not worth the effort... if they wanted it fixed by now badly enough.. it would be!!
I think CCP by making us wait its trying for more of a "Shock & awe" effect, which is fine and makes sense. It just sucks that it needs to take so long for it to be "complete"
I guess i'll just let this thread die out again.
Update: Fix expected "Within the next 1 1/2 to 2 years" |
icmp
Caldari
Screaming Fist
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Posted - 2007.05.04 14:46:00 -
[480]
/signed
Come on. I've been training since last November for a Chimera, and it's smaller than my Rokh? Or a Hyperion?
I understand that other ships have visual issues too, but do they have 16 pages worth of complaints about them?
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Laurelle
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Posted - 2007.05.04 18:36:00 -
[481]
Psst. It's getting fixed for Rev 2. You should be able to see it on Singularity in all its centered biggness glory. |
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LordMordred
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.04 19:22:00 -
[482]
In Mr. Burns voice:
Excellent
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.04 19:50:00 -
[483]
Originally by: Laurelle
Psst. It's getting fixed for Rev 2. You should be able to see it on Singularity in all its centered biggness glory.
Thats brilliant and its looking like a good size now .
Please make sure you fix the engine effects tho, they haven't been adjusted for the new ship size and so are in the middle of the model rather then at the back.
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ZaKma
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:07:00 -
[484]
Originally by: Laurelle
Psst. It's getting fixed for Rev 2. You should be able to see it on Singularity in all its centered biggness glory.
Only the Chimera or the Nyx and Hel as well?
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LordMordred
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:27:00 -
[485]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Laurelle
Psst. It's getting fixed for Rev 2. You should be able to see it on Singularity in all its centered biggness glory.
Thats brilliant and its looking like a good size now .
Please make sure you fix the engine effects tho, they haven't been adjusted for the new ship size and so are in the middle of the model rather then at the back.
Also the blinky blue lights seem to be a little bit off, that or I'm smoking something.
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Tycoon Girl
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:39:00 -
[486]
anyone able to show a new size comparison screenie ?
good news, was about time hehe...
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FireWynd
Caldari
The Renegade Order
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Posted - 2007.05.05 03:20:00 -
[487]
Chimera gone big
There you go, its on test server atm.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.05 03:33:00 -
[488]
Thank you CCP! :D
Learn what it means to be Caldari with Omerta Syndicate |
Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.05 05:18:00 -
[489]
My hyperion is still bigger than chimera
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Draximus Cane
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.05 07:06:00 -
[490]
Originally by: Akane Miyamoto
My hyperion is still bigger than chimera
Yeah? Well Siv's shuttle is bigger than loxy's Carrier!
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FCDP
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.05 13:05:00 -
[491]
Scale Comparison with a Tempest
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Alexandra
The Littlest Hobos
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.05 15:29:00 -
[492]
Edited by: Alexandra on 05/05/2007 15:26:42
Edited by: Alexandra on 05/05/2007 15:26:16
Originally by: FCDP
Scale Comparison with a Tempest
Your link is 404'ing. Here is the correct link after searching EVE-Files.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/FCDP/chimerasize01(1).jpg
PS. For some reason, the EVE-O system is screwing the link up.
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Tycoon Girl
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Posted - 2007.05.05 16:02:00 -
[493]
thx for screenies guys, and much love for CCP|Laurelle :D
new size is awesome !
any chance you can take a look at the thread in my sig since you seem pretty efficient with simple hotfixs ?
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.05.05 23:43:00 -
[494]
OMG LOVELY!
However in the spirt of testing, and NOT whining......
The engine flares are coming out from the old model (Now the centre of the new chimera) and the strobe lights and front 'headlights' are non-existant :) Oh and the landing strip lights + big light in the 'bay' arent there either.
But other than that, i wub you CCP! Please let us know which young lad or lass did this so we can worship him :)
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Shadowraven213
Caldari
Madison Industrial Co.
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.06 00:17:00 -
[495]
yeah all the lights look like they are left over from the old model
is that the correct size that it should be now?
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.05.06 00:29:00 -
[496]
Originally by: Shadowraven213
yeah all the lights look like they are left over from the old model
is that the correct size that it should be now?
Well ive compared to the thanatos, and its alot bigger than it :) Not compared with an archon, but it'll sure give it a run for its money. So im uber happy :) Even more so if its confirmed to be correct lol
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Grainsalt
Free Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.06 02:31:00 -
[497]
If this IS released on Rev 2.. I think this is one of the best 4th year presents a Chimera (and there is a few of us) pilots can get... Will be Very happy... Yes the Hyperion is still wrong as stated by others, but that is wrong in an inverse way to the carrier. A carrier is suposed to be big, the argument for a BS being too big is a hard point. But brings closure to an age old issue, whereas the Hyperion is a more recent issue that will be fixed in a more relative timescale.
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