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Orpheus Nyberg
The Longshot Brigade
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:30:00 -
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I'm still fairly new to Eve and I just was curious if there is ever much 1v1 PVP among the large size ships like Cruisers, Battlecruisers, and Battleships. I have seen plenty of discussion about frigate and destroyer 1v1 fights, fittings, etc. but not anything besides that. If this is a somewhat occurring matter, where does it usually happen as far as security zones? Also any other information relative to this subject would interest me as well.
Thanks for reading. |

Arthur Aihaken
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:33:00 -
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Orpheus Nyberg wrote:I'm still fairly new to Eve and I just was curious if there is ever much 1v1 PVP among the large size ships like Cruisers, Battlecruisers, and Battleships. I have seen plenty of discussion about frigate and destroyer 1v1 fights, fittings, etc. but not anything besides that. If this is a somewhat occurring matter, where does it usually happen as far as security zones? Also any other information relative to this subject would interest me as well.
Thanks for reading. Cruisers, yes. It's not very common with Battlecruisers (other than Command Ships) and almost unheard of with Battleships - especially with the new warp mechanics. At least for solo PvP. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:33:00 -
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Cruisers yes. That is a common solo PvP class of shop.
Above that less so but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:34:00 -
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I get shot at by Tengus and Legions in Losec on a regular basis.
The 'nado is the ship of preference for ganking freighters, but you also see them solo.
You do not see a lot of solo Battleships outside highsec though. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:34:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Cruisers yes. That is a common solo PvP class of shop.
Above that less so but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
I would almost suggest cruiser solo PvP is more common that destroyer solo PvP, but don't have figures to back that up. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:35:00 -
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Yea, as it turns out the "hard-core" community of EvE is actually incredibly afraid of taking risks. Which is why you wont see someone flying around a really expensive ships solo unless he has balls of steel.
Balls of steel which people in this game don't have, and tend to make "fun" of for not being as manly in comparison. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:35:00 -
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Yes.
All hail the Cynabal. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:35:00 -
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double post |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:36:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, as it turns out the "hard-core" community of EvE is actually incredibly afraid of taking risks. This is what you know from your vast experience I guess? eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
449
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:36:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Cruisers yes. That is a common solo PvP class of shop.
Above that less so but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I would say cruiser solo PvP is more common that destroyer solo PvP, but don't have figures to back that up.
Depends if you count a Tengu as a cruiser I suppose :D Though drone Vexors are becoming more a thing., |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:37:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, as it turns out the "hard-core" community of EvE is actually incredibly afraid of taking risks. Which is why you wont see someone flying around a really expensive ships solo unless he has balls of steel because of (INSERT NEVER ENDLING LIST OF REASONS HOW IT MIGHT BE A BAD IDEA WHICH CAUSES THE Y CHROMOSOME TO MUTATE INTO AN X)
Balls of steel which people in this game don't have, and tend to make "fun" of for not being as manly in comparison. This is what you know from your vast experience I guess?
Is it wrong? Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:38:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Is it wrong? Yes. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
661
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:40:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Depends if you count a Tengu as a cruiser I suppose :D Though drone Vexors are becoming more a thing., Yep. T3 Cruiser. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:42:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Is it wrong? Yes.
From my experience there's only been one man who's been manly enough to pimp out a battleship and fly it around solo. I reach my conclusion because since his being brave and manly was such a unique instance, everyone in the eve community could not stop talking about how they wish they were as brave as he was.
If his non risk-averse approach to eve were the norm, his being found, fought, and killed wouldn't have been an episode that the greater majority of the game felt was necessary to bring to the attention of everyone else.
The deal is, turns out people in this game will only take a "risk" if it's a very small one.
No one has the testicular fortitude to go "all-in" relying on his self alone to plunge balls deep into the quivering unknown of lady luck's realm of possibility. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Yang Aurilen
Summary Executions Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:43:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, as it turns out the "hard-core" community of EvE is actually incredibly afraid of taking risks. Which is why you wont see someone flying around a really expensive ships solo unless he has balls of steel because of (INSERT NEVER ENDING LIST OF REASONS HOW IT MIGHT BE A BAD IDEA WHICH CAUSES THE Y CHROMOSOME TO MUTATE INTO AN X)
Balls of steel which people in this game don't have, and tend to make "fun" of for not being as manly in comparison. Says the guy who's afraid to fit his ship while plexing in FW because it's "cheaper" to lose an unfitted ship rather than having fun making money with space pew on the side in a pvp capable ship. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:45:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, as it turns out the "hard-core" community of EvE is actually incredibly afraid of taking risks. Which is why you wont see someone flying around a really expensive ships solo unless he has balls of steel because of (INSERT NEVER ENDING LIST OF REASONS HOW IT MIGHT BE A BAD IDEA WHICH CAUSES THE Y CHROMOSOME TO MUTATE INTO AN X)
Balls of steel which people in this game don't have, and tend to make "fun" of for not being as manly in comparison. Says the guy who's afraid to fit his ship while plexing in FW because it's "cheaper" to lose an unfitted ship rather than having fun making money with space pew on the side in a pvp capable ship.
Afraid? No. Just I know that when I'm watching netflix while capping a plex, it would be unwise to have my ship expensively fit since I know if someone shows up, I'm going to be too engrossed in "the office" to want to alt tab. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
449
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:47:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Is it wrong? Yes. From my experience there's only been one man who's been manly enough to pimp out a battleship and fly it around solo. I reach my conclusion because since his being brave and manly was such a unique instance, everyone in the eve community could not stop talking about how they wish they were as brave as he was. If his non risk-averse approach to eve were the norm, his being found, fought, and killed wouldn't have been an episode that the greater majority of the game felt was necessary to bring to the attention of everyone else. The deal is, turns out people in this game will only take a "risk" if it's a very small one. No one has the testicular fortitude to go "all-in" relying on his self alone to plunge balls deep into the quivering unknown of lady luck's realm of possibility.
There was a 40 bill solo Golem killed just last week. No linking killmails unfortunately. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:50:00 -
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But back to the OP
Sadly, disappointingly, it appears as though the EvE community isn't as hardcore as it claims to be. They tout their playing a game that comes with "loss", yet none of them are willing to have the confidence in themselves to be willing to fight solo in a battleship.
It would be really cool, I agree. To hear about the epic 1v1s of real confident, brave men each wagering large percentages of themselves on the outcome of their efforts. .. . But that's simply not the case in this game. If they lose their 1v1 in a high stakes wager such as a battleship, well then they can't say they "didn't care" and it might potentially make them look like a "loser" when in reality they're a winner for having the balls to do what everyone else is too afraid to even attempt.
OP, it would be so interesting if this game's community wasn't such a cowardly one. But, alas, at least we have our 1v1 t1 frig ur gays sex with moms at the suns Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Arthur Aihaken
Perkone Caldari State
3082
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:50:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:There was a 40 bill solo Golem killed just last week. No linking killmails unfortunately. Pretty sure Tornado-ganking someone in high-sec doesn't really count as 1v1 solo PvP... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Yang Aurilen
Summary Executions Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:51:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, as it turns out the "hard-core" community of EvE is actually incredibly afraid of taking risks. Which is why you wont see someone flying around a really expensive ships solo unless he has balls of steel because of (INSERT NEVER ENDING LIST OF REASONS HOW IT MIGHT BE A BAD IDEA WHICH CAUSES THE Y CHROMOSOME TO MUTATE INTO AN X)
Balls of steel which people in this game don't have, and tend to make "fun" of for not being as manly in comparison. Says the guy who's afraid to fit his ship while plexing in FW because it's "cheaper" to lose an unfitted ship rather than having fun making money with space pew on the side in a pvp capable ship. Afraid? No. Just I know that when I'm watching netflix while capping a plex, it would be unwise to have my ship expensively fit since I know if someone shows up, I'm going to be too engrossed in "the office" to want to alt tab.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fyO4uKkxo Skip to 1:35. Never AFK in space. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:51:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Is it wrong? Yes. From my experience there's only been one man who's been manly enough to pimp out a battleship and fly it around solo. I reach my conclusion because since his being brave and manly was such a unique instance, everyone in the eve community could not stop talking about how they wish they were as brave as he was. If his non risk-averse approach to eve were the norm, his being found, fought, and killed wouldn't have been an episode that the greater majority of the game felt was necessary to bring to the attention of everyone else. The deal is, turns out people in this game will only take a "risk" if it's a very small one. No one has the testicular fortitude to go "all-in" relying on his self alone to plunge balls deep into the quivering unknown of lady luck's realm of possibility. There was a 40 bill solo Golem killed just last week. No linking killmails unfortunately.
Balls of Steel Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
661
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:51:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:From my experience... That's all that needed to be written. The rest was a waste of time.
Trying to turn this thread into another of your crusade's against everyone else is stupid. This was a simple question that has already been answered.
Just give it a rest for a change.
eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
3816
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:53:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Is it wrong? Yes. From my experience there's only been one man who's been manly enough to pimp out a battleship and fly it around solo. I reach my conclusion because since his being brave and manly was such a unique instance, everyone in the eve community could not stop talking about how they wish they were as brave as he was. If his non risk-averse approach to eve were the norm, his being found, fought, and killed wouldn't have been an episode that the greater majority of the game felt was necessary to bring to the attention of everyone else. The deal is, turns out people in this game will only take a "risk" if it's a very small one. No one has the testicular fortitude to go "all-in" relying on his self alone to plunge balls deep into the quivering unknown of lady luck's realm of possibility. You do realize most T3's are worth much more than the average battleship? And plenty of people solo in T3's.
The problem with solo battleships isn't one of cost, it's more the fact that most are big, unwieldy ships not suitable for solo-pvp.
Having said that, I always enjoyed getting raped in HS by Loren Gallen in his Mach 'back in the day'. GÖí -á-á Major (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä -áHerrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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Arthur Aihaken
Perkone Caldari State
3082
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:53:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:But back to the OPGǪ Sadly, disappointingly, it appears as though the EvE community isn't as hardcore as it claims to be. They tout their playing a game that comes with "loss", yet none of them are willing to have the confidence in themselves to be willing to fight solo in a battleship. The problem isn't solo PvP in a battleship, it's that you'll almost never get a 1:1 fight. More often than not you'll instead be tackled by an interceptor then dogpiled. Which is fly you rarely see battleships outside of fleets or missions. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:53:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:From my experience... That's all that needed to be written. The rest was a waste of time. Trying to turn this thread into another of your crusade's against everyone else is stupid. This was a simple question that has already been answered. Just give it a rest for a change.
OK so I'm looking at the eve launcher and it says there are 45000 people online.
Name me 45 people who do 1v1's in battleships. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
449
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:55:00 -
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You see battleship 1v1 duels in Hek all the time.
But if you mean taking a battleship on a solo roam through losec so you can get blobbed, no not many people are that stupid.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:56:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:OK so I'm looking at the eve launcher and it says there are 45000 people online.
Name me 45 people who do 1v1's in battleships.
Go back to my original answer.
The rest is just your "everyone else has no balls" rubbish.
There are a lot of experienced players who are prepared to take risks. T3 cruiser solo pvp is a good example where the reward for loss is not only a huge loss mail, but skills as well.
The reason for not commonly solo pvping in larger class ships isn't fear of risk, it's not strategically or tactically smart to solo in those ships. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:57:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:You see battleship 1v1 duels in Hek all the time.
But if you mean taking a battleship on a solo roam through losec so you can get blobbed, no not many people are that stupid.
O ok, so yea, people are afraid of losing.
I get it, in a game where people claim they're better than other games because they play a game that revolves around risk, they're afraid to take them.
Got it.
NoBalls Online Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |

Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
3817
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:59:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Afraid? No. Just I know that when I'm shitpoasting and trolling up the forums while capping a plex, it would be unwise to have my ship expensively fit since I know if someone shows up, I'm going to be too engrossed in arguing with Tippia to want to alt tab. Made some minor corrections for you. GÖí -á-á Major (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä -áHerrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.16 22:01:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:But back to the OPGǪ Sadly, disappointingly, it appears as though the EvE community isn't as hardcore as it claims to be. They tout their playing a game that comes with "loss", yet none of them are willing to have the confidence in themselves to be willing to fight solo in a battleship. The problem isn't solo PvP in a battleship, it's that you'll almost never get a 1:1 fight. More often than not you'll instead be tackled by an interceptor then dogpiled. Which is why you'll almost never see battleships outside of fleets or missioning in high-sec.
So since everyone is afraid all the time because they think everyone else is going to cheat by bringing in others, no one is willing to take a risk as a 1v1 pilot in an expensive battleship.
Which means that when it does happen, it becomes a spectacle. So it comes down to since everyone is weak and afraid, none of them are willing to stand on their own and man up.
EvE has turned into an excuse factory where instead of coming up with reasons why you should do something, you spend all day coming up with reasons why you should not do something.
Man up. Or are you afraid of losing some pixels? Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
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