Ignoring the knee-jerk reactionary 'troll' comment, I'm getting the part where you think 106mm is a locking time instead of a scan resolution. I get that you're confused about the purpose of a battleship. What I don't get is why you would make this point if it was anything other than complaining. Why SHOULD a battleship be able to lock things faster? You say you're making a point, but you're not providing clarity on the follow through or destination of this point, or why this point matters.

So let's bottom line it, shall we? Because, quite frankly, you're talking to people here with far more battleship experience than you so, whatever your problem is, I'm sure we can clear it up.

Provided you're not just trolling, of course.

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I'm correct. Marauders are not battleships they're marauders. They're simply based on a battleship hull. In the same way that T3's are not cruisers, they're strategic cruisers.

They're not cruisers. They're Strategic Cruisers.

Likewise so are 'You're mom" insults. If you can't act at least as mature as my 7 year old I'm going to ignore you.

Not even close. That was a witty quip, I'll agree not in the best taste, but it was hardly the epitome of ignorance. That's your forte.

Yawn. Get back on topic or GTFO of this thread.

LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!

I'm still fairly new to Eve and I just was curious if there is ever much 1v1 PVP among the large size ships like Cruisers, Battlecruisers, and Battleships. I have seen plenty of discussion about frigate and destroyer 1v1 fights, fittings, etc. but not anything besides that. If this is a somewhat occurring matter, where does it usually happen as far as security zones? Also any other information relative to this subject would interest me as well.

Thanks for reading.

What should the meta for BSes look like Infinity Ziona?

Much like it does now. Battleships are weak in lots of areas against smaller ships, significantly in terms of application of damage and mobility.

Battleships should be given an increased ability to force an engagement, which would mean a significant boost to scan resolution, 150 to 200mm. This along with a sebo with scan res script would allow them to force engagements on battle-cruisers and most cruisers.

But they can already get plenty of engagements with cruisers. Locking times are not what you have put down.

Except the math and the game says they are. Sorry but its not something that can be argued with.

The difference between you and I is I have flown battleships solo since 2003 and, you haven't.

Except the math and the game says they are. Sorry but its not something that can be argued with.

The difference between you and I is I have flown battleships solo since 2003 and, you haven't.

No, you didn't, you bought your character illicitly. I've played this game for near a decade, and quit for quite a while in between subs. I have MASSIVE gaps in my knowledge of this game.

But I can't hold a candle to your sheer ignorance. Do you even play this game?

Oh, and I betcha I probably have more flight time in battleships than you do, let alone Baltec, who literally does not fly anything else.

So tell me why that golem in the vid was locking cruisers at 8 seconds when you say that is the locking time on battleship sized targets?

As someone who flys BS almost all the time I simply do not see the numbers that you have stated.

Come on guys, that 'your mom' joke was funny. Your mom's so fat she's a marauder class battleship? C'mon, that's grade A stuff.


Sorry, marauders aren't battleships.

Because 8 seconds is about how long it takes for a battleship to lock a cruiser. Which is about 3 seconds too long to lock one that wants to leave before you lock it.

Factor in your warp in, that 3 second delay where you just sit there at the end of warp and you have no chance to lock a cruiser before it warps away.

Raven locking:

A frigate: 19s (Frigate warps in 3s) - consensual pvp only
A destroyer: 14 s (destroyer warps in 4s) - consensual pvp only
A cruiser: 12 s (cruiser warps in 5s) - consensual pvp only
A battlecruiser: 9.5 seconds (battlecruiser warps in 9 seconds) - consensual pvp only
A battleships: 8 seconds (battleships warps in 11 seconds) - non-consensual pvp possible

I'll quote you.


I do not see these numbers in game when fighting people. 8 seconds is is closer to locking a cruiser, not a battleship. Your numbers do not correspond to what I see in game.

I'll quote you.


I do not see these numbers in game when fighting people. 8 seconds is is closer to locking a cruiser, not a battleship. Your numbers do not correspond to what I see in game.

No, you didn't, you bought your character illicitly. I've played this game for near a decade, and quit for quite a while in between subs. I have MASSIVE gaps in my knowledge of this game.

But I can't hold a candle to your sheer ignorance. Do you even play this game?

Oh, and I betcha I probably have more flight time in battleships than you do, let alone Baltec, who literally does not fly anything else.

That's without sensor booster. With sensor booster its around 8 seconds.

Amusing. How low must a troll sink to try and discredit their opponent. Even more amusing when it blatantly shows their ignorance.

I think you should keep out this discussion Kaarous before you make even more a fool of yourself.

I'm not using one. Equally, a BS can be in warp a lot faster than in 11 seconds. None of the numbers you are posting have any relevance to what happens in game. Before the warp speed changes I was well known for our running cruiser fleets in my mega, with the changes its possible for me leave them in my dust when roaming.

A fool of myself?

You can argue with the data all you want but that's how the game is coded. Whether you "feel" its faster is irrelevant. Go eject a cruiser in space and target it with a base Raven and see for yourself.

Except the math and the game says they are. Sorry but its not something that can be argued with.

The difference between you and I is I have flown battleships solo since 2003 and, you haven't.