Hai , I can haz CONCORD in my Wormhole?

Seriously, if you are comparing the incursions in HS with activities in a Wormhole or Null and saying it just pays as much, then there is something wrong in here :)

I bolded the part where you were being an idiot. Just because anyone can do it, doesn't mean it isn't broken/imbalanced/overpowered/whatever.

So what is stopping you from forming a fleet and kill the MOM when it spawns. Or is that to much work?

Nothing.

What exactly was the point you were trying to make here?

I demand that all "wana-be" hi-sec pvper bears be forced to actually pvp, as in shoot those who are only too happy and able to shoot back, rather then the current "shoot everyone as long as they can't shoot back" that passes for pvp in hi-sec.

The high sec incursions is the atm the best way to make isk.

100mil pr hour with basicly 0 risk.
A lot of 0.0 ppl have alts there or go there since it is the best isk/time

A corpy of mine wrote about it in his blog:
http://eveblog.dsan.dk/?p=122

And I predict, that people will leave 0.0 corps and alliances, to go back to highsec and make isk.
So I encourage, corp and alliance guidlines or methods; to organzie, Legislate, control, manage or prevent pilots running incursions in highsec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61hR4_JlbBo <-- For relevance

If you cant keep up your doing it wrong. You butthurt you cant earn mega isk in eve? Afraid your wallet is going the way of the dodo bird? Inflation eating you in game as much as it is in RL? Dont be butthurt. Figure out a way to make more isk.


When Eve started making a mil isk per hour wouldve been staggering to the majority of Eve. Ive seen the wallets and per hour income grow since I got in game. This is nothing new. This is the way life and games go. Get used to it or unsub....btw can I haz your stuffz?

FYI this whole thread and the whining about jams persisting after ship's death is about "Kill It With Fire" suicide ganking you highsec carebears :) So don't try to turn it around. Go Go cry to CCP about the Jams :D

Good luck with writing random junk, like unsub and etc when none of this was talked by me, go ahead and re-read what I wrote about the comparison. You cannot simply say oh a 10 man fleet can make the same in a WH so it's ok (lawlz).

Nope, I made my comment on the jams, now I gotta lolz that your butthurt that you arent making enough iskies. You broke. Go cry to CCP that you aint got no isk and that everyone is better than you at making it so you must hurt them and stop the bad bad ebil bears!! They willz ruinz your gamez!!!!

Currently on SiSi if you get your ship blown up by Concord, there is no insurance payout. If that makes it to TQ that would be a pretty big game changer for this.

Sending in 3-4 waves of BB to kill a single faction BS would still be worth it for the ISK ratio, but only if some shiny stuff dropped, if they start fitting T2 to those shiny BS, you have to rely strictly on tears which won't keep you in new BB's.

Nope, I made my comment on the jams, now I gotta lolz that your butthurt that you arent making enough iskies. You broke. Go cry to CCP that you aint got no isk and that everyone is better than you at making it so you must hurt them and stop the bad bad ebil bears!! They willz ruinz your gamez!!!!

2/10 for trying to turn the butthurt around :D

Still if your mind works like this

(correcting you on the point that a 10 man WH fleet SHOULD make as much as a 10 man HS incursion fleet so it's ok == being butthurt and broke and etc )

then go see a doctor :) or become a prophet, cause most of them had these kinds of hallucinations.

we've already have enough lulz suicide ganking you and this thread has paid itself in tears over and over.

PS : now reply with something more irrelevant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61hR4_JlbBo <-- For relevance

If you cant keep up your doing it wrong. You butthurt you cant earn mega isk in eve? Afraid your wallet is going the way of the dodo bird? Inflation eating you in game as much as it is in RL? Dont be butthurt. Figure out a way to make more isk.


When Eve started making a mil isk per hour wouldve been staggering to the majority of Eve. Ive seen the wallets and per hour income grow since I got in game. This is nothing new. This is the way life and games go. Get used to it or unsub....btw can I haz your stuffz?

sir, it's 600m/h for 4 ships, do the math.
and the risk is being ambushed and lose them all.

Yeah and this is 100mil/hr for one ship. Do the math!! Its equivalent. And WHs if done right are almost negligible, especially the harder ones to run into anything. Nevermind they have to scan you down while your in the sites which gives you more than enough time. Oh and guess what.... Sanshas can kill you too if you suck. And theyre NPCS!!

You do not need probes to find anomalies and you can completely track down people while cloaked without local. If you think you don't run into things in whs I ask you to go into one, since at least March we've been running into many cloaked fleets prowling around. No dscan will help ya. It is a ******* blast

Been dare dun dat got the badge and cookies.

Should you be able to earn more isk in highsec than in nullsec? Yes.
Because it depends on what you're doing.
What 1 lone pilot is doing in nullsec shouldn't necessary earn him more isk than what 10 pilots are earning each together in an incursion fleet

Wow. The stupid is strong with you.

Why don't you just come out and say "I want highsec Incursions to be the best earner in the game?"
Since all you're doing, is ignoring any counter argument to risk:reward and sucking on the ISK *****.

It's not about how much ONE pilot can earn in an hour, since the activity is a group activity, and ergo scales up in null, too.

Please, tell me, why SHOULD a player be able to earn more in highsec, pray tell?

*sighs* You are only ignorant to the fact that nullsec incursions will earn you more isk...

IF
YOU
ARE
DOING
IT
CORRECTLY

doing it wrong equals flying in an inefficient fleet with wrong ships, fittings and strategies for the sites.

If my alliance had sov in nullsec and an incursion spawned there I'd be extremely happy to run there instead of highsec. In null there's less competition, you can shoot when people **** you off and the rewards are so much higher <3.

Lots of highsec pilots earn more than what a nullsec pilot earns in nullsec. The other way around lots of nullsec pilots earn more than what a highsec pilot earns in highsec.
It all depends on who you pick out.
The explorer in highsec vs. the explorer in nullsec.
The miner in highsec vs. the miner in nullsec.
The incursion runner in highsec vs. the incursion runner in nullsec.

This would be a valid argument 10 months ago. But now when the puggest of the pug fleets has at least maels, sleipnirs and lokis, its pretty bad. It will only get more over the top as time goes on and everyone starts settling into their shiny nightmare they bought with incursion isk. In BTL pub i'd say the scrub ships being advertised are in the minority now.




What it comes down to is that a somewhat better reward doesn't scale well with uninterrupted farming in safe conditions using optimized pimp setups.

Sanctums compare favorably with incursions right up until you consider that most space cant have them, and that you can't exactly travel to them like you can with highsec incursions. Those that do host sanctums are saturated with ratters, and getting good anoms in succession is anything but steady.

The same is true for ded sites and exploration, but in a more dramatic way. You can easily make more than incursions, but it depends on how lucky you are between the sites spawning, escalations and the drops.

I insincerely hope the guy that thought up incursions was in that 20% cut.
If not, please fire more sets of 20% at random untill you hit jackpot.

Do the same with the guy that thought introducing a "hit this and get rich" anom-scanner button was a luminous improvement to the game.

Instead, find the guy that dit WH space and clone him about two hundred times and fire everyone else.


If it's the same guy, nah, not possible.

the same with your super duper incursion, sir.
if you die to sansha, you better get back to WoW

here's a fun idea: Incursioners should start using suicide alts to jam logis and wipe fleets rather than trying to contest them. They'll get some shiny faction loot, T2 salvage, plus more incursion rewards. Sounds like a perfect TDF tactic.

Is it wrong that when I read that CCP laid off 20% of their staff relating to WoD, Incarna, and other errata, the first thing I thought was: CCP just got 20% cooler?

~Andrei.