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dalman	Posted - 2006.05.05 23:31:00 - [91] Originally by: Tachy Could someone now compare the phoon and a domi, an arma, a raven at the same amount of skillpoint,spweddy bleawe? The phoon wins, hand down. Well, the stupidly overpowred ECM might save the dominix (chance based). Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Wizie	Posted - 2006.05.05 23:33:00 - [92] Originally by: dalman Originally by: Tachy Could someone now compare the phoon and a domi, an arma, a raven at the same amount of skillpoint,spweddy bleawe? The phoon wins, hand down. Well, the stupidly overpowred ECM might save the dominix (chance based). The Domi wins 9/10 times.
Brechan Skene	Posted - 2006.05.05 23:51:00 - [93] When you post your setups why do you not include implant supports? Have you considered adding a non-standard weapon setup with the phoon? What is the best way to setup up your low slots to tank against gate campers? Thankyou Brechan Skene
dalman	Posted - 2006.05.05 23:58:00 - [94] Originally by: Wizie Originally by: dalman Originally by: Tachy Could someone now compare the phoon and a domi, an arma, a raven at the same amount of skillpoint,spweddy bleawe? The phoon wins, hand down. Well, the stupidly overpowred ECM might save the dominix (chance based). The Domi wins 9/10 times. Define 'win'. If it was a 'non-ECM' fight the phoon would win 10/10 times. In a real fight with the stupidly overpowered ECM, a phoon would easily get out of scrambling range and warp away due to the higher base speed. If the domi would 'sacrifice' one med to keep the phoon in range, then we're equal on EW and the phoon would once again win. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Ninjja	Posted - 2006.05.06 00:59:00 - [95] Edited by: Ninjja on 06/05/2006 01:00:10 I personally love the phoon. Ive flown both Minnie BSes and i prefer the phoon, mainly because of the range and drones. Granted, the range is gunna take a sidestep to the upcoming missile bonuses. Unfortunately, with this particular setup, you would have a hard time hitting much of anything smaller than a battlecruiser. Ogres and Seige missiles wont help much agains a good cruiser pilot. However, i have always beleived that, like the Scorpion is to the Caldari, the Typhoon is best as a support ship. It has a massive versatility and capability to really turn the tables on any multi ship engagement. Yes, i do use it for pvp sometimes too. Pertsonally i find that a TP, t2 Valkyries, and heavy missiles with a just about any guns will make the phoon a definate bear to take down. Clicky: Eve Most Wanted List
Natsuki	Posted - 2006.05.06 01:11:00 - [96] Originally by: Ninjja Edited by: Ninjja on 06/05/2006 01:00:10 I personally love the phoon. Ive flown both Minnie BSes and i prefer the phoon, mainly because of the range and drones. Granted, the range is gunna take a sidestep to the upcoming missile bonuses. Unfortunately, with this particular setup, you would have a hard time hitting much of anything smaller than a battlecruiser. Ogres and Seige missiles wont help much agains a good cruiser pilot. However, i have always beleived that, like the Scorpion is to the Caldari, the Typhoon is best as a support ship. It has a massive versatility and capability to really turn the tables on any multi ship engagement. Yes, i do use it for pvp sometimes too. Pertsonally i find that a TP, t2 Valkyries, and heavy missiles with a just about any guns will make the phoon a definate bear to take down. uh... you DO realize the phoon has 50 m3 more drone space after 5 heavy drones???? ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai RAWRRR!!!11 Sig Hijack - Imaran
Ninjja	Posted - 2006.05.06 05:44:00 - [97] Edited by: Ninjja on 06/05/2006 05:44:48 uh... you DO realize the phoon has 50 m3 more drone space after 5 heavy drones???? Well yeah. LOL. I always stock 5 heavies and 5 t2 mediums. The heavies are much more expendable in price. But i dont use more than one or two ogres unless im fighting only big ships. Berserkers 4tw. Clicky: Eve Most Wanted List
lollerskates	Posted - 2006.05.06 06:06:00 - [98] the typhoon deserves to be uber for a while after being a pathetic pile of crap for 3 years.
MrFu	Posted - 2006.05.06 06:08:00 - [99] Originally by: lollerskates the typhoon deserves to be uber for a while after being a pathetic pile of crap for 3 years. Yes
Leshrac Shepherd	Posted - 2006.05.06 16:06:00 - [100] Originally by: lollerskates the typhoon deserves to be uber for a while after being a pathetic pile of crap for 3 years. Maybe, the problem is that a 5% rate of fire bonus, while nice, can't transform a "pathetic pile of crap" into an uber pwnmobile. (at level 5, that bonus contributes less than the 10% of the total damage output) So, either the ship wasn't as crap as seemingly everyone says it to be, or it won't pwn as much as all the hype around could lead you to believe. ---------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Grim Vandal	Posted - 2006.05.06 17:54:00 - [101] Originally by: Leshrac Shepherd Originally by: lollerskates the typhoon deserves to be uber for a while after being a pathetic pile of crap for 3 years. Maybe, the problem is that a 5% rate of fire bonus, while nice, can't transform a "pathetic pile of crap" into an uber pwnmobile. (at level 5, that bonus contributes less than the 10% of the total damage output) So, either the ship wasn't as crap as seemingly everyone says it to be, or it won't pwn as much as all the hype around could lead you to believe. yup I wonder about that as well ... Greetings Grim
dalman	Posted - 2006.05.06 19:08:00 - [102] Originally by: Grim Vandal Originally by: Leshrac Shepherd Originally by: lollerskates the typhoon deserves to be uber for a while after being a pathetic pile of crap for 3 years. Maybe, the problem is that a 5% rate of fire bonus, while nice, can't transform a "pathetic pile of crap" into an uber pwnmobile. (at level 5, that bonus contributes less than the 10% of the total damage output) So, either the ship wasn't as crap as seemingly everyone says it to be, or it won't pwn as much as all the hype around could lead you to believe. yup I wonder about that as well ... The answer is that the phoon is already a good ship for 1vs1. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.05.06 19:45:00 - [103] This is a quality troll post. Grats. If people have the skills for t2 siege, t2 heavy drones, minnie BS V and t2 large autocannons then they deserve to cause some pain.
Moridan	Posted - 2006.05.06 19:50:00 - [104] Well, as a person with plenty of skills for this ship, i will be having much fun :) Ratting and PVP will be improved. "Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
Blind Man	Posted - 2006.05.06 20:06:00 - [105] Originally by: Deja Thoris This is a quality troll post. Grats. If people have the skills for t2 siege, t2 heavy drones, minnie BS V and t2 large autocannons then they deserve to cause some pain. qft Passari will never be safe again sig thingy under maintenance
Kashre	Posted - 2006.05.06 20:20:00 - [106] Edited by: Kashre on 06/05/2006 20:21:20 The phoon is already a decently useable ship. This is just a little icing, and really it isnt comesurate with other ships bonuses if it's only getting 5% on the missiles anyways. Not that Im complaining. With the current phoon I have beat apocs, geddeons, tempests, domis, HACs and frigate swarms. Course, Ive been slaughtered by geddeons, tempests megathrons, domis and frigate swarms in a phoon too... I have been in a couple of situations in a phoon where 5% missile ROF would have maybe let me live when I otherwise ended up in a pod... but not many. So TBH I dont see that this is changing things all that much. +++ It's called "low security space" for a reason.

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