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Serious Miner	Posted - 2006.05.13 07:59:00 - [61] dont use heavy electron/ion/neutron blaster on thorax, it give some DPS improvement , but u die 2 time faster , 4small rails/neutrons medium nosferatu + 1600, i think best
Marcus Alkhaar	Posted - 2006.05.13 08:04:00 - [62] it seems like you need a teaching too.... I suppose this is an alt?
Samirol	Posted - 2006.05.13 18:23:00 - [63] Edited by: Samirol on 13/05/2006 18:23:31 Originally by: Rorix Whitecloud heya samirol :) about that 3v2... gf... tho you DID know what our ships were before the duel, and you brought along a racially fitted BB as your 2nd cruiser, with that BB starting at beyond any of our firing ranges :P But still, it was a good fight, heh :) he had multispecs I believe, and you knew that I was bringing the rax, and a BB. But the thorax took most of the damage I believe May be an alt, not mine though. Shakespearean Insults
Morrigan Starlover	Posted - 2006.05.13 19:39:00 - [64] Originally by: Samirol Edited by: Samirol on 10/05/2006 00:45:35 Originally by: Tiberyya Za I'm a newbie. I really don't see how 5 light rails and 1600mm is gonna do anything but get me killed, slowly. QuickFit estimated DPS vs another Thorax, including drones. 5x light 150mm rails: 104 DPS 5x light neutron II: 162 DPS 5x heavy electron: 166 DPS 5x heavy ion: 174 DPS 5x heavy neutron: 184 DPS They have more range. There have been some fights where the 20km disruptor was enough to keep them from warping away. They stayed at about 10km but because I had the rails, i could keep shooting it down even after I lost my drones. Although it is slower, it works. I also have the heavy electron setup that works as well while retaining the 1600mm plate but it definitely more cap demanding than the 150mm rail setup. All in all...the 150s are generally easier to use. If you are more comfortable with the small or med blasters, good. 800 plates are just going to get you killed slightly slower than 400 plate setups, the 1600 is essential "Only problem is you don't have enough firepower to take out a cruiser setup for mission 2s. A missioner will have almost the same setup except with two cap rechargers where you are using scramblers. More than likely you will be the one warping out." Believe me...I have enough firepower to take out a missioning cruiser. The drones help a lot, and even if they go down, I will win the war of attrition. You would win the war of attrition vs a clone but with cap rechargers replacing the scramblers? Wow explain that one plz.
Leviathan9	Posted - 2006.05.13 23:53:00 - [65] Highs: 5x Small Neutron Blaster IIs (Void S) Meds: 1 10mn MWD, web, scram. Lows: Med rep II, 1600mm rolled tungsten, Explosive Hardener, 2x Energised Adaptive Membrane II.
Greyshadow	Posted - 2006.05.14 14:22:00 - [66] Ok changed my setup High: 4 x Small Neutron Blaster II 1 x Medium Nos II Med: 1 x 10mn MWD 1 x Webber 1 x Scrambler (7.5km or 20km) Low: 1 x Med Rep II 1 x 1600mm Plate 1 x F85 Damage Control 1 x Energized Nano (20%) 1 x PDS Tested and its lovely "Now you see me, now you don't!"
Karylia	Posted - 2006.06.05 11:37:00 - [67] I prefer this setup : 5x Light Neutron Blaster II 1x Web 1x Disruptor 1x MWD 1x Med rep II 1x Damage control 1x Energized Adaptive Nano II 1x 1600mm Tungsten 1x Magnometric field stab II
Coulix	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:33:00 - [68] Setup to laught at gate campers. high : small neutron med : mwd , cap recharger low : 2*1600 mm 2RCU energized hardener. 9400 k of armor on a thorax. - jump in system - 5-10 people see you, lock you, start shooting - go straight for the gate, activate ur mwd laugh at them in local. what you cant even blow a cruser ??
Palx	Posted - 2006.06.05 15:40:00 - [69] Originally by: Tiberyya Za I'm a newbie. I really don't see how 5 light rails and 1600mm is gonna do anything but get me killed, slowly. QuickFit estimated DPS vs another Thorax, including drones. 5x light 150mm rails: 104 DPS 5x light neutron II: 162 DPS 5x heavy electron: 166 DPS 5x heavy ion: 174 DPS 5x heavy neutron: 184 DPS Maxed skills, from quickfit (no drones) 5 t2 Light Neutrons with Void - 194 Dps 5 t2 Med Electrons with Void - 288 Dps Least damageing medium guns do around 100dps more than most damaging light guns, dunno where you got those figures from.
Krulla	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:00:00 - [70] Originally by: Dario Wall If 150mm rails do so little damage to cruisers, why did Samirol and I win a 2vs3 against cruisers the other day? Like he said, most of the damage will be coming from the drones anyways... Uh. A thorax can do 500 dps. Without factoring drones into it. Last time I checked, 5 medium drones dno't do 500 dps. Tarkin > Omfg, frigs are such bs. Red 5 > lolol, lern 2 play plz noob SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY

Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:03:00 - [71] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/06/2006 16:04:56 My solo setup. Always works. 4x Med NOS, 1x Heavy Neutron . 10MN MWD, 7.5k Warp Scram, Web 2x Medium Armor Repper, Active Thermal/Kinetic/Explosive Hardener 5x Hammerheads. Lock, engage, get in range, wait until target pops. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Sha Xian	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:05:00 - [72] You get better DPS with 125mm, the range and dmg gain is so small, it doesn't compensate for the ammo catridge size. My First Movie \| My Second Movie
Kaffeine	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:24:00 - [73] Interesting setup Jenny, though I'd think the Vexor would be better suited for the nos/drone role. I'll have to try it though. Here's what I use atm: Highs: 5x heavy electron Mids: mwd cap booster scrambler (webber if in a group) Lows: magstab energized adaptive nano armor exp hardener damage control med rep Drones: 5x hammerheads The cap booster really helps. It'll allow you to tank longer than most setups in this thread.
Palx	Posted - 2006.06.05 17:17:00 - [74] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/06/2006 16:04:56 My solo setup. Always works. 4x Med NOS, 1x Heavy Neutron . 10MN MWD, 7.5k Warp Scram, Web 2x Medium Armor Repper, Active Thermal/Kinetic/Explosive Hardener 5x Hammerheads. Lock, engage, get in range, wait until target pops. zomg jenny fits a ship without stabs? :P
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.05 17:20:00 - [75] Originally by: Kaffeine ... You will have 99% win ratio because 99% targets will never expect this. Versus Vexors? Everyone expects a standard setup. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.05 17:21:00 - [76] Originally by: Palx Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/06/2006 16:04:56 My solo setup. Always works. 4x Med NOS, 1x Heavy Neutron . 10MN MWD, 7.5k Warp Scram, Web 2x Medium Armor Repper, Active Thermal/Kinetic/Explosive Hardener 5x Hammerheads. Lock, engage, get in range, wait until target pops. zomg jenny fits a ship without stabs? :P Gallentean ships not as efficient as Caldari ships in stab use. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Samirol	Posted - 2006.06.05 18:15:00 - [77] Edited by: Samirol on 05/06/2006 18:16:31 Originally by: Morrigan Starlover Originally by: Samirol Edited by: Samirol on 10/05/2006 00:45:35 Originally by: Tiberyya Za I'm a newbie. I really don't see how 5 light rails and 1600mm is gonna do anything but get me killed, slowly. QuickFit estimated DPS vs another Thorax, including drones. 5x light 150mm rails: 104 DPS 5x light neutron II: 162 DPS 5x heavy electron: 166 DPS 5x heavy ion: 174 DPS 5x heavy neutron: 184 DPS They have more range. There have been some fights where the 20km disruptor was enough to keep them from warping away. They stayed at about 10km but because I had the rails, i could keep shooting it down even after I lost my drones. Although it is slower, it works. I also have the heavy electron setup that works as well while retaining the 1600mm plate but it definitely more cap demanding than the 150mm rail setup. All in all...the 150s are generally easier to use. If you are more comfortable with the small or med blasters, good. 800 plates are just going to get you killed slightly slower than 400 plate setups, the 1600 is essential "Only problem is you don't have enough firepower to take out a cruiser setup for mission 2s. A missioner will have almost the same setup except with two cap rechargers where you are using scramblers. More than likely you will be the one warping out." Believe me...I have enough firepower to take out a missioning cruiser. The drones help a lot, and even if they go down, I will win the war of attrition. You would win the war of attrition vs a clone but with cap rechargers replacing the scramblers? Wow explain that one plz. I will last longer because of my sheer armor hp. And a cap injector is great where you can afford to fit/give up a scrambler/webber. I don't do many duels anymore so I might as well say that I use them always in duels in a rax. OREMONGERS
Benzmann	Posted - 2006.06.14 07:05:00 - [78] 5 x light neutrons 1 x 10mn mwd 1 x web 1 x 20km scrambler 1 x 1600mm plate 1 x medium armor rep II 2 x Energized adaptive nano plating II 1 x Power Diag. II Antimatter ammo and T2 medium drones http://vice.eve-killboard.net
Miss KillSome	Posted - 2006.06.14 09:12:00 - [79] can u state, what range u get on yours blasters? I've been in too many situations where enemy has web and orbiting at 10km, while my blasters did nothing.. even if u g8 camp, u run to guys, who have web fitted, u are toast in blasterax, coz u cant hit ****.. i use dual 150mm with antimmater..get around 8km optimal, always have another type of ammo in cargo..
Samirol	Posted - 2006.06.14 09:17:00 - [80] Originally by: Miss KillSome can u state, what range u get on yours blasters? I've been in too many situations where enemy has web and orbiting at 10km, while my blasters did nothing.. even if u g8 camp, u run to guys, who have web fitted, u are toast in blasterax, coz u cant hit **.. i use dual 150mm with antimmater..get around 8km optimal, always have another type of ammo in cargo.. i usually do good damage within 5km, and dual 150s will get toasted by many other setups unfortunately. I have high drone skills so I can usually work my way into range and the enemy is hurt badly. ORE MONGERS**

Traeon	Posted - 2006.06.14 10:17:00 - [81] Edited by: Traeon on 14/06/2006 10:20:41 Standard setup: 5x Heavy Electron 1x MWD, web, disruptor 1x Medium repairer, 800mm Plate, EANM, damage control or magstab, explosive hardener Needs Engineering and Electronics V. Web and disruptor must be named like on most thorax setups. Advanced weapon upgrades open up T2 equipment: AWU I: T2 medium repairer AWU III: T2 medium repairer, T2 heavy electrons AWU V: T2 medium repairer, T2 heavy electrons, T2 MWD Nice balance between tanking and damage dealing ability. Only weakness is the rather ****ty falloff of electron blasters, and multiple nosferatus are a serious threat.
Gatiep	Posted - 2006.06.25 11:19:00 - [82] Love this setup: x4 small neutron/ion blasters x 1 med nos x1 10mn mwd, x1 20km disruptor, x1 webifier x1 1600mm carbonized plate, x1 med repper, x 3 n-type hardeners exp/therm/kin i get 5139 armor hp @ 60/55/67.5/67.5 resists. the med nos allows for you to keep repairing. i could only fit this when i got engineering V and the hardeners should be n-type. alternatively if you want more cap, the webber can be switched for a cap recharger (wouldnt venture there tho), or switch one of the hardeners for a cap relay, or fit 2 nano's and a cap relay in the lows (Greatly reduced resists tho)
Alzion	Posted - 2006.06.26 15:23:00 - [83] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/06/2006 16:04:56 My solo setup. Always works. 4x Med NOS, 1x Heavy Neutron . 10MN MWD, 7.5k Warp Scram, Web 2x Medium Armor Repper, Active Thermal/Kinetic/Explosive Hardener 5x Hammerheads. Lock, engage, get in range, wait until target pops. Does that setup fit? seems like it would be short on powergrid. --------------------------------------------- I hear Linux can cure cancer and raise your sperm count. - Dionysus Davinci
Mysa	Posted - 2006.06.26 22:12:00 - [84] 4 x t2 150 w/javelin 1 x namned med nos 1 x mwd 1 x j5 1 x x5 1 x t2 small repper 1 x 1600 cristal/tungsten plate 1 x t2 eanm 1 x exp hardener 1 x t2 magstab 5 x t2 med scouts m-warp in and lock sucker down, load javelin and fire your drones. victim goes boom boom and u find ourself another target.. tooo sweat :) who shoot ya?
Guillame Herschel	Posted - 2006.06.26 23:21:00 - [85] Originally by: R31D Main reason for this setup is it allows you to fit medium guns to make use of the ships bonus while still have a nice tank ( I know some people hate not sticking to how their ship 'should' be fitted, so to speak). Ok, it won't hold up forever as it has no repair mechanism but all it requires is a low-SP alt to log on whilst your safespotted and then remote-rep you. Using a second account to make up for inability to fit the desired setup does not count as "using the ship the way it was designed." Using an alt this way is the same thing as buying isk off ebay. You are leveraging resources outside the game (your wallet) to gain an advantage in-game (a second set of modules slots, or isk without risk). /signed never uses an alt, ever
Guillame Herschel	Posted - 2006.06.26 23:27:00 - [86] Originally by: Mysa 5 x t2 150 w/javelin m-warp in and lock sucker down, Interesting. In my experience, this setup is not viable. Do you realize that each turret full of Javelin ammo gimps max velocity by 20%? And it stacks without penalty. Your ship will not move. Javelin is for BS and other already-slow ships. It turns them into a warp-in turret battery. :)
Scoundrelus	Posted - 2006.06.26 23:54:00 - [87] Edited by: Scoundrelus on 26/06/2006 23:55:02 editing =============================================== Don't say to me over a forum what you wouldn't say to my face.
Scoundrelus	Posted - 2006.06.27 04:53:00 - [88] Your Damage Oriented setup is horrible. Any ship with speed and range could kill that easily. You don't have a webber so any ship with an MWD can EASILY get out of your scram range, AND if you did cram an MWD on there then you'd just have capacitor issues, hell you'd even have capacitor issues WITHOUT the MWD. Your Tanking Oriented setup makes no sense to me. Tanking is cap reliant, and your ship has no capacitor style modules. No Cap Injector, no Cap power relay, no cap recharger? 20km scram and 7.5 km scram is just a waste. If your fast, fit a 7.5, if your slow fit a 20km. Not both. =============================================== Don't say to me over a forum what you wouldn't say to my face.
Tiddlywink	Posted - 2006.06.28 05:19:00 - [89] Originally by: R31D Edited by: R31D on 09/05/2006 20:09:07 Originally by: Yarrmageddon Originally by: R31D Edited by: R31D on 06/05/2006 08:38:51 5x Heavy Electron Blasters 1x MWD 1x Web 1x Scram 1x 1600mm Plate 1x RCU 2x Energized Adaptive Nano 1x Damage Control What fitting skills are needed for this setup? If your using t1 equipment only, you'll need Engineering lvl5, AWU lvl4 (Electronics lvl4 I think, but you should have lvl5 anyway) Oh, and for those that want a rep on this, drop one of the energized adaptives for a small rep I wish that would fit, but it won't for me, and I have electronics/engineering 5. The grid is just too tight. Also, I thought of tacking on 2 800mm plates instead of the 1600 and RCU, but I'm 3 grid short of making it work without dropping one of the electron blasters. It breaks my heart. I kinda feel bad but... HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 100 \| 30] Heavy Electron Blaster I - [ 100 \| 30] Heavy Electron Blaster I - [ 100 \| 30] Heavy Electron Blaster I - [ 100 \| 30] Heavy Electron Blaster I - [ 100 \| 30] Heavy Electron Blaster I MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 150 \| 50] 10MN MicroWarpdrive I - [ 1 \| 25] Stasis Webifier I - [ 1 \| 30] Warp Scrambler I LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [ 2 \| 25] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I - [ 2 \| 25] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I - [ 1 \| 25] Damage Control I - [ 200 \| 24] 800mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I - [ 30 \| 19] 400mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I DRONE BAY : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ valks and warriors
Hoseru Singh	Posted - 2006.07.06 13:42:00 - [90] Now keep in mind that I'm an Amarr/light energy specced charecter when you read this: Been playing around with a thorax recently, usually fly an arbitrator for solo PVP. Found this setup works pretty well, not as much damage with the guns, not as much tank as some Rax setups but.... 4x Medium Beam II (multifreq) 1x Medium NOS 1x Shadow Serpentis 10MN MWD 1x 7.5 Scram, named 1x Web, named 1x MAR II 1x EXP Hardener 2x EAN 1x Heat Sink II Drones: 5x (X) II Obviously not the most optimum setup for a Rax being lasers and all, but so far it's been fun to fly, and I haven't lost a fight yet.



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