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R31D	Posted - 2006.07.06 15:23:00 - [91] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: R31D Main reason for this setup is it allows you to fit medium guns to make use of the ships bonus while still have a nice tank ( I know some people hate not sticking to how their ship 'should' be fitted, so to speak). Ok, it won't hold up forever as it has no repair mechanism but all it requires is a low-SP alt to log on whilst your safespotted and then remote-rep you. Using a second account to make up for inability to fit the desired setup does not count as "using the ship the way it was designed." Using an alt this way is the same thing as buying isk off ebay. You are leveraging resources outside the game (your wallet) to gain an advantage in-game (a second set of modules slots, or isk without risk). /signed never uses an alt, ever It was only a suggestion - nothing stopping you from docking, fitting a rep and repairing that way. I was just offering an in-space alternative for those that would complain about the lack of a rep on that setup. Also, how come I get flamed for using an alt. It doesn't ruin the game, it certainly isn't like buying ISK off ebay. How the hell do I get ISK without RISK??? All I'm doing is not docking and fitting a med rep carried around in my hold to repair, I'm m#doing it whiklst waiting for aggro timer to go. I don't use the alt in combat or anything so I don't see where you're coming from. Free bumpage for all
RoZkUrWiAtoR	Posted - 2006.07.09 08:43:00 - [92] Edited by: RoZkUrWiAtoR on 09/07/2006 08:44:53 As a newbie i finally got my thorax after a few days of trial playing (which i think is one of the most beautiful ships in the game) and i started to wonder what kind of setup is the best for it (i mean which one fits my needs). I know i have to check this out for myself etc but for now i know for sure ill go for some med blasters Anyways the thing i want to ask is why no one is using shield extenders while they got no penalties?
Alliandre Breton	Posted - 2006.07.09 08:56:00 - [93] Originally by: RoZkUrWiAtoR Edited by: RoZkUrWiAtoR on 09/07/2006 08:44:53 As a newbie i finally got my thorax after a few days of trial playing (which i think is one of the most beautiful ships in the game) and i started to wonder what kind of setup is the best for it (i mean which one fits my needs). I know i have to check this out for myself etc but for now i know for sure ill go for some med blasters Anyways the thing i want to ask is why no one is using shield extenders while they got no penalties? Shield tanking a rax is both hard and kind of stupid.. if ur going for blasters you need a mwd and a webber and for pvp a scrambler is very handy even if ur in a gang, more points the better. So all mid slots are more or less used up. If you are new with low skill points and want to fly the rax I think 1600 + small guns is the way to go.
RoZkUrWiAtoR	Posted - 2006.07.09 09:10:00 - [94] Edited by: RoZkUrWiAtoR on 09/07/2006 09:10:37 So its all about the slots or there is another difference between shield and armor that i should know? Why its hard to use a shield on a rax?
FireMonk	Posted - 2006.07.09 09:59:00 - [95] My thorax set-up is:- Highs- 4x Heavy Ion Blaster IIs 1x Small Diminishing Nosferatu Meds- 10mn Overcharged Hydrocarbon MWD Fleeting Propulsion inhibitor webber 7.5km scrambler Lows- 400mm plate II 2x EANM IIs MAR II Mag Stab II You can easily replace all the expensive/t2 stuff with named t1, i.e I originally used anode ion blasters instead of t2. It should all fit even without advanced weapon upgrades tho it might need engineering 4/5. Where the EANM IIs are concerned, you can swap them out for the t1 variant OR you cn replace them with an explosive hardener and a thermal hardener. -----------------------
Shi Mun	Posted - 2006.07.09 10:00:00 - [96] Originally by: RoZkUrWiAtoR Edited by: RoZkUrWiAtoR on 09/07/2006 09:10:37 So its all about the slots or there is another difference between shield and armor that i should know? Why its hard to use a shield on a rax? Because the thorax only has 3 midslots, which tbh arent enough for a decent shield tank + the thorax has more in armour hp to start off with than shield hp. ------------------------------------------------------- Read my EW suggestions here:- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=304925&page=28
Hereric Miz	Posted - 2006.07.10 00:36:00 - [97] Edited by: Hereric Miz on 10/07/2006 00:36:11 My loadout is Hi-5 Ion Heavies I with antimatter Med- 10mn AB, 7.5km scram, webber Low- Med Rep I, Explosive and kinetic hardener Is, 2x cap relays Explosive and kinetic cos im in minmatar space
Zack K'Lorna	Posted - 2006.07.12 10:18:00 - [98] Edited by: Zack K''Lorna on 12/07/2006 10:18:28 Greetings everyone, Here is my T1 Thorax set-up: Hi-Slots; 5x Regulated Light Neutron Phase Cannon I with Anti-Matter Med-Slots; Stasis Webifier I Warp Disruptor I Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Low-Slots; Medium Inefficient Armor Repair Unit Energized Basic Thermic Plating Energized Basic Magnetic Plating Energized Basic Regenerative Plating 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Drones 5x Infiltrator I This is basicly an Anti-Frig set-up and can with-stand heavy fire from a swarm of them. The drones are mainly used to take down the shields becuase of their EM damage. But they help out during the Armor stages. It is also effective against larger ships with bigger guns becuase you can fire within 0m-3000m when Medium blasters/rails have a falloff of 1500m(ish)/5000m(ish.) With this set-up, You end up going 1216 m/s with an Armor of 5911 HP. ________________ Pwnability:
xStealthx	Posted - 2006.07.30 20:53:00 - [99] Edited by: xStealthx on 30/07/2006 20:54:00 Originally by: Samirol I will last longer because of my sheer armor hp. And a cap injector is great where you can afford to fit/give up a scrambler/webber. I don't do many duels anymore so I might as well say that I use them always in duels in a rax. Heh, he doesnt duel anymore Accepted a 1v1 rax vs rax challenge from Samirol, he owned me. Think i got him to about 1/2 his armor if that. My setup was... HI: 4x Heavy Electrons 1x Med NOS MID: 1x 10MN MWD 1x WEB 1x 20km scramble LOW: 1x Med Armor repper 1x RCU 1x Hybrid tracking upgrade (dont remember which one) the rest i dont remember, was a spare rax 5x Hammerhead I Guess my setup wasnt as good as i thought it was, and it wasnt tanking either. all in all, good fight Samirol. I'll be looking for a rematch soon. ::edit:: Forgot i had this alt, never use it anymore. Fight was with xSynnx
Rhamnousia Caldari Templars of Light Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.03 03:13:00 - [100] how bout: HI x3 heavy electron blasters x2 med nos (or swap around for 5 guns) MED x1 10mn MWD x1 webber x1 scrambler (20km) LOW x1 MAR x1 mag stab x2 energized adative nano x1 energized reactive nano drones: 5 hammerheads it's an easy gank setup, work both solo and in small gang, for every thorax i lose, i lose bout 1-2mil to replace or: HI x4 250mm rails (AM) MED x1 10mn AB x2 20km scrabmler LOW x1 800mm rolled tungsten (for the weight ratio) x2 energized adaptive nano (switch for best named plate if u hav CPU problm) x2 nanofiber drones: 5 hammerheads this setup is best for dmg in a small gang with a tank that not you :P .. orbit at optimal and keep AB up, transveral would be high enuf... this setup is a lil bit more expensive that the other one...whatever suit ur purpose works, tbph --------------------------------------- - yes, im a noob - yes, im a nut job - no, i dont give a .... about what u think of my noobness - now, tell me sumthing i dont know

Father Weebles Lost Dawn Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.03 03:57:00 - [101] its missing 1 med slot
Rizik Agra	Posted - 2006.08.04 11:23:00 - [102] Edited by: Rizik Agra on 04/08/2006 11:25:09 Edited by: Rizik Agra on 04/08/2006 11:23:32 I stopped playing EVE for a while (life is annoying), and I'd like to get more into PVP (solo to start with) when I play this time around. Before I left, I used this blasterrax setup: 5x heavy electrons 1x web \| 1x 10mn MWD \| 1x cap battery 1x med armor rep \| 1x adaptive nano membrane \| 1x active explosive hardener \| 2x cap power relay Now, obviously, the problem with this setup is that it has no scrambler! So its a "meh" setup when in a gang. To solo, I simply trade the cap battery for a 7.5km scrambler. The problem with that is that when fighting other cruisers (even when they don't have NOS) I have a MAJOR cap problem. My cap would run out in anywhere from 15- 30 seconds, and it ends up in wtfpwnage of me when my armor rep, web, and MWD turn off. Is there a good way to fix this setup or should I go back to the drawing board and start fresh? Edit: By the way, this was a relatively low-skill low-cost setup.
Jerick Ludhowe Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2006.08.04 12:33:00 - [103] Originally by: Rizik Agra Edited by: Rizik Agra on 04/08/2006 11:25:09 Edited by: Rizik Agra on 04/08/2006 11:23:32 I stopped playing EVE for a while (life is annoying), and I'd like to get more into PVP (solo to start with) when I play this time around. Before I left, I used this blasterrax setup: 5x heavy electrons 1x web \| 1x 10mn MWD \| 1x cap battery 1x med armor rep \| 1x adaptive nano membrane \| 1x active explosive hardener \| 2x cap power relay Now, obviously, the problem with this setup is that it has no scrambler! So its a "meh" setup when in a gang. To solo, I simply trade the cap battery for a 7.5km scrambler. The problem with that is that when fighting other cruisers (even when they don't have NOS) I have a MAJOR cap problem. My cap would run out in anywhere from 15- 30 seconds, and it ends up in wtfpwnage of me when my armor rep, web, and MWD turn off. Is there a good way to fix this setup or should I go back to the drawing board and start fresh? Edit: By the way, this was a relatively low-skill low-cost setup. Don't bother waisting three slots to try and make the Thorax cap efficient, junk gank it with a 800 or 1600 plate and hope for the best. Most cruisers you come across will pop in seconds, only have to worry about kiting ruptures really.
Tyler Casey	Posted - 2006.08.11 17:22:00 - [104] High: Light Neutron Blaster II x4 w/ Void Ammo Med Nos, preferably Med 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon Med: 10mn MWD Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor Patterned Stasis Wed, preferably 'Langour' Drive Disruptor Low: Med Arm Rep II, Med I-A Polarized if not skilled enough 1600mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates Armor Exp, Kin, Therm Hardeners Get on them quick and take them down. Some people talk bad about the 1600mm plates but I've never had a problem. This setup has worked extremely well for me. Enjoy!
N1NJ4	Posted - 2006.08.15 22:47:00 - [105] 5 x Heavy Electron II 1 x 10mn mwd 1 x web 1x 20km scram 1 x Med Armor Rep II 1 x 800mm plate II 1 x EANM II 1 x damage control 1 x Magnetic Field Stab. II 5 x Valkyrie II
Guillame Herschel Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.16 00:24:00 - [106] Originally by: Rizik Agra My cap would run out in anywhere from 15- 30 seconds, and it ends up in wtfpwnage of me when my armor rep, web, and MWD turn off. Ummm, maybe turn off the MWD when you have your target webbed and scrammed? Shouldn't need it then.
Maritz	Posted - 2006.08.21 01:47:00 - [107] Been playing since around March, 4 mill SP or so now, still love the rax, it's the only boat I really PVP in, and I'm still learning about how to fit the Domi. Most of the inspiration for this setup comes from the forums (natch). Highs, 2x Anode Neutron Blasters, 2x Anode Ion Blasters, Medium Nosferatu (Ghoul). Mids, 10MN MWD, x5 web, 7.5k scram Lows, 2x Small Armor Repair II, EANM II, Magnetic Stabilizer II and Emergency Damage Control. 5 drones (usually valks, not skilled in the T2 ones yet). With my skills I think it uses 1020 of 1025 grid or so.
Idara Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.21 01:53:00 - [108] Gonna give a T1 fitted Thorax a go tonight... 2x Heavy Neutron Blasters 3x Heavy Ion Blasters 1x 10mn MWD 1x Stasis Web 1x 20km scrammer 1x Medium armour rep 1x RCU 3x Mag Field Stabs 5x Valkyries...
Loka Gallente adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.21 07:17:00 - [109] Originally by: Idara Gonna give a T1 fitted Thorax a go tonight... 2x Heavy Neutron Blasters 3x Heavy Ion Blasters 1x 10mn MWD 1x Stasis Web 1x 20km scrammer 1x Medium armour rep 1x RCU 3x Mag Field Stabs 5x Valkyries... You will have better results with a 800mm or 1600mm plate. Big guns are for big ships. Use smaller guns and replace the RCU with a plate and you will love it. _________________________ Noob In Action - [NIA]
El Alamein Chosen Path	Posted - 2006.08.21 08:31:00 - [110] Edited by: El Alamein on 21/08/2006 08:32:14 Originally by: Idara Gonna give a T1 fitted Thorax a go tonight... 2x Heavy Neutron Blasters 3x Heavy Ion Blasters 1x 10mn MWD 1x Stasis Web 1x 20km scrammer 1x Medium armour rep 1x RCU 3x Mag Field Stabs 5x Valkyries... the problem with setups like this is your cap will die fast if you activate all those modules at once, expecially without no cap relay or nos, I almost got killed by a vagabond because of this fact.(what saved me was limping back with no cap and sporatic mwd bursts to a dominix) -----------------------------------

Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.08.21 08:34:00 - [111] Originally by: Idara Gonna give a T1 fitted Thorax a go tonight... 2x Heavy Neutron Blasters 3x Heavy Ion Blasters 1x 10mn MWD 1x Stasis Web 1x 20km scrammer 1x Medium armour rep 1x RCU 3x Mag Field Stabs 5x Valkyries... this will be utterly raped by a 1600 plate cruiser Tier 1 BS Lotto
Wintermoon Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.08.21 08:53:00 - [112] My setup (only to be flown in a gang with at least 1 dedicated ECM ship) 5 x heavy neutrons 10MN MWD, web, scram small rep, 3 x mag stabs, RCU. If you got the bling, upgrade to tech II as applicable. Does insane damage for the pricetag. It does not tank, no need to point it out.
Collypso Gallente Cygnus Alpha Syndicate Thundering Mantis	Posted - 2006.08.23 15:29:00 - [113] I use Hi: 4 t2 light neutrons (null ammo) 1 med nos Med: mwd scram web Low: Damage control 1600mm plate energized explosive resist energized adaptive resist med rep 5x Hammerhead I drones This fit can take down a bc and under ---------------------------------------------- God I hate my portrait
Jerick Ludhowe Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2006.08.23 15:35:00 - [114] Originally by: Collypso Hi: 4 t2 light neutrons (null ammo) 1 med nos Med: mwd scram web Low: Damage control 1600mm plate energized explosive resist energized adaptive resist med rep 5x Hammerhead I drones This fit can take down a bc and under You're going to have serious problems breaking the tank of any well setup BCs, let alone lasting long enough to kill it.
Jenstruant Fogg	Posted - 2006.08.23 16:39:00 - [115] Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe Originally by: Collypso Hi: 4 t2 light neutrons (null ammo) 1 med nos Med: mwd scram web Low: Damage control 1600mm plate energized explosive resist energized adaptive resist med rep 5x Hammerhead I drones This fit can take down a bc and under You're going to have serious problems breaking the tank of any well setup BCs, let alone lasting long enough to kill it. Please explain to me how a Thorax beats a BC?
Tyler Casey	Posted - 2006.08.24 17:39:00 - [116] I've taken down a couple of BC's in my Rax. Many are setup for long range battle with large guns that can't hit you if you're up close (within 2km) in a cruiser. If you can tank their drones then they will go down eventually
Jenstruant Fogg	Posted - 2006.08.24 17:43:00 - [117] Originally by: Tyler Casey I've taken down a couple of BC's in my Rax. Many are setup for long range battle with large guns that can't hit you if you're up close (within 2km) in a cruiser. If you can tank their drones then they will go down eventually 1) BC don't fit large guns 2) Jerick said "well setup"
darkmito	Posted - 2006.09.09 15:41:00 - [118] I use this setup for solo-pirating Highs: 4x Light Neutron Blaster II (Antimatter) 1x Medium Nosferatu Meds: 1x 10MN MWD 1x Webber 1x 7,5km Scrambler Lows: 1x Medium armor repper 2x EANM 1x Armor Expl. Hardener 1x 1600mm tritanium plate 5x Hammerhead II This will give you a nice tank with around 5k armor hp and also a good dmg output.
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.09.09 16:23:00 - [119] Originally by: darkmito I use this setup for solo-pirating Highs: 4x Light Neutron Blaster II (Antimatter) 1x Medium Nosferatu Meds: 1x 10MN MWD 1x Webber 1x 7,5km Scrambler Lows: 1x Medium armor repper 2x EANM 1x Armor Expl. Hardener 1x 1600mm tritanium plate 5x Hammerhead II This will give you a nice tank with around 5k armor hp and also a good dmg output. depending on your compensation skills, i would switch out the active hardener with a damage mod, just for an extra boost whiners Maybe not herpes, but I'll give ya goat!-Tirg
Ugluuk Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.09.09 21:10:00 - [120] What do most of you guys plan to kill? Are all setups just made for lasting long enough for your mates to come and rescue you? I thought it said: SOLO pvp setups..Not "last long enough for your mates to come" setups.. Samirol..I would love to take on you and your mate at the same time in my thorax.. If i die you get the setup from the killmail and loot..



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