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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.30 01:46:00 -
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My ridiculous fitting at our last corp cruiser PVP tournament caught a few by surprise...I'm not saying it'd be good for piracy, but it worked for me. Favourite moment was closing on a long range caracal laughing at his puny damage output leaving only the tinyest dent in the armour... :)
1 M Neutralizer 2 S NOS 2 S Ion blasters
MWD Web (any) Scramble (any)
1 M Repper 1 RCU 1600mm plate 400mm plate 1 cap relay
2 lots of light drones - to avoid losing my DPS completely after people targetted drones...In fact them targetting drones helped me as it gave me time to drain them...Most people were drained before I got to 50% armour!
Ironically the only thing that beat me was a Thorax with more NOS and tech 2 drones (he knew my setup beforehand), which made me think of using another RCU instead of a cap relay next time and whopping M NOS on there, but as yet that's untried.
Rubbish I hear you all cry!!! Just try it and see...And it'll get even better in Kali with the plate boosts! |

Heartsock
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Posted - 2006.11.06 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Heartsock on 06/11/2006 17:44:04 This setup is for anyone that wants to be able to solo pvp like a pro, you can easily win a 2 on 1, hell even 3 cruisers on 1 with this setup, i know i have...
Highs: 5*150mm Railgun II's
Mids 10mn afterburner II 20k scram Medium cap booster with 800 charges
Lows: F85 Peripheal Damgage control 2*Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II's 1600mm rolled tungsten plate ( don't bother with t2, not worth the speed penalty.) Medium Armor Rep II
I also reccomend having 5 Hammerhead II's in your drone bay.
With this setup you can really take a beating and deal some nice damage, hence the T2 drones, you should also have atleast drone interfacing to lvl 4.
And if you do not believe me, check out this video http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/ionmaiden/Thorax_Vs_Caracal,_Blackbird_and_Vexor.wmv
(Note that at the time i was only using t1 membranes)

Btw i have no idea why i posted this with my alts pic, was meant to be my main, Ionmaiden :P
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The MelonMan
Caldari Tactical Enterprise Group LTD The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:09:00 -
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ok not sure if this has been posted yet but it is prob the best thorax setup you can use.
5x small t2 neutrons 10mn mwd 20k scram med cap injector with 400s or 800s
1600 plate mar II 2 eanm 1 energized explosive hardener
5x hammerhead IIs (or Is if your cheap)
This will tear through the competition and last longer with the 1600 plate and resistances all above 50. If i was to go at a t2 med gun thorax id still win.
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Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.15 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Shardrael on 15/11/2006 03:34:51
Originally by: Vyktor Abyss My ridiculous fitting at our last corp cruiser PVP tournament caught a few by surprise...I'm not saying it'd be good for piracy, but it worked for me. Favourite moment was closing on a long range caracal laughing at his puny damage output leaving only the tinyest dent in the armour... :)
1 M Neutralizer 2 S NOS 2 S Ion blasters
MWD Web (any) Scramble (any)
1 M Repper 1 RCU 1600mm plate 400mm plate 1 cap relay
ironically this is the same idea as my vexor and I must say I do love the style, its murder on anything but a passive shield tanking missle spewer
Originally by: Pinky Denmark
Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
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Katrina Coreli
Vindication Angels
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Posted - 2006.11.16 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Katrina Coreli on 16/11/2006 16:09:52
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/06/2006 16:04:56
My solo setup. Always works.
4x Med NOS, 1x Heavy Neutron . 10MN MWD, 7.5k Warp Scram, Web 2x Medium Armor Repper, Active Thermal/Kinetic/Explosive Hardener 5x Hammerheads.
Lock, engage, get in range, wait until target pops. 
Just trying to get this to fit in Quick Fit. My skills arnt great but in about 150 short of pg alone and thats assuming that blaster is small. What Whats the secret?
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Lord Vigil
Amarr LEGION OF DEATHADDERS
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:09:00 -
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Ok Question.
I just setup my Throax as so:
HI: 5 Heavy Electron Blasters - AM
MED: 10MWD 7.5 Scram Fleeting Web
LOW: MAR 2 MAGS DC 800MM Plate
It does great damage and can hold up for a while. I just tested it with a friend. But the moment he webbed me back and NOS'd me it was over. Should I put a cap booster on? Or what would be the best way to counter NOS, range? FYI my Corp Mate was in a BS. I don't plan on going against a BS when soloing, but feel that once some has the NOS on me it will be the same outcome.
All suggestions welcome.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Crimson Knights Trade Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:30:00 -
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I find that 3-Nos/2-Guns works well.. Destroys your opponents tanking ability pretty handily.. Most other cruisers will only have 2 Nos at most, so you keep ahead of the game.. Thing is you need to find something to do with all that cap you're sucking.. Either do a Med+Small repper, or swap the web for something else that can deny your opponent or help you tank.. Obviously, it's not that great of a build if you run into something that doesn't use alot of cap..
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Darius Thrain
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Posted - 2006.11.17 23:24:00 -
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I can see a few setup with small blaster without web... Doesn't work. It depends a lot what are you up against. In PvP a lot of explosive dmg is done too. Here is my ~9mill rax which is pretty similar as most others... You get most of the money back from insurance so this is really cheap and easy to replace.
5 x medium electrons
MWD 7.5km scrambler webber
800mm crystal plate active expl hardener EAN DC MAR II
10xlight drones
Light drones because then you can launch new ones if they start to blow up. Light drones are also better against small and fast targets. DPS is a bit higher with mediums, but after you lose 2 meds your dps is the same as with 5 lights.
Medium blasters t1 are better than small t2 ones because your true dps is higher due to higher dmg from wrecking hits etc. And you get dmg bonus.
You will run out of cap fairly quickly so hope you have killed your target before that. There is no perfect general setup, but there can be excellent setups specialized in certain jobs or targets.
For example if you are belt pirating where NPCers are hunting serpentis you can expect them to have hi thermal and kinetic resists. If your target is flying a gallente ship you can assume that he/she has blasters/rails (thermal and kinetic dmg). Prepare for this...
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D4rk Star
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:28:00 -
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I for one like a decent tank and as much damage possible with that tank. So how about this setup?
HIGH: 5x Dual 150mm
MED: AB II; 20km scrambler; medium cap booster
LOW: 1x Med Repairer II 1x Thermal/Kinetic Hardener 2x Explosive Hardener 1x 800mm crystaline plate
5x t2 med drones
I have like 4,3k of armour, good explosive resist with the cap sustained by the booster. And the med guns with the drones do about 150 dps as quickfit says with t1 named rails.
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D4rk Star
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: D4rk Star on 30/12/2006 21:54:20 That setup is a lie. Here is a close match to that idea:
high: 3x Med NOS 1x small neutralizer (equals another med nos) 1x Heavy Ion Med: mwd, scrambler/20km disruptor, webber Low: 1x Med repper; 1x Small Repper: 3x specific hardeners
6 PG left with engineering V. Let us know how it works
Originally by: Katrina Coreli Edited by: Katrina Coreli on 16/11/2006 16:09:52
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/06/2006 16:04:56
My solo setup. Always works.
4x Med NOS, 1x Heavy Neutron . 10MN MWD, 7.5k Warp Scram, Web 2x Medium Armor Repper, Active Thermal/Kinetic/Explosive Hardener 5x Hammerheads.
Lock, engage, get in range, wait until target pops. 
Just trying to get this to fit in Quick Fit. My skills arnt great but in about 150 short of pg alone and thats assuming that blaster is small. What Whats the secret?
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benzss
Gallente The Peoples Republic of Power
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Posted - 2007.01.08 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: benzss on 08/01/2007 15:45:39 I found this to be useful, particularly for its survivability and ability to tie an opponent down, and it's an efficient fit if your character isn't of particularly high skill:
Thorax
Heavy Ion Blaster I [120xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [120xAntimatter Charge M] Anode Electron Particle Cannon I [200xAntimatter Charge M] Anode Electron Particle Cannon I [200xAntimatter Charge M] Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Shield Booster I or a Warp Scrambler 10MN MicroWarpdrive I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Reactor Control Unit I 800mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Small Armor Repairer I
Vespa I Vespa I Vespa I Vespa I Vespa I
it strikes a balance, 'though some might say that it isn't specific enough; so this is just a general setup.
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MirandasRight
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Posted - 2007.01.14 20:09:00 -
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Ummm...why the heck do you bother with a med shield booster? Just forgo that and stick the warp scram there. Shield tanking a Gallente ship... 
Originally by: benzss Edited by: benzss on 08/01/2007 15:45:39 I found this to be useful, particularly for its survivability and ability to tie an opponent down, and it's an efficient fit if your character isn't of particularly high skill:
Thorax
Heavy Ion Blaster I [120xAntimatter Charge M] Heavy Ion Blaster I [120xAntimatter Charge M] Anode Electron Particle Cannon I [200xAntimatter Charge M] Anode Electron Particle Cannon I [200xAntimatter Charge M] Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Shield Booster I or a Warp Scrambler 10MN MicroWarpdrive I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Reactor Control Unit I 800mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Small Armor Repairer I
Vespa I Vespa I Vespa I Vespa I Vespa I
it strikes a balance, 'though some might say that it isn't specific enough; so this is just a general setup.
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Kano Sekor
Amarr S-44 Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.01.17 09:12:00 -
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I see some people posting set ups using AB:s instead of MWD:s i dont get why and wont this be bad cause youre not using the Thorax:s bonus f÷r mwds?
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Kaiene
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Posted - 2007.01.26 12:36:00 -
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Would anyone have any idea's of how to turn this into some sort of PvP support ship or would you suggest a completely different ship? I like the idea of being in support as I hav'nt done any PvP before and I think it will be a nice insight.
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AsfALT
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.01.26 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kaiene Would anyone have any idea's of how to turn this into some sort of PvP support ship or would you suggest a completely different ship? I like the idea of being in support as I hav'nt done any PvP before and I think it will be a nice insight.
Just fit some rails to snipe and fill the drone bay with med repairer drones.
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Kybers
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Posted - 2007.01.26 15:35:00 -
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Here's mine... from memory... 5 Modal Ion Cannons - or summert like that.. 10MN MWD Scram- Fleeting I think X5 Webber Active Thermal & Exp hardeners 1 MFS 1 Sm Arm Rep DCU 5 Hheads
I like to play the 'white knuckle ride into orbiting range & then unload in their faces.' I've not had much of a chance of trying this out, but I dont think it'll last long. Would ECM Drones help? Just to keep them off my back until I get in range.
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Ice Conch
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Posted - 2007.01.28 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kano Sekor I see some people posting set ups using AB:s instead of MWD:s i dont get why and wont this be bad cause youre not using the Thorax:s bonus f÷r mwds?
thoraxes dont get a bonus to mwds, mwds just use less cap. If you dont have the pg to fit a mwd, you should put an afterburner on
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Red Crown
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Posted - 2007.02.09 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Red Crown on 09/02/2007 18:06:18 I just fit this up for a test run and killed a Maelstorm class battleship with a 1.5 year pilot (3 month here, ish).
Highs - 4X Light Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter S Ammunition 1X [Named] Medium Nos
Mids - 10MN MWD 20KM Scrammer -90% Webber
5X Hammerheads (I use tech 1 for now)
Lows - 1600MM Rolled Tungsten Plate Damage Control Unit II (DCU II) 2X Magnetic Vortex Stabalizer I 1X Small Armor Repair II (SAR II)
3 words - Tank n' Gank. I have decent skills. This fits with engineer 4 and electronics 4. I have roughly 7K Armor HP. I am not slowed down much by the plate, the best named plate is not only better than the tech 2 plate, it is also the lightest available.
Light Neutrons do Hella damage. Even without tech 2 ammo. Don't be scared by the tech 2 label, it takes small turrets 5 + the small blaster specalization skill to use. I haven't tested it, but they say they do out DPS standard medium electrons.
Med Nos is a must. My capacitor ran dry during the fight. The small blasters do not take much cap, you should be able to sustain them.
The DCU will save your life. This thing may not be a passive tank, but if you get eaten through your armor, the DCU kicks in.
2 Damage mods = 7.7X Damage Modifier on the guns and a rate of fire of around 2.2 seconds a burst.
SAR II is fine. Doesn't eat cap or powergrid, will help you sustain.
Works solo, great in groups, etc.
Note : Original idea by The Mittani of Goons, tweaked a bit by me.
Edit: Typo
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Gallentis III
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Posted - 2007.02.18 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Gallentis III on 18/02/2007 12:02:20 Hi, Fairly new to eve but running a nice ThoraxI am confused between MWD and AB II which would be better and why please?
5 x 150mm rails I
1 x 10MN AB II Tracking Computer
Med Armor Rep II 800mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates I Reactor control unit I Damage control I Nanofiber Internal Structure I
Any help on above would be appreciated. I know i am missing a fitting on 1 medium slot i maybe using a statis webifier today.
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Katrina Coreli
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.18 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gallentis III Edited by: Gallentis III on 18/02/2007 12:02:20 Hi, Fairly new to eve but running a nice ThoraxI am confused between MWD and AB II which would be better and why please?
5 x 150mm rails I
1 x 10MN AB II Tracking Computer
Med Armor Rep II 800mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates I Reactor control unit I Damage control I Nanofiber Internal Structure I
Any help on above would be appreciated. I know i am missing a fitting on 1 medium slot i maybe using a statis webifier today.
Afterburners give a small speed boost for a small amount of cap (comparitivly) and there are no downsides. However MWDs have massive cap ussage but give a massive speed boost but make you easier to hit.
ABs are good for staying out of range with a rails setup so you should be fine with an AB.
However you *nead* a warp disruptor on there cause this is a PvP thread. With decent enough skills that tracking comp is a waste of a slot, prehaps put a web in there or even a cap inecjtor.
The lows are all fine apart from the Nano Fibre which is a waste of a slot, try a damage mod or annother tank mod in there instead.
Hope this helps
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Gallentis III
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Posted - 2007.02.19 22:21:00 -
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Yes that did help many thanx, I am hoping to move up to a BS in a couple of weeks. I was wondering what ammo you guys use with your 150mm small rails? I am not doing PVP bit early for that but just incase i got jumped on what ammo is best? I am just looking at the technical side of this for my interest. Almost got Hull Upgrades level 4 so will fit some more hardener? Thanx
Originally by: Katrina Coreli
Originally by: Gallentis III Edited by: Gallentis III on 18/02/2007 12:02:20 Hi, Fairly new to eve but running a nice ThoraxI am confused between MWD and AB II which would be better and why please?
5 x 150mm rails I
1 x 10MN AB II Tracking Computer
Med Armor Rep II 800mm reinforced rolled tungsten plates I Reactor control unit I Damage control I Nanofiber Internal Structure I
Any help on above would be appreciated. I know i am missing a fitting on 1 medium slot i maybe using a statis webifier today.
Afterburners give a small speed boost for a small amount of cap (comparitivly) and there are no downsides. However MWDs have massive cap ussage but give a massive speed boost but make you easier to hit.
ABs are good for staying out of range with a rails setup so you should be fine with an AB.
However you *nead* a warp disruptor on there cause this is a PvP thread. With decent enough skills that tracking comp is a waste of a slot, prehaps put a web in there or even a cap inecjtor.
The lows are all fine apart from the Nano Fibre which is a waste of a slot, try a damage mod or annother tank mod in there instead.
Hope this helps
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Shiv Ertai
Gallente Direct Intent The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:22:00 -
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Another alternative based off the first ship is:
5x 150mm railguns
mwd 20k scram cap injector (800s)
mar 1600mm plate 2x istab 1x nanofiber
5x hammerheads (unless killing caldari lowsec ratters when you want to pwn their 0% em resists with infiltrators )
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Samirol
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shiv Ertai Another alternative based off the first ship is:
5x 150mm railguns
mwd 20k scram cap injector (800s)
mar 1600mm plate 2x istab 1x nanofiber
5x hammerheads (unless killing caldari lowsec ratters when you want to pwn their 0% em resists with infiltrators )
nanogunships are absolute crap IMO...
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Shiv Ertai
Gallente Direct Intent The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.02.20 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Shiv Ertai Another alternative based off the first ship is:
5x 150mm railguns
mwd 20k scram cap injector (800s)
mar 1600mm plate 2x istab 1x nanofiber
5x hammerheads (unless killing caldari lowsec ratters when you want to pwn their 0% em resists with infiltrators )
nanogunships are absolute crap IMO...
Hence the use of frigate sized guns. Orbiting at 1500+m/s vs cruisers/battlecruisers works like a charm. The 150mm rails hit fine at 17km in optimal. The ship stays out of medium nos range and generally dictates range in the engagement. It can also usually get out of dodge if things turn ugly.
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Samirol
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.24 05:00:00 -
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Updated to be more correct
Originally by: High Sierra note to self - don't ever provide ANYONE with quoteable material EVER AGAIN.
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Bacarday
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Posted - 2007.02.24 05:28:00 -
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ok.. friend on a 14 day trial as a gallante combat pilot. given that he has limited skills, and that i will be alongside in a stabber or jag with scram/web what do you all suggest for the mid slots?
My possible thoughts..
-2x cap recharger ... not flashy but with guns and repper he will need cap
-sensor booster with warp disruptor... every second counts..
-extra web/scram... wouldn't hurt, especially for inty's and miners/transports with lots of stabs or if we encounter 2 people and want to split up
Leaning away from sensor damps, ECM, tracking disruptors, etc...
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Samirol
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.24 05:30:00 -
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if he really needs cap badly, cap recharger and a warp disruptor. otherwise i would stick with a disruptor/webber
tell him to remember not to keep his repairer and mwd on all the time as well
Originally by: High Sierra note to self - don't ever provide ANYONE with quoteable material EVER AGAIN.
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uberjun3n
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Posted - 2007.03.11 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: uberjun3n on 11/03/2007 10:41:09 literaly, it pains me to read most of these kits, if u want a drone ship with a plate FLY A VEXOR they get a massive bonus to drones
a rax is not a noob ship, the skills required to make it work are insane. But if u get it right it can rape, ANYTHING. Even post revelation gank > tank, if u are good enough they will still be wondering who attacked them as they respawn in a shiny new body. Therefore: 4 X T2 ion blaster 1 X Med nos
1 X Mwd (if u fly a rax, fly it fast, u dont see people tanking stabbers) 1 X Web 1 X warp diruptor (fit a scram if u want, but how often do u warp to within 7.5km of some1?)
1 x T2 Med armour rep 1 X t2 rcu 1 X damage control 2 x assorted mods, (whatever u want, i generaly go for exp hardener and an adaptive nano or a power diag)
this is the bones, switch mods for named ones as much as u want, MAKE IT SHINIER!!!
Now some1 will come on and say- plates ftw!! dps is not a requirement... well, in this ship i have solo'd a myrmidon and broken the tank of a fully passive t2 drake. but honestly, i have not lost a 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2 in this ship, and although some people go pirating in big groups only the saying goes: pirating is like sex more fun with 2 people but u do it more on your own
anyway, as food for thought would u rather have fun with an awesome gank ship and lose it occasionaly, or noob around in a slow hippo like thing, not ever killing anything cos u cant break their tank? (by that i mean boring pvp) no offence but if u are fitting rails, u should be missioning. and if u want to use drones the vexor is the own
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Kainite M'alachi
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Posted - 2007.03.17 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Kainite M''alachi on 17/03/2007 20:07:10 Edited by: Kainite M''alachi on 17/03/2007 20:06:47
Originally by: uberjun3n Edited by: uberjun3n on 11/03/2007 10:41:09 literaly, it pains me to read most of these kits, if u want a drone ship with a plate FLY A VEXOR they get a massive bonus to drones
a rax is not a noob ship, the skills required to make it work are insane. But if u get it right it can rape, ANYTHING. Even post revelation gank > tank, if u are good enough they will still be wondering who attacked them as they respawn in a shiny new body. Therefore: 4 X T2 ion blaster 1 X Med nos
1 X Mwd (if u fly a rax, fly it fast, u dont see people tanking stabbers) 1 X Web 1 X warp diruptor (fit a scram if u want, but how often do u warp to within 7.5km of some1?)
1 x T2 Med armour rep 1 X t2 rcu 1 X damage control 2 x assorted mods, (whatever u want, i generaly go for exp hardener and an adaptive nano or a power diag)
this is the bones, switch mods for named ones as much as u want, MAKE IT SHINIER!!!
Now some1 will come on and say- plates ftw!! dps is not a requirement... well, in this ship i have solo'd a myrmidon and broken the tank of a fully passive t2 drake. but honestly, i have not lost a 1 vs 1 or 1 vs 2 in this ship, and although some people go pirating in big groups only the saying goes: pirating is like sex more fun with 2 people but u do it more on your own
anyway, as food for thought would u rather have fun with an awesome gank ship and lose it occasionaly, or noob around in a slow hippo like thing, not ever killing anything cos u cant break their tank? (by that i mean boring pvp) no offence but if u are fitting rails, u should be missioning. and if u want to use drones the vexor is the own
i liked this setup but i just changed the med rep and rcu for 2 x t2 small reps .. same amount of total boost as you get from 1 med just more frequent little boosts seemed to make sence to me. the rest of the setup the same :)
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Fluffernator
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Posted - 2007.03.17 21:19:00 -
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LOL, Kiting your target with 150mm rails? You assume everyone uses short range guns? LOL, only ship thats gonna kite is a blaster boat. Trust me, if you want to be a kite ***** use a moa.
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