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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:37:00 -
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It should be way simpler than that, really.
Inactive characters should never ever be deleted after any time period what so ever. Not even trials. Simple as.
However there are a LOT of characters out there who are not returning to the game with 100% certainty. Namely those who are banned permanently and those who are biomassed.
While both situations should remove a character from the game completely, all it does is place them in a special 'dead player corp'. This is fun for nostalgia sake of course, but keeps all those fun and clever names locked up until the end of time. What would be the problem in permanently deleting those characters from the system after x amount of time? Like say, 2 years? The character is deleted, the name opens up, everyone is happy. Put a big fat 'this is a new character' sticker in their bio and be done with it.
With corp names it should basically be the same. No active corp should ever be closed because of inactivity. But there are plenty of closed player corps with good names that someone else may want after a given time. A closed corp's name should become available for use again after a set amount of time and maybe special conditions.
In any case, the current system isn't really working. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3080
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:01:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:
In any case, the current system isn't really working.
Yes it is
The current system is:
You arent allowed the same name as another entity
And you can't, its mechanically impossible *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1740
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:18:00 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:In an ideal world, yes.
Chafes my OCD too, I think they have a cream for that. But yeah. Kill the dead corps. Finding a ticker that isn't taken is a b***h
I got "Bad Touches" and the ticker TCHU on the first try. It was literally the first corp and ticker I thought of. Just lucky I guess. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
625
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:44:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:1. inactive players which never subscribed from their trial are deleted from the system permanently after 1 year. No problem with this.
Caleb Seremshur wrote:2. corporations automatically suffer a tax to remain open and 'valid', which is tied to the corp at the time of their creation from an office - those who don't pay are automatically annulled and the corp is freed for re-birth somewhere else. You could try using some creativity and coming up with an original name instead of trying to copy names from books/movies/other. Also; Names have reputations attached to them, even if the corp in question has been dead for 8 year. Letting random mongoloids reuse old names because they're too dumb to come with a new one would be a waste.
Caleb Seremshur wrote:4. POS remain in space as they're actually attackable How exactly do you attack a high-sec pos belonging to a deleted corp that cannot be wardecced? You thought this through real well... 
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
373
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:31:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name 
For me the problem has always been tickers... there are only so many to work with given the limits.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3082
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:37:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name  For me the problem has always been tickers... there are only so many to work with given the limits.
Including only alphanumeric characters there are 916,132,832 possible tickers available. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
275
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:58:00 -
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If only there was a "features and ideas" forum to discuss this in......ohhh wait there is...... |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2455
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:03:00 -
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Day 1: Spy alt created, infiltrates target company, AWOXes everything in sight. Tears collected, alt is biomassed, as per standard ritual.
Day 366: CCP resets name so that it can be used again. New player grabs the name. Gains ten billion bounty before ever undocking because that name has been on an Alliance executor's watch list the entire time, finds self hounded through all of low/null by "vengeance fleets" and has no idea why.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5069
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:13:00 -
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I started a new character the other day. I was disappointed that I couldn't name it Erotica 1.
+1 for deleting inactive accounts.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3086
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:15:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Day 1: Spy alt created, infiltrates target company, AWOXes everything in sight. Tears collected, alt is biomassed, as per standard ritual.
Day 366: CCP resets name so that it can be used again. New player grabs the name. Gains ten billion bounty before ever undocking because that name has been on an Alliance executor's watch list the entire time, finds self hounded through all of low/null by "vengeance fleets" and has no idea why.
That would be HIGH-larious but yeah that would be bad
*** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
232
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:20:00 -
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Give people a reason to log in. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1740
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:24:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:So, is it a Star Trek or Babylon 5 name that you want to free up for your corp? He's just having a sad because someone else already took Darth Vader 
Someone has Darth Sploder too.... also Darth Trocious... but I'm not mad about that because its me :) I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1740
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:35:00 -
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What I like best about OPs plan is knowing about all the unsubbed titans. Talk about a titanomachy. Death to supers indeed. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
365
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:17:00 -
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Just to clarify the OP, trial accounts who never subbed ARE infact subject to deletion, I started one in 07 and upon coming back in 09 had to create a new account . May I remind you this is in fact simply a game and that given the amount of time it takes to accumulate anything, deletion of inactive players is not an option. I again took a two year stint from eve for uni, but by your logic my characters, their assets, and corp should be subject to deletion just so you can have a corp name. Be creative enough to create your own and stop ranting...which is after all against forum rules. |

Varesk
Carried Hate
540
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:27:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:It's not a new idea anymore - this is the general discussion of something that's been around for years and years.
As you have stated this discussion has been around for years and years. You should read those other threads about this topic and see what CCP has said about this "issue". It would have stopped you from making another thread about a topic, which you describe as, "Kicking a dead horse". |

Thorus Gallen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.04.05 21:41:00 -
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I came back after being out of game for 6 years and was pretty happy to see all my stuff was still all my stuff. If I had to start all over.... I dunno. Might not have. |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
377
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Posted - 2014.04.05 22:53:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name  For me the problem has always been tickers... there are only so many to work with given the limits. Including only alphanumeric characters there are 916,132,832 possible tickers available.
I like my ticker to be revenant to the full name and not some random stuff. But thanks for playing.
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DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan
50
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:09:00 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote: Finding a ticker that isn't taken is a b***h Additional ticker length can fix that. License plates had a similar issue they solved by adding a digit to max length. ref: http://themusegarden.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/the-license-plate-problem-combinationspermutations/
Quote:GÇ£I wonder how many ways there are to create a unique license plate given an alphabet a and a format for the plate?GÇ¥ LetGÇÖs go through and figure this out.
First, define the alphabet. That is, the possibilities for each character that we can put on our license plate. For this example, letGÇÖs use 0-9 and A-Z. There are 10 digits and 26 letters so that gives us an alphabet of 36 characters. (a=36)
The next thing we will do is define the format for the plates in question. Assume that a license plate, for simplicityGÇÖs sake, can have 6 characters, either numbers or letters. LetGÇÖs first figure out how many possibilities for a license plate with only one character there are. There are 36 characters in our alphabet, so there are 36 possibilities for one GÇ£columnGÇ¥. Now there are also 36 choices for each of the remaining five spaces. So we have to do 36*36*36*36*36*36. ThatGÇÖs one time for each of the spaces. To write that simpler, we can generalize this to a^c, where a is the alphabet size and c is the number of characters on each GÇ£plateGÇ¥.
Now, this problem was assuming that we could repeat characters on a license plate. For instance, this assumes that 333333 could be a valid license plate. What if we had a rule that we couldnGÇÖt repeat characters?
The first column remains at 36 possibilities, but when we get to the second column, weGÇÖve already used one of our characters and we canGÇÖt repeat, so we only have 35. Then we have 34 for the next column. So for this weGÇÖll need to use a factorial (!). However, since we have 36 characters and only 6 spots, we will still have 31 possibilities even in the last spot. We donGÇÖt need the whole factorial. Thus, we will use only a!/(a-c)! where a is the alphabet size and c is the number of GÇ£columnsGÇ¥ on the license plate.
Hope this was a good simple combinatorics problem and displays a way that a mathematical principle can be used in a real life problem. Thus, an extra character/digit increases 60,466,176 mil possible corp tickers to a possible 2,176,782,336 corp tickers. [using above example, multiiply 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 = 2.176 bil] So simple fix: add 1 extra character/digit to corp ticker... if in fact this is a problem.
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Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
143
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:59:00 -
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DetKhord Saisio wrote:... if in fact this is a problem.
It isn't, as there are nowhere near that many corps.
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Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
220
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:24:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Day 1: Spy alt created, infiltrates target company, AWOXes everything in sight. Tears collected, alt is biomassed, as per standard ritual.
Day 366: CCP resets name so that it can be used again. New player grabs the name. Gains ten billion bounty before ever undocking because that name has been on an Alliance executor's watch list the entire time, finds self hounded through all of low/null by "vengeance fleets" and has no idea why.
"content"
a lone newbie, hated by the entire game and hunted whereever he goes
sounds like the plot of several movies and other video games doesn't it. The mystery of finding out what his previous incarnation did could be worth his while.
morrowind
Or he could just quit which he is statistically 92% inclined to do after all. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
220
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:26:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:4. POS remain in space as they're actually attackable How exactly do you attack a high-sec pos belonging to a deleted corp that cannot be wardecced? You thought this through real well... 
Wardecs are paid to CONCORD. In much the same way that POCOs in highsec were made free game, inactive corp towers become interbus property and can be decced/destroyed.
game set and match. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3244
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:26:00 -
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Inactive players aren't a huge issue, but they could certainly toast inactive corporations. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan
57
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:55:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Inactive players aren't a huge issue, but they could certainly toast inactive corporations. ^This. If you ask me, a corporation with 12 months inactivity is enough time for removal from corporation rosters. Purge those inactive placeholders.
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Creedeth
Yolo Corp Many Reckless Corps
11
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:20:00 -
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Deletion of trial accounts after a certain amount of time I can agree to. This would be no loss for anyone as the accounts are in fact never customers, and they can just start a new trial if they ever want to try again.
Removing corps tho, is a much more complex question. I suggest a 2m fee per month for each corp (simliar to alliances). Any corp assets are transfered to CEO at corp termination (no money for the fee). |

Hopelesshobo
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
221
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:28:00 -
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Instead of deleting the accounts outright, a better solution would be to move the inactive characters and corps to a different database, that when accessed by someone returning to the game, would check the names to see if they are currently in use.
If the names are not in use then the server would move the characters back over to the primary database.
If the names are now currently in use, the user would be prompted to change the name of their character. This would be the only practical solution. However being that people could then use this to recreate their character names without consequence, CCP would have to add a name history tab next to employment history. Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
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