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Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:52:00 -
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So it's that time again. Reasons have been posted a million times so here they are in bullet-point format.
- game has over 5.5 million registered accounts.
- only 8% of those accounts are active.
- corporations created by those dead accounts remain 'valid' for all time, no matter how long the account has been unsubbed.
- No way to oust or close those corporations unless the owning player re-subs and dissolves it.
It's really not a complex wish-list. 1. inactive players which never subscribed from their trial are deleted from the system permanently after 1 year. 2. corporations automatically suffer a tax to remain open and 'valid', which is tied to the corp at the time of their creation from an office - those who don't pay are automatically annulled and the corp is freed for re-birth somewhere else. 3. players which have their corporations annulled have all hangers and associated corporate assets deleted from the game. 4. POS remain in space as they're actually attackable
Any further suggestions or C&C please. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Salvos Rhoska
988
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Posted - 2014.04.05 08:02:00 -
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In an ideal world, yes.
But practically I think CCP shareholders would scream at the resulting figures.
Chafes my OCD too, but inactive are, well, inactive, so not of any actual consequence. ------------ |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
216
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Posted - 2014.04.05 08:09:00 -
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They have a measurable consequence - tying up ""IP"" in dead players.
Get rid of them. 4.1 million accounts can be deleted with no consequence, as you said, and kill all their stupid 1-man inactive corps while you're at it too. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
129
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Posted - 2014.04.05 08:14:00 -
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I like how people throw around "no consequences", just because it has no consequences... to themselves.
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Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
216
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Posted - 2014.04.05 08:24:00 -
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Okay since you're the proposing there are consequences mind listing a few? Make sure you only address the points raised so far! No putting words in my mouth! LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Jim Era
8511
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Posted - 2014.04.05 08:42:00 -
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stuff 'n things WatGäó |

Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
101
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Posted - 2014.04.05 08:50:00 -
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The only reason to do this from my perspective would be to free up names. Both playernames and corporation names.
Apart from that I dont care. Dont really care about the names either to be honest.
Dont see the upside for CCP. I doubt they dont know what you know about the 8% being active. I doubt those inactive records in their database are creating strain on anything.
If even 1 dude thinks "lets try this again, I made a cool character back in the day" then not spending time (and thus money) on "cleaning" the database may be worth it. People that played and made a corporation may want to get back using that corporation as a starting point. Not having it, may dissuade them.
In short; I don't feel the need to do this.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3071
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Posted - 2014.04.05 09:18:00 -
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Show me figures regarding players who return and how much DB info is taken up by these inactive characters and we can talk.
I assume you are for the forced decommissioning of derelict POS towers too? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
217
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Posted - 2014.04.05 09:21:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Show me figures regarding players who return and how much DB info is taken up by these inactive characters and we can talk.
I assume you are for the forced decommissioning of derelict POS towers too?
Did I not specify in the OP to leave offline POS towers around, you mindless peon? If you're too cheap the hire mercs or shoot something defenceless yourself you deserve to suffer. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
193
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Posted - 2014.04.05 09:24:00 -
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OP forgot the provide reasons for the points in his bullet list.
Additionally there is even a sub forum for this kind of posts called something with ideas... |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3071
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Posted - 2014.04.05 09:26:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote: you mindless peon?
Sorry, who am I serving to be a peon?
And I spoke my mind, disagreeing with you, so therefore by definition I cannot be mindless
So, fellow who insults people in a debate for no reason, please explain how terminating unused characters, and by their extention, their assets is in any way different from removing these towers? By extention some of those towers will vanish with the removal of inactive corps. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
217
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Posted - 2014.04.05 09:30:00 -
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It's not a new idea anymore - this is the general discussion of something that's been around for years and years.
Here are my reasons,
1 & 2: inactive players provide nothing of value to the game and only take up space (in names and logos) that active players who are part of the current community could be using. Unless these players are of historical significance WHO CARES if they get deleted. The owners probably won't.
3: I want to call my corp something - oh look a guy made a corp with a similar name 6 years ago and hasn't logged in in over 5 years. It's a self explanatory issue.
4: I can wardec his corp but I can't wipe it off the face of the earth because with no way to actually generate upkeep on a highsec corp there's nothing keeping them from dying. This needs to change. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
134
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Posted - 2014.04.05 09:41:00 -
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Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3071
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Posted - 2014.04.05 09:43:00 -
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Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub.....
OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name  *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Alastair Ormand
Badger Badger Badger Apocalypse Now.
62
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:09:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:In an ideal world, yes.
Chafes my OCD too,
I think they have a cream for that.
But yeah. Kill the dead corps. Finding a ticker that isn't taken is a b***h
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Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
217
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:11:00 -
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CCPs own research in to the matter is more about reclaiming players who left within the last 2 years, not people from 5+ years ago who are *never* coming back.
CSM minutes from 2011 tell much. Gotta have the memory to see their bigger picture. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
135
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:21:00 -
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So, is it a Star Trek or Babylon 5 name that you want to free up for your corp? |

Rannasha Kore
United Individuals Clearly Unconventional Meatshield
0
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:23:00 -
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You could have names and such from inactive players and corps expire after a certain time (say, 1 year). At this point, the name can be claimed by any active player and if the name is claimed by someone else, the inactive player will receive a notice to pick a new name when he comes back.
This way, you get the best of both worlds. Inactive players can't lock out desirable names indefinitely and characters and corps aren't deleted, so someone returning after a very long absence will still find all his stuff intact. |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
217
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:31:00 -
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The defence of inactive players priviledge to their corps and names is an inane as saying that ships cannot change - yet clearly slots get moved and you're told to harden up. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3072
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:34:00 -
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Rannasha Kore wrote:You could have names and such from inactive players and corps expire after a certain time (say, 1 year). At this point, the name can be claimed by any active player and if the name is claimed by someone else, the inactive player will receive a notice to pick a new name when he comes back.
This way, you get the best of both worlds. Inactive players can't lock out desirable names indefinitely and characters and corps aren't deleted, so someone returning after a very long absence will still find all his stuff intact.
CCP have stated many many many times that names are pretty much fixed forever (except TOS breaking ones)
This is one of their mechanisms to avoid accidental taking of one in use
Something something harden the something something *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Domania
Rooks Inc.
14
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:37:00 -
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Out of my 8 years playing, I have never once been stuck on naming a character or corporation. Never once had issues making a tag for said corporation. What all those accounts do is fill in the most common and unimaginative names out there. You say deleting them would be of no consequence. I then propose upon you why we should not just keep them? There is no consequences by keeping them and taking no action against inactive accounts, and people who do come back to the game or decide to start playing Eve after trying the trial after a time might want to use a account they made already. |

Sher Rayet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:41:00 -
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How would this work in the Employment History tab? Erased or tagged as a "Legacy" corp, which may indicate this so and so is a successor? |

BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2014.04.05 10:56:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:... you mindless peon? If you're too cheap the hire mercs or shoot something defenceless yourself you deserve to suffer. Did they deserve to be called this name? and because they may be poor they "deserve" to suffer?
I think the game is better off without you in it...
Ramona McCandless wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name  And he's upset he can't use "The Big Hairy Purple 3rd Toe on My Left Foot" as a corp name bceause it's taken. |

Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
24
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Posted - 2014.04.05 11:08:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:So it's that time again. Reasons have been posted a million times so here they are in bullet-point format.
So if this has been went over a million times before, what committee elected you to rehash it for the million and oneth time? Or do the bullet-points make that much of a difference?
Caleb Seremshur wrote:Did I not specify in the OP to leave offline POS towers around, you mindless peon?
Hey now, watch your mouth, and no being a ****. If I gotta be politically correct, and nice, everyone's gotta also. |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
938
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Posted - 2014.04.05 11:27:00 -
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Hehe, Ramona is a mindless peon! Not exactly the mental image I have of that character... Few know their own mind better, I think. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3076
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Posted - 2014.04.05 11:33:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Hehe, Ramona is a mindless peon! Not exactly the mental image I have of that character... Few know their own mind better, I think.
Oh you! *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
298
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Posted - 2014.04.05 11:48:00 -
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Sarah McKnobbo wrote:So, is it a Star Trek or Babylon 5 name that you want to free up for your corp?
He's just having a sad because someone else already took Darth Vader 
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Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
138
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:12:00 -
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Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub.....
Yup, recalled into a hell of biomass and tax bills.  |

Marcia en Welle
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:18:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:3: I want to call my corp something - oh look a guy made a corp with a similar name 6 years ago and hasn't logged in in over 5 years. It's a self explanatory issue. This thread is basically, 'someone else has a name which I want so I'm going to cry about it on the forums.'
HTFU
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Dinger
Task Force Delta-14
7
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:29:00 -
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Let's deal with the easy ones first. 1. Why wait so long? Personal opinion, but if someone hasn't subscribed within a week of their trial ending the odds are they're not going to, personally I'd delete them a week after the trial ends, even in 21 days (I believe the longest trial period available) most genuine trialers are not going to have amassed any significant resources anyway. Not to mention the fact that they won't have contributed anything towards the cost of the game.
4. I'd go one further, these POS are attackable yes but only with the twin costs of ISK for a wardec (and most likely a few mercs) and time to chew the tower down. Since POS can be fuelled for up to a month at a time and can be deployed and more importantly to this discussion undeployed in an matter of hours the only reason for one to go offline and sit in space is if it has been abandoned. So, give it a week's grace, if it sits offline for a week everything unanchors and first come first served.
For 2 and 3 your primary issue seems to be with one man corps, now as someone who has and still does (at least when I'm active) run a one man corp (me and my alts since giving up on nullsec a long time ago) I can tell you there are two reasons I created D-14: 1. I wanted to run a POS in empire to support my manufacturing base, this requires a player run corporation with the appropriate standings. 2. I had no intention of watching 11% of my income siphoned away in NPC corp taxes for nothing, I'd just left one environment where a sizeable chuck of player's efforts were appropriated for little to no return, I was not about to tolerate another.
The second of those reasons in my opinion is why we see so many one man corps these days and is a perfect example of the law of unintended consequences, people bitched and moaned and whined so much about players "hiding" in NPC corps that CCP finally acted against said players by slapping a tax on the NPC corps. What happened next was exactly what everyone who stood opposed to that said would happen, players started "hiding" in one man corps, dodging the tax in the process and changing absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Player corporations already have operating expenses, office rents, taxes on corp sell orders, usage charges for corp factory/lab jobs on NPC stations and so on, adding more on top of that may well "free up IP" from corps that don't run POS but you'll be straight back to square one as far as people in NPC corps go as people will simply go back to them if it's more expensive to stay outside of them.
Set that aside for a moment and your proposal still doesn't work. Deleting corporations (and their remaining assets if any) when the corporation has been abandoned (ie. membership = 0) makes sense as does deleting trial players who never subbed and unanchoring abandoned POS. But, as long as there is even one character who has at any time held a active subscription as part of a corporation it can't be done. That player active or otherwise has paid their way, their accounts and everything therein including any corporations they have created are just as "valid" as an active subscribers' unless and until CCP says otherwise. Even if you manage to find a justification for freeing up the names deleting the assets of someone who has at some point paid real money into the game and may come back at some point is hardly likely to encourage them to do so and to be fair serves no practical purpose anyway as the assets are inactive as it is.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
590
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:37:00 -
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It should be way simpler than that, really.
Inactive characters should never ever be deleted after any time period what so ever. Not even trials. Simple as.
However there are a LOT of characters out there who are not returning to the game with 100% certainty. Namely those who are banned permanently and those who are biomassed.
While both situations should remove a character from the game completely, all it does is place them in a special 'dead player corp'. This is fun for nostalgia sake of course, but keeps all those fun and clever names locked up until the end of time. What would be the problem in permanently deleting those characters from the system after x amount of time? Like say, 2 years? The character is deleted, the name opens up, everyone is happy. Put a big fat 'this is a new character' sticker in their bio and be done with it.
With corp names it should basically be the same. No active corp should ever be closed because of inactivity. But there are plenty of closed player corps with good names that someone else may want after a given time. A closed corp's name should become available for use again after a set amount of time and maybe special conditions.
In any case, the current system isn't really working. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3080
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:01:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:
In any case, the current system isn't really working.
Yes it is
The current system is:
You arent allowed the same name as another entity
And you can't, its mechanically impossible *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1740
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:18:00 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:In an ideal world, yes.
Chafes my OCD too, I think they have a cream for that. But yeah. Kill the dead corps. Finding a ticker that isn't taken is a b***h
I got "Bad Touches" and the ticker TCHU on the first try. It was literally the first corp and ticker I thought of. Just lucky I guess. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
625
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:44:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:1. inactive players which never subscribed from their trial are deleted from the system permanently after 1 year. No problem with this.
Caleb Seremshur wrote:2. corporations automatically suffer a tax to remain open and 'valid', which is tied to the corp at the time of their creation from an office - those who don't pay are automatically annulled and the corp is freed for re-birth somewhere else. You could try using some creativity and coming up with an original name instead of trying to copy names from books/movies/other. Also; Names have reputations attached to them, even if the corp in question has been dead for 8 year. Letting random mongoloids reuse old names because they're too dumb to come with a new one would be a waste.
Caleb Seremshur wrote:4. POS remain in space as they're actually attackable How exactly do you attack a high-sec pos belonging to a deleted corp that cannot be wardecced? You thought this through real well... 
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
373
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:31:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name 
For me the problem has always been tickers... there are only so many to work with given the limits.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3082
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:37:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name  For me the problem has always been tickers... there are only so many to work with given the limits.
Including only alphanumeric characters there are 916,132,832 possible tickers available. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

Regan Rotineque
Arch Angels Assault Force The Kadeshi
275
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:58:00 -
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If only there was a "features and ideas" forum to discuss this in......ohhh wait there is...... |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2455
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:03:00 -
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Day 1: Spy alt created, infiltrates target company, AWOXes everything in sight. Tears collected, alt is biomassed, as per standard ritual.
Day 366: CCP resets name so that it can be used again. New player grabs the name. Gains ten billion bounty before ever undocking because that name has been on an Alliance executor's watch list the entire time, finds self hounded through all of low/null by "vengeance fleets" and has no idea why.
Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5069
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:13:00 -
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I started a new character the other day. I was disappointed that I couldn't name it Erotica 1.
+1 for deleting inactive accounts.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3086
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:15:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Day 1: Spy alt created, infiltrates target company, AWOXes everything in sight. Tears collected, alt is biomassed, as per standard ritual.
Day 366: CCP resets name so that it can be used again. New player grabs the name. Gains ten billion bounty before ever undocking because that name has been on an Alliance executor's watch list the entire time, finds self hounded through all of low/null by "vengeance fleets" and has no idea why.
That would be HIGH-larious but yeah that would be bad
*** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |

RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
232
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:20:00 -
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Give people a reason to log in. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1740
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:24:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:So, is it a Star Trek or Babylon 5 name that you want to free up for your corp? He's just having a sad because someone else already took Darth Vader 
Someone has Darth Sploder too.... also Darth Trocious... but I'm not mad about that because its me :) I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1740
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:35:00 -
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What I like best about OPs plan is knowing about all the unsubbed titans. Talk about a titanomachy. Death to supers indeed. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
365
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:17:00 -
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Just to clarify the OP, trial accounts who never subbed ARE infact subject to deletion, I started one in 07 and upon coming back in 09 had to create a new account . May I remind you this is in fact simply a game and that given the amount of time it takes to accumulate anything, deletion of inactive players is not an option. I again took a two year stint from eve for uni, but by your logic my characters, their assets, and corp should be subject to deletion just so you can have a corp name. Be creative enough to create your own and stop ranting...which is after all against forum rules. |

Varesk
Carried Hate
540
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:27:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:It's not a new idea anymore - this is the general discussion of something that's been around for years and years.
As you have stated this discussion has been around for years and years. You should read those other threads about this topic and see what CCP has said about this "issue". It would have stopped you from making another thread about a topic, which you describe as, "Kicking a dead horse". |

Thorus Gallen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.04.05 21:41:00 -
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I came back after being out of game for 6 years and was pretty happy to see all my stuff was still all my stuff. If I had to start all over.... I dunno. Might not have. |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
377
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Posted - 2014.04.05 22:53:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Sarah McKnobbo wrote:Good time to suggest this. Just as CCP have an incentive program running to get people to resub..... OP wants resubbers to lose their stored characters just because he cant think of an original Corp Name  For me the problem has always been tickers... there are only so many to work with given the limits. Including only alphanumeric characters there are 916,132,832 possible tickers available.
I like my ticker to be revenant to the full name and not some random stuff. But thanks for playing.
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DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan
50
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:09:00 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote: Finding a ticker that isn't taken is a b***h Additional ticker length can fix that. License plates had a similar issue they solved by adding a digit to max length. ref: http://themusegarden.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/the-license-plate-problem-combinationspermutations/
Quote:GÇ£I wonder how many ways there are to create a unique license plate given an alphabet a and a format for the plate?GÇ¥ LetGÇÖs go through and figure this out.
First, define the alphabet. That is, the possibilities for each character that we can put on our license plate. For this example, letGÇÖs use 0-9 and A-Z. There are 10 digits and 26 letters so that gives us an alphabet of 36 characters. (a=36)
The next thing we will do is define the format for the plates in question. Assume that a license plate, for simplicityGÇÖs sake, can have 6 characters, either numbers or letters. LetGÇÖs first figure out how many possibilities for a license plate with only one character there are. There are 36 characters in our alphabet, so there are 36 possibilities for one GÇ£columnGÇ¥. Now there are also 36 choices for each of the remaining five spaces. So we have to do 36*36*36*36*36*36. ThatGÇÖs one time for each of the spaces. To write that simpler, we can generalize this to a^c, where a is the alphabet size and c is the number of characters on each GÇ£plateGÇ¥.
Now, this problem was assuming that we could repeat characters on a license plate. For instance, this assumes that 333333 could be a valid license plate. What if we had a rule that we couldnGÇÖt repeat characters?
The first column remains at 36 possibilities, but when we get to the second column, weGÇÖve already used one of our characters and we canGÇÖt repeat, so we only have 35. Then we have 34 for the next column. So for this weGÇÖll need to use a factorial (!). However, since we have 36 characters and only 6 spots, we will still have 31 possibilities even in the last spot. We donGÇÖt need the whole factorial. Thus, we will use only a!/(a-c)! where a is the alphabet size and c is the number of GÇ£columnsGÇ¥ on the license plate.
Hope this was a good simple combinatorics problem and displays a way that a mathematical principle can be used in a real life problem. Thus, an extra character/digit increases 60,466,176 mil possible corp tickers to a possible 2,176,782,336 corp tickers. [using above example, multiiply 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 = 2.176 bil] So simple fix: add 1 extra character/digit to corp ticker... if in fact this is a problem.
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Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:59:00 -
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DetKhord Saisio wrote:... if in fact this is a problem.
It isn't, as there are nowhere near that many corps.
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Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
220
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:24:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Day 1: Spy alt created, infiltrates target company, AWOXes everything in sight. Tears collected, alt is biomassed, as per standard ritual.
Day 366: CCP resets name so that it can be used again. New player grabs the name. Gains ten billion bounty before ever undocking because that name has been on an Alliance executor's watch list the entire time, finds self hounded through all of low/null by "vengeance fleets" and has no idea why.
"content"
a lone newbie, hated by the entire game and hunted whereever he goes
sounds like the plot of several movies and other video games doesn't it. The mystery of finding out what his previous incarnation did could be worth his while.
morrowind
Or he could just quit which he is statistically 92% inclined to do after all. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. The Storm Collective
220
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:26:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:4. POS remain in space as they're actually attackable How exactly do you attack a high-sec pos belonging to a deleted corp that cannot be wardecced? You thought this through real well... 
Wardecs are paid to CONCORD. In much the same way that POCOs in highsec were made free game, inactive corp towers become interbus property and can be decced/destroyed.
game set and match. LP store weapon cost rebalance |

Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3244
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:26:00 -
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Inactive players aren't a huge issue, but they could certainly toast inactive corporations. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:55:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Inactive players aren't a huge issue, but they could certainly toast inactive corporations. ^This. If you ask me, a corporation with 12 months inactivity is enough time for removal from corporation rosters. Purge those inactive placeholders.
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Creedeth
Yolo Corp Many Reckless Corps
11
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:20:00 -
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Deletion of trial accounts after a certain amount of time I can agree to. This would be no loss for anyone as the accounts are in fact never customers, and they can just start a new trial if they ever want to try again.
Removing corps tho, is a much more complex question. I suggest a 2m fee per month for each corp (simliar to alliances). Any corp assets are transfered to CEO at corp termination (no money for the fee). |

Hopelesshobo
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
221
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:28:00 -
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Instead of deleting the accounts outright, a better solution would be to move the inactive characters and corps to a different database, that when accessed by someone returning to the game, would check the names to see if they are currently in use.
If the names are not in use then the server would move the characters back over to the primary database.
If the names are now currently in use, the user would be prompted to change the name of their character. This would be the only practical solution. However being that people could then use this to recreate their character names without consequence, CCP would have to add a name history tab next to employment history. Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
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