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spurious signal
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Posted - 2006.05.21 07:56:00 -
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I've seen another warning about this last week but it seems to be becomming more common so I thought another warning might be in order.
A new trick that griefers are using is to set up a small POS somewhere then somehow get people to warp to it, either by generating a cyno field and going "come see pretty dreads!" or by asking for help in a mission or some other similar ruse. When the victim warps in to the POS area, not knowing there's a POS there, the POS promptly ganks them.
One such griefer in Otsasai yesterday was claiming 40+ kills, 20+ of which were Battleships.
Just a heads-up anyway, this is a lame tactic for the cowardly IMO, hopefully warnings will keep others from falling victim to it. Luckily I didn't trust the griefer who asked me for help in a mission so I didn't fall prey to it, but plenty of others are still getting ganked like this.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.21 07:58:00 -
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Old news. 
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spurious signal
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Posted - 2006.05.21 07:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Old news.
I know, that's why I said that I'd already seen a warning like this, old news doesn't mean it's useless news though 
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:11:00 -
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Darwin strikes again.
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Galk
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:11:00 -
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It's about time ccp took a hardline against this sort of thing.
Pure greifing.
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:23:00 -
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The sooner new people learn this game is about trickery and backstabbing - the better.
Sheltering people from certain "bad" tricks will simply postpone their lesson, till they encounter some other trick.
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:25:00 -
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My top3 favorite POS types:
1) Flycatcher POS (described in OP)
2) wtfbbq POS, also known as Death Star POS (does over 10k dps )
3) Carebear POS (only moon mining and reaction stuff)
I see nothing bad in flycatcher POSses since the basic rule of EVE is "Don't buy anything you can't afford to lose."
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 21/05/2006 08:29:12
Being uber carebear I say "Keep boys having some fun!"
No need to change mechanics that aren't broken.
Perhaps some "american style" warning box when your jumping to cyno about some possible danger. 
Unnerf Amarr!
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Maximum69
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:46:00 -
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Same thing has just happened to me, Raven destroyed. Demos Altayr tricked me into his gang then warped to his station where i got destroyed. This is an EXPLOIT ccp, the player is avoiding a sec drop and avoiding kill rights being put on him.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.05.21 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Same thing has just happened to me, Raven destroyed. Demos Altayr tricked me into his gang then warped to his station where i got destroyed. This is an EXPLOIT ccp, the player is avoiding a sec drop and avoiding kill rights being put on him.
Lol, Sucks to be you
Darwin 4tw
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Same thing has just happened to me, Raven destroyed. Demos Altayr tricked me into his gang then warped to his station where i got destroyed. This is an EXPLOIT ccp, the player is avoiding a sec drop and avoiding kill rights being put on him.
yup, we really need a cancel warp button, o wait a minute
dont join gangs you dont know, dont follow them in warp.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Same thing has just happened to me, Raven destroyed. Demos Altayr tricked me into his gang then warped to his station where i got destroyed. This is an EXPLOIT ccp, the player is avoiding a sec drop and avoiding kill rights being put on him.
Yes, that's evil. It happened to 2 mates last sommer, when they accepted a gang invite from an enemy and got warped to a POS. Tempest and mega dead. Since then I always check gang invites and block the guys, who send out gang invites to hostiles.
Ok, last time I accepted a gang invote from an enemy. The first thing I read in gang chat was: 'Warp to him ! .... Warp !' or something like this and then I informed them that I sat on station. That was quite funny.
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Maximum69
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Maximum69 on 21/05/2006 09:20:54
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
Anyway I have put in a petition, if it comes out bad i'm leavin, I can't be bothered putting my time into a game for some C**T to ruin it with loopholes that CCP should know about.
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R3dSh1ft
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Old news.
Its not news its a warning. read.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: babylonstew
Originally by: Maximum69
Same thing has just happened to me, Raven destroyed. Demos Altayr tricked me into his gang then warped to his station where i got destroyed. This is an EXPLOIT ccp, the player is avoiding a sec drop and avoiding kill rights being put on him.
yup, we really need a cancel warp button, o wait a minute
dont join gangs you dont know, dont follow them in warp.
strg+space cancels warp if applied early enough
the rest: /signed
common sense helps in most cases
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:41:00 -
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mmm selection of the dumbest not an exploit afaik otherwise CCP would fix it
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bumcheekcity
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Posted - 2006.05.21 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Edited by: Maximum69 on 21/05/2006 09:20:54
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
Anyway I have put in a petition, if it comes out bad i'm leavin, I can't be bothered putting my time into a game for some C**T to ruin it with loopholes that CCP should know about.
I for one, think we should have a T2 STFU module to conter the T2 Winge module that this gentlemen is using.
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Edited by: Maximum69 on 21/05/2006 09:20:54
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
Anyway I have put in a petition, if it comes out bad i'm leavin, I can't be bothered putting my time into a game for some C**T to ruin it with loopholes that CCP should know about.
Welcome to EvE online. A game where creative thinking like this is encouraged, not banned.
You could easily have avoided this by not being a muppet and joining a unknown gang.
Tarkin > Omfg, frigs are such bs.
Red 5 > lolol, lern 2 play plz noob
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Edited by: Maximum69 on 21/05/2006 09:20:54
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
Anyway I have put in a petition, if it comes out bad i'm leavin, I can't be bothered putting my time into a game for some C**T to ruin it with loopholes that CCP should know about.
I brought up this exact issue before POS's were allowed in Empire, along with suggested solutions (not to the ganking, but to the ganking without penalty.)
There were lots of other good suggestions in the threat, but it would seem the CCP decided not to adopt any.
If they change things now it will just be another example of the players having more foresight and knowledge of how the game is played than the devs have, and so change is unlikely.
Personally I could care less. But then I expect stuff like this and play accordingly. However, the game is not played only by people like me (fortunately), and unlikely though it may seem, I do consider how game changes will affect all sorts of players.
Personally I think POS griefing is bad simply because it avoids consequence, not because blowing people up is in itself bad.
Obviously the dev's have a different opinion, and at the end of the day it is their game.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:32:00 -
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its not griefing, its piracy.
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FooB2
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:34:00 -
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yes, its an exploit. ill give you that.
however, hes not exploiting game mechanics, hes exploiting the flaws in your head. you should omgpetition to god and ask for re-imbursment cos you lost your brain due to LAGGGGG
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AlienBreed
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:35:00 -
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Quote:
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
thats a very good point tbh
how ever you want to look at this issue the one thing you can say is thats an exploit and GMs ought to take action on it
if it has the side effect that you cant pull off this little lameness any more then perhaps thats not such a bad thing but evading sec loss should not be allowed
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Edited by: Maximum69 on 21/05/2006 09:20:54
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
Anyway I have put in a petition, if it comes out bad i'm leavin, I can't be bothered putting my time into a game for some C**T to ruin it with loopholes that CCP should know about.
can i have whatever stuff you have left?
allways wanted to be first to post that in a thread \o/
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum69
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
Anyway I have put in a petition, if it comes out bad i'm leavin, I can't be bothered putting my time into a game for some C**T to ruin it with loopholes that CCP should know about.
Can I have your stuff?
By the way, when looking for a replacement hobby, I understand croquet is rated very highly at the moment.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: babylonstew
Originally by: Maximum69
Edited by: Maximum69 on 21/05/2006 09:20:54
Surely it's an exploit!! He's using the game to destroy members without taking a sec lv loss.
Anyway I have put in a petition, if it comes out bad i'm leavin, I can't be bothered putting my time into a game for some C**T to ruin it with loopholes that CCP should know about.
can i have whatever stuff you have left?
allways wanted to be first to post that in a thread \o/
son of a *****. 2 minutes, while i was thinking up a follow-on to the croquet comment (never got one i was happy with  )
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:40:00 -
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 beat ya \ /
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FooB2
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:41:00 -
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which one is that? the one where you knit bobble hats or the one where you eat crumpets and drink tea all day whilst knocking around balls with a big mallet?
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Vistilantus on 21/05/2006 10:45:28
Originally by: Galk
It's about time ccp took a hardline against this sort of thing.
Pure greifing.
It's not greifing, it's using social engineering to get what you want. There is nothing stopping the residents of Otsasai (myself being one of them) from gathering a force to destroy the POS, whether that be a fleet of our own ships or hiring mercs.
What the guy is doing is great, we warn people about the POS and they still fall for it. I fell for it too, but i lived to tell the tale ^_^
sometimes life is too cosy and you need a reality check, that's what we're getting :)
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Obmud
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:42:00 -
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Well in my personal view it is an exploit (gangsystem was not intended that way), the big downside on this is, that people won't help you anymore if this is getting usual, and thats always a bad thing.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:43:00 -
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I don't know how anyone can defend this kind of behavior.
People say that stealing ore, war dec'ing corps any saying its rp, log on traps and 200km gate snipers are all griefing.
Let us take a moment to see what a griefer is anyway.
Griefing, by definition is causing other players duress without personal gain, and purely to cause them suffering.
Therefore, all the above are not forms of griefing, as the purps have some form of income from it.
Fair enough, they do gain income from dropped loot and stuff, which I guess kinda voids part of that argument, but still.
This is just pure griefing, without penalty as there is no sec lost anywhere (I assume). This does need to be plugged, or at the very least get some official word from CCP...
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