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        |  Darth Kilth
 Silver Guardians
 Fidelas Constans
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:27:00 -
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 Hurray!
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        |  Jilozz
 Obstergo
 Red Coat Conspiracy
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:30:00 -
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 Sweet! Can't wait!
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        |  Sticky Hamster
 Nova-Tek
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:36:00 -
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 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
 
 I would love to help beta test Dust 514 on PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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        |  Sugilite
 Forever Winter
 Absolute Zero.
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:37:00 -
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 About damn time.
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        |  War Kitten
 Panda McLegion
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:38:00 -
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 Sugilite wrote:About damn time. This.
 
 WOOT!
 
 I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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        |  Nano V
 Caldari Provisions
 Caldari State
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:43:00 -
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 Great news, looking forward to playing it.
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        |  Laziris deke
 Torathis Industries
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:48:00 -
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 I'm so excited.... and I just can't hide it.....
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        |  Freelancer117
 So you want to be a Hero
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 -
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 Pc Master Race, next to Gallente
  
 Please use Unreal 4 Engine for Dust514 soon.
 Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
 
 http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
 
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        |  Mila Strelok
 Knights who say N1
 TAXU
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 -
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 The main question is, current PS3 Dust514 players will maintain their characters on PC? or we will need to create new characters?
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        |  Puiu Lucif
 Kikkihiiri's Corporation of Madness
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:54:00 -
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 Mila Strelok wrote:The main question is, current PS3 Dust514 players will maintain their characters on PC? or we will need to create new characters? i think you won't be able to do so because it's actually a completely new game. if they somehow manage to do so then i'll be really surprised.
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        |  Hoban Gallifrey
 New Eden University
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:57:00 -
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 Dust is not coming to PC EVE:Legion is coming to PC which is a different game to Dust according to dev blog.
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        |  Akrasjel Lanate
 Naquatech Conglomerate
 Naquatech Syndicate
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:58:00 -
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 Yay
 
 Wonder how long will it take?
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        |  Tysun Kane
 Republic Military School
 Minmatar Republic
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 13:59:00 -
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 Legion looks amazing **** yeah. Thank you CCP .
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        |  Baneken
 Arctic Light Inc.
 Arctic Light
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 14:00:00 -
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 More likely legion is as close to dust as aesthetically can be and since PS4 runs on PC hardware porting it shouldn't be too huge a leap.
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        |  Oberine Noriepa
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 14:12:00 -
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 The inevitable announcement. Splendid.
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        |  Crasniya
 Strange Energy
 Gentlemen's Agreement
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 14:22:00 -
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 It's going to be very telling what they say in the next few days, because they just royally ticked off a HUGE part of their community.
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        |  WASPY69
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 Caldari State
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 14:24:00 -
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 Brb, need a new pair of underwear!
 My care-o-meter for Dust just went from dead zero, to the max! Can't wait!
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        |  Markku Laaksonen
 EVE University
 Ivy League
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 14:45:00 -
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 Have you guys seen the DUST forums? They're not too terribly excited about getting kicked to the side.
 
 "DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths..."
 DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
 
 EVE Buddy Invite - https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=047203f1-4124-42a1-b36f-39ca8ae5d6e2&action=buddy
 
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        |  Darth Kilth
 Silver Guardians
 Fidelas Constans
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 15:01:00 -
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 Markku Laaksonen wrote:Have you guys seen the DUST forums? They're not too terribly excited about getting kicked to the side.
 "DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths..."
 I'm reading the DUST Forums right now and man, those guys are mad.
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        |  Shalua Rui
 Rui Freelance Mining
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 15:05:00 -
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 Darth Kilth wrote:I'm reading the DUST Forums right now and man, those guys are mad. Don
 't wanna brag or anything, but I - and others here - always knew the game would not stay PS3 explusive... it was pretty naive to truely believe it would be. The game was far to explansive to be left behind with a last generation console.
 "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
 Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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        |  Darth Kilth
 Silver Guardians
 Fidelas Constans
 
 165
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.02 15:13:00 -
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 Shalua Rui wrote:Darth Kilth wrote:I'm reading the DUST Forums right now and man, those guys are mad. Don't wanna gloat or anything, but I - and others here - always knew the game would not stay PS3 explusive... it was pretty naive to truely believe it would. The game was far to explansive to be left behind with a last generation console. I always had the same idea in my head, it was only a matter of time before it went to either the PS4 or the PC, and with the demand on the PC it was kind of obvious which of the two would get it.
 
 Doesn't stop the people whining on the DUST forums from being completely ignorant to the inevitability of this and getting mad
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        |  Shalua Rui
 Rui Freelance Mining
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 15:20:00 -
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 Darth Kilth wrote:Doesn't stop the people whining on the DUST forums from being completely ignorant to the inevitability of this and getting mad 'Course not... everybody want's to be a special snoflake.
  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
 Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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        |  Vincent Athena
 V.I.C.E.
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 15:44:00 -
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 Listening to the stream. I just heard "If legion becomes a product..."
 
 If
 http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
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        |  War Kitten
 Panda McLegion
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 16:20:00 -
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 Vincent Athena wrote:Listening to the stream. I just heard "If legion becomes a product..."
 If
 
 Yeah - makes me think they're sidestepping exclusivity agreements with Sony by naming the game something different from Dust, but they're not quite sure if they'll get away with it.
 
 I hope it happens though - I'll play it. FPS on a console just isn't fun for me.
 
 I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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        |  Shaman LizardKing
 0ne Percent.
 Odin's Call
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 16:43:00 -
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 1) FPS on console : no way
 2) How would you bring the Eve experience on such a rigid structure as a console
 3) What do you do when hardware become obsolete
 
 => 3 reasons for having Dust 514, so called Eve: Legion on PC
 
 Hurray
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        |  Shaax MacGruber
 Exodus..
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 16:51:00 -
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 Vincent Athena wrote:Listening to the stream. I just heard "If legion becomes a product..."
 If
 
 I'm glad someone else caught this. At this point no one really knows if Legion will even be a thing.
 
 It probably will, but we can only speculate at this point. Legion sounds awesome, it truthfully sounds like all the problems with Dust they intend to fix it with Legion. We'll find out in 6 months to a year.
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        |  Silence Iganku
 The Scope
 Gallente Federation
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 18:54:00 -
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 Darth Kilth wrote:Hurray!
 Edit:
 
 One question tough, can I redeem my EVE collectors edition stuff in the PC version?
 
 yeaaaaa finally dust will be cheateable and full of people with aimboat invurnable and teleporting all over the map one shooting you !!!! weeeeeeeee happyyyyyy !!!
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        |  DeeJ1
 BetaMax Beta
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 19:54:00 -
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 Sorry to correct you OP, but Dust isn't coming to PC. A new game is coming, probably without any connection with Dust, not even the character names - that's why the current Dust players are butt hurt, because no migration path was shown. It's the same as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and all you characters and assets would be left to rot in EVE 1.0.
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        |  Darth Kilth
 Silver Guardians
 Fidelas Constans
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 19:58:00 -
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 Silence Iganku wrote:Darth Kilth wrote:Hurray!
 Edit:
 
 One question tough, can I redeem my EVE collectors edition stuff in the PC version?
 yeaaaaa finally dust will be cheateable and full of people with aimboat invurnable and teleporting all over the map one shooting you !!!! weeeeeeeee happyyyyyy !!! Like that's impossible on console, next your going to say how piracy doesn't happen for consoles.
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        |  Gerald Sphinx
 The Irukandji
 Ineluctable.
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 19:59:00 -
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 Well, after taking a moment to calm down and after being bummed out, I decided to just move on. My Dust character Maken Tosch is officially in cold storage in the hopes that maybe (or maybe not) the stats that I accumulated with this character will be ported over to Legion when the time comes. If CCP can figure that out I would be happy as I have a lot of BPOs in that character all of which were bought back when they were just 100 AUR a piece (thankfully). If CCP can't figure it out, oh well. I'm not going to jump off a bridge over it.
 
 After calming down, it took me a moment to realize that the PS3 is what was really holding Dust back. The hardware just wouldn't allow it and the fact that Dust is running on the Unreal 3 engine through Sony's network isn't helping Dust either. I will admit that there was a moment some time ago while playing Dust that I looked at my PS3 and thought to myself...
 
 "Man, I don't think this PS3 will help Dust achieve its promises."
 
 I thought I was just being unreasonably pessimistic. But after seeing the announcement at Fanfest 2014 and looking at the console market and seeing how truly limited the PS3 is after further playing with other games, I realized that the "unreasonable pessimism" I experienced was actually justified pessimism.
 
 Time to move on.
 
 At least the PC will address many things the PS3 failed to address.
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        |  Manssell
 OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 20:00:00 -
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 DeeJ1 wrote:...It's the same as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and all you characters and assets would be left to rot in EVE 1.0. 
 And the new 2.0 is only available on a platform many current players don't have.
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        |  Marlona Sky
 D00M.
 Northern Coalition.
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 20:03:00 -
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 For those who don't realize it, the 514 was code for the expiration date for the game. 5-14... May 2014. Although I never spent money or a lot of time like some of you, I can't help but feel you guys massively wronged today.
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        |  Shalua Rui
 Rui Freelance Mining
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 20:18:00 -
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 Manssell wrote:And the new 2.0 is only available on a platform many current players don't have. Only that this time around, most of the players have the "new" platform readily available...
 "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
 Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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        |  mkint
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 20:18:00 -
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 Manssell wrote:DeeJ1 wrote:...It's the same as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and all you characters and assets would be left to rot in EVE 1.0. And the new 2.0 is only available on a platform many current players don't have. correction, it would be as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and nothing else about it. No dates, no roadmap, no obsolescence plans just a "we've got a lot to figure out still." And are you seriously claiming there are a significant number of people who have a video game console but don't have any kind of computer whatsoever? And that venn diagram has any overlap with those who play an EVE product? There's probably more dial-up players on EVE than dust bunnies who don't own a computer.
 Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun.
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        |  Manssell
 OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 21:33:00 -
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 mkint wrote:Manssell wrote:[quote=DeeJ1]...It's the same as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and all you characters and assets would be left to rot in EVE 1.0. ...And are you seriously claiming there are a significant number of people who have a video game console but don't have any kind of computer whatsoever? And that venn diagram has any overlap with those who play an EVE product? There's probably more dial-up players on EVE than dust bunnies who don't own a computer. 
 Actually I do know plenty of people who have a console but no gaming PC. They have really old computers or laptops, macs, or tablets. They get a console so they can game and so can their kids, along with streaming movies ect. Sure we don't know the specs yet of what will run it, but many assume (i think safely) it would need a current up to date PC system.
 
 Now don't get me wrong, I understand that here in Eve we all have PCs for games (duh) and there is a large potential market. I'm just pointing out why many in the current dust community are mad, and many of them are saying they don't have a gaming PC as one reason.
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        |  Dave Stark
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 21:40:00 -
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 Marlona Sky wrote:For those who don't realize it, the 514 was code for the expiration date for the game. 5-14... May 2014. Although I never spent money or a lot of time like some of you, I can't help but feel you guys were massively wronged today.   people didn't join the pc masterrace, they paid the price.
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        |  mkint
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.02 22:27:00 -
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 Manssell wrote:mkint wrote:Manssell wrote:[quote=DeeJ1]...It's the same as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and all you characters and assets would be left to rot in EVE 1.0. ...And are you seriously claiming there are a significant number of people who have a video game console but don't have any kind of computer whatsoever? And that venn diagram has any overlap with those who play an EVE product? There's probably more dial-up players on EVE than dust bunnies who don't own a computer. Actually I do know plenty of people who have a console but no gaming PC. They have really old computers or laptops, macs, or tablets. They get a console so they can game and so can their kids, along with streaming movies ect. Sure we don't know the specs yet of what will run it, but many assume (i think safely) it would need a current up to date PC system. Now don't get me wrong, I understand that here in Eve we all have PCs for games (duh) and there is a large potential market. I'm just pointing out why many in the current dust community are mad, and many of them are saying they don't have a gaming PC as one reason. I'm not seeing anybody say they don't have a PC... well, after all, how would they be posting? :P What I'm seeing people say is that people "might not," which from a principles standpoint is extremely valid, but I'm not sure how it actually practically plays out. Also, for all anyone knows, they've got a whole year or more to enjoy what they've already paid for. Maybe less than that, but I somehow doubt it.
 Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun.
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        |  Leezir
 Republic Military School
 Minmatar Republic
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.02 22:44:00 -
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 Will it be coming out for the ps4?
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        |  Shaax MacGruber
 Hellfire Cult
 The East India Co.
 
 3
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.02 23:27:00 -
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 Leezir wrote:Will it be coming out for the ps4? 
 
 They made no mention of this. Only PC is confirmed.
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        |  Dr Vulix
 Automata Labs
 
 48
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 -
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 I found something to help all the people making wild speculations right now: http://www.yankscallitsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/JumpToConclusionsMat.png
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        |  Manssell
 OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
 
 209
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.03 00:50:00 -
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 mkint wrote:Manssell wrote:mkint wrote:Manssell wrote:[quote=DeeJ1]...It's the same as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and all you characters and assets would be left to rot in EVE 1.0. ...And are you seriously claiming there are a significant number of people who have a video game console but don't have any kind of computer whatsoever? And that venn diagram has any overlap with those who play an EVE product? There's probably more dial-up players on EVE than dust bunnies who don't own a computer. Actually I do know plenty of people who have a console but no gaming PC. They have really old computers or laptops, macs, or tablets. They get a console so they can game and so can their kids, along with streaming movies ect. Sure we don't know the specs yet of what will run it, but many assume (i think safely) it would need a current up to date PC system. Now don't get me wrong, I understand that here in Eve we all have PCs for games (duh) and there is a large potential market. I'm just pointing out why many in the current dust community are mad, and many of them are saying they don't have a gaming PC as one reason. I'm not seeing anybody say they don't have a PC... well, after all, how would they be posting? :P What I'm seeing people say is that people "might not," which from a principles standpoint is extremely valid, but I'm not sure how it actually practically plays out. Also, for all anyone knows, they've got a whole year or more to enjoy what they've already paid for. Maybe less than that, but I somehow doubt it. 
 Ha, yea I guess unless you're on a phone or tablet you kinda need a computer to be on the forums.
 I did see a few people this afternoon saying they didn't have "gaming PCs" which I assume means they have a computer, but not one powerful enough to play current games. Hell I know that back in the dark days before I found Eve (or was my life better then???) since all my work computers where Macs, I only had an old clunky, abused, sticker covered, outdated PC that could pretty much only run the Total War games and that's all I used it for. And when Medieval II came out I didn't buy a new one just to play it.
 
 You're right in that I've also seen a lot of "might not" too. I know I got friend who's a programmer that has a pretty nice rig in his home office but never plays games on it. For him "games" are only played on the PS3-4 in the basement on the 80 inch TV. I may be an old yet very immature idiot, but i'm well past the whole PC versus console argument. For me it's just as pointless and dumb as the PC/Mac arguments. Everyone has their own preferences and systems they can afford or not. I do think the majority of rage is more about how this was dropped on the community (and I don't really blame them), but like you said we'll have to wait and see what happens.
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        |  Silence Iganku
 The Scope
 Gallente Federation
 
 6
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.03 08:39:00 -
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 Darth Kilth wrote:Silence Iganku wrote:Darth Kilth wrote:Hurray!
 Edit:
 
 One question tough, can I redeem my EVE collectors edition stuff in the PC version?
 yeaaaaa finally dust will be cheateable and full of people with aimboat invurnable and teleporting all over the map one shooting you !!!! weeeeeeeee happyyyyyy !!! Like that's impossible on console, next your going to say how piracy doesn't happen for consoles. 
 
 There is no match between the two things... if you have a little idea about programming and stuff like that you will understand that you make a no sense reply
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        |  Caviar Liberta
 Moira.
 Villore Accords
 
 531
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.03 21:49:00 -
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 Hoban Gallifrey wrote:Dust is not coming to PC EVE:Legion is coming to PC which is a different game to Dust according to dev blog. 
 Watched the stream and it was mentioned that there would be a migration from Dust 514 to Legion.
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        |  Freelancer117
 So you want to be a Hero
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.03 22:32:00 -
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 Legion has not even been confirmed yet; It was presented in much the same style as EVE: Valkyrie last year, as an experiment that CCPgames could put significant resources into if players like it
  
 Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
 
 http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
 
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        |  mkint
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.03 23:25:00 -
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 Was kinda interesting how they showed all the dust stuff on the assumption that it'll be legion by then, but in the final big keynote the guy responsible for it pointed at hillmar and said he hadn't approved it yet. Kinda makes me wonder if somebody's gonna get fired. :P But yeah, he did say pretty much what I've been saying all along... bug fixes and balance changes will continue as before in dust, and that there would be migration. Seriously though dust bunny guys... I've been keeping an eye on dust patchnotes pretty much since it launched, and have been totally underwhelmed. The entire point of dust was that it's closely related to EVE, and in all this time, the connection has been next to nothing. To be honest, when they sold their souls to sony, I hoped the connection would be as half-assed as it turned out to be. Now that it's going to be available for real EVE players, I'm hoping it'll be much much more connected. Integrated even.
 Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun.
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        |  Commander Predator
 Bloody Hands
 
 35
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.05 07:31:00 -
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 PC master race
 
 cant wait
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        |  Baneken
 Arctic Light Inc.
 Arctic Light
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.05 08:10:00 -
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 To be honest I have a feeling that most of the time with developing dust goes to circumventing the performance problems issued by PS3 then making actual changes.
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        |  Shalua Rui
 Rui Freelance Mining
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.05 08:28:00 -
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 Freelancer117 wrote:Legion has not even been confirmed yet; It was presented in much the same style as EVE: Valkyrie last year, as an experiment that CCPgames could put significant resources into if players like it   ...and it got the same level of positive feedback that Valkyrie got. Well, aside from the rage coming from the DUST community.
 "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
 Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.05 15:35:00 -
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 Tysun Kane wrote:Legion looks amazing **** yeah. Thank you CCP . 
 So did Dust 6 years ago!
  
 #SoonGäó
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        |  DaReaper
 Net 7
 The Last Brigade
 
 484
 
 
       | Posted - 2014.05.05 15:40:00 -
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 You have my support for legion, make this happen, but link the damn thing to eve, go all or don;t even other.
 
 As an aside, how dustbunnies did not see this coming idk. They even had a 6 page forum post of speculation on what legion was. CCP handled it badly sure, but its for the best.
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.05 15:46:00 -
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 DaReaper wrote:You have my support for legion, make this happen, but link the damn thing to eve, go all or don;t even other.
 As an aside, how dustbunnies did not see this coming idk. They even had a 6 page forum post of speculation on what legion was. CCP handled it badly sure, but its for the best.
 
 You know with the current prososal of Legion there will no longer be any OBS right? Why would Legion need any Eve interaction when they could scavenge what they need?
 
 Say bubbye to those kill mails where in you could kill 16 Dusters right of the back. Say bubbye to all those juicy LP points that get you those factional goodies fast.
  
 And yes! Most dusters didnt see this coming! Big gotcha from CCP!
  
 But hey it will fun watching them Legionaires rage when they see that incompetency doesnt get solved by changing projects but by changing one's own outlook!
 
 Peace
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        |  45thtiger 0109
 AL3XAND3R.
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.06 00:49:00 -
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 Hoban Gallifrey wrote:Dust is not coming to PC EVE:Legion is coming to PC which is a different game to Dust according to dev blog. 
 Legion Is a code name.
 
 Which is still Dust 514 on PC and as a PC player I will be setting up another monitor on my PC to play EvE & Dust at the same time yay.
 
 CCP you have done well and I will be keeping my subscription going as long as the content is fresh and exciting for Both EvE & Dust.
 
 Great Job CCP
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        |  Carniflex
 StarHunt
 Mordus Angels
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.06 07:28:00 -
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 At last! I will be able to make use of that special code I got with that big box with EVE book in it. I did consider from time to time buying PS3 to try it out but shelling out ~200 EUR for 10 year old hardware did not seem like a good idea.
 
 Now the EVE universe will be complete again and where it belongs - on PC. I'm not opposed to "cross platform" things exactly as long as the content is also accessible from the "core EVE" platform.
 Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!*
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        |  Lateris
 
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 I am so happy to see Project Legion on a PC. I think it was a very smart decision for the long term within the New Eden Community. I will play it on one monitor while playing Eve on the Second monitor. I even started to work with the UT 4 Engine for fun!!!!
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        |  Carniflex
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 Well at the end of a day its probably not worth holding our breath over it though. As far as I understood the "Legion" is probably in pretty early stage of its development so seeing stuff thats actually playable on PC for current EVE players is probably around few years off - assuming they can use fair bit of currently existing DUST assets by just pushing up textures and effects.
 
 The idea of DUST is pretty damn good but the current implementation has been somewhat ... generic. Perhaps partly as a result of hardware limitations. The initial promise was that dust would be released on CCP's internal "Carbon" engine with all this fancy realtime dynamic lighting that was shown at fanfest number of years before it became apparent that it will be instead on PS3 and with UT3 engine. Which felt like somewhat rushed decision of just scraping 2-3 years of development and then just clubbing something togehter in a short time for PS3. When it was announced everyone just assumed that it will be on a PC so there was quite a lot of dissapointment when it became apparent it will be on console and on top of that a PS3 exclusive (at first it was sort of supposed to come also on XBox).
 
 This time they are going with UT4 - which is said to be pretty ok engine and licensing terms are pretty ok as well. Considering WoD got dumped they probably no longer have even a dedicated team for making their "awesomesaouce" Carbon capable of handling first/3rd person stuff with more than one character on scene - same engine was supposed to be used also for walking in stations. It will be interesting to see if CCP decides to use UT4 for that as well should it ever get around to release.
 Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!*
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        |  DaReaper
 Net 7
 The Last Brigade
 
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 45thtiger 0109 wrote:Hoban Gallifrey wrote:Dust is not coming to PC EVE:Legion is coming to PC which is a different game to Dust according to dev blog. Legion Is a code name. Which is still Dust 514 on PC and as a PC player I will be setting up another monitor on my PC to play EvE & Dust at the same time yay. CCP you have done well and I will be keeping my subscription going as long as the content is fresh and exciting for Both EvE & Dust. Great Job CCP   
 
 e Trade marking of Eve: Legion would say otherwise. Its not the codename, its more then likely going to be the actual game name, if it gets green lite.
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        |  DaReaper
 Net 7
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 Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:DaReaper wrote:You have my support for legion, make this happen, but link the damn thing to eve, go all or don;t even other.
 As an aside, how dustbunnies did not see this coming idk. They even had a 6 page forum post of speculation on what legion was. CCP handled it badly sure, but its for the best.
 You know with the current prososal of Legion there will no longer be any OBS right? Why would Legion need any Eve interaction when they could scavenge what they need? Say bubbye to those kill mails where in you could kill 16 Dusters right of the back. Say bubbye to all those juicy LP points that get you those factional goodies fast.   And yes! Most dusters didnt see this coming! Big gotcha from CCP!   But hey it will fun watching them Legionaires rage when they see that incompetency doesnt get solved by changing projects but by changing one's own outlook!  Peace   
 
 that's not what I saw in the tech demo. But as its not even official yet, we don't know what will be in it. Though as I said, they either need to go all (link the two from day one fully) or nothing (leave it as a standalone) however, based solely off some of the ideas from CCP Presents, it and valk will be linked to eve. How, and when, and in what way is the question.
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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 DaReaper wrote:
 that's not what I saw in the tech demo. But as its not even official yet, we don't know what will be in it. Though as I said, they either need to go all (link the two from day one fully) or nothing (leave it as a standalone) however, based solely off some of the ideas from CCP Presents, it and valk will be linked to eve. How, and when, and in what way is the question.
 
 Dudes jokes aside look at the 2009 E3 demo and the Legion Demo. The only difference between the 2 is burning trees.
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        |  mkint
 
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 Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Legion there will no longer be any OBS  devquote or it didn't happen.
 
 also, guys, the CCP presents show at fanfest is always marketing. It's a big sales pitch. Always has been. It's as reliable a source of information as that guy with the greasy mustache you bought your used Honda from. If you ever think about quoting it as a source of information, just remember that. The only part of this last one that I trust as even remotely useful information was the part where the dust dev got up and tried to do some damage control... so 30 seconds worth out of the 2 hour show had any value whatsoever.
 Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun.
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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 mkint wrote:Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Legion there will no longer be any OBS  devquote or it didn't happen. 
 I have Dev Quotes saying Dust is Laser Focused on the PS3 for the next 10 years. And its not happening.
 
 What makes you think Dev Quotes mean anything?
 
 Devs are nothing by EPs and Hilmars lap dogs.
  
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        |  mkint
 
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 Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:mkint wrote:Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Legion there will no longer be any OBS  devquote or it didn't happen. I have Dev Quotes saying Dust is Laser Focused on the PS3 for the next 10 years. And its not happening. What makes you think Dev Quotes mean anything? Devs are nothing by EPs and Hilmars lap dogs.   #ROFLPwned Oh, well if that's how the rumor mongering goes, I hear legion matches will be capped at 100,000 players, and all goons get BFG's.
 
 What has me wondering more than anything is how the resource gathering thing is supposed to work. I understand the concept to be a co-op PVE activity that can be disrupted by PVP. How can that even possibly work in anything but an open sandbox world? FPSes generally run on the idea of a high paced matches with relatively small teams. Even the ones with bigger matches, they are still on a smallish map with instanced fights, not like a big MMO or even sandbox rpg/shooter. For that game mode to not suck, they are going to have to do some pretty huge changes to the FPS paradigm.
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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 mkint wrote:What has me wondering more than anything is how the resource gathering thing is supposed to work. I understand the concept to be a co-op PVE activity that can be disrupted by PVP. How can that even possibly work in anything but an open sandbox world? FPSes generally run on the idea of a high paced matches with relatively small teams. Even the ones with bigger matches, they are still on a smallish map with instanced fights, not like a big MMO or even sandbox rpg/shooter. For that game mode to not suck, they are going to have to do some pretty huge changes to the FPS paradigm.
 
 Its actually pretty simple. Check out how it is implemented in Warframe. Enemies drop various items. Items can be sold or fused to make better items.
 
 Its not that hard
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        |  Ralph King-Griffin
 Var Foundation inc.
 
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 warframe is crap , bad example, are you this entire subforum?
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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 Ralph King-Griffin wrote:warframe is crap , bad example, are you this entire subforum? 
 ROFL. What do you think most people who quit Dust are playing now? If you think Warframe is crap imagine how big of a turdpile Dust is for them to quit it and play Warframe!
 
 #ROFLLogic
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        |  mkint
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.07 19:01:00 -
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 Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:mkint wrote:What has me wondering more than anything is how the resource gathering thing is supposed to work. I understand the concept to be a co-op PVE activity that can be disrupted by PVP. How can that even possibly work in anything but an open sandbox world? FPSes generally run on the idea of a high paced matches with relatively small teams. Even the ones with bigger matches, they are still on a smallish map with instanced fights, not like a big MMO or even sandbox rpg/shooter. For that game mode to not suck, they are going to have to do some pretty huge changes to the FPS paradigm.
 Its actually pretty simple. Check out how it is implemented in Warframe. Enemies drop various items. Items can be sold or fused to make better items. Its not that hard   ! Warframe isn't even conceptually similar to legion. not even close. Warframe has such a small match cap, and small restricted levels. It's not like you have a hostile group pop in and start fighting you over resources. It's just blitz level, get candy. Even if there was a PVP element thrown in, it wouldn't work, you'd still be better off just blitz level get candy.
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        |  Ralph King-Griffin
 Var Foundation inc.
 
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 Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:warframe is crap , bad example, are you this entire subforum? ROFL. What do you think most people who quit Dust are playing now? If you think Warframe is crap imagine how big of a turdpile Dust is for them to quit it and play Warframe! #ROFLLogic   none, given its not on playstation 3.
 
 
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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 mkint wrote: Warframe isn't even conceptually similar to legion. not even close. Warframe has such a small match cap, and small restricted levels. It's not like you have a hostile group pop in and start fighting you over resources. It's just blitz level, get candy. Even if there was a PVP element thrown in, it wouldn't work, you'd still be better off just blitz level get candy. 
 If you look back at your question;- you asked me how a good salvage mechanism would work. I believe I answered that with the Warframe salavage mechanics.
 
 You are right about the Warframe concepts being way different from Legion concepts.
 
 And let me state for the record my hate is not towards Legion it is directed towards the cabbage brains that are in charge of developing it.
 
 With that said;- last night I played Warframe and in the 3 rd game I played I actually ran into a Dev that chatted with me about the game and played with me a couple of matches and then went on his way.
 
 When have you ever heard a Dust Dev do this? Never! Nada! Nope! Ziltch! I didnt have any connectivity issues.
 
 The graphics are actually decent. I dont have to worry about hard freezes. The patch notes are clear. FPS are not only about the game. Its about the community built around it.
 
 While other FPS game makers strive to built the community up, CCP has trashed its FPS community.
 
 And the most important aspect of FPS gaming and that is to have fun. Warframe currently offers all these things and is free.
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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 Ralph King-Griffin wrote:none, given its not on playstation 3.
 
 #ROFLLogic 
 #FF14ONPS3 ##350KGamersDay1 #Eve500K10Yrs #SoonGäó
 
 My PS3 with its 512Mb RAM is way better than my i5 Laptop with 8 GB RAM when it comes to FPS gaming.
 
 My PS4 with its 8 GB RAM is way better than my 4th Gen Intel I7 with 32 GB RAM when it comes to FPS gaming.
 
 Cheerio
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        |  Ralph King-Griffin
 Var Foundation inc.
 
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 Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:none, given its not on playstation 3.
 
 #ROFLLogic #FF14ONPS3 ##350KGamersDay1 #Eve500K10Yrs #SoonGäó My PS3 with its 512Mb RAM is way better than my i5 Laptop with 8 GB RAM when it comes to FPS gaming. My PS4 with its 8 GB RAM is way better than my 4th Gen Intel I7 with 32 GB RAM when it comes to FPS gaming. Cheerio   stop buying bad pc hardware then
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        |  Bagrat Skalski
 Poseidaon
 
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 You are clearly having fun here raging on CCP, don't you?
 When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
 
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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 Ralph King-Griffin wrote:stop buying bad pc hardware then 
 Its called a tax write off. Uncle Sam loves us when it comes to that. Why wont I buy the latest and greatest gaming rig for "official purposes" and write it off as a business expense
  ! 
 If only I could write off my PS3 and PS4. But they last so long.
  
 Next year its gonna be 64 GB of RAM!
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
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 Bagrat Skalski wrote:You are clearly having fun here trolling on CCP and PC master race, don't you?
 
 Fixed and busted
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        |  ISD Ezwal
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 I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
 Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
 
 The Rules:
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 Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
 
 
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        |  ViRtUoZone
 0ne Percent.
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 Darth Kilth wrote:Hurray!
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 One question tough, can I redeem my EVE collectors edition stuff in the PC version?
 
 
 WHY can no one answer the ONLY question in the man's post but be completely able to run off with WILD speculations on which CCP has basically confirmed NOTHING!? Speculate on his question please so I can make my own thoughts on how it will work based on unsourced information and spread those all over the universe thank you!
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        |  Archibald Liberty Killmore
 Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
 
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       | Posted - 2014.05.09 12:45:00 -
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 ViRtUoZone wrote:
 WHY can no one answer the ONLY question in the man's post but be completely able to run off with WILD speculations on which CCP has basically confirmed NOTHING!? Speculate on his question please so I can make my own thoughts on how it will work based on unsourced information and spread those all over the universe thank you!
 
 Odds are no! CCP has already removed BPOs in the past. They dont like BPOs. They are most likely to compensate you with AUR or some other cool gimic they come up with.
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        |  Ziela Mangeiri
 Warp Nomads
 
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 Manssell wrote:mkint wrote:Manssell wrote:[quote=DeeJ1]...It's the same as if CCP announced EVE 2.0 and all you characters and assets would be left to rot in EVE 1.0. ...And are you seriously claiming there are a significant number of people who have a video game console but don't have any kind of computer whatsoever? And that venn diagram has any overlap with those who play an EVE product? There's probably more dial-up players on EVE than dust bunnies who don't own a computer. Actually I do know plenty of people who have a console but no gaming PC. They have really old computers or laptops, macs, or tablets. They get a console so they can game and so can their kids, along with streaming movies ect. Sure we don't know the specs yet of what will run it, but many assume (i think safely) it would need a current up to date PC system. Now don't get me wrong, I understand that here in Eve we all have PCs for games (duh) and there is a large potential market. I'm just pointing out why many in the current dust community are mad, and many of them are saying they don't have a gaming PC as one reason. replying to old post, 'cause i think it's relevant
 
 How about the tens of thousands of players who wanted to play Dust, but couldn't because we didn't own a PS3? I seem to recall some outrage at that, too. I guess it does suck for those who own a ps3 and no computer.. But really, isn't it about time the game was made accessible to us PC-gamers as well? I for one had been feeling left out for a long time.
 
 Hope this also means more meaningful interaction between EVE Online and the Dust platform.
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        |  Dextrome Thorphan
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 Bit late... most people don't even care to check it out anymore after all the bad press it got in the past years.... but hey better late than never I guess.
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        |  Eklipce Adoudel
 StratMin Inc
 
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 I'm so glad CCP is finally bringing this to PC. This could slowly bring people who didnt wanna try EVE online and maybe make them somewhat interested into the game once they try the FPS.
 
 Either way, I can finally play a EVE game with my friends who don't like EVE Online because how much reading it has.
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        |  Lateris
 
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 Why no General forum for Project Legion on the Eve Forums?
 { I support Project Legion on the PC }
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        |  Tanlandir
 
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 Hooray! I look forward to! :)
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        |  coolzero
 Mortis Angelus
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 ive been waiting for this news.....i just cant get used to console.gamepad gaming.
 
 
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        |  Thel'Vadam Vadamee
 Eclipse Collective
 
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 As an EVE player I have been wanting to dive into the DUST worlds for some time now, but hearing that there are other players that are just as excited to hear about a change to make it so that way PC users can play is amazing in itself!!!
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        |  Metamonic
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 Is there a time line? Been looking for this information without much success
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        |  Lateris
 
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 You mean for release? If so there is not. It ha snot been greenlit yet. But here is where the main conversation is occurring for Project Legion on the Dust 514 forums. Project Legion has its own section. Link
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        |  raptureswolf
 Secure Mining
 
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 cant afford that tank or awesome arsenal, visit this site for help http://jobandcash.com/?share=31983
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        |  Xenuria
 The Scope
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 I can only assume that all money spent on the Dust514 MT system will be refunded in full or otherwise compensated in legion.
 If not then there is going to be some lawsuits.
 
 Dust was always supposed to be linked to EvE, yet it never made it that far...
 
 
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 I am so very fortunate that my Bank is one of the few ethical kinds. If I get scammed or ripped off by something like this i can CHARGEBACK and dispute. I fill out an sworn statement and typically companies like Valve, EA, etc will eat the cost because it's not worth it for them to fight it.
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        |  ISD Ezwal
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 I have removed a rule breaking post.
 
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 Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only.
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        |  Flay Nardieu
 Forgotten Union of Knackered Tradesfolk
 Universal Rockstars
 
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 Most should have known that DUST514 was slated to expand to PC and Xbox (if the could have came to a similar agreement that they had with Sony). I was an early adopter, beta tester, and bought several of the BPO packages including both the Elite and Veteran ones. Those packages where quite expensive for digital items and the BPO's are the reason for the purchase (and I wanted to support further development of the game).
 
 That said, some facts need to be restated involving DUST514:
 
 
 
  Removal of the BPOs in those specific and similar packages in any other case (digital content has some rather slipper wording in the agreements) would be considered in most of the world as fraud or at least breach of contract.
 Legion IS NOT Dust514 for the PC, maybe it will be an improvement but it is not the same game.
 DUST514 is slated to END in approximately 2yrs likely when the contract with Sony is due to be renewed.
 No major work is intended for Dust during the remainder of the game's existence only bug fixes.
 
 Many online games come to an end it is natural, DUST is the only one I've ever played where the company running it has a sale on items and in game currency bought with real world money the week that they announce it is being cancelled and replaced with a totally new game on a totally different platform (Fanfest 2014 DUST514 keynote).
 
 I encourage people to go through the news releases, watch the DUST514 fanfest keynotes and read the devblogs and forum posts to verify what I've stated, and those who play Eve itself check the population count on high-sec systems with Dust players in local, most went from a few hundred blueberries to barely hitting 100 at peak times.
 
 Legion may fill the gap, but it still stands that CCP kicked it's player base in the nuts particularly the huge amount of console only players. I for one won't play online FPS games on PC due to both the hardware demands and particularly the ease of cheating.
 So... I am a carebear, Really?-á Ok.... I'll be CRAZY Bear then!
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        |  Jester Cap
 A better day
 
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 Been playing irregularly Dust514 since Closed Beta started.
 
 In my experience it will most likely be another fail release.
 
 Some new fancy graphics and a new platform won't fix what is inherently wrong with the game and gameplay itself.
 
 I was very excited about the prospect of an FPS expanding the EVE universe. Especially across platforms. How exciting. And given what a challenge it is to accomplish, I personally was in it with a lot of patients. But boy oh boy did it go from bad to worse to just plain palm to face.
 
 I really hope they will cut their losses, dry up their bloodied noses and concentrate on EVE. This will have to compete with extremely good FPS games on the PC platform and I see nothing anywhere to suggest it can even come close to the desirability and playability of the other well established FPS out there.
 
 The one saving grace for DUST514 was that it is free to play. Its good for a little bit of kill kill kill time when you got noting better to do and don't feel like to level your 12th MMORPG char. A bit of shoot kill die, rinse and repeat fun.
 
 For gamers who enjoy FPS (and I enjoy FPS since DOOM first came out) for all that this genre stands for DUST514 is just simply a huge fail. I could now rant on in detail about all that is wrong and simply not fixable, but it is just too exhaustive to list it all. And I don't see any of it fixed by moving on to PC as a platform. Making the graphics shiny won't help the gameplay.
 
 Dust514 has failed. Let it die in peace and please focus on EVE.
 
 
 
 
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        |  Ackemi
 Senex Legio
 
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 I don't own a PS3 and didn't plan on getting one. I'm glad Legion is coming!
 
 I like to FPS every now and then- it becomes more meaningful if I'm doing it in the Eve universe. I'm also not averse to spending real money to enhance the experience.
 
 Legion may still suck as an FPS but unlike most other console games I expect CCP will stick with Legion (PC) over the years and make it better. I didn't play the Eve Online beta, but I heard it stunk in the beginning...
 
 I would pay $15 a month for Legion just to ensure it continually got CCP lovin'.
 
 Then I could replace my Planetside2 habit with something that enhances my Eve Online habit!
 
 
 
 
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        |  Commander Shale
 State Section 12
 
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 Honestly I feel like DUST should have been a PC exclusive release from the very beginning. A FPS that is suppose to be the embodiment of a massive, expansive and persistent universe such as EVE could never have been truly achieved on any console, especially one that was already so close to becoming obsolete such as the PS3 was.
 
 But CCP didn't seem like they were too solid on the idea of this game coming to PC just yet, and seemed that they were more waiting the community's reaction... Which if you've looked at the DUST forums, is not good. I only hope it's not too late, and that they also look to their PC players on EVE who weren't willing to buy a console just to play one game.
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        |  Jake Entar
 Christ's Little angels
 Nerfed Alliance Go Away
 
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 Puiu Lucif wrote:Mila Strelok wrote:The main question is, current PS3 Dust514 players will maintain their characters on PC? or we will need to create new characters? i think you won't be able to do so because it's actually a completely new game. if they somehow manage to do so then i'll be really surprised. 
 It's confirmed by CCP that dust skills/isk/assets will be transferred to Legion.
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        |  Joshua Milton Blahyi
 Imperial Academy
 Amarr Empire
 
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 Ackemi wrote:
 Legion may still suck as an FPS but unlike most other console games I expect CCP will stick with Legion (PC) over the years and make it better. I didn't play the Eve Online beta, but I heard it stunk in the beginning...
 
 I would pay $15 a month for Legion just to ensure it continually got CCP lovin'.
 
 Then I could replace my Planetside2 habit with something that enhances my Eve Online habit!
 
 
 
 
 I also like the return of the gaming PC to popularity! Anything that promotes that is going to get my vote.
 
 Legion WILL suck, because the team behind it is the same team behind Dust, which is an awful FPS.
 
 It is funny that you think CCP will stick with Legion. I remember all the BS about Dust and the "ten year plan". They didn't even make it 8 months past release and they were shifting people off the project, while trying to milk what they could out of the players.
 
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        |  Joshua Milton Blahyi
 Imperial Academy
 Amarr Empire
 
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       | Posted - 2014.08.17 22:54:00 -
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 Jake Entar wrote:It's confirmed by CCP that dust skills/isk/assets will be transferred to Legion.
 
 Unless you have a link for that statement, I wouldn't go calling it confirmed.
 
 As long as something is still in the "working out the details" stage, calling it confirmed is a big stretch. Also, keep in mind that just because CCP promises something doesn't mean it will come to be(WiS, WoD, Dust in general).
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        |  Jake Entar
 Christ's Little angels
 Nerfed Alliance Go Away
 
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       | Posted - 2014.08.19 19:52:00 -
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 Joshua Milton Blahyi wrote:Jake Entar wrote:It's confirmed by CCP that dust skills/isk/assets will be transferred to Legion.
 Unless you have a link for that statement, I wouldn't go calling it confirmed.  As long as something is still in the "working out the details" stage, calling it confirmed is a big stretch. Also, keep in mind that just because CCP promises something doesn't mean it will come to be(WiS, WoD, Dust in general). 
 Picture: http://puu.sh/aZpaw/82b1f49939.png
 Thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=160232&find=unread
 
 Checkmate.
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        |  Neutral Haulermeister
 The Corporate Raiders
 Top Men.
 
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       | Posted - 2014.08.19 20:08:00 -
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 Jake Entar wrote:Joshua Milton Blahyi wrote:Jake Entar wrote:It's confirmed by CCP that dust skills/isk/assets will be transferred to Legion.
 Unless you have a link for that statement, I wouldn't go calling it confirmed.  As long as something is still in the "working out the details" stage, calling it confirmed is a big stretch. Also, keep in mind that just because CCP promises something doesn't mean it will come to be(WiS, WoD, Dust in general).  Picture: http://puu.sh/aZpaw/82b1f49939.png  Thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=160232&find=unread  Checkmate. Aplicable aka Whatever we think you should get,
 
 Oh, remeber PvE, PC 2.0 and that stuff they promised happening?
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        |  Jake Entar
 Christ's Little angels
 Nerfed Alliance Go Away
 
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       | Posted - 2014.08.19 20:13:00 -
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 They didn't promise about transferring your character from dust 514 to legion, they should they would.
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