pretty sure dust is dead because it's not on the PC

Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.

This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping".

Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.

This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping".

pretty sure dust is dead because it's not on the PC, that was pretty much it's biggest criticism since it's announcement. it's sensible to bring it to the pc, not brave.

Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.

This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping".

They're not bringing DUST to PC. They're creating an entirely new game from scratch with the same promises made for DUST. If you think they'll deliver on those promises any better than they did for DUST then you're the kind of gullible shill CCP is going for.

Of course. I'll try it too. I just refuse to invest anything in it, so I'll be unscathed when it flops.

The DUST 514 PR is taken care of by Mintchip. This was the girl who just a week before being hired by CCP, would not stop bashing EVE and saying how much CCP was a horrible company, while at the same time trying to get neckbeards to buy her things from her amazon wishlist. This seems wholly in line with hiring someone so inexperienced and outright bad for a PR role.

Bad choices by CCP aside, yes it is a PR nightmare and I hear from some posts that sony is even reimbursing recent "arum" purchases due to this whole issue? If so, that's pretty impressive since Sony takes a really hard line on refunds and usually just says tough luck.

Hmm ive heard that the Devs will try to move the Dust toons onto Legion. Well thats competition destroyed for eve players. if only 100 of the top Dust players will move to Legion then they wil havel a head start of like 50million SP+ (thats if Legion would start today). And we all know that FPS players only play with their lvl of skill. Gonna be interesting to see how a 0SP player (who's mainly a pilot) will hold up against Dust vets.

This will most certainly be problematic cause i still assume that Legion will just be a polished Dust514. And that means the Dust players know how everything work before every 1 else. I say only 2 words: "proto stomping".

Sorry, for a moment there I thought you were talking about how some new players feel when they start in Eve and see all the vets with X skill points and knowledge of how the game works.

Well on dust you either have proto equipment or you get stomped. There is no other option to it. Noobs that show up in militia gear are getting instantly murdered by vets. it just doesnt matter how good you are when the guy you are shoting has like double or even tripple the HP then you got, he just turns around, shots you a couple of times and thats about it. Oh and if you see a hostile tank dont even bother cause your Anti Vehicle weapons dont even put a dent into that thing if you dont have them maxed out.

Dust has big balancing issues where only the vets truly rule over the game. Another thing is quite a decent amount of the dust players actually do use keyboard+mouse cause its supported on the PS3. So the shift from the PS3-PC wouldnt be to big of a problem.

As I said in another topic:

I hope the Dust backlash doesnt endanger their plans with Legion as they made the right decision there and there is alot of potential.

They shot themselves in the foot with the way they anounced it however and I have no idea how anyone in their right mind thought this would end well.

Belated good move by CCP. Ever since DUST was announced as a PS3 exclusive we've been telling them it's a dreadful mistake and PC is the natural home of a game set in the EVE universe. Perhaps finally CCP will get the message that we're not dumb, we know what we want and we know what we'd pay for. You cannot just produce any old crap and expect people to happily chow down, you have to listen to your customers and fulfill their needs.

If it's going to be stupid micro transactions, I'll still play. There was this game (wont mention name) I was in early beta then open beta. I carried a sub as it wasn't f2p. Eventually it went f2p, I ran with an f2p account and spent money. I went from spending $15/m to about $3/mo. Played another year, the community changed, it sucked, I stopped playing. I pref a nice tight community subscription game, but I'll still play if it's f2p... and probably spend very little.

They would be better off doing something like Quake Live does, and no real pay to win. Limited free and premium accounts on a sub. Yes, QL operates off of a subscription model.